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Shattered Vow - 9/11/2009 4:34:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have broken my vow of cellibacy and have agreed to take on Miller in Scenario Two (enhanced Jap OOB). We will play two-day turns without any House Rules - at start, anyway.

Miller will take Japs and I'll take the Allies. This will be a re-match of our "Rebels vs. Redcoats" WitP game that reached August 1944. Miller and I also squared off in several UV matches. So we go way back. He's a reliable opponent particularly adept at tactical defense.

Neither of us has paid much attention to the AE forums, so we'll both be learning on the fly.

Miller will take the weekend to set up turn one, so we expect the war to begin Monday. That means my vow of celibacy will have lasted 156 of the 180 days promised. Close enough!

My priority over the first days of the war will be: (1) Make sure the American carriers aren't risked unnecessarily; and (2) Pay attention to logistics.

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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/11/2009 6:36:25 PM   
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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/12/2009 7:11:54 AM   
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Change your priorities though, 2) is more important than 1) !!!


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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/12/2009 7:41:05 PM   
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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/13/2009 9:28:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		My vow of celibacy officially ends at 4:26 a.m., September 13, 2009 - I think that's 155 days since it began, way back in early April.

Woke up early and couldn't go back to sleep, checked my inbox, and - presto - there's the first turn from Miller. So I'm about to open the file and begin entering my first moves.

To reiterate, Miller and I are playing two day turns. I expect to work on my turn off and on most of the day. Mainly, I'll be trying to familiarize myself with the map, force disposition, logistics information, and try to get a feel for what I'll be doing during the first six months of war as Miller runs amock.

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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/13/2009 11:43:57 AM   
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Since we're playing two-day turns without House Rules, Miller said that I was free to issue whatever orders I wished to. Doing so took me about two hours:

1. I left the ships in Pearl Harbor and set all fighters to CAP at 50% to 80%.
2. The two CV TFs are to rendezvous and steam south to a point just east of Tarawa.
3. I tried to set most cities/bases to increase fortifications.
4. Didn't do anything on the West Coast. Left Saratoga at San Diego. Subs head to Pearl Harbor.
5. Left as is the reinforcement (artillery) convoy heading to Suva.
6. NZ and OZ combat ships heading to Port Moresby and Townsville where they'll refuel.
7. Most DEI combat ships headings to Soerabaja.
8. Some DEI tankers and transports are fleeing the war zone, most heading for Ceylon, but some for Perth or Darwin.
9. Philippines - combat ships heading south to Soerabaja or, in the case of Boise and Houston, to Darwin. The transports, tankers, minesweepers and other ships are dispersing, fleeing for points ranging from the Aleutians to Midway to Rabaul to Australia to India. Short-legged subs to lay mines at places like Aparri and Saigon. All long-range subs ordered to patrol in arc from South China Sea to Philippine Sea.
10. Hong Kong - combat ships fleeing south.
11. Singapore - alot of ships fleeing up the Malacca Straits. Combat ships including Force Z heading toward Soerabaja.
12. India - didn't do anything here except set bases to build forts.
13. China - don't know what to do here yet. Garrisons look pretty weak at the moment.

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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/13/2009 5:16:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

December 7, 1941

Since we're playing two-day turns without House Rules, Miller said that I was free to issue whatever orders I wished to. Doing so took me about two hours:

1. I left the ships in Pearl Harbor and set all fighters to CAP at 50% to 80%.
2. The two CV TFs are to rendezvous and steam south to a point just east of Tarawa.
3. I tried to set most cities/bases to increase fortifications.
4. Didn't do anything on the West Coast. Left Saratoga at San Diego. Subs head to Pearl Harbor.
5. Left as is the reinforcement (artillery) convoy heading to Suva.
6. NZ and OZ combat ships heading to Port Moresby and Townsville where they'll refuel.
7. Most DEI combat ships headings to Soerabaja.
8. Some DEI tankers and transports are fleeing the war zone, most heading for Ceylon, but some for Perth or Darwin.
9. Philippines - combat ships heading south to Soerabaja or, in the case of Boise and Houston, to Darwin. The transports, tankers, minesweepers and other ships are dispersing, fleeing for points ranging from the Aleutians to Midway to Rabaul to Australia to India. Short-legged subs to lay mines at places like Aparri and Saigon. All long-range subs ordered to patrol in arc from South China Sea to Philippine Sea.
10. Hong Kong - combat ships fleeing south.
11. Singapore - alot of ships fleeing up the Malacca Straits. Combat ships including Force Z heading toward Soerabaja.
12. India - didn't do anything here except set bases to build forts.
13. China - don't know what to do here yet. Garrisons look pretty weak at the moment.

