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AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/19/2009 10:39:48 PM

myros

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Noticed this 3 or 4 times now since patch 2, and 2 out of 3 turns tonight.

When going through the phases it just seems to skip the AM phase for the air turn, no info about not able to launch due to weather, no sighting reports .. nothing. It just starts right into the next phase.

I started using the start-up switch for -SingleCpuOrders with patch 2 so it may have something to do with that?

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/20/2009 3:48:56 AM

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Check the envent log and see if the AM Phase shows there.
If it does, then it ran.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/20/2009 8:40:45 AM

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I did notice this too. Didn't check combat reports, but for at least 2 days in a row I saw this. A very, very short AM air phase - no spotting, nothing.
Seems to have gone back to normal now.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/20/2009 10:47:11 AM

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Aye, thats the first thing I did was check the log. It lists nothing, the first entry for air anything is afternoon.
Today Im going to try and find a turn where it is repeatable (ie happens evey time I load the save) and then turn off the -SingleCpuOrders thing and see if it has any affect.

Not sure if it is even repeatable or if it is random, but will post a save if I can track it down.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/20/2009 1:12:16 PM

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Ok here ya go, ran this save 3 times and it skipped the AM air phase each time.
See what it does for you.

Im going to test it without my command line options to see if that makes a difference.
(\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -altFont -deepColor -cpu1 -SingleCpuOrders �multiaudio)

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/20/2009 1:18:28 PM

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Just ran the turn with no command line switches, still skipped the AM air phase.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/20/2009 9:30:27 PM

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In me there is no AM Air Phase too.
Receive the message: "AM Air Phase", then message "Aircraft landings", and starts PM Phase.

COMBAT EVENTS FOR 03/30/42

Combat Events:
NAVAL REACTION PHASE
Task Force 96 encounters enemy Task Force at 95 , 135
Surface Combat TF 96 withdrawing to Rabaul after combat
LOADING/UNLOADING TASK FORCES
Amphibious TF 12 unloading at Ruteng
TASK FORCE LOADING/UNLOADING COMPLETE
CALCULATING TASK FORCE PATHS
MINESWEEPING OPERATIONS
NAVAL MOVEMENT PHASE
Task Force 96 encounters enemy Task Force at 96 , 136
Surface Combat TF 96 withdrawing to Rabaul after combat
ADJUST SHIP FUEL
NIGHT AIR OPERATIONS PHASE
AIRCRAFT LANDING
SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL
SURFACE COMBAT CHECK
DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs
SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL
xAK Kotoku Maru sinks....
SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL
REPAIRING SHIPS
END 12 HOUR PULSE
DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs
CHECKING TF FUEL
TF'S RETURN TO PORT
Combat Events:
NAVAL REACTION PHASE
LOADING/UNLOADING TASK FORCES
TASK FORCE LOADING/UNLOADING COMPLETE
CALCULATING TASK FORCE PATHS
MINESWEEPING OPERATIONS
NAVAL MOVEMENT PHASE
ADJUST SHIP FUEL
AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : AM
AIRCRAFT LANDING
SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL
DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs
AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : PM
G4M1 Betty sighting report: Allied SS at 52,83 near Djemadja , Speed 12 , Moving Northwest
(...)

I have already about 4 rounds, mayby after instalin patch II Hot Fix ?!

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/21/2009 8:26:53 AM

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The AM ran, but the AI didn't have any valid flights to perform.

I'll have a closer look as to why it didn't think it needed to fly any missions.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/21/2009 9:56:21 AM

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Strange. Sometimes the group plane totals are zero before the AM phase
I 'll force the totals to be recalculated prior to running the air phase.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/21/2009 4:58:45 PM

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Any idea of a workaround for this? Probably no hotfix before the holidays huh?
4 out of my last 6 turns have skipped the AM phase, seems to be getting worse

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/21/2009 6:58:48 PM

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Still happening for me too - sporadic and randomly.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/21/2009 8:05:41 PM

Admiral Scott

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I hope Santa gives us another hotfix for Chistmas!

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/21/2009 9:05:18 PM

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Is this a purely AI issue or is it affecting PBEM games as well?

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/21/2009 11:35:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cantona2

Is this a purely AI issue or is it affecting PBEM games as well?

what he said.

Going to hold up patching just in case.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 1:14:36 AM

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Achk! AI turn is broken?
Just patched using the Hotfix.

