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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/20/2009 10:55:32 PM   
cdbeck


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Status: offline 		I agree Epsilon, PC has gone by the wayside in there. I even had to point out, to a worker at Gamestop, that he had Dragon Age for the PC (a big release) sitting behind him on the shelf behind the counter. I would have gotten it from a digital retailer, but I had a gift card I had to use.

That's why I get sick of this release date stuff. They demand equal treatment with PC games and tie the hands of the publisher (as Erik is somewhat experiencing) but don't abide by the rules set out in the contract. Here, they clearly broke contract - but still stay silent when asked if the publisher can release early to follow suit. I'm still hoping they will be reasonable and say to Erik - release away - sorry we broke street date, but at this late in the day, I'm thinking he never gets an answer.

Further, they relegate PC to small and disorganized shelves while console games get entire walls with multiple copies of titles. I understand why, the economics behind it, but this doesn't endear the PC gaming community to them. I'm to the point where I hope Amazon and Digital Distribution just completely take over PC game selling.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/20/2009 11:02:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't see it even being planned in European retail stores, so maybe you could release it for Europe earlier? 

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/20/2009 11:38:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		So it's yet ANOTHER broken release date by Gamestop. Add it to Demigod, Modern Warfare 2 and numerous others this year.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/20/2009 11:45:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		That seems to be Gamestop's business plan.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 2:15:30 AM   
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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 2:40:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Erik. Grabbed the update. Awesome game so far. I'm having a blast! I love how interactive the other empires are.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 5:22:13 AM   
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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 5:40:16 AM   
cdbeck


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Status: offline 		Oh great... now I get the pleasure of hearing another group of people talk highly about a game I can't get yet... 

Yup Fluffy... gonna be a long weekend!




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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 7:41:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		This really makes me angry. I already have said I'll never buy from gamestop or ebgames again. And they still jab me. Meh. Maybe I'll just not buy the game at all. Anyone who works with them deserves my scorn.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 9:01:27 AM   
AminMaalouf

 

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ORIGINAL: ControlledChaos
Awesome game so far.

ControlledChaos, any gameplay tips?
e.g.
- what is a good start position?
- what goodies should one look for in early game?
- what is the basic mass of planets to reach?
- what techline puts you on the save side (in early game)?

< Message edited by AminMaalouf -- 11/21/2009 11:06:28 AM >

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:02:15 AM   
Iceman

 

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Status: offline 		Martok posted this link to the Wargamer forums:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8iLEvTu27c

Sorry Martok, wasn't sure if you had already posted here too. Posted it to the Ntronium forums too. Good publicity I think.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:10:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Erio

This really makes me angry. I already have said I'll never buy from gamestop or ebgames again. And they still jab me. Meh. Maybe I'll just not buy the game at all. Anyone who works with them deserves my scorn.


It would nice to know why you hate gamestop so much. that you will not buy the game at all.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:17:41 AM   
AminMaalouf

 

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ORIGINAL: Iceman
Good publicity I think.

The main map is appealing and looks better than on the screenshots.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:24:55 AM   
Iceman

 

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Status: offline 		Notice thought that all UI pieces seem to be missing - including in the battle module. I think he was having problems with FRAPS or something. You can hide all UI pieces anyway, to have a larger map area visible.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:51:48 AM   
AminMaalouf

 

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Status: offline 		What we haven't seen (well some of course have) are what the turn change and modul upload times are in later game.

< Message edited by AminMaalouf -- 11/21/2009 12:01:29 PM >

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 12:00:14 PM   
EisenHammer


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Status: offline 		It's funny because gamestop already have PC games downloads.
http://www.gamestop.com/downloadnow
PC retail games with gamestop are dead IMO. Matrixgames would be better off going with Walmart for retail sales.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 3:05:45 PM   
ControlledChaos

 

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Status: offline 		Let's see...

- what is a good start position?
In my only game so far, I started towards the bottom of the map. I guess my neck of the woods must be really bad because most of the planets were mineral poor. The AI and I fought over the two prized planets. At this point, my empire is 6 planets, but only one isn't mineral poor, i.e. can allow mines, so I'm a little strapped for cash.


