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3.10 Feature: H3RE Available to public - 7/16/2009 2:14:12 AM   
rsharp@advancedgamin

 

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The Harpoon 3 Remier Editor is now publicly available. The editor is not backwards compatible for versions previous to 3.10.

http://computerharpoon.com/public/H3RE_3_10_20090717.zip

-edit to link the new build.

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/16/2009 4:03:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I get the following message. I use Microsoft Access 2000. Is there any way to get a version that works for older Access users?

Is there a feature or something in Access 2007(?) that simply is not available in previous versions of Access thereby necessitating the use of 2007?




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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/16/2009 4:20:02 AM   
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Herman IIRC I think I saw some good deals on the suite last week in best buy. Now might be the time to invest in something other than somebody else's time.

Tnx!



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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/16/2009 11:13:33 PM   
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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/16/2009 11:19:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might try opening that database with the In-Game Editor, first.  Then, select the Save Annexes command under the Edit menu.  This will save the annexes in 3.10 format.  After that, you might try to import again.

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/16/2009 11:44:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tried to save annexes with the In-editor and I am still getting the same comple error.

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/16/2009 11:53:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is this problem only with a particular database? 

Does it happen with other databases like ANWDB, ODb, PlayersDB, etc, too?

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/16/2009 11:56:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Same error with all databases. (HUD3, ANW, ODB, PDB).

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 12:03:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I put the wrong version of the RE up and it has a compile error. It's a bug. I'll put the fixed version up shortly after I fix some network issues.

The H3RE currently uses the MS Access 2003 format. I believe you can download a run-time (free) version but I'm not sure what limitations exist. Another option would be to have someone with MS Access 2003 'downgrade' it for you but then that makes the whole editing process messy. I don't intend to support more than one version of the RE at a time.

Thanks,

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 11:38:49 AM   
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Same error with all databases. (HUD3, ANW, ODB, PDB).

I'm using RunTime 2003 for Access. I got a similar error when trying to import. I don't know if it is the same as the one you encountered, but I suspect that it is because it occurred during importation.

If you are impatient and cannot wait for the corrected release of the H3RE, you can try my work-around. The Batch Import for the complete database does not work. However, you can import each of the 17 annexes individually and it works that way (at least for me).

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 5:36:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		The fixed RE is up. Same link.

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 7:41:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rsharp@advancedgamin

The fixed RE is up. Same link.


Here's my testing results formatted in MS Excel.

ANW & ODB seem OK. HUD3 didn't complete. PDb didn't complete, either.

Hope it helps.

Best Regards,
Kazunori Iriya

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 7:45:44 PM   
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PDb didn't complete, either.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by, "Didn't complete"?

Were you unable to import all the different *.DAT files?
How many were you able to import before it crashed?

Did you open the PlayersDB with the Game Editor and save the Annexes first under the Edit command so that they would be in 3.10 format before you tried to import into the ReimerEditor?

I managed to import the PlayersDB properly with RunTime 2003.

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 7:58:36 PM   
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quote:

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PDb didn't complete, either.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by, "Didn't complete"?

Were you unable to import all the different *.DAT files?
How many were you able to import before it crashed?

Did you open the PlayersDB with the Game Editor and save the Annexes first under the Edit command so that they would be in 3.10 format before you tried to import into the ReimerEditor?

I managed to import the PlayersDB properly with RunTime 2003.


"Didn't complete" means the instruction step no.6 of test object no.5 attached in Excel book didn't complete.

My test instruction doesn't seem to take care of the format backward compatibility you mentioned, so I want to update the instruction and give it another try.

Thank you for your comment way forward.

Best Regards,
Kazunori Iriya

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 8:00:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, got your DL and saw the error report. You received this message when you tried to import the PlayersDB. This definitely means that you failed to use the Game Editor.exe to open and then re-save the annexes before you tried to import with the Reimer Editor.

I cannot explain the rest of your error messages, but this is one I also received when I tried to import the PlayersDB without first saving the annexes with the Game Editor.




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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 8:06:30 PM   
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Okay, got your DL and saw the error report. You received this message when you tried to import the PlayersDB. This definitely means that you failed to use the Game Editor.exe to open and then re-save the annexes before you tried to import with the Reimer Editor.

I cannot explain the rest of your error messages, but this is one I also received when I tried to import the PlayersDB without first saving the annexes with the Game Editor.





Thank you for your help me to clarify what happened to me in importing PDb. OK, will try accordingly.

Best Regards,
Kazunori Iriya

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 11:33:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, import works but export is giving me a 'Comple error' refering to WriteDamageModel. I also tested the HCF import and export. The export worked without errors; however, the importing of the same file gives a Run-time error '3061': Too few parameters. Expected 8. Debug takes me to CurrentDb.Execute "qImport_DupePropulsionFind".

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 11:39:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I concur. I didn't want to say anything in case it was because I was running RunTime 2003, but I am having the same problems with the Batch Export command for the entire database.

I am able to export one DAT table / annex at a time (with the exception of the Warhead table, which results in a crash).

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 11:49:47 PM   
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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 11:55:34 PM   
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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/17/2009 11:57:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you able to successfully export the Warhead table individually?

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/18/2009 12:08:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		No exporting the warhead annex does not export. Complie error Sub or function not defined. Debug take me to WriteInterger 0.

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/18/2009 12:10:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are you able to export any of the other tables individually?

p.s. You many not want to try default directory option.  I found it may cause some grief that went away when I did the export command individually

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/18/2009 1:01:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I never use the default directory option. I confirm that only Warhead annex errors out when export each individual annex.

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some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/18/2009 2:16:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		To summarize, I think that:

1) Batch Import was broken (now fixed)
2) Batch Export is broken
3) Warhead table export causes crash

Seems pretty obvious that this editor wasn't even tested once before release if three novice users can find so many bugs on their first runs.


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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/18/2009 3:46:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Uploading ... yet another fixed build. This time I downloaded the file and tested (export & import) it with ANWDB, HUD3, and PDB databases in 3.9.4 format.

All went through without error.

http://computerharpoon.com/public/H3RE_3_10_20090717.zip

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/18/2009 3:49:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good news that the runtime worked out and I'm curious of any issues that might crop up.

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RE: some questions about Beta 3.10 - 7/18/2009 4:17:45 AM   
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