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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 11/25/2009 1:49:43 PM   
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I'm waiting for the beta to come out for two reasons.  I'm curious as to what is covered and (most importantly) it starts the time clock for when the official patch 2 comes out (however long that turns out to be).



The other thing to keep in mind between Beta and Official... there will "likely" be zero data changes between the Beta Patch and the Official Patch...which means games started under Beta "should" be able to be continued under the Official Patch....without worrying about some crucial data change affecting the game.

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 11/25/2009 1:50:59 PM   
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I know, "to GOOGLE something" became a standart phrase instead of "to search for something in the internet".
What would happen to TERMINUS's confidence, if we replace this phrase with the "to TERMINUS something" ?


I don't know... Wanna find out?



No.

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 11/25/2009 2:53:03 PM   
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Thanksgiving in America is on the last Thursday in November--tomorrow as of when I posted this. So expect the beta in the next 12-14 hours.


...or maybe the 4th Thursday in November (looking to 2012 for the distinction)

I guess it won't be long before someone starts a "Patch 2 has ruined this game" thread.

Oh well, might need to do a few quick turns to catch up to the anniversary dates when December comes,

Chris

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 11/25/2009 3:42:39 PM   
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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 11/25/2009 3:54:29 PM   
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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 6:17:17 AM   
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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 6:36:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		It would appear to me, just reading the boards here, that the public beta has been very successful.  Quite a few little (and some not so little) items have been caught and squashed.

Nice job so far.

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 7:17:16 AM   
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The fog is clearing - I see a patch 02 a commin' !!!


Take your time

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 10:55:49 AM   
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The fog is clearing - I see a patch 02 a commin' !!!

REALLY important question:

I have the choice between doing a boring social thing either tonight or tomorrow night (yes, inlaws...).
I have to decide within one hour.
So...
If patch 02 comes out today, before 8 o'clock CET, I'd like to stay home and try it out and push my inlaws to tomorrow. Friday is seldom a gaming night anyway.
On the other hand, if patch 02 doesn't arrive today, I'd much rather get the inlaws over with tonight, so they don't steal my friday evening away.

See my predicament?
I have to know, within the next hour, if patch 02 arrives before 8 o'clock CET today.
Otherwise I'll be making my inlaw-decision completely in the dark - with potentially tragic consequences...

Mr. Wilkerson - please help a poor guy out of an ugly catch 22...!

< Message edited by briny_norman -- 12/3/2009 10:58:20 AM >

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 10:57:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

The fog is clearing - I see a patch 02 a commin' !!!

REALLY important question:

I have the choice between doing a boring social thing either tonight or tomorrow night (yes, inlaws...).
I have to decide within one hour.
So...
If patch 02 comes out today, before 8 o'clock CET, I'd like to stay home and try it out and push my inlaws to tomorrow. Friday is seldom a gaming night anyway.
On the other hand, if patch 02 doesn't arrive today, I'd much rather get the inlaws over with tonight, so they don't steal my friday evening away.

Mr. Wilkerson - please help a poor guy out of an ugly catch 22...!

See my predicament?
I have to know, within the next hour, if patch 02 arrives before 8 o'clock CET today.
Otherwise I'll be making my inlaw-decision completely in the dark - with potentially tragic consequences...


Dream on

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 10:59:34 AM   
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As long as I get the patch today before 20.00 CET.


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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 11:05:01 AM   
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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 11:57:37 AM   
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On the other hand, if patch 02 doesn't arrive today, I'd much rather get the inlaws over with tonight, so they don't steal my friday evening away.

See my predicament?

Mr. Wilkerson - please help a poor guy out of an ugly catch 22...!



Do the inlaws TONIGHT! The patch probably won't be out today anyway..., and if it is, you'll have something to look forward to to help you get through the "boring social function". Never put off something awful..., it just gets worse with the anticipation....

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 12:24:21 PM   
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Well okay.
Inlaws tonight, then.
And when I wake up tomorrow morning (0700, CET...!) the patch will be here.
I guess I can live with that.


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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 12:56:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think everybody paid for WITP AE ... the former release is bugged, then, obviosly I think we must be updated about Patch 2 final release progress ? must we not ?. Of course, I think this is a right from the customers and a must from developers.
the only one that requested is an update about progress, no more.
I wait nobody will be disturbed by my comments, it´s no my will...only requesting info.
Best of wishes
Ramón



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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 1:13:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just wish you would understand that we're not going to tell you when it'll be out, because we're NOT FINISHED WITH IT YET. It's not that difficult a concept.

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 2:01:11 PM   
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I just wish you would understand that we're not going to tell you when it'll be out, because we're NOT FINISHED WITH IT YET. It's not that difficult a concept.

