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RE: Operation Retribution - 10/17/2009 3:54:57 PM   
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If Ent is repaired at Capetown, would it be faster to send her back to the Pacific via the Panama Canal?


Depends on where you want her in the Pacific, but the canal route is the safe route.

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Burma - 10/17/2009 8:38:24 PM   
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Cuttlefish is off the grid for a couple days, so I'll take the opportunity to review current status and plans.

First, BURMA/INDIA. I've pretty much made a hash of Burma.

In INDIA, I am digging and prepping on the coast, primarily in NE India; I am worried about a "hook" toward Chittagong, etc, to isolate Burma.

In BURMA, I had too much forward, and we are fleeing northward. At this point I don't think I can hold Burma, we are already thinking about moving over the mountains to India.




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RE: Burma - 10/17/2009 8:45:38 PM   
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Are the air units in Mandalay and Lashio units of the AVG?

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DEI - 10/17/2009 8:46:46 PM   
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In the Dutch East Indies, Ambon finally fell, we still hold Timor, Kendari, and all of Sumatra. Cuttlefish is moving primarily down the Makassar Strait. My surface ships are just about gone, we do have some airpower on Java. The objective here is mostly to cost the Japanese time and resources. If Java doesn't fall until early April, that will be a good thing.




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RE: Burma - 10/17/2009 10:01:09 PM   
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Are the air units in Mandalay and Lashio units of the AVG?


Chickenboy: I have one AVG unit in Mandalay; the Chinese HQ ones are in China. I may bring them back if they can't find anyone to fight there.

In the SW Pacific, my primary strategy is to quickly build the 2nd line of bases; I conceded Rabaul completely (in fact, Lark Bn is at Noumea), and I am building Noumea and Suva. Pago Pago is most important, and I feel reasonably secure there. 41st US Div. is prepping for Noumea, and almost ready to be purchased.




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RE: Burma - 10/17/2009 10:12:00 PM   
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Edited to omit my egregious security leak (details pertaining to my own strategy - duh, my opponent can read Q-Ball's AAR).

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RE: Burma - 10/18/2009 12:20:20 AM   
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Pago Pago seems important, but what if they come around behind that line and take Canton or possibly the line islands?

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RE: Burma - 10/18/2009 12:52:00 AM   
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Pago Pago seems important, but what if they come around behind that line and take Canton or possibly the line islands?


Take it back. :P

I don't think the atolls are defensible.

You can put some long toms there though, and exact a heavy price if he invades.

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RE: Burma - 10/18/2009 1:35:45 AM   
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Right, I suppose that is the real value of Pago Pago--> an unlimited troop capacity.

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RE: Burma - 10/19/2009 2:22:48 PM   
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Good comments guys on the bases. Xxzard, yes, one attraction of Pago Pago is the troops size. The port could be larger, but that's the best available down there. Noumea or Fiji are better platforms for offensives, but Pago Pago is safer, and the line in the sand so to speak; we need to hold it at all costs.

Combat Report, Jan 20,21 1942

Brief update, as this is a slow couple of turns.

China
Wenchow falls, and with it I have 4 Chinese units cut off in the Northeast of the country. Everyone else up there is pulling back to the MLR in the south. No big deal, I can lose some troops.

Burma
The rout continues, as my troops stream north toward Mandalay, with the Japs on their heels.

DEI:
Balikpapan is cracking, and should fall tommorow. That will start to make Soerbaya untenable, if he puts Bettys at Balikpapan. The fuel stockpile on Java is down below 100K total, so I've moved alot of it already to Australia, at some point I will have to shut that operation down.

The last surface combattants have left the DEI. I may return with Lexington if I don't see KB lurking there. KB has not been spotted in 3 days, and that was north of Ambon, so it's either heading toward Tarakan or Truk to pick up fuel, and commence some sort of operation.

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RE: Burma - 10/20/2009 12:01:53 AM   
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Combat Report, Jan 22,23, 1942

A few interesting events this turn

DEI
Balikpapan falls. I moved an SBD unit to Banjarmisan, and they took at shot at a large TF, targeting Nagato; 4 bomb hits, some smoke and noise, but I don't think it did serious damage. Afterwards, I quickly moved them back to Soerbaya.

I'm pretty sure those SBD pop-up attacks are making him nervous, and a bit cautious. He thinks Enterprise must have been pretty hurt (somewhat true; not THAT hurt, but in the yard). The objective really is to make him slow the advance and cover everything. That seems to be working.

