Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

As for writing a script language for the casual player to use "to write his own scripts", ...

Have you stopped by a good book store and looked at the section on programming languages? Try to find a book there that is less than 100 pages. Then try to read the first 2 chapters.

Unfortunately, I have, programming beeing my job

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I have no interest in trying to teach inexperienced programmers how to program. Nor am I interested in writing the definitive book on LAIO (Language for AI Opponent), which I've created for MWIF's AIO. To do so would require at least another year of work. Just laying out the chapters and sketching in the content for each would be time consuming. To hope that the result would be practical and used by more than a few dozen people would be very optimistic.

Here is an example of a simple script for setting up the units:

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ORIGINAL: abj9562

Steve, since the majority of your revenue from MWiF (I assume) is tied up in the release how long will you be able to eat? Do we need to start a breadline in Hawaii to keep you going or does Matrix have your back covered?

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

If this is all true, maybe we would need an update in the release date. I will not complain, a game is ready when it is ready. there is no point in delivering a game full of bugs.

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ORIGINAL: composer99

I don't disagree with (what I perceive to be) the underlying substance of Bo's argument: that the game has taken an awfully long time to come out and that the constantly shifting 'release date' is a cause for concern, irritation, and doubt as to the success of this project. I am getting impatient myself. So I apologize if that is what my riposte implies.

However, I certainly disagree with the notion that the fora are a 'farce' and with the characterization of us contributors & more optimistic types as being naive or coddling. I also disagree that Steve hasn't been getting help: the fora are stacked with people voluntarily assisting on their own time. Imagine how behind things would be if Steve had to take care of the map all by himself without Patrice's help, for example. These comments strike me as cheap shots rather than meaningful concerns about the progress of MWiF development.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: composer99

Mistaking brusqueness for forthrightness, Bo?

Apart from any questions of whether it would be worthwhile to bring additional programmers into the mix at this stage (I concede that with the way Steve has documented his code at least another programmer could understand what is going on), there is the money question. Will MWiF sell enough copies to pay more developers to work on the project? Probably not, especially if additional personnel drive the unit price up to the point where only dyed-in-the-wool WiF players will buy the game. We could complain to Matrix all we wanted, but if it comes down to the money question then we're not going to get more developers on the team.

I agree that us "nice, gentle, understanding" people (the latter two qualities are often listed as virtues, and for good reason) deserve what we are getting. And what we are getting is a quality product. I certainly feel we deserve it. We'll certainly be paying for it.



Composer you people are kind understanding nice gentle people I meant that as a compliment and slightly derogatory, there is not one poster here that would not help out the next person here if they needed it, but it seems to me your being put through the hoops by Matrix and friends and you DONT DESERVE IT! I begged Steve in a post no more whens, put it out when its ready. No we had to get another completion date and that just nailed me to the floor sorry. And you people here hoping for a good game at a reasonable price should get a 30% discount and I should be made to pay a 20% penalty on top of the regular price and I will do it if its out by December 2???.

Bo

(in reply to composer99)

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ORIGINAL: macgregor

Steve is a good friend of mine and I will defend him wherever and whenever I can. But I think Bo brings up valid concerns that I wouldn't want to see squelched. This game may well take another 6 months to release, but I'm not going to try to usurp an estimate that's really Steve's to make. There's nothing wrong with saying that an estimate is difficult right now. It's very possible with the deliberate, methodical approach that Steve is on, that even if the AI is not close to completion, it could quickly reach a point where all that's necessary is to 'fill in the blanks' with information that he already has concluded. I'd say right now we have to see how long it takes to fix the bugs. Once that critical milestone has been reached, which Steve is making progress on an almost daily basis, a much more accurate estimate will be made. The excitement over a release has caused anticipation, anxiety, and some impatience. But I think that is only natural, and in the long run a good thing.

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ORIGINAL: bo

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ORIGINAL: composer99

Mistaking brusqueness for forthrightness, Bo?

Apart from any questions of whether it would be worthwhile to bring additional programmers into the mix at this stage (I concede that with the way Steve has documented his code at least another programmer could understand what is going on), there is the money question. Will MWiF sell enough copies to pay more developers to work on the project? Probably not, especially if additional personnel drive the unit price up to the point where only dyed-in-the-wool WiF players will buy the game. We could complain to Matrix all we wanted, but if it comes down to the money question then we're not going to get more developers on the team.

I agree that us "nice, gentle, understanding" people (the latter two qualities are often listed as virtues, and for good reason) deserve what we are getting. And what we are getting is a quality product. I certainly feel we deserve it. We'll certainly be paying for it.

Composer you people are kind understanding nice gentle people I meant that as a compliment and slightly derogatory, there is not one poster here that would not help out the next person here if they needed it, but it seems to me your being put through the hoops by Matrix and friends and you DONT DESERVE IT! I begged Steve in a post no more whens, put it out when its ready. No we had to get another completion date and that just nailed me to the floor sorry. And you people here hoping for a good game at a reasonable price should get a 30% discount and I should be made to pay a 20% penalty on top of the regular price and I will do it if its out by December 2???.

Bo

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ORIGINAL: composer99

If the only thing about MWiF to find was what was on the ADG website, the Matrix screenshots and the MWiF game website (In Development - Coming Soon!) I would have given up on this game long, long ago.

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ORIGINAL: composer99

Thanks for the clarifications, Bo. I generally try not to get my knickers in a twist about what goes on in these fora (particularly this thread since it is where most of the trolls come out from under the bridge ) so I do feel a bit bad about having jumped on you. I guess I did misinterpret your comments so my apologies for that.

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

Quick question:

Long time since I studied a bit of latin, but isn't the plural of Forum, Fori not Fora?

Not trying to show off, just make sure on how it really was in latin or if in English they have decided to do it otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets


As I recall (from 1962!) um => a, us => i, and a => ae.