Canorebel,

The value of "rest" in this game is entirely underrated. I strongly recommend you consider resting LCUs (not base forces) that are not in imminent contact with the enemy. This is particularly important in China, India and some areas of the DEI (e.g., Java, Palembang at the beginning, Timor, etc.) in the early game stages.

Good luck!

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Two-Day Attack on Pearl Harbor - 9/14/2009 8:22:12 PM   
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Pearl Harbor Shipping: Over two days, strike aircraft from the KB hammer battleship row, sinking BBs Nevada and Arizona, with other BBs suffering damage as follows: Pennsylvania (59 89 9 0), Nevada (57 87 25 0), West Virginia (53 86 8 0), Tennessee (54 65 5 0), and California (33 45 12 0). Since we are playing two-day turns, I doubt the Japs will return, which is a very good thing since three of those ships are in a bad way. Other capital ships suffering damage at Pearl: CA San Francisco (86 55 38 0), CA New Orleans (20 1 1 0), and CL Raleigh (22 26 37 0). Three DDs and a DMS suffered moderate damage. SS Dolphin and AV Wright suffered light damage.

Pearl Harbor Aircraft: The Japs lost about 80 pilots, most on day two of the raid. The Allies lost perhaps 60 aircraft on the ground.

Pearl Harbor Summary: Battleship row took a licking, but the Japs lost alot of pilots. Overall, I'd say the Allies came out okay.

Merchant Shipping Elsewhere: No sign of the Mini-KB or KBs although I'm pretty sure one is in the Philippine Sea and perhaps another in the South China Sea. But no carrier aircraft sorties there. Some land-based Bettys sank a a few AKs and AKLs near Formosa and Luzon, and Jap subs got a few merchant ships including AP President Madison off Palawan.

Combat Ships Elsewhere: A minesweeper sank I-121 at Singapore. No Allied combat ships have been damaged (other than at Pearl Harbor). Force Z made it to Batavia. The Hong Kong and Manila DDs have fanned out and are heading south. Boise and Houston seem to have sprinted to safety and will make for Koepang on Timor. I formed a raiding force around BB Prince of Wales - it will head north to Kuching over the next two days. BC Renown and a few escorts will make for Soerabaja.

On the ground: The Japs took Batan Island on the 7th and Makin on the 8th. Landings at Kota Bharu, but none yet on Luzon or the other big Philippine Islands. In China, there is so much more terrain, so many more roads, and units so spread out, that I don't knwo where to go or what to do yet. But I'll figure it out!

Two Day Turns: Tough on the Japs - for instance, Miller really can't try for a day three strike on Pearl, because to do so would commit him to a fourth day. Tough on Allies, too, because I commit PoW to steam to Kuching and can't recall her if things look inauspicious. But I REALLY like the idea of two day turns so that playing the game doesn't take FOREVER.

AE vs. WitP: I might be proven wrong, but as the Allied player I feel much more secure on the perimeter in AE than I did in WitP. In WitP, I felt like far-flung places like New Caledonia, Samoa, the Societies, the Aleutians, and even New Zealand could not be defended against an aggressive and experienced Jap player early in the war, if he wanted them badly enough. In AE, I feel like I have a decent shot of defending these places and will even consider defending bases like Espiritu, Port Moresby, and Fiji if given time. Of course, a wholesale Jap offensive against any one point early in the war will overwhelm the Allies, but it isn't like the WitP steamroller express. In a way, I'll miss the utter mayhem and uncontrolled nature of WitP, but it will also be interesting to forge ahead with the more controlled (and realistic) pace of AE.

