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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 2:06:03 PM

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I watched it with my wife and 14 year old daughter. All-in-all we liked it. Taken at face value, it is a nice, light weight, si fi show. Given how hard it is to find a show that appeals to all 3 of us, I hope it does well.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 2:29:51 PM

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Exactly.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 2:39:39 PM

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What do you think, will today's stage bring any change in classement (except the actual leader who will loose the jersey for sure)?

Is there any rider who's good enough to benefit from the last descent?

There's some good riders (Astarloa, Casar, Cancelarra and Hincapie) in the break, so if they can hold off the peleton on the Col D'Agnes then I expect some fireworks on the descent. Cancellara and Hincapie in particular are great descenders, but the road levels out too far before the finish for that to matter, IMO.

I also think that with Contador and Armstrong only a few seconds out of the lead, Astana will not let anyone dangerous get too much time.

Ooops! I see that Cancellara just got dropped. He is a good descender, so he might just catch back up on the other side of the mountain.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 2:45:09 PM

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"Brad: thanks for the thought . I can learn patience from over topics too
I will wait next year so i can see you in Le Tour de France, in place of Lance Armstrong "

Hah! If many think that he's too old... I was a generation earlier. One of my old teammates (Rick Crawford) was his coach when he was a triathlete back in the '80's.

Besides, I was too slow...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 2:48:12 PM

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Hi all,

Good day!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 2:54:17 PM

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"Brad: thanks for the thought . I can learn patience from over topics too
I will wait next year so i can see you in Le Tour de France, in place of Lance Armstrong "

Hah! If many think that he's too old... I was a generation earlier. One of my old teammates (Rick Crawford) was his coach when he was a triathlete back in the '80's.

Besides, I was too slow...

Still if you did Mt. Evans I'm impressed. I've only done Green Mtn which isn't even 14k. Since I live here I have no excuse, perhaps next summer I can try Mt. Evans but I think I'll need a better bike and a body transplant

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 2:54:38 PM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 3:19:43 PM

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quote:

"Brad: thanks for the thought . I can learn patience from over topics too
I will wait next year so i can see you in Le Tour de France, in place of Lance Armstrong "

Hah! If many think that he's too old... I was a generation earlier. One of my old teammates (Rick Crawford) was his coach when he was a triathlete back in the '80's.

Besides, I was too slow...

Still if you did Mt. Evans I'm impressed. I've only done Green Mtn which isn't even 14k. Since I live here I have no excuse, perhaps next summer I can try Mt. Evans but I think I'll need a better bike and a body transplant

Hey... and I climbed it all the way from sea level. Okay, so maybe it took us a month to reach the summit from the Washington coast, but every foot of that elevation was gained by my legs...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 3:27:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

quote:

ORIGINAL: thegreatwent

quote:

"Brad: thanks for the thought . I can learn patience from over topics too
I will wait next year so i can see you in Le Tour de France, in place of Lance Armstrong "

Hah! If many think that he's too old... I was a generation earlier. One of my old teammates (Rick Crawford) was his coach when he was a triathlete back in the '80's.

Besides, I was too slow...

Still if you did Mt. Evans I'm impressed. I've only done Green Mtn which isn't even 14k. Since I live here I have no excuse, perhaps next summer I can try Mt. Evans but I think I'll need a better bike and a body transplant

Hey... and I climbed it all the way from sea level. Okay, so maybe it took us a month to reach the summit from the Washington coast, but every foot of that elevation was gained by my legs...

That's impressive! It's attractive to me to do that once, too. But at first, I have to get ready for my first Ironman...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 3:52:09 PM

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Hi all,

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 3:52:25 PM

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http://www.hs.fi/thickbox/video/1135247558199?KeepThis=true

cool

A man jumped on the back of a swimming elk and rode the wild animal for about 10 seconds

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 3:53:43 PM

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Hi all,

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

Leo "Apollo11"

nothing unexpected.

Go into a shop and look at the other computer games. New games between 20 and 40 Euro - only a few go up to 50, but most just 40 here.
So a game with the double price seem too costly on the first look...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 4:10:45 PM

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Hi all,

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

Leo "Apollo11"

I agree. Geez, how do people think Matrix stays in business ? Lay off beer for a bit, or skip a couple of movies, or whatever. I have to assume that anyone complaining about the price is just immature, or ignorant of the economic realities facing a company selling
PC games of this type.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 4:21:16 PM

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Anyone complaining about the price has never played WitP to learn what an amazing value measured in $/hour it really is.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 4:25:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

quote:

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

quote:

ORIGINAL: thegreatwent

quote:

"Brad: thanks for the thought . I can learn patience from over topics too
I will wait next year so i can see you in Le Tour de France, in place of Lance Armstrong "

Hah! If many think that he's too old... I was a generation earlier. One of my old teammates (Rick Crawford) was his coach when he was a triathlete back in the '80's.