Off Soerbaya, a TF of 2 TKs and an AM were attacked by 9 x Zeros and 12 x Vals; this attack originated from a large TF reported as "BB,BB,BB,BB,CV,CA,CA" etc, and reported to have 200 aircraft. Yet, that's a pretty small stike? Not sure what this means. The sighting report indicates that it's Kido Butai, and the Vals would indicate that as well. But wouldn't the strike be much larger than that? And CF could easily load some Vals on a CVL to fool me there.....I can't decide if it's KB or Baby KB. I had planned a possible incursion by Lexington, if I can't be sure it's NOT KB, then best stay away....so sense getting killed up there.

Luzon:
The other interesting thing is the brave defence of Clark. This is going well so far, this is the 2nd 1-2 attack so far, and the Japs took alot of casualties. As you can see, this is pretty much the whole USAFFEE from my side.

Luzon is going way different than my other PBEM, where I am Japan. In that one, my opponent split USAFFEE troops to cover Manila and Clark. Problem is, I attacked Clark, and the defenders all retreated to Bataan. I then liquidated Manila, and now I am moving on the remaining 60% or so of USAFFEE troops in Bataan. I think attempting to defend Manila in AE is foolish; better to just let the Japs have it, and concentrate on Clark. He who defends everything as they say........

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 65462 troops, 567 guns, 456 vehicles, Assault Value = 1851

Defending force 59780 troops, 749 guns, 646 vehicles, Assault Value = 1460

Japanese adjusted assault: 682

Allied adjusted defense: 2020

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4430 casualties reported
Squads: 54 destroyed, 172 disabled
Non Combat: 37 destroyed, 191 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 51 (5 destroyed, 46 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
3890 casualties reported
Squads: 49 destroyed, 174 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 260 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 109 (39 destroyed, 70 disabled)


Assaulting units:...
9th Infantry Regiment...
Tanaka Detachment...
4th Tank Regiment...
47th Infantry Regiment...
4th Division...
21st Ind. Engineer Regiment...
2nd Tank Regiment...
48th Engineer Regiment...
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment...
65th Brigade...
38th Division...
48th Recon Regiment...
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment...
20th Infantry Regiment...
7th Tank Regiment...
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion...
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
14th Army...
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion...
48th Field Artillery Regiment...
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion...
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Defending units:...
26th PS Cavalry Regiment...
1st PA Infantry Division...
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion...
31st Infantry Regiment...
Subic Bay Defenses ...
45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team...
192nd Tank Battalion...
4th Marine Regiment...
57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team...
51st PA Infantry Division...
31st PA Infantry Division...
194th Tank Battalion...
41st PA Infantry Division...
91st PA Infantry Division...
11th PA Infantry Division...
1st PA Constabulary Regiment...
3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion...
14th PS Engineer Regiment...
71st PA Infantry Division...
2nd PA Constabulary Regiment...
21st PA Infantry Division...
4th PA Constabulary Regiment...
Far East USAAF ...
Asiatic Fleet ...
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment...
Clark Field USAAF Base Force...
USAFFE ...
Provisional GMC Grp ...
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment...
1st USMC AA Battalion...
Manila USAAF Base Force...
301st Construction Battalion...
803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion...
Cavite USN Base Force...
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment...


Sub Wars
A Dutch Sub put a serious torp hit on CL Tama off Balikpapan. CF admitted it was life-threatening. I suspect she'll make it though now that CF has the port. Maybe I'll port raid it tommorow, see if Tama is still there......I can reach it from Soerbaya via B-17.

He paid me back by getting a TK off French Frigate Shoals; it went down. She had just finished a fuel delivery to Midway, which I hope to make an advance sub base.

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It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 3:49:26 AM   
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Combat Report, Jan 24 1942

Well, my questions as to the whereabouts of KB were answered. A big Japanese armada appears off Soerbaya and toasts some of my ships. Bastards!

Next Steps
My blood boils for revenge. I have set 36 SBDs, 14 Vildebeests, and Wildcat/Buffalo escorts to attack those insolent Japanese forces. They will probably withdraw like the cowardly dogs they are.

B-17s from Batavia, and Martin Bombers from Samarinda and Banjermesan are going to bomb the port at Balikpapan tommorow, to hopefully finish off that damaged CL, which is reported in port.




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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 4:24:16 AM   
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I would not send your SBDs or anything else at KB. Right now, you just need to make inroads - "death by 1000 paper cuts."  Go after his transports and tankers. Warships are nice, but the other ships are more important at the moment. 