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RE: Two-Day Attack on Pearl Harbor - 9/14/2009 8:31:07 PM   
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Good luck, pilot losses HURT BAD at this point for Japan

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RE: Two-Day Attack on Pearl Harbor - 9/14/2009 8:31:43 PM   
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RE: Two-Day Attack on Pearl Harbor - 9/14/2009 9:53:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I should be able to follow and offer a few comments here and there with this AAR. I had become economics minister and general sounding board for John so I withdrew from reading your AAR for many months of game time.

Be careful with getting those highly damaged BBs from Pearl back to the West Coast even after they get most of the damage under control. Those with high major damage (require only shipyard to repair) may still sink. I had it happen to me against the damn AI.

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RE: Two-Day Attack on Pearl Harbor - 9/14/2009 10:43:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, NY. You're another "old timer" I'm always glad to see around.

The only two opponents I've faced in WitP and AE are John III and Miller. One of these days I'll get around to some of you other gents...

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Force Z Goes into Battle - 9/15/2009 7:07:37 PM   
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Force Z: A reconstituted Force Z consisting of BB Prince of Wales, CL Danae, and three DDs steamed north from Batavia on the 9th, arrived at Kuching on the 10th, and found a Jap TF consisting of an AP, AK, and 2 PB. These four ships went down and Force Z is on its way back to Batavia where it will join two more CLs to form a western DEI Allied combat TF. An eastern force led by BC Renown is concentrating at Soerbaja, to be joined soon by CAs Boise and Houston, which safely arrived in Koepang. The strike by PoW is the first planned Allied attack of the war and was a success.

Pearl Harbor: The KB pulls away and heads south near Johnston Island. Damage to the American BBs and CAs drops slightly, but it appears that it will take quite some time to implement effective damage control.

American carriers: Saratoga remains at San Diego. Lexington and Enterprise continue south and will near Tarawa on the 11th and then continue south to refuel at Noumea. I'm not sure where they go from there.

Philippines: The Japs begin amphibious operations, landing at Lingayen, San Fernando and Aparri. Based on SigInt, I think another force is heading for Legaspi. I haven't figured out how to defend Luzon yet. In WitP I concentrated my forces at Manila and Bataan. But in AE there is more terrain, like Clark Field. I'm mulling my strategy now. For reasons unknown, the Japs aren't hitting the Allied airfields on Luzon (other than some very costly strikes to them on the opening two days of the war). PT boats tried to interdict the transports at Aparri, sinking a DMS, but a TF including CA Ashigara finished them off. The flight of the transports and small combat ships continues - there has been a marked absence of any Mini-KBs or land-based strikes. The Allies lost AMs Bittern, Tanager and Finch, a TK, and several transports which had the bad luck to blunder into dispersed Jap combat TFs including one led by CA Maya and CL Kuma. Another force led by CAs Myoka and Hagura sank AP Rochambaeu off eastern Mindanao.

DEI: The Japs began landing at Singkawang, Brunei and Miri. Over the two days, Swordfish from Singapore scored multiple hits on at least five AKs here. That, combined with Force Z at Kuching, has probably stung Miller's effort to make a quick grabs on the southwest coast of Borneo. So far, the Hong Kong and Philippine DDs have steamed south without incident. Another day or two and they begin arriving at Soerabaja and Batavia. Where in the heck are the Mini-KBs?

Malaya: Jap LBA hammered three AKs and two APs that were trying to evacuate a combat unit from Georgetown. Landings continue at Kota Bharu, but thus far no Jap troops have arrived at Alor Star.

CenPac: The Japs seized Tarawa. I think this was done by fast transport, so I don't expect Enterprise and Lexington to find any targets when they steam past this island tomorrow. At San Diego, 2nd Marine Parachute Battalion will embark on transports heading to Midway and 2nd Marine Defense Battalion will embark on transports heading for Pago Pago.

China: I found a big stack of Chinese combat units in the woods west of Ichang. They're going to advance into Ichang and then - I hope - I can evacuate them to the south. I don't like ground units stuck in the woods. I have alot of studying to do of the terrain in China to figure out the likely avenues of advance for the Japs and the best places for the Chinese to defend. I can't find any Chinese units designated for SEAC. So thus far I don't have any Chinese moving to reinforce Burma.

