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org upgrade??? - 6/23/2009 9:08:38 PM

shadowX

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first off let me say that i am so glad to have this game back (east front). i played it back in the late 90's\00's when it came out and until my computer blew up i had gotten to july 44. it took about 3 years in rl to get to that point but it was a blast the whole way. ive started another camp with ef through talonsoft and have just made b. gen. after only 16 senerios. however i am still commanding a bat only. why or when will i get an org upgrade. when i played it in the 90's i made routine org upgrades; div with prom to lt.col. corp with b. gen. however this time around im a general with only a bat still.

i have over 40k xp. im abit confused and would like to know if im doing something wrong or what? did i miss something i needed to click or turn on?? also i may be wrong, its being a long time since i played this but is there a reason i have no art?? i mean i get 1 maybe 2 82mm mortors and a bat or 280mm rockets but the rockets are pretty much useless since they have such a short range. ive completed most of my sen without the benefit of any art. why do i not have 105\150's? oh and one more question. i notice that the oob is different for mcs (whatever mcs stands for, poss matrix camp series??) why is the oob so different from the talonsoft oob? is that ef 2? i never played ef 2 so i dont know. thanks, and again thanks for bringing back this game.

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/23/2009 9:10:18 PM

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/24/2009 12:12:57 AM

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what version of JTCS are you using? V. 1.04 is currently out....you may be using 1.00, or 1.01. The old Talonsoft OOB's were brought back by request in V. 1.04, as well as some additional changes. It seems that the old Talonsoft OOB's had a fatal flaw in them that caused DCG's to crash for most people in late 42. Thats why they were scrapped. As far as I know, they havent been fixed, so use them at your own peril. The reason you may not be getting org upgrades is from the version you are currently using, but I am not certain on this. I started with V. 1.02 and got them, so i am thinking you havent updated.

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/24/2009 4:40:25 AM

shadowX

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thanks. as far as i know im up to date. i clicked the check for updates on the main screen and it says im up to date however i dont see what version im using.

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/24/2009 5:42:01 AM

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You're probably better off playing with the MCS orgs.

Jason built these up from scratch to get rid of the infamous understrength upgrade bug that plagued the DCGs for years....

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/24/2009 12:48:25 PM

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40K experience points should have got you to command a Division if you selected a standard formation.

The likely cause is the OOB structure of the formation you selected has a disconnect that is telling the DCG that Battalion is the highest command available. You may not see an offer of promotion until you get to 55000, which is Corps level IIRC.

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/26/2009 1:58:14 AM

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Its been a long time since I played the old game and I recently bought the new set. How do I know which version of a LCG I am playing on the east front?

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/26/2009 12:38:04 PM

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Except for some minor changes in some WF DCG's I dont think any of the campaign games were tinkered with at all. The readme for the game and each patch will explain what has changed.

Either way I think you are safe.

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/26/2009 3:53:24 PM

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If I understand this correctly, I don't think the OOB you pick in a LCG makes any difference for purposes of upgrades or potential crashes.

However, the OOB you pick in a DCG does makes a difference both for upgrades and potential crashes. The original Talonsoft OOB are bugged with both problems. The Matrix OOB cure both problems. My understanding is that when selecting your OOB, the Matrix OOB are flagged in their file name, but I'm not sure how.

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RE: org upgrade??? - 6/26/2009 6:52:08 PM

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from my understanding, LCG OOB's are completely seperate from DCG OOB's....so there should be no worry that an LCG will crash....at least from OOB error.

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