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RE: What Happens in Java, Stays in Java - 11/9/2009 5:43:47 PM   
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What kind of experience has everyone had moving Pearl Harbor survivors? Did I try moving Nevada with too much damage in your experience, or just bad luck there? All minor damage was fixed.


I've had several "temporary flotation device" announcements for BBs heading back to the West Coast, but none as dramatic as yours. I still have two BBs at Pearl trying to get a handle on damage, rather drawn out since we're in late June.

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RE: What Happens in Java, Stays in Java - 11/9/2009 6:04:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I missed that Op Mode note on the combat report.

I've had the same experience as you at moving damaged ships. I found out early on that even mission speed is dangerous. Move them only when cruise speed is okay.

All minor flood and engine damage must be repaired before moving.

Get system damage down as much as possible.

If major flood damage is above about 50, I try to get it down at least that low. I had a bad experience with a BB in the 40's major flood, so I'm as careful as I can afford to be.

Erik Rutins noted that system damage level reflects the ability to resist increases in flooding and to get it under control when it happens. It abstracts damage to the pumps, etc. so having system damage lower is always better to move a damaged ship.

Minor flooding and engine damage repair first. After that, it seems like it all happens at random. Since you can't tell it to favor repairing system damage, the only thing you can do is take into account the level of system damage in deciding when to move a damaged ship. With lower system damage you might be more tolerant of somewhat higher major flood damage.

Hope this helps.

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RE: What Happens in Java, Stays in Java - 11/9/2009 6:21:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The priority for ship repair can be found on page 240 in the manual. You can see that systems damage gets less priority, but you can tell the game to repair it first, just by putting the ship in pierside. That way it can only repair minor damage and since there is no major system damage.
To me this seems the best idea to repair the BBs in Pearl, get all the minor damage away in pierside, then maybe shipyard repair until major flotation is under 40.

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RE: What Happens in Java, Stays in Java - 11/9/2009 6:51:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Smeulders - forgot to mention that is basically what I do. Only one BB at a time goes in the yard. The others are pierside, repair ship, and normal (or whatever it's called). I generally get the least damaged one through the yard (if that's needed) first, then send it on its way. After that comes the next least damaged, etc.

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RE: What Happens in Java, Stays in Java - 11/10/2009 4:13:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Smeulders, wipqs: Thanks guys for the help on Ship Repair. I can wait on the OLD BBs, I won't need them anyway for almost a year.

Combat Report, April 2,3,4 1942

China: Kukong falls, resulting in the usual pile of Chinese Casualties; over 13,000 pretty much killed outright. We fall back, not sure what happens next, but it's not likely to be a Thank-You Note and Invitation for cocktails.

Up north, after our victory at Nanyang, haven't seen much activity.

Pacific: We have just about unloaded the last of the American Division on Fiji. I am sending more troops to Fiji to really make it a fortress. I have no idea where the Japanese are going, but if they don't attack Fiji I can always use those troops for later.

Tongatapu reached size-3 port, and still growing. I would like to have it as a backup port.

Elsewhere, fuel levels are good in Australia, thanks to massive hauling from the DEI, and big honking convoys from Abadan and San Diego.

Kido Butai: I have no clue where it is, or where the next Japanese move is. None. For all I know, Akagi could be in Lake Michigan, preparing for a strike on the GM Plant in Racine.

Java: The Japanese seem to be shifting troops more towards Java, at least that's what the little arrows are saying. I have 3 Regts there fully prepped, maybe they hold, maybe they don't. We are ready though, evidneced by the picture below:





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RE: Repairs - 11/10/2009 5:09:39 PM   
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Sub Wars: At some point I will post a comprehensive sub strategy and tactics, and I'll probably wait until the SRA is done, because at the moment, I have sub bases handy in that area, particularly Soerbaya. Once the real war starts, I'll put together a sub plan.

In the meantime, I have been disappointed with the results; we have 2-4 sightings a day of TFs, sometimes there are attacks, rarely have there been hits. The last two days we sank something, O-23 sank a loaded transport off Makassar, and USS Pollack got an xAK off Hokkaido.