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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/15/2009 9:32:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

Glad to see you start another. Hope your addiction is of a milder form this time.


Finally ! Glad you have renewed your active membership in the cult.

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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/15/2009 9:47:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		If your not seeing mini-KB (which at start has only CVL Ryujo covering the southern landings on Luzon), then I would imagine that he "could" be finishing upgrading the CVE and CVL at Hiroshima from Claude to Zero after expanding the ship based daitai to fill the carriers. He has an empty CVE near Palua at start that may be getting some planes. They will be coming out of the morning mist in about a week to ten days.

Thus, I would be sending some subs to poke around the two bases around Palua (yes, I'm using the WITP names as I don't have the new ones memorized yet ).

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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/16/2009 12:34:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the tips.

It's odd not to see Palau on the map, but it also seemed odd in WitP not to see Peleliu.


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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/16/2009 4:31:17 AM   
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RE: Shattered Vow - 9/16/2009 4:48:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Thanks for the tips.

It's odd not to see Palau on the map, but it also seemed odd in WitP not to see Peleliu.




I refuse to call it Balebedop or whatever it is now.....it's Palau. We all know where it is. That is the most confusing re-name from WITP. That, and maybe Kwaj being split in two, though I suppose that makes sense

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Enterprise and Lex in Action - 9/16/2009 2:14:46 PM   
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American CVs: The American carriers found prey as they steamed just west of Tarawa. Miller sent two invasion forces to hit Ocean and Nauru Islands. The one targeting Nauru successfully landed its force and withdrew, but the Ocean TF was sighted and then hit by SBDs, which sank three AKs and put three bombs on CL Katori. The carriers will proceed to the Solomons and probably refuel at Tulagi before considering a patrol up around Rabaul, where the Japs have landed and taken Kaeving. (The KB was last seen heading south from Johnston Island - before Miller could commit them to action he probably needs to reprovision at Kwajalein).

Subs: I-20 put two TT into CA Indianapolis at Palmyra, and she went down. I-155 put a TT into TK Mindanao off Palembang and then put two into AK Ethel Edwards, which sank. S-38 sank a DMS at Vigan.

Shipping and Combat Ships: For the most part the dispersal of ships from the PI and DEI has gone well. Most transports will head to Colombo and thence to Aden or Capetown. Most combat ships will remain in the DEI where I hope to keep Miller honest by forcing him to protect invasion forces. The Boise TF will move to Kendari. A Dutch CL force will move to Balikpan in a few days.

Air: Massed Jap air strikes against Clark Field shut down that airfield and yield results decisively favoring the Japs. Elsewhere, Miller doesn't have any forward airfields in the DEI yet, so it's still safe for the Allies to move around in the southern reaches.

Land: On Luzon, the Japs have taken San Fernando, Aparri, and Vigan and have begun landing at Legaspi. Elsewhere, Shortlands, Nauru and Guam have been invaded. The Japs haven't approached Wake Island yet. If I was John III, I would have picked up the Marine CD unit at Midway and fast transported it to Wake, but I won't try it at this late date.

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RE: Enterprise and Lex in Action - 9/16/2009 9:27:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		As I continue with my first PBEM game, some thoughts regarding AE:

1. Overall, the game is vastly more detailed than WitP.

2. It is not vastly more complex, but only because WitP was vastly complex itself. So, AE is just extra vastly complex.

3. The game is awesome. Miller and I are about nine days or so into the game and haven't encountered a glitch, obvious bug, or "what the heck, this is ridiculous" moment.

4. The Japs take Guam and Tokyo Rose suddenly pipes up. Nice touch, developers!

5. Sent out all my subs not realizing (or forgetting) they are set to retire and that sub minelayers are set to "do not lay mines." This was frustrating, but something players will adjust to quickly.

6. Smaller hexes: yum!

7. Waypoints: Smackin' my lips!

8. Search arcs: Not really making use of them yet, but I will eventually.

9. Thousands and thousands of settings to consider: These may actually be a bit much, but what the heck. We'll probably grow to love them all.