AE Team 1 - AE users 0
Capitals not needed, IMHO... It´s a easy concept, really, but it is not an answer for the request. I think that many users only want to know an update about progress.. it´s not needed a exact date (i think everybody understand that it would be very dificult and unpredecible), but the progress is "near to end, only a week or so", or "the patch will be ready for christmas time".. That´s could be enough, IMHO, of course....



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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 2:46:42 PM   
Mike Solli


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The fog is clearing - I see a patch 02 a commin' !!!


Take your time


What?! I want to start my PBEM.

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 2:52:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please do not release the patch...I don't want to spend another 4+ hrs for first allied turn in new campaign against AI!

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:02:51 PM   
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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:04:08 PM   
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I just wish you would understand that we're not going to tell you when it'll be out, because we're NOT FINISHED WITH IT YET. It's not that difficult a concept.

AE Team 1 - AE users 0
Capitals not needed, IMHO... It´s a easy concept, really, but it is not an answer for the request. I think that many users only want to know an update about progress.. it´s not needed a exact date (i think everybody understand that it would be very dificult and unpredecible), but the progress is "near to end, only a week or so", or "the patch will be ready for christmas time".. That´s could be enough, IMHO, of course....




Hi Ramon,

I side with Terminus on this. Every time the developers release anything related to time, some of us calculate when the "promise" is to be fulfilled. Then we light up the forum with "Are we there yet?" posts. (I recognize many of those posts are just good fun, but some are serious.)

I appreciate the updates that tell us WHAT is being done. I understand the developers are reluctant to make any mention of WHEN.

...and I join you in the chorus of praise for the great work that has been done and the stunning support for this game. Wow!


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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:04:53 PM   
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4+ hours? You mean 4+ days don't you!!!


That is about how long it takes me to set up the Jap. first turn

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:13:19 PM   
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4+ hours? You mean 4+ days don't you!!!


Nope, I can do Allied turn for Dec 8 scenario in about 4-5 hours now. But of course, I have also played WitP since 2004, exclusively on Allied side.

I am not saying my orders are good ones, though!

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:14:35 PM   
Mike Solli


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4+ hours? You mean 4+ days don't you!!!


That is about how long it takes me to set up the Jap. first turn


Geez, it took me about 4 weeks.

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:18:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hope they release it by December 7th!

Waiting to start a GC on the anniversary and then play along parallel with historical timeline.

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:21:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fletcher


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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I just wish you would understand that we're not going to tell you when it'll be out, because we're NOT FINISHED WITH IT YET. It's not that difficult a concept.

AE Team 1 - AE users 0
Capitals not needed, IMHO... It´s a easy concept, really, but it is not an answer for the request. I think that many users only want to know an update about progress.. it´s not needed a exact date (i think everybody understand that it would be very dificult and unpredecible), but the progress is "near to end, only a week or so", or "the patch will be ready for christmas time".. That´s could be enough, IMHO, of course....




Hi Ramon,

I side with Terminus on this. Every time the developers release anything related to time, some of us calculate when the "promise" is to be fulfilled. Then we light up the forum with "Are we there yet?" posts. (I recognize many of those posts are just good fun, but some are serious.)

I appreciate the updates that tell us WHAT is being done. I understand the developers are reluctant to make any mention of WHEN.

...and I join you in the chorus of praise for the great work that has been done and the stunning support for this game. Wow!



Hello OldGuar1970
Thanks for the answer and all right ..
Best wishes.
Ramon

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 3:52:05 PM   
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4+ hours? You mean 4+ days don't you!!!


That is about how long it takes me to set up the Jap. first turn


Geez, it took me about 4 weeks.


It took me four weeks to figure things out, then four days to do it

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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 4:12:16 PM   
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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 4:46:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's one hell of a turn mike, hopefully one day when the devs allow us to change password, I hope you'll release your first turn as an exemplar of maybe what to do, but then again seeing as you haven't started yet this might be a bit premature.

Anyway wouldn't it be nice if there were a repository of first turns from some of the more experienced to help the hump.

Cheers
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RE: Patch 01 ... Patch 02 - 12/3/2009 5:13:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Definitely a bit premature.  Years ago, when I was getting a handle on WitP, Mogami sent me one of his first turns.  I never really was able to get a good handle on it.  I think it would be same case here.  Just too much info to wrap one's brain around.  I take it in small chunks and let it go when I'm done.  I try not to make changes because there are times when I look back and can't for the life of me figure out why I did a certain thing.  All by itself, one thing doesn't make sense, but it does when looked at in conjunction with the rest of that facet.  The problem is that the rest of that particular event may include a dozen or more TFs scattered around the map.  Try finding them all.

Also, remember that I'm not at all experienced with AE.  I bought it on day 1 and have yet to send a turn in anger.

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