Great AAR Q-Ball. I would urge you not to forget that sub strategy update. Considering your background as a jap player, it would be interesting too hear your thoughts on this subject. That raid you did on Samah with the HK DD's in the beginning of the game was a good example of your insights.

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RE: Repairs - 11/11/2009 2:58:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Grollub: Thank you for your comments, glad to have a loyal reader! I will do a sub summary when the SRA is done and long-term sub bases are set-up, and when I have some time. Quick note though: Today an S-Boat off Iloilo sank a PB...one of the Ansyu-class PBs. Otherwise, I get alot of DUD torp hits. Probably sub captain's fault, the Bureau of Ordinance has told me the torpedos are just fine.

Combat Report, April 5-9, 1942

Been fairly quiet in the Pacific. Too quiet. I have no idea whatsoever where KB is, or what the Japs are up to, other than the obvious. Nothing. Nada. Not sure what to make of that.

China: Don't know what the next move is here for the Japs either. As I mentioned, Kukong fell with a massive butcher bill on my part. We are falling back toward Hengyang, I think this is the likely target. In central China, I am abandoning Kwieteh; it's a dot-base with supplies. My troops there are completely regenerated, but it's very exposed. Better to save them for another day.

Buildups: Not sure where the next move is; but I have built up Akyab, Noumea, Suva, Savaii, Pago Pago, Johnston, Christmas Is., Midway.......planning ahead. Transports are moving fuel and supplies all over. I have alot of ships in port, so no offensive plans for a month or two at least.

Java: See below; this is the last outpost in the DEI for the most part.






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RE: Repairs - 11/11/2009 11:58:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just to chip in on the ship repair issue, I sent Chitose on a 20 hex trip with only 13 float damage but high sys damage (60 or so).......she sank half way to her destination

I would suggest sys damage is under 10 before moving any ship with major float damage......

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RE: Repairs - 11/11/2009 8:15:49 PM   
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Battle of Java: I attacked the Japanese fleet off Semarang for two days with the entire KNIL; at start about 70 A-20s, and a handful of Hurris, Buffs, and P-40s. I was hoping to sink a transport, or do what we did to Ryujo, which is send her in the yard for awhile. Instead, we lost 35 aircraft over two days, without getting a hit. We did attack the two CVLs. The last Dutch Hurricane is shot down, that unit accounted for 8 A2A Zeros though, so I got my money's worth. I am down to 2 Dutch Buffalos; all the rest are destroyed. I still have a dozen or so P-40s and about 20 A-20s, so we'll repair and give it one last try. According to Cuttlefish, the Zero units on IJN CVLs have accounted for 140 A2A kills so far! That sounds about right. I think 100% of them are Dutch.

The Japanese landed the 48th Division at Semarang. This effectively splits the KNIL in two. I will retreat into Batavia because the troops there are 100% prepped for it anyway. The Soerbaya forces will probably head to the mountains. I am also sending my 3 armored units around to basically run around and make CF chase me.

My objective now is to keep Japanese troops busy on Java until May 1. If I do that, I'll be happy.

Lashio: My defenders there, mostly Chinese with some Burmese, are doing well; another attack repulsed at 1-2. I am gathering air units in Imphal, and will start bombing the Japs there tommorow. Lashio is JUST within range of Hurris and P-400s I have at Imphal.

Pacific Ocean: Still no sign of much Japanese activity. I haven't even seen a sub in awhile. Not sure what to make of all of this. Troops and stuff continue to unload at various spots; Noumea is building trenches. Pago Pago I think is now secure, almost 800 AV and size 5 forts.

Flight of the Canopus: AS Canopus was at Bataan until it fell, and until yesterday was docked at Cebu, dishing out torpedos. Some Lillys raided the port, they missed the ship, but no doubt CF knows it's there. Time to move from the PI.

I am taking bets on whether Canopus makes it. I set destination Dutch Harbor, where I could use an AS anyway, and set a couple waypoints. She is going to move due east, vector north between Pagan and Iwo Jima, then sail a few hexes north of Marcus Is, before heading for Dutch. Think she makes it?


