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CVs and CVEs? - 6/27/2002 2:09:14 AM

tobamore

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I apologise for my stupidity, but I am only an occasional admiral.:o

I was wondering, what is the difference between a CV and a CVE and does a CVE have any benefits over a CV in UV and in real life?

MTIA,

Toby

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Re: CVs and CVEs? - 6/27/2002 2:25:14 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by tobamore
[B]I apologise for my stupidity, but I am only an occasional admiral.:o

I was wondering, what is the difference between a CV and a CVE and does a CVE have any benefits over a CV in UV and in real life?

MTIA,

Toby [/B][/QUOTE]

Hi. CV is the US (or NATO now) designation for a Fleet carrier. I.E. a big fast one able to operate with the Fleet. Depending whose navy, in WWII they carried 40-90 a/c, and did 30 odd kts. Your main strike arm.
CVE is the designation for an escort carrier. Not now built, in WWII they were usually merchant ship hulls converted whilst building. They were thus much slower (18 kts approx), fragile, and carried say 10-18 a/c. They were built for ASW escort in the Atlantic, and CAP/close air support for landings in the Pacific. They also acted as a/c ferries, and replenished the Fleet carriers (Allied)a/c late in the war when they used to spend much longer on station (weeks).
You will also meet CVL sometime, which is a light carrier - cheaper smaller version on a CV, but a proper warship rather than CVE type.

The Japanese designations are a little less clear cut than this, but this is the basics.

Your final point - (advantages of CVE over CV) - none, worse in every way (except cheaper in VP when it sinks). Use CVE when you don't want to tie down a CV, or it's really dangerous (bad idea!). They will not last long against an enemy CV. Hope this helps.

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- 6/27/2002 4:14:57 AM

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[QUOTE]Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

Very much so, thank you for your prompt and detailed reply.:)

I'd like to ask you one further question, I have seen a couple of posts refering to WiTP (I assume war in the Pacific) is this an up and coming game in the same style as UV, or an already existing game which I have missed?

Thank you in advance,

Toby.

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- 6/27/2002 4:35:17 AM

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WitP is in development.

Here's the link:
http://www.matrixgames.com/Games/WarInThePacific/features.asp

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- 6/27/2002 7:10:21 AM

tobamore

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Thank you again, loks interesting...:)

Toby

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Re: Re: CVs and CVEs? - 7/1/2002 12:21:06 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HMSWarspite
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CVE is the designation for an escort carrier. Not now built, in WWII they were usually merchant ship hulls converted whilst building. They were thus much slower (18 kts approx), fragile, and carried say 10-18 a/c. [/B][/QUOTE]

Doesn't 'CVE' actually stand for 'Combustible, Vulnerable, Expendable'? :D

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- 7/1/2002 1:50:34 PM

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[QUOTE]Doesn't 'CVE' actually stand for 'Combustible, Vulnerable, Expendable'?[/QUOTE] Especially if you're the one standing on it with an attack inbound. --Jeff

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