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 4:37:57 AM   
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Good AAR, Q-Ball.  I'm following and enjoying and picking up ideas and learning.

I've tried the "disperse" and try to defend several strongpoints strategy (both on Luzon and Java) and have not been pleased with the results.  So your Clark defense sounds like the way to go.

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 4:38:58 AM   
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I would not send your SBDs or anything else at KB. Right now, you just need to make inroads - "death by 1000 paper cuts."  Go after his transports and tankers. Warships are nice, but the other ships are more important at the moment. 


I would rather attack transports, problem is that you can't specify targets. If I could, I wouldn't have dropped 1000lbers on Nagato yesterday, which did nothing. 4 hits on a cruiser, on the other hand, would have really hurt. Either way, I have to set to Nav Attack and hope for the best; but if a CV is in the way, they'll attack that and nothing else, not until tranports pull in range and I can monkey with the ranges.

I don't see an invasion of Java though for at least 3 weeks; not enough land troops nearby.

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 4:41:19 AM   
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I would rebase the carrier air into Java and strike. Your carriers are "safe" and the day after the strike, whether it was for good or ill, you can rebase your surviving air back to the fleet and run for the hills...or did I just confuse this with another AAR?

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 4:51:20 AM   
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Qball,

What's your VF escort capacity like on any prospective SBD strike? If poor, then Scotch the KB idea-that will result in a lot of dead pilots and lost airframes. If you have decent fighter escort, then it may be worth a stab at the eyes of the beast.

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 4:54:30 AM   
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I would rebase the carrier air into Java and strike. Your carriers are "safe" and the day after the strike, whether it was for good or ill, you can rebase your surviving air back to the fleet and run for the hills...or did I just confuse this with another AAR?


Howdy Tree!

This AAR could be confused with another AAR.

My SBDs are refugees from USS Enterprise; the Big E ate a torp off Java, she'll be fine, but will be out for awhile under repair. When that happened, I dropped off her airgroups on Java, to use as an unsinkable CV. So far I haven't done a ton of damage with that, but I think made CF bring more to bear on Java.

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Qball,

What's your VF escort capacity like on any prospective SBD strike? If poor, then Scotch the KB idea-that will result in a lot of dead pilots and lost airframes. If you have decent fighter escort, then it may be worth a stab at the eyes of the beast.


Good question, basically 27 Wildcats, plus Dutch Beefalos. Not a ton. It's probably a bit suicidal, but I figured what the hay.....it's only January 1942, and I'm causing a heap of trouble. Chances are he'll pull KB out of range, but you never know.

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Air Battles off Java: The Semarange Turkey Shoot - 10/20/2009 6:34:04 PM   
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Combat Report, Jan 26, 1942

I had set a number of air attacks around Java for today, including Naval Attacks to look for shipping, and a Port Attack on Balikpapan, to hopefully finish off CL Tama, which ate a torp and reported heavy damage right outside the harbor. Although it was pretty much a slaughter of Allied pilots, I am not totally displeased with the results.

Port Attack on Balikpapan
There was no CAP at all off Balikpapan, so we sent in the Dutch Bombers. They didn't do too badly:
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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires



Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x 139WH-3 bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb
3 x 139WH-3 bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 10
B-339D x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage



Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x 139WH-3 bombing from 8000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb
6 x 139WH-3 bombing from 8000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 11


No Allied losses



Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb



I didn't find CL Tama, but Namikaze is likely hurting from those two bomb hits.

Despite the risk of CAP, I am attacking again tommorow; Dutch bombers can't hit much at sea, so while I have a target in port, I may as well keep attacking it, CAP be damned. I expect some bomber losses tommorow.

Attacks on Kido Butai

As you can see, we have confirmed that this is Kido Butai. Our SBDs attacked, and 21 SBDs made it through CAP to start their attack run......



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Semarang at 53,100

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35



Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 17
SBD-2 Dauntless x 32


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-2 Dauntless: 9 destroyed, 17 damagedActual Losses: 7 F4F, 12 SBD

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga
CV Zuikaku
CV Akagi
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-2 Dauntless diving from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SBD-2 Dauntless diving from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 2 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers

Cuttlefish Admits this gave him a heart attack

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Afternoon Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
B5N2 Kate x 16
D3A1 Val x 16



Allied aircraft
B-339D x 5
F4F-3A Wildcat x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 1 destroyed
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CM Prins van Oranje, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS KIX, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
CM Krakatau, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT TM-15, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AS Zuiderkruis, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires



Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
16 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Port Attack on Soerbaya; I had moved most of the ships out of town
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Semarang at 53,100

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24



Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 12


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 8 destroyedActually, it's all 12 lost. It would be nice if they went with the escort. Without escort, this is a predictable result against crack KB pilots


All in all, alot of Allied losses on airpower.