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RE: Repairs - 11/11/2009 8:17:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Q-Ball, as I'm about to defend Java myself, is Batvia a better bastion than Sorebaja?

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RE: Repairs - 11/11/2009 8:45:55 PM   
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Q-Ball, as I'm about to defend Java myself, is Batvia a better bastion than Sorebaja?


It's better terrain anyway, light urban vs. Clear Terrain. So I would say yes.

Even better are the mountain hexes. Had I to do it over, I would have prepped units for one of those. Too late.

One thing, I made sure to rest/train all my units past 100.....the KNIL Regts are up to 45 exp, and 100% whole, and even the Landstrom Bns are into the low-30s. The Dutch have plenty of supplies, give them time and they get better......


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RE: Repairs - 11/11/2009 10:57:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I bet Canopus makes it unless you blunder into the path of a carrier.

I split my Java defenses between Batavia, Soerabaja and Malang.  The latter is a mountain hex.  Batavia fell easily.  Then Soerabaja fell with the troops retreating to Malang, which had 200 AV well-prepped.  Miller justifiably figured the hex was full of routed Soerabaja defenders, but found a rather tough nut given the terrain.  Here we are six weeks or more later and Malang still holds, tying down 4th Division in the process.  It really doesn't mean much, but it does suggest that the mountains make better defensive posts than does Soerabaja.

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RE: Repairs - 11/11/2009 11:16:53 PM   
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Java: Dan, I am making some changes. CF attacked Batavia at 2-1 dropping the forts; it's about to crack. I am moving troops to Malang, and will probably move all the Soerbaya troops there.

No matter what I do, it could be pretty quick, because there are now 3 Japanese Divisions on Java, the 48th, 21st, and Imperial Gds, plus tanks and stuff. That should be plenty regardless of what I do.

LAST CALL!: The fall of Soerbaya is about 5-7 days away. With that, I am sending all subs in the SRA to Soerbaya to fill-up on torps and fuel, as this is about our last chance.

After the fall of Soerbaya, there are still some odds and ends bases with small fuel caches to keep us going, and a couple bases where I can put Dornier seaplanes to sniff out traffic. That will help for awhile. I'm sure Cuttlefish will eventually get all those options off the table, at which point we will shift to Long-term Sub War planning.

Lashio: CF has been sending unescorted bombers to Lashio. Tommorow, I have the AVG plus 32 Hurris set on LRCAP over the base from Imphal.....let's hope it works. I also have a bomber run that's going to drop bombs on the Japanese troops.

Lashio's defenders have held so far, but Chinese troops are brittle, and these guys are no exception. I expect the base to fall soon, at which point we will head for the mountains along the Chinese border.

USS Canopus: You might be right Dan.....two days out, and nothing yet, she cleared the first hurdle, which is getting out of the PI, and is currently about 5 hexes east of Samar.

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RE: Repairs - 11/12/2009 1:09:20 AM   
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If you are successful in extricating Canopus safely, you will be good enough to alert Cuttlefish to this little setback for him after the fact, won't you?

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RE: Repairs - 11/12/2009 3:18:22 AM   
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Flight of the Canopus: AS Canopus was at Bataan until it fell, and until yesterday was docked at Cebu, dishing out torpedoes. Some Lillys raided the port, they missed the ship, but no doubt CF knows it's there. Time to move from the PI.

I am taking bets on whether Canopus makes it. I set destination Dutch Harbor, where I could use an AS anyway, and set a couple waypoints. She is going to move due east, vector north between Pagan and Iwo Jima, then sail a few hexes north of Marcus Is, before heading for Dutch. Think she makes it?


I always have a soft spot in my heart for her. I served on her name sake (AS-34 Canopus) from 1979 thru 1981 (about 2 1/2 years). I got on board while she was still in Rota, Spain servicing the USN SSBNs in and out of the Med. It took us 10 days to sail back to Charleston, SC. I was an Electronic Technician trained to repair cryptographic equipment on board those SSBNs. If you don't like cramped spaces, then stay out of their radio room. I have some very good memories about Spain.