- what goodies should one look for in early game?
I would say go for a mix of planets with ideal atmosphere to allow rapid pop growth, and mineral rich planets preferably with oort cloud and asteroids

- what is the basic mass of planets to reach?
Not sure on this one. I think building construction slots depend on the population of the planet. More slots open up as your pop increases. But I'm not sure what the limit is.

Edit: I may be mistaken, but looks like each planet can support up to 100 pop. However, getting there depends on a lot of factors (growth rate, popularity, etc)

- what techline puts you on the save side (in early game)?
I went for construction techs early, followed by military as soon as I ran into multiple AI empires.



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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 3:19:52 PM   
AminMaalouf

 

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Status: offline 		Cool, thanks man,

if you have some other gameplay hints, next coffe break give us who're waiting some report, would be kind.

Question:
- how are the turn change and the upload times? Are they tolerable so far?



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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 4:27:42 PM   
PDiFolco

 

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ORIGINAL: neofit

I don't see it even being planned in European retail stores, so maybe you could release it for Europe earlier? 


I second that, there's no retail competitor outside US ...

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 4:36:33 PM   
Iceman

 

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Status: offline 		I think CC got pretty much the gist of it. The best starting position is having a Rich homesystem Start in a Poor one and things get a bit more complicated. It's random, though the neighbouring systems will be better if you start in a Poor system.
Ideally, you'll want to find a Very Rich asap. Look for them in the hotter stars (White and Blue) and in Black Holes.
Systems are capped at 100 pop, which allows 16 structures (7 pop per). A tooltip over an empty slot will tell you how many pop you need to open a new slot.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 4:43:36 PM   
ControlledChaos

 

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Question:
- how are the turn change and the upload times? Are they tolerable so far?

turns are pretty snappy. I've run into 5 different empires at this point and the turn resolution does not take more than a few seconds. Save games take less than 20 seconds to load.

Thus far my impressions of the game are pretty positive. It's got a MOO 1 / Space Empires feel to it. feels more like a MOO 1.5 without ship design.


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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 5:20:32 PM   
AminMaalouf

 

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thx

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 10:55:41 PM   
Tom_Holsinger

 

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Status: offline 		Gamestop's release of Armada 2526 has oozed west as far as Albuquerque, New Mexico. It might be in California by Tuesday.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:20:46 PM   
AminMaalouf

 

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Status: offline 		What is about the east coast? Has it been seen there already?

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:23:35 PM   
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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/21/2009 11:33:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

I'm to the point where I hope Amazon and Digital Distribution just completely take over PC game selling.




They already took over the majority of PC sales long ago. That's why you don't see many PC games in stores these days - most everyone with a computer has internet and knows how to buy stuff. Purchase, download (and/or ship), and play without ever leaving the house.

I'm surprised GS even keeps a dark, rundown corner of some stores devoted to PC games. You can just order direct from their website and it'll arrive at your home the same day they come to the store. *shrug* no brainer.


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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/22/2009 1:15:37 AM   
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area code 62022 by St.Louis
So far from just playing the tutorial its very good, I'll say MOO 1.5 sounds about right.


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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/22/2009 3:36:33 AM   
cdbeck


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Status: offline 		Well, I doubt we will see a weekend release, that isn't Matrix's style. But maybe, with all this Gamestop oozing, we might get an early Monday release - by that time it will be in a large group of retail stores.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/22/2009 7:36:13 AM   
AminMaalouf

 

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Status: offline 		It has been sighted in the Chicago area, according to a poster on Ntronic's site.

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RE: Gamestop shipping Armada already! - 11/22/2009 12:22:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		You know I'm going to go ahead and bite on this one. I've liked what I've seen so far. I'll wait for Matrix to release it because I'm a big Matrix supporter. However, I think someone from Matrix should call my wife up and explain why Thanksgiving is going to be runied for her.

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