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Suface Combat at Davao - 9/17/2009 1:23:35 PM   
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Philippines: A combat TF including CA Boise and CL DeRuyter raided the newly established Jap port at Davao on the 16th and tangled with a strong TF including CAs Myoka and Hagura. DeRuyter went down after taking seven shots. Both Jap heavies were set afire, but I think their damage was light. Boise and her DDs will retire to Kendari. In addition to Davao, the Japs have bases at Puerto Princessa, Legaspi, and Jolo. The latter is a level three airfield, so the Japs will be able to project air power much deeper into the DEI now. In other surface combat, CA Nachi TF sank an AKL near Legaspi; Myuoka/Hagura took out an AKL near Dadjangas; and a PT TF sank AK Syvla Maru at Puerto Princessa. The PI are now clear of Allied shipping. The Japs haven't begun advancing on Clark/Manila out of the beachheads, yet.

DEI: The Japs have established bases at Brunei and Jesselton in addition to Miri, but still haven't seized a base in the south, allowing Allied ships to still move around with impunity (except for submarine activity). The situation here brought to mind a plan described below.

Malaya: The Japs took Kota Bharu on the 15th and have begun advancing down the peninsula. The Allies have begun withdrawing from advanced bases and will look for opportunities to delay the Japs before the final withdrawal to Singapore. The AVG at Rangoon downed five Betties that came after CL Dauntless.

Subs: The Japs scored alot over these four days: I-166 and I-157 sank a pair of AKs near Batavia; I-158 sank an AK near Singapore; and I-26 and I-5 sank a loaded TK and AK between San Francisco and Hawaii. The Allies have begun forming ASW TFs that are operating in patrols out of Batavia, Soerabaja, and Pearl Harbor. S-38 put a TT into an AKL at Laoag, Luzon.

Solomons: Several small cruiser forces passed through Tulagi with another stationed at Rabaul. It will bombard the new Jap base at Kavieng tomorrow and then may withdraw to safer waters.

American Carriers: Moving south of New Guinea now and heading for Darwin. I "think" several Dauntless sightings of subs may have allowed Miller to keep track of Enterprise and Lexington.

Allied Plan: With Miller stymied by Force Z and LBA strikes in his efforts to take either Singkawang or Kuching, he may be waiting to pull together a strong force before returning. I want to foster the appearance that the Allies are going to defend the DEI, both to force Miller to allocate additional resources here and to make him wonder if the Allies are contemplating a Fortress Timor/Java type defense. The Boise raid on Davao was done to add to this perception and the arrival of the American carriers should do the same. I'll have Ent/Lex refuel at Soerabaja and make clear their presence, then I'll try to withdraw without detection. Miller has to get the DEI in order, so I hope these moves will persuade him to bring everything he needs and more. That, in turn, should give the Allies time to reinforce the key perimeter bases like Pago Pago, Palmyra, and Midway.

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Map of Philippines/DEI Operations - 9/17/2009 4:04:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		12/16/41 Map shows the status in the Celebes Sea region. Since we are playing two-day turns, Miller's advance must be a little bit slower. If, for example, he takes an airbase on turn one, he won't be able to move aircraft forward until turn three.




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Score as of 12/17/41 - 9/17/2009 5:07:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		No major surprises here, though Jap air losses may be a tad bit high.

The only major Allied ship losses (other than two BBs at Pearl) are CA Indianapolis, plugged by a sub at Palmyra, and CL De Ruyter, sent under by CAs Myoka and Hagura at Davao.

The only major Allied victory at sea was SBDs from Ent/Lex knocking out CL Katori in the vicinity of Ocean Island.

The war is just beginning....




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Hong Kong cracks - 9/17/2009 8:32:09 PM   
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DEI Pressure: The Allies continue creating noise to draw Jap attention. PoW bombarded Singkawang and a TF including CL Canberra and CLs Perth, Achiles, and Leander bombarded Kavieng. Over the next two days, PoW will return to Singkawang, the garrison will try a deliberate attack (to this point, the unadjusted AVs are about equal at 33); CL Marblehead will lead a raid on Dadjangas; and CVs Enterprise and Lexington will dock at Darwin.