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Tango at Tonga - 11/12/2009 2:29:25 PM   
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Kido Butai: Well, we definitively sighted Kido Butai, off Tongatapu. Pretty deep in Indian Country, bold move on Cuttlefishes's part. That reminds me that my Nav Search down there is deficient, as we obviously didn't pick up KB moving past Fiji. The silver lining in that is maybe CF thinks Fiji is vacant, which it isn't (see map).

KB found a large Convoy of 13 AK/AP and 2 DMs, and pretty much torched the whole thing. A single AP might make it. I can't remember what was on it, I think it had dropped off a Base Force and AA units at Tonga, or maybe a couple units at Auckland. Point being, it was EMPTY, so that was a good thing anyway.

Not sure where KB is headed next. I don't have alot of shipping nearby, there is an empty fuel convoy headed East relatively nearby, and Pago Pago/Savaii are within striking distance. A convoy carrying the 7th Marine Regt JUST made Savaii; I am rolling the dice and unloading it, but if KB moves any closer we are running away. As a precaution, I have 75 P-40s on CAP over the base; not enough to stop a strike, but enough to do some damage anyway.

Allied CVs: I have 3 USN CVs at Pearl that are being upgraded. Lexington and HMS Indomitable are at Auckland; the idea was to fly their airgroups to a land base if an invasion fleet approached Fiji or New Caledonia. With KB at sea, they will remian there. Enterprise is still at Capetown; current estimate is 107 days, and she is repairing slower than I would like. I will probably seek to bring them all together around July, when I get Wasp and TBMs; unit then, taking on KB is not advisable.

Java: In a small amount of revenge, I did finally get something in the DEI. CF had parked a DD TF off Soerbaya to I think nail my PT boats returning to base. They had sunk a transport the night before off Semarang. Instead, I put all my bombers at Soerbaya on Nav Attack range 0; finally an attack without Zero Cap! One bomber put a 250lb bomb on DD Fuyo, causing "MASSIVE EXPLOSION" per the combat report, and heavy fires/damage. I think she sank.

Lashio: The RAF appeared over Lashio, shooting down 2 Zeros and about 8 IJA bombers; pretty sure CF wasn't expecting that. For good measure, Blenheims dropped bombs on Jap troops. The next day I stood down, expecting Zeros to sweep the base now. Nice hit for the RAF Hurricanes!

We are building airfields at Imphal and Dimapur. Once Lashio falls, I would dearly like to attrite the IJA airforce over Burma. CF might withdraw all his planes, so we'll see.

I continue to reinforce Akyab, it's up to 500 AV now (poor quality AV however).

Long Term Planning: We are still on the defensive, and I expect a major Japanese move somewhere. I want to start thinking about countermoves however, both to keep the pressure off other areas, and also for a long-term offensive.

I first want to think about the main Allied objectives. To me there are only really 2 strategic objectives:
1. Cutoff/Destroy/Prevent Fuel shipments from the SRA to the Home Islands of Japan.
2. Secure an appropriate airbase(s) to strategically bomb Japan.

To me, that's pretty much it. Japan isn't defeated until these two things happen. Obviously there is more to it than that, but that's the prime objectives. Everything else is a supporting objective, or interim objective to reach these two goals.

In the near term, it is important for the Allies to find a place to come to grips with the Japanese without being tethered to CV support. This is the main attraction of the Solomons; you can make progress without CV support, once you are established in the chain. Problem with the Solomons is that it's purely a stepping stone, and not terribly valuable.

I am intrigued by a move on TIMOR. The islands around Timor offer the opportunity to "Slog" toward Java without significant CV support, once established. More importantly, it is uncomfortably close to the Fuel and Oil in the SRA. That is hitting Japan where it hurts.