Besides, I was too slow...

Still if you did Mt. Evans I'm impressed. I've only done Green Mtn which isn't even 14k. Since I live here I have no excuse, perhaps next summer I can try Mt. Evans but I think I'll need a better bike and a body transplant

Hey... and I climbed it all the way from sea level. Okay, so maybe it took us a month to reach the summit from the Washington coast, but every foot of that elevation was gained by my legs...

That's impressive! It's attractive to me to do that once, too. But at first, I have to get ready for my first Ironman...

Historiker, when are you doing your Ironman? I've completed 2 Half Ironman tri's, but have not yet attempted a full Ironman. One day, when I have a LOT more time to train.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 4:27:28 PM

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Historiker, when are you doing your Ironman? I've completed 2 Half Ironman tri's, but have not yet attempted a full Ironman. One day, when I have a LOT more time to train.

2015

I've set a realistic timetable. While swimming and cycling aren't that frightening (I still need to train for both) - doing a marathon after both... well... ��hm...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 4:28:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

Leo "Apollo11"

nothing unexpected.

Go into a shop and look at the other computer games. New games between 20 and 40 Euro - only a few go up to 50, but most just 40 here.
So a game with the double price seem too costly on the first look...

And maybe there's a good reason you can't walk into a shop and see a Matrix game there, hmmmm?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 4:31:37 PM

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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

I've set a realistic timetable. While swimming and cycling aren't that frightening (I still need to train for both) - doing a marathon after both... well... ��hm...

Ironman... uff... no thank you... that's torture...

Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 4:37:13 PM

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Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: Terminus

quote:

ORIGINAL: Historiker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

nothing unexpected.

Go into a shop and look at the other computer games. New games between 20 and 40 Euro - only a few go up to 50, but most just 40 here.
So a game with the double price seem too costly on the first look...

And maybe there's a good reason you can't walk into a shop and see a Matrix game there, hmmmm?

IIRC I once read that shops get around 30% of asked price for their profit... the wargame market is so small that it would be loss to Matrix to do sells that way (just few titles went to shops I think)...

Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 5:08:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

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ORIGINAL: Historiker

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ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Hi all,

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

Leo "Apollo11"

nothing unexpected.

Go into a shop and look at the other computer games. New games between 20 and 40 Euro - only a few go up to 50, but most just 40 here.
So a game with the double price seem too costly on the first look...

And maybe there's a good reason you can't walk into a shop and see a Matrix game there, hmmmm?

Did my posting show any sign that I doubted this? Did I ever complain about the price?

It's obvious that the market is small and that they still want to earn some money.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 5:20:06 PM

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Hi all,

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

Leo "Apollo11"

Don't understand it myself....Outside of people's impulsive need to complain, because they can. (thx to that wonderful tool called the "internet")

pre internet, post internet...i've never complained about the price of any game........even an O/S (though i might have grumbled about the latter.....

)

Arguments about financial situations certainly don't impress me. i've been buying wargames since i was a young teenager and i've gone through numerous financial phases in my life...some good.....alot more not so good. I saved up for weeks doing odd part time jobs to buy Gary Grigsby's 8bit, "War in Russia" which at the time was a whopping $80.00 (compared to 49.99 for most other SSI titles) No whinning....no letter campaign to SSI....i saw the price, i made the decision to meet it, i worked to get it. End of Story as El Cid liked to say often.

To me, its simple, you either have the dough for the product or you don't.....either you find a way to invest in it or you don't. You either decide the product is worth your time, or you don't and move on. No whinning about my house payment etc etc.

reading threads like that just make me want to get my "No Whiners" t-shirt out of moth balls. Just do it...or don't and quit bitching. The way some of the complainers go you'd think they were agonizing over investing in the stock market.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:04:02 PM

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Hi all,

Several people complaining about the price of the WitP-AE... I simply don't understand that... I remeber people complaining when the WitP was due out... and same with UV...

Leo "Apollo11"

Don't understand it myself....Outside of people's impulsive need to complain, because they can. (thx to that wonderful tool called the "internet")

pre internet, post internet...i've never complained about the price of any game........even an O/S (though i might have grumbled about the latter.....)

Yeah, price is driven by the market. Guarantee nobody's getting rich off of this.

As to the impulsive need to complain, it's the age old story; some people complain about everything else, to direct everyone's attention away from the fact that they don't have a dick.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:12:45 PM

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As to the impulsive need to complain, it's the age old story; some people complain about everything else, to direct everyone's attention away from the fact that they don't have a dick.

You think women are playing witp and are intending to buy AE?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:19:42 PM

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No. Believe me.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:24:17 PM

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hope dies last...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:29:57 PM

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Oh, you dog. You got rid of the best part!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:34:00 PM

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hmm?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:39:10 PM

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Tithe...good day all!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:47:06 PM

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goof evening, Steve

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2009 6:52:05 PM

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What's "goofy" about it?

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