Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: RAM
...but this is overkill.

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ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

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ORIGINAL: RAM
...but this is overkill.

I agree. I don't think 4 minefields a year per vessel would be too many (about quadruple the production we have currently). That would mean a vessel could place a minefield every three months on average. That does not seem too bad to me.

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ORIGINAL: Dili

It seems AE choosed the wrong way. If the values are true it is not even trying to balance it is silly bluntiness. If this was the ideology behind the game doesn't bodes well for other areas. If not unlimited like YH says it should be put at real levels. If the hit rate in hex is too much change the hit rate.

For example Germany employed 223000 mines in the Second World War against 263376 British, 54457(12000 from German stocks) Italian and 40000 Russian mines.

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And how many Japanese?

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Finally, in March 1945, Operation Starvation began in earnest, using 160 of LeMay's B-29 Superfortress bombers to attack Japan's inner zone. Almost half of the mines were the US-built Mark 25 model, carrying 1250 lbs of explosives and weighing about 2,000 lbs. Other mines used included the smaller 1,000 lb Mark 26.[21] 15 B-29s were lost while 293 enemy merchant ships were sunk or damaged.[22] 12,000 aerial mines were laid, a significant barrier to Japan's access to outside resources. Prince Fumimaro Konoe said after the war that the aerial mining by B-29s had been "equally as effective as the B-29 attacks on Japanese industry at the closing stages of the war when all food supplies and critical material were prevented from reaching the Japanese home islands."[23] The United States Strategic Bombing Survey (Pacific War) concluded that it would have been more efficient to combine the United States's effective anti-shipping submarine effort with land- and carrier-based air power to strike harder against merchant shipping and begin a more extensive aerial mining campaign earlier in the war. Survey analysts projected that this would have starved Japan, forcing an earlier end to the war.[24] After the war, Dr. Johnson looked at the Japan inner zone shipping results, comparing the total economic cost of submarine-delivered mines versus air-dropped mines and found that, though 1 in 12 submarine mines connected with the enemy as opposed to 1 in 21 for aircraft mines, the aerial mining operation was about ten times less expensive per enemy ton sunk.[25]

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

1 in 12 sub mines scored a hit?  thats far higher than I would have thought.

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ORIGINAL: JWE

Way over 70% of all the mines laid in the Pacific were laid in areas where game engine does not allow mines to be laid.

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ORIGINAL: JWE

Way over 70% of all the mines laid in the Pacific were laid in areas where game engine does not allow mines to be laid.

The game attempts to be as historical as possible, in those areas IN WHICH IT CAN.

In those areas in which it cannot, due to engine limitations, it must rely on a more simplistic approach. It is all well and good to hop on a high historical horse, but if the game cannot replicate every single historical factor, especially the most significant ones, then all of the historicity arguments become fun, informative, humorous, but in the main, irrelevant.

Please also not that, in accord with engine driven mine warfare, you get over 18,000 'free' mines, that are auto-generated at turn start, that can be maintained by intelligently deployed ACMs.

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

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ORIGINAL: JWE

Way over 70% of all the mines laid in the Pacific were laid in areas where game engine does not allow mines to be laid.

The game attempts to be as historical as possible, in those areas IN WHICH IT CAN.

In those areas in which it cannot, due to engine limitations, it must rely on a more simplistic approach. It is all well and good to hop on a high historical horse, but if the game cannot replicate every single historical factor, especially the most significant ones, then all of the historicity arguments become fun, informative, humorous, but in the main, irrelevant.

Please also not that, in accord with engine driven mine warfare, you get over 18,000 'free' mines, that are auto-generated at turn start, that can be maintained by intelligently deployed ACMs.

That is a good point. There is no doubt that something needed to be done re. "Mines in the Pacific". How many times have you seen 10,000 mines protecting a 1/2 mile wide coral atoll sitting on top of a seamount where the water drops off to 5,000 ft 200 yds offhsore?

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ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

I found some production figures once of Mk 6 mines, and in a 6 month period (in WW-I) they produced an average of 1500 mines a day.