Getting there with alot of troops and resources is problematic. Supply and Fuel isn't a problem, that can come from Abadan and Capetown; the problem is getting the US troops and fleet over there. It can be done, but it's a long haul around the South of Australia. This is assuming that an offensive is launched through Perth, and larger bases at Gerladton, Port Hedland, etc. It would be easier if I secure Port Moresby and Lae first, but that's committing to a Solomons campaign, and it would be awhile before I could make Timor happen.

I have time to think about this. I don't know if CF intends a move on Northern Australia, if he doesn't, it may be time to occupy Port Hedland in force and start expanding it to a major base.





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RE: Tango at Tonga - 11/12/2009 2:36:29 PM   
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Your bases in this area appear to be very nicely defended. Good job in setting up their defenses.

I'll be particularly interested in how your 75 P-40 CAP fares versus a KB alpha strike. Make 'em pay!

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RE: Tango at Tonga - 11/12/2009 3:54:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Timor area is a good area to operate under LBA, but contrary to the Solomons, you know your ennemy will throw everything he can at you. It is the epithomy of the decisive battle for the Japanese. If he loses there, than the SRA is quickly toast and he ends up dry within months...

So it is nice but it requires a level of forcre you might not have yet while operations in the Solomons allow you to 1/ Train your troops, boats, pilots for decisive operations to come 2/ hurt the japanese by forcing them to spending forces in a battle that isn't decisive anyway for you 3/ bide your time for the right time and place where you can hurt him decisively...

TIMOR is a fantastic 1943 operation if planned well, it can finish the war by early 1944. But before it is very very risky because you know the japs will throw everything at you. Do you have enough to withstand that ?

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RE: Ontzagwakken! - 11/12/2009 9:43:10 PM   
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Combat Report, March 18,19, 1942

Singapore Raid: The big even this turn was a raid on Singapore. I wasn't getting anywhere over Merak, with all those Zeros, so I tried something different: I moved all my bombers to Palembang, and set them to attack Singapore. They were going without any escort, so I figured it would be a one-way trip for many. I knew Ryujo was likely in port there after eating that 300kg bomb a week ago, as well as a pile of other ships.

The attack went beautifully; despite a CAP of 30 Oscars, enough Dutch bombers broke through to put 3 500lb bombs into Ryujo! They wisely focused their attacks on that flattop. I don't think she sank, but is certainly trashed; all sorts of nasty fires and explosions resulted from those bomb hits, including "CRITICAL DAMAGE".

Despite the fact that Cuttlefish will probably increase the CAP, we are going back tommorow. Every bomber I have is attacking from Palembang, with about 20 B-17s flying from Batavia. Losses will be heavy, it will be worth it if we can just get 1 or 2 more bombs into RYUJO. Who knows, with a little luck maybe we even sink her.

I am usually not so profligate with planes, but the Dutch bombers are stuck on Java and doomed anyway, so I figure this is our best chance to cause some real damage before the lights are out. The P-40s and Mitchells in the Dutch pool can't be used elsewhere, it's "Use them or lose them", and I intend to use them.

I take back everything I said about Dutch Bombers.

China: I think Cuttlefish was a little slow on the uptake around the new realities of AE in China....that the Japanese can't ignore it, and that you can push the Chinese around. After a couple months of inactivity, he is starting to push the Chinese around.

Kukong is about to fall, and he attacked the big stack I had around Sinyang, forcing it back, and of course killing 10000 guys. At this point it's probably not safe in the open anymore, so we will be falling back on Nanyang, and probably into the woods north of there.







The p40 can't be used elsewhere but you will eventually get a dutch B25 squadron and A20 squadron in Oz. (They may be Hudsons that you can upgrade but they are Dutch pilots). Don't waste these planes. Looking over the replacement rates it looks as if the Allies will never get enough medium bombers. And, it may be a bug but I noticed an American squadron that can take the A20s as well. At least it did before the patch.




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RE: Ontzagwakken! - 11/13/2009 8:40:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		crsutton: I recently figured out you can use the Mitchells, but I didn't know that on the DB-7s!!! I will stop throwing them away then, because I agree: You really need 2E bombers, and they're aren't enough.