Tommorow
It's probably time to pull out Enterprise's air. We have lost about 35% of the pilots and almost 1/2 the planes, so time to move it out. Enterprise will be in the yard for 3 months, so we have plenty of time to rebuild those airgroups. That attack would have been worth it if we could have managed 1 or 2 hits, but c'est la guerre.

Cuttlefish brought the KB hammer down on the DEI to no doubt restore order and chase away the Allied Navy. I now have nothing up there but Subs and a couple auxilliaries, so I suppose that mission is accomplished. I hope KB lingers for awhile longer, and doesn't move back to SW Pacific, I am taking this opportunity to move convoys without fear of intervention.





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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 8:32:55 PM   
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I would not send your SBDs or anything else at KB. Right now, you just need to make inroads - "death by 1000 paper cuts."


My advice would be to "fighter sweep" the KB. Just a few bombers, escorted by as many good-quality fighters as you can put together. Replacing Japanese CV fighter pilots takes much longer than replacing Allied land-based pilots.

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/20/2009 10:40:20 PM   
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My advice would be to "fighter sweep" the KB. Just a few bombers, escorted by as many good-quality fighters as you can put together. Replacing Japanese CV fighter pilots takes much longer than replacing Allied land-based pilots.


I like that tactic; in WITP as late-war Japan, that was the only way you could break Uber-Cap, send 1 Grace unit with 300 Frank escorts and hope enough Hellcats were shot down that you could make progress tommorow. It worked for me a couple times, but even then, you would lose tons of planes to flak, after the 500 or so that were shot down, and it didn't change the outcome.

I'll seek to do that with P-40s when he pulls close to Australia or something. For now, I don't have enough good-quality fighters. Other than those Wildcats, which are just OK, it's just Buffalos.

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/21/2009 4:50:11 AM   
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A few happenings the last couple days.

DEI
Kido Butai continues to terrorize the coast of Java. Other than getting SS Strugeon at Java, mostly it sank ships that I couldn't move because of short-range; AMcs, AGs, HDMLs and the like. Nothing important. They did sink an AS in Soerbaya. After 3 days of raids, KB disappeared, presumably toward Truk, to support...something else.

Dutch bombers attacked again at Balikpapan, and this time sank CL Tama. I knew she was there, and that was the real objective of that campaign. I am fairly certain I also got a Minekaze-class DD, the Namikaze. That wouldn't be a bad haul for Dutch bombers.

I have pulled the Enterprise airgroups to Australia. I will likely load them on ships for Capetown, to be reloaded on Enterprise.

Australia:
BB's bombarded Port Moresby; it is logical that this is the next target. I have 126 AV there, but haven't bothered to reinforce it. I have moved a bunch of cruisers to Cairns; with KB temporarily away, if the opportunity presents itself we will attack. If not, we will run away. Pretty simple.

Burma:
Speaking of running away, we continue to do so, to Mandalay. My defense there really sucks.

Singapore:
The siege has begun; Several Japanese divisions crossed the creek. The last two days have featured 1000+ Allied casualties to bombardments. This shouldn't take long.

CL Tama's sister Kiso in better days.......




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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/21/2009 12:09:14 PM   
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Where (or how) did you get this colored photo of the ship ?

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/21/2009 1:54:37 PM   
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Where (or how) did you get this colored photo of the ship ?


Here:

http://blog.livedoor.jp/irootoko_jr/

You can search for ships in English. There are over 500 images. I don't know who this guy is, but he does a nice job on the colorization

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/22/2009 3:48:19 AM   
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Q-Ball, thank you for the link to the pics. That pic of Kiso is really nice. I too wondered where it came from. Appreciate the link.

I like your writing style in the AAR. Succinct, but informative. For the record, I'd have gone for the strike on KB with the Ent's SBDs. A couple of hits on a CV or two might really be a monkey wrench in the IJN's ric ebowl.

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/22/2009 4:08:38 PM   
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Thanks for the comments princep01 and Svenslim

Combat Report, Jan 30,31, 1942

Relatively quiet, almost too quiet. Cuttlefish is prepping for major attacks at Singapore and on Luzon, and we see evidence of some interesting movements.