Hong Kong: Back to back deliberate attacks by the Japs come off at 1:1 and 2:1, with the Allies suffering 3x casualties. Miller may rest his troops for several days, or he may attack again. I expect Hong Kong to fall.

Singapore: The first big Japanese air raids clobber both the CAP (Buffaloes) and the airfield, destroying more than a dozen aircraft on the ground.

Philippines: The Japs take Lingayen and Laoag.

Subs: Jap submarines continue to work the seas. I-170 and I-19 take out AKs near Hawaii and I-162 gets and AKL near Palembang.

CenPac/SoPac: An AS will make for each of Midway and Pago Pago to provide local support for submarines. 2nd Marine Defense Battalion is well on its way to PP and 8th Marine Regiment is loading at San Diego. 2nd Marine Paratroops should arrive at Midway within a week. The Allies intend to make a firmer stand at these outposts, Fiji, Noumea, and Port Moresby than I would in WitP. Miller can concentrate his forces and take some of them, but I don't think he can move fast enough to take all of them. In WitP that was no problem for an experienced Japanese player.

AE vs. WitP: Began naming TFs this turn - things like "Sub support for Pago Pago" - what a marvelous addition to the game!

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Tokyo Rose's Second Taunt - 9/18/2009 1:54:51 PM   
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Tokyo Rose: The Japs took Hong Kong on a 3:1 attack on the 20th, so Tokyo Rose made another taunting announcement. Naga, in southern Luzon, also fell.

American carriers: By the evening of the 20th, Enterprise and Lexington stood off Darwin about 160 miles. Once again, SBDs had reported a sub sighting while the carrier TFs were underway. I'm assuming that if my SBDs sight a Jap sub, then Miller also sees the report, so he should have a decent idea as to the location of my carriers (which is fine as long as the KB isn't in close proximity). Rather than have my carriers sit at Darwin for a day or two, they'll continue on to Soerabaja, refuel, and then slowly and secretly fade away (I hope). I have ASW working around Soerabaja, but this will be a time to "hold my breath."

KB: No sign of the Jap carriers, but after two tough days of strikes at Pearl Harbor - strikes that cost the Japs 80 good pilots - I'm sure Miller would have to refuel at Kwajalein or Truk, so even was able to track the American carriers and decided to give chase, he'd be behind. I hope.

Subs: Jap subs have been a growing menace, especially between San Fran and Pearl Harbor. I-4 sank an AKL and I-6 took out an AK. ASW damaged a sub near Batavia. Temporarily, I'll suspend shipping to Hawaii, and all convoys leaving the west coast will steam from San Diego rather than Frisco. 2nd Marine Parachutes will be heading into Midway in a few days and there's a Jap sub operating there too. I'll use waypoints to try an end run.

DEI: PoW bombarded the Japs at Singkawang on the 19th, and an Dutch deliberate attack failed at 1:3, but inflicted 5x casualties. A large concentration of Jap TFs was sighted in the southern South China Sea, so I think Miller is moving on Singkawang or Kuching. With the American carriers in the area he'll have to be cautious (assuming he knows they are there). CL Marblehead TF depth charged RO-33 off Tarakan.



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RE: Tokyo Rose's Second Taunt - 9/18/2009 8:29:21 PM   
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Hong Kong: Something strange happened, because it turned out I still hold Hong Kong. But she fell again (I think). So I got to hear Tokyo Rose make the same announcement back to back turns.

American carriers: With fuel supplies running low, the Ent/Lex TFs are drawing closer to Soerabaja and shood dock in three days. I have three ASW TFs working the port, but I'm still holding my breath.

Malaya: Four Jap BBs (Haruna, Yamashiro, Mutsu, and Fuso lead an amphibious force to Mersing; Vildebeasts torpedo and sink a big AP (Argentina Maru), AK Tola Maru, and score single bomb strikes on two other AKs. The Allies are in full retreat down the peninsula, but I may have waited a bit late to move some units. Nells torpedoed two AKs and an AKL at Singapore. I don't know where they came from. A CL also arrived there "out of the blue" (Cere?). Ghosts ships apparently.