Combat Report, April 15,16 1942

Java: Thanks to crsutton, I am disbanding the remnants of the Dutch bomber force. Overall, I lost about 100 bombers over Java, and in return, as far as I can tell, I acheived the following:
SUNK: CL Tama,DD Namikaze, 1 AK
HEAVILY DAMAGED: CVL Ryujo, DD Fuyo

Not too bad in the end......actually, CL TAMA was really finishing off a cruiser heavily damaged by a Dutch Submarine.

On the island of Java, however, the land war continues. The Japanese attacked Batavia again, at 2-1 and inflicting 3000 casualties. It should fall tommorow. The units there are already pretty spent after 4 days of attacks. Another force is approaching Soerbaya, where a dozen Allied subs are picking up Fuel and Torps. When the 48th Division approaches, I will retreat to the mountains of Malang for a last stand.

On SUMATRA, I came within a hair of retaking Djambi with the refugees from Palembang. CF just got a tank Rgt. there ahead of me. Probably gave him a scare though.

China: The IJA is starting to bomb Wuchow. Not sure yet what that means...but CF did not pursue north toward Hengyang after taking Kukong. Maybe Wuchow is the next target?

Kido Butai Tour: The tour continues......I posted a screenshot which says it all, and detailed dispositions like I did to the east. Not sure why the raid, once he got that one convoy there weren't going to be high-priority targets in the way, which there aren't.

Strangely, there were no attacks this turn. I doubt he was running "dark", so probably weather.






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Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/13/2009 10:07:54 PM   
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Well, not exactly a Turkey Shoot, but a pretty darn good result. Too good IMHO.

My pilots were OK, they had been training, but not to the level of the KB pilots. CF has not engaged KB much at all, so he still had all his front-line guys. ZEROS swept the base a couple rounds, but the attack aircraft got slaughtered.

I have to say I just saw this in my other PBEM, Japanese attack aircraft get decimated, even against Wildcats. This may be closer to history, which means in AE, the Japanese are going to have trouble.






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RE: Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/13/2009 10:37:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did CF comment about his pilot's fatigue level? He's been operating them at high CAP and escort levels for several days now...

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RE: Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/14/2009 12:24:15 AM   
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Not to be rude but hoping to avoid spoiling great AAR's

How would you know this? If an assumption than state that. If from other AAR, don't comment on it. To protect the integrity of AAR

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RE: Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/14/2009 12:46:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		More validation on the P-39s doing very well against bombers, but not against Japanese fighters.  The current dilemma for the Japanese player is how aggressively to use KB.   Until patch 2 comes out and the pilot training program is tested and facts know, there is a trade off to be factored in.  CF has sunk some transports, but at what cost in his highly experienced carrier crews?? 

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RE: What Happens in Java, Stays in Java - 11/14/2009 1:34:58 AM   
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The priority for ship repair can be found on page 240 in the manual. You can see that systems damage gets less priority, but you can tell the game to repair it first, just by putting the ship in pierside. That way it can only repair minor damage and since there is no major system damage.
To me this seems the best idea to repair the BBs in Pearl, get all the minor damage away in pierside, then maybe shipyard repair until major flotation is under 40.



Yes, this is important point that I only just figured out. Leave your ships at pierside and get you system damage down to 0 and you are pretty safe moving just about any ship. However, as the devs pointed out, sh*t can happen and you can still have a ship go down with major flotation damage. I don't really think there is a difference between cruise and mission, as in most cases mission speed is cruise speed.



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RE: Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/14/2009 1:39:50 AM   
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Chickenboy,

How would you know this? If an assumption than state that. If from other AAR, don't comment on it.

Chill out, stldiver.

My assumption of pilot fatigue is an attempt to rationalize why Q-ball's pilots seemingly overperformed expectations. It's one of many things to check off-pilot experience, altitude, fatigue, aggressiveness of commander. I don't know this and I don't need a wet nurse to remind me not to cross-pollinate AARs with inadvertent intelligence from the other.

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RE: Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/14/2009 1:41:52 AM   
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Well, not exactly a Turkey Shoot, but a pretty darn good result. Too good IMHO.