Singapore
The siege continues; Japanese bombardments are causing major casualties, we are shooting back but have fewer guns. I expect an attack any day, and then we'll find out how long it's going to hold. CF brought 5 Divisions to this party, so I don't expect it to last long.

Luzon
Same deal at Clark basically, although I have a better chance at holding out. I am not shooting back to conserve supply (which isn't a problem at Singers). He has alot of troops on Luzon as well, we'll see what happens after Clark falls. I still think the right thing to do on Luzon is to fall back on Clark, and abandon Manila.

Kido Butai
Kido Butai is gone from the DEI, and has been for about 3 days. I don't think CF was planning on committing it, but with the Enterprise raid, and frisky Allied cruisers, I think he felt he was getting off schedule, and brought over the hammer to restore order. I basically withdrew every non-sub from the DEI, so that mission is accomplished apparently. I suspect KB is headed back to Truk, to support SW Pac landings on Noumea or PM or maybe in the Ellice Islands (see below). Not sure, it will be a couple more days before KB can intervene anywhere.

DEI
Baby KB is parked off Java, covering a landing at Kendari. If CF keeps that force hanging around, I am going to take a shot at it.

Lexington's TF is still SW of Java, and I am bringing over HMS Indomitable to join it. Conditions would have to be just about perfect to attack, but we'll see.

Pacific
Totally quiet in SW Pac. Too quiet. BB's visited PM awhile back, I suspect that is the next target, but can't be sure. It would make sense though. The garrison there is as strong as it's going to get.

A Japanese TF showed up at Nukufetau, in the Ellice Islands. An Intel report says that TF includes CL Yubari. I am guessing it's a small invasion force, probably the TF that starts in the Marshalls. Still, that's getting close to Fiji and Pago Pago. I am sending USN Cruisers to Pago Pago to see if I can snoop what's going on.

China
Cuttlefish has been VERY quiet in China. I don't know why; maybe he is pulling units from there, or maybe doesn't like offensives there, but China represents to me an opportunity for Japan. He did clear out the NE and Wenchow, but otherwise isn't making much of a move.

I don't have a grand strategy in China, other than falling back to good terrain, training everyone like crazy, digging in, and looking to survive.




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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/22/2009 4:18:54 PM   
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What are you doing with Sara and Yorktown??

How close is Big "E" to Capetown??

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/22/2009 4:30:31 PM   
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What are you doing with Sara and Yorktown??

How close is Big "E" to Capetown??



Good questions.

The Big "E" is off the map, and approaching Cape Town, about 12 days out. It's a long trip. In hindsight I would have sent her to Perth, but if you recall at the time KB appeared just as I was moving her, and Cape Town was the only safe bet. When I pull into port I'll get a repair estimate, but it looks like 3 months anyway. Ouch! Big E's airgroups are gathering at Perth, and I'll probably just ship them to Cape Town. They are about 60% strength, and need time to rebuild anyway.

Sara and Yorktown are at Pearl. I JUST managed to get their airgroups upgraded to full strength; a couple cruisers are about to dock at Pearl (from repairing at Seattle), and I'll then have an aircombat TF. The question then: What to do with them?

Options:

1. SW PACIFIC: I would have to be careful not to put them in harm's way, because KB is likely going to be here. So the objective is to really make him do only one axis of advance at a time.
2. NORTH PACIFIC: Another option is to go up there; sooner or later he might try to land in the Aleutians, and that landing is unlikely to have air support. The CVs would wipe it out. We might be waiting a long time though.
3. NOTHING: Stay in port as a "fleet in being"

Not sure what to do, I am probably leaning toward #1, but I will not risk a fight with KB until at least mid-'42. My risk tolerance for that right now is VERY low, particularly with Big E out of action.

EDIT: Another idea is to raid Sakhalin. There isn't much the Japanese can do about it, and are unlikely to be prepared. There is plenty of merchant shipping off Sakhalin. The main purpose would be to rattle CF a bit, and make him commit resources up there; obviously we would be getting out of there super-quick.

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/22/2009 4:45:54 PM   
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How soon until CV Hornet becomes available??

I would take the Big "E" air groups and make them the 5th group on your other CVs. You can get to the high 90's and still conduct air operations, I think. If you had to leave an air group on shore, it would be the TB.

I think you can use your "carrier trained" air groups and eventually they become "carrier capable." I thought I read this somewhere.

I like to wait until the American's 5th CV before any serious KB "incidents."

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RE: It's Dark: Do you know where your KB is? - 10/22/2009 4:51:54 PM   
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No, I don't believe carrier capable groups ever become carrier trained.

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