Japs Subs: Sink AP Devonshire near Toboali.

Strategic Status: No sign of the Japs at Wake Island yet and no sign of them around Rabaul. I think the Allied bombardment raids at Kavieng and in the Borneo/Celebes/southern PI region have persuaded Miller that there's some Allied combat power in the area; enough so that he may want to await arrival of big guns before venturing too far forward. That's my intention, so I hope so.

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Flight of the Bumble Bees - 9/19/2009 1:05:21 AM   
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American Carriers: Ent and Lex TFs arrived at Soerabaja ahead of schedule. The escorts battled I-159 offshore and a Dutch ASW DD later got torpedoed and went down. I wonder if the escort vs. sub battle generated enough information for Miller to pinpoint the carriers? The two TFs refueld and re-armed. I toyed with the idea of sending them hunting south of Mersing, but the thought of Jap bombers at Kota Bharu dissuaded me. The carriers will leave Soerabaja and head southeast to clear the area; from there I can see if there are any opportunites to strike, or I can head to safe waters.

Malaya: Zeroes on LRCAP over the invasion fleet chewed up a motley crew of bombers and fighters. Swordfish from Kuching managed to put three bombs into an AK off the coast, however.

AE vs. WitP: To reiterate - I LOVE the ability to name task forces. I also like the fact that combat ships steaming at normal speeds don't incur tremendous SYS damage. My two carrier TFs went all the way to Soerabaja with only a few ships taking any, and those took minimal SYS damage.


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RE: Flight of the Bumble Bees - 9/19/2009 3:24:37 AM   
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Nice to see you have found the "correct" AAR to update.

Michael

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RE: Flight of the Bumble Bees - 9/19/2009 3:01:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, thanks, Michael!

I don't know how I did that, but it sure was embarrassing.

...and then the thought that my opponent could read Q-Ball's AAR and get an eyeful of critical information about the location of my carriers!

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How're you guys using ACMs? - 9/20/2009 12:49:12 AM   
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American Carriers: The Lex and Ent TFs have moved SW of Timor, but I'm not sure what to do now. During the cruise from near Hawaii all the way to Java, I knew I had enough of a head start that the KB couldn't catch up. But *if* Miller knows the location of the carriers he's now had sufficient time to bring the KB into the area. However, he may not know and he may have the KB deligated to some other region (covering for an invasion of Rabaul being one possibility). I would like to employ my carriers once in the area if I'm certain the KB isn't nearby, so I'll hang around a little while and see if I get a KB sighting in some remote corner of the Pacific. If not, the American CVs will likely head to Perth.

Malaya: The Japs took an empty Alor Star on Christmas day. The Jap troops that took Mersing have moved across the peninsula and I have some units that may be cut off. Nevertheless, the defense of Singapore should include about 1200-1400 AV for the Allies.

Philippines: The main Japanese army has advanced to Clark Field, where the Allies have a stout army too. I haven't decided whether to pull back to Manila, yet. In WitP, Manila is an urban hex that's a tough nut to crack. I *assume* the same holds true in AE.

Japs Subs: Arg, a nuisance. I-174 and I-175 got an AKL and an AK near Pearl.

CenPac/SoPac: 2nd Marine Parachute Battalion made it safely to Midway. This island can hold 6,000 troops and I have about 5,000 there now. 2nd Marine Defense Battalion is well on its way to Pago Pago. An engineer unit is on the way to Tahita. I paid politcal points to free up a Kiwi Brigade and pioneer unit to head for Noumea. Also, an EAB has just left San Diego for the long journey to Nouma. B-17s are using Wake Island as a stopping point on the way to Cagayan. From there, some will head to Australia and others to SEAC/India. No signs of Jap movement against Rabaul and Wake, yet.

ACM Use: Pearl Harbor begins the game with two ACM ships that can carry 20 mines apiece. I know I need to leave one there to tend to the minefield, but what about the other? Are they too valuable and rare to risk, or should I send one to a key base like Pago Pago or Noumea?

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