My pilots were OK, they had been training, but not to the level of the KB pilots. CF has not engaged KB much at all, so he still had all his front-line guys. ZEROS swept the base a couple rounds, but the attack aircraft got slaughtered.

I have to say I just saw this in my other PBEM, Japanese attack aircraft get decimated, even against Wildcats. This may be closer to history, which means in AE, the Japanese are going to have trouble.







I got no problem with this although it should be AA doing most of the damage not fighters. In 1942 fighter control and intercepts were not that good. But carrier aircraft attacking well defended bases should get hammered. KB lost about 20% of it attack force in the attack on Midway, (shot down and damaged) and the Allies did not have much CAP there.

If I was the Japanese player, my policy would be no port attacks after the 1st month or two of the war. You gotta save those pilots for the carriers fights.

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RE: Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/14/2009 3:51:24 AM   
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crsutton and Chickenboy: Thanks for the comments....I don't beleive KB was fatigued. That is a good point about Midway, no doubt you have read Shattered Sword. But I am not comfortable with that result, particularly the killer P-39s.

Southwest Pacific: Things are quite heating up now. A few developments.

First, KB went a bit WEST of Noumea, looking for that small xAKL TF. Didn't find it, no idea why they didn't launch. Not that it's a high-priorit target.

In bigger news, Japanese troops are unloading at Luganville. They will take it, because I have absolutely noone there. Well, a guy with a radio identifying ships is all.

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RE: Noumea Turkey Shoot - 11/14/2009 10:46:41 PM   
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A couple interesting developments this turn in terms of Japanese movements.

Lashio: This base fell to an attack, killing off the usual number of Chinese units. Unfortunately, the troops withdrew to the north toward a Dot base, rather than "west" toward China. These troops are in danger of getting cut off. It's not the end of the world, the Chinese troops would grow back anyway, and the two Burmese Bns aren't worth much anyway.

Batavia: Incredibly, Batavia still holds; another attack killed 2500 troops, and destroyed a couple units. It won't be long now for this base.

Elsewhere on Java, Japanese troops are approaching Soerbaya, whose harbor is jammed with subs topping off on torps and fuel. I want to get them out again; a Dutch sub sank a subchaser today off Miri, so there are plenty of targets waiting.

USS Canopus: She hasn't docked yet, but is basically safe except for a sub. I will go ahead and tell CF that she escaped his clutches!

Luganville: This base fell to a landing of an entire Japanese Division, the 53rd. I didn't have a garrison there, and apparently it would have to be at least a Brigade anyway to make a difference.

It's not a big stretch to think a landing on New Caledonia is next; probably landing at Koumac, and a march overland. I detailed the garrison above, if CF really wants it he can take it, but he is going to have to bring alot of IJA to git er done.

Wuchow: A Japanese army is marching on Wuchow. This is obviously the next target. I don't have enough there to defend it, so it won't take long. It's a base that produces supplies, I don't want to lose too many of those. Perhaps that is CFs strategy.



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SW Pac Blues - 11/15/2009 4:47:59 PM   
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Java: Batavia finally fell after a week-long struggle. Although it held out against several attacks, the garrison was decimated, and might as well have surrendered. On the last attack, 5300 troops were killed outright. One Regt. has no infantry at all.

An infantry unit has approached Soerbaya; I am bombarding to determine it's strength, anything less than a division and I will attack it tommorow.

Otherwise, I have some troops at Buitzenborg, and more at Soerabaya. If I can keep him busy on Java through the first week of May, that will be a good thing.

Australia: To support my possible move in the long-term on Koepang, and also to keep Australia secure, I have decided to build Carnarvon and Exmouth.

I have several restricted units marching overland to Carnarvon to secure it. I am prepping 2 brigades for Exmouth, and sending a US Construction Regt. to Perth from Auckland. If I can build a base at Exmouth, I will go to Port Hedland. I don't want to charge ahead too far, because any units can easily be stranded out there.

SW Pacific:
See map below; I expect action in this area.




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