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Here's the explanation from the manual on aircraft production (pg. 232):
For aircraft to be built, there must be Heavy Industry in the pool equal to 18 times the number of engines required to build each plane; when a plane is built, the appropriate number of Heavy Industry is consumed. For example, to produce a 2 engine plane, 36 Heavy Industry will be consumed, while a single engine plane consumes 18 Heavy Industry.
Here's the explanation from the manual on aircraft production (pg. 232):
For aircraft to be built, there must be Heavy Industry in the pool equal to 18 times the number of engines required to build each plane; when a plane is built, the appropriate number of Heavy Industry is consumed. For example, to produce a 2 engine plane, 36 Heavy Industry will be consumed, while a single engine plane consumes 18 Heavy Industry.
Mike I still can't tell what is the total cost in HI for 2 engine aircraft?
Two engine aircraft is it A or B?
A. (36 Hi engine (2 * 18) + 18 Hi Airframe) = 54 Hi total.
or
B. (36 Hi engine (2 * 18) + 36 Hi Airframe) = 72 Hi total.
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Here's the explanation from the manual on aircraft production (pg. 232):
For aircraft to be built, there must be Heavy Industry in the pool equal to 18 times the number of engines required to build each plane; when a plane is built, the appropriate number of Heavy Industry is consumed. For example, to produce a 2 engine plane, 36 Heavy Industry will be consumed, while a single engine plane consumes 18 Heavy Industry.
Mike I still can't tell what is the total cost in HI for 2 engine aircraft?
Two engine aircraft is it A or B?
A. (36 Hi engine (2 * 18) + 18 Hi Airframe) = 54 Hi total.
or
B. (36 Hi engine (2 * 18) + 36 Hi Airframe) = 72 Hi total.
Xargun, it's B. It costs 36 HI for the airframe and 36 HI (2*18) for the two engines for a total of 72 HI to produce a 2E plane.
Here's the explanation from the manual on aircraft production (pg. 232):
For aircraft to be built, there must be Heavy Industry in the pool equal to 18 times the number of engines required to build each plane; when a plane is built, the appropriate number of Heavy Industry is consumed. For example, to produce a 2 engine plane, 36 Heavy Industry will be consumed, while a single engine plane consumes 18 Heavy Industry.
Mike I still can't tell what is the total cost in HI for 2 engine aircraft?
Two engine aircraft is it A or B?
A. (36 Hi engine (2 * 18) + 18 Hi Airframe) = 54 Hi total.
or
B. (36 Hi engine (2 * 18) + 36 Hi Airframe) = 72 Hi total.
Xargun, it's B. It costs 36 HI for the airframe and 36 HI (2*18) for the two engines for a total of 72 HI to produce a 2E plane.
So if your aircraft production is 380 airframes, there is no way to figure out the cost in Hi because, you can't tell how many are single engine, two engine or four engine!
What I'm trying to do is the figure out the cost of production (ship yards, aircraft, engines, armaments, etc.).
Is there anyway to tell if production exceeds the total amount of Hi for the month?
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Hmmm. Do the Japanese store the airframes, or do they just not produce the Tony until the engines are available?
(How many P-51A got converted from Allison engines to Merlins? Just asking... )
I don't believe the airframe will be built without engines. So no engines available, then no aircraft will be built. Whole Aircraft and Engines can be stored, but not just airframes.
The player now has manualy count the number of factories that are producing a specific engine type, to know how many engines of each type are being build.
In the manual there is a nice table that lists all of the bases along with critical the information about island size and terrain type. This is important for planning because in-game you can only see this information for bases you already own, not for enemy bases.
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Request: Bring back the engine totals
The player now has manualy count the number of factories that are producing a specific engine type, to know how many engines of each type are being build.
Bring this back from WITP.
This info is on the aircraft/Engine Production pool screen.
A handy tip is to sort on the engine column, you can see the engines and the planes using that engine next to each other.
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Sorry if this has already been brought up, but just got my AE edition and have perusing the map and bases.
As I mentioned in earlier forums on WitP, there is far too much fuel available in many bases at the start of the game (and there is not enough in PH). I still have an old .doc file I did for WitP with the proposed corrected amounts. The PH amount, for example, is based on the testimony in the Congressional hearings on Pearl Harbor (available on-line). The rest is available from the Pacific Fleet combat command summaries. Nimitz often mentioned that his biggest worry was fuel, and often complained of the lack of fuel in major ports (including the Australian ones; Sydney, e.g., is indicated as having only 5000 tons of bunker fuel a couple months into the war).
Also, as defined in the past, many islands with a port level of 1 should be a port level of 0 at the start (e.g. many French islands, the US Channel Islands, etc.), unless the game assumes a simple, small pier to be a port of level 1. Most islands did not have anything. Offloading was simply done over the side or 'beached'.
I'll post the details soon.
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I don't know if this has ben mentioned yet, but shouldn't Howland Island have a level one airstrip? There was the airstrip that Amelia Earhart planned to use, was it so overgrown already by war start as to be a level zero?
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I don't know if this has ben mentioned yet, but shouldn't Howland Island have a level one airstrip? There was the airstrip that Amelia Earhart planned to use, was it so overgrown already by war start as to be a level zero?
The best sources on the development (both pre-war and during the war) is the official Naval Administration history called "Building the Navy's Bases in World War II" (2 volumes) and Gordon Rottman's "World War II Pacific Island Guide".
The player now has manualy count the number of factories that are producing a specific engine type, to know how many engines of each type are being build.
Bring this back from WITP.
This info is on the aircraft/Engine Production pool screen.
A handy tip is to sort on the engine column, you can see the engines and the planes using that engine next to each other.
No it's not the same thing, you don't see the monthly totals! Bring back the table that shows the totals of engines produced and engines needed.
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I don't know if this has ben mentioned yet, but shouldn't Howland Island have a level one airstrip? There was the airstrip that Amelia Earhart planned to use, was it so overgrown already by war start as to be a level zero?
The best sources on the development (both pre-war and during the war) is the official Naval Administration history called "Building the Navy's Bases in World War II" (2 volumes) and Gordon Rottman's "World War II Pacific Island Guide".
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I don't know if this has ben mentioned yet, but shouldn't Howland Island have a level one airstrip? There was the airstrip that Amelia Earhart planned to use, was it so overgrown already by war start as to be a level zero?
The best sources on the development (both pre-war and during the war) is the official Naval Administration history called "Building the Navy's Bases in World War II" (2 volumes) and Gordon Rottman's "World War II Pacific Island Guide".
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Since I don't have a copy of that book, and the link provided did not mention Howland Island in the pages available for viewing, I still haven't seen anything that tells me anything either way about this question.
You say that Howland Island was occupied on 11 August 1943 and that noone was there before that. Okay, fine... did Earhart intend to just land on a deserted beach and hope that she wouldn't crash? This doesn't make much sense for a otherwise fairly carefully planned "round the world" flight. Was it all just a well publicized suicide? If there was no airstrip there why was it chosen to be her refueling point?
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Don't know much about Earhart.
If you want to find the references in the limited preview to Howland Island, just type "Howland" in the search box when you're on the page. This book does not talk about Earhart and I don't have my complete copy handy.
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