Good thing I lost interest in playing agains AI these days.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 3:15:47 AM

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I can confirm. Just downloaded the hotfix and I see it skipping the AM air phase most of the time. Bummer.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 7:03:52 AM

Admiral Scott

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I'm bummed also.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 1:33:38 PM

Takeshi

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Is this happening in AI games only? Not PBEM or Head to Head?

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 3:36:59 PM

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Is it just the land based air as the KB just did a AM and PM strikes with effect

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 4:20:59 PM

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Its all aircraft, it just that it doesnt happen every turn, and for me it seemed to get really noticable once I hit 42. Im at march 42 and it happens about every other turn now, sometimes 2 in a row.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 6:46:47 PM

Oliver Heindorf

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same here, no AM flights.

strage, AE team fixes issues just to open new ones.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 6:53:03 PM

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I am not seeing it in either my AI games or my PBEM's I will ask one of the guys to take a look

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 6:54:05 PM

Admiral Scott

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Thanks Andy

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 7:14:52 PM

Oliver Heindorf

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Yes, Thank you Andy !

A save game file can be provided, if wanted.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 7:52:00 PM

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Dont thank me I cant fix it that requires others with more brains than I !!!

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 8:00:36 PM

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Version 1096a
Scen 1
Allied vs AI
Daily turns
No mods
Game Date 24 Dec 1941

It's probably not directly linked to the latest patch (1096a) because I don't see that despite the patch applied (game startet with Patch 1095).

EDIT: I checked ALL Combat Reports, only the latest is attached.

COMBAT EVENTS FOR 12/24/41

ADJUST TASK FORCE MISSIONS
CALCULATE RANGE TO ENEMY
CALCULATE AIR SUPERIORITY
ASSIGN COMPUTER CONTROLLED UNITS
IDLE TF'S RELOCATE
ROUTINE AIR OPERATIONS
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AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : AM
SS S-36 snooped by Japanese Float Fighter at 84,62 near Pescadores
TF 288 detected by Japanese Float Plane at 56,90 near Pontianak
TF 338 snooped by H6K4 Mavis at 52,92 near Billiton
PG Herald followed by H6K4 Mavis at 51,84 near Singapore
TF 376 snooped by Japanese Float Plane at 50,84 near Singapore
HDML 1063 has spotted a Japanese Level Bomber at 50,84
TF 288 shadowed by Japanese Float Plane at 56,90 near Pontianak
TF 18 followed by Japanese Float Plane at 56,104 near Soerabaja
TF 282 sighted by Japanese Float Plane at 56,104 near Soerabaja
TF 317 detected by Japanese Recon at 48,91 near Palembang
TF 55 observes Japanese Fighter Bomber at 82,95 near Talaud-eilanden
xAK Herstein observes Japanese Torpedo Bomber at 142,136 near Arorae
TF 209 detected by E8N2 Dave at 81,88 near Surigao
PG Herald has spotted a Japanese Fighter Bomber at 51,84
TF 264 sighted by E13A1 Jake at 145,133 near Howland Island
xAK Dardanus has spotted a Japanese Torpedo Bomber at 145,133
xAKL Chengtu snooped by Japanese Float Plane at 81,88 near Surigao
TF 261 sights Japanese Recon at 78,77 near Bataan
AS Canopus sighted by Japanese Aircraft at 83,92 near Davao
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 10 Japanese ships at 226,80 near San Diego, speed 11, Moving East
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 80,74 near San Fernando , Speed unknown
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 3 Japanese ships at 81,72 near Laoag , Speed unknown
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 80,74 near San Fernando , Speed unknown
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: Japanese SC at 75,71 near Iba , Speed 13 , Moving Northeast
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 9 Japanese ships at 74,71 near Iba , Speed 8 , Moving Northeast
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 80,74 near San Fernando , Speed unknown
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 4 Japanese ships at 74,71 near Iba , Speed 12 , Moving Northeast
OS2U-3 Kingfisher sighting report: 5 Japanese ships at 69,83 near Balabac , Speed 14 , Moving Northwest
PBY-5 Catalina sighting report: 4 Japanese ships at 87,92 near Babeldaob , Speed 14 , Moving Southwest
Hudson I sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 80,101 near Morotai , Speed unknown
Catalina I sighting report: Japanese xAK at 55,73 near Kompong Trach , Speed 10 , Moving Northwest
Catalina I sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 54,75 near Kota Bharu , Speed 7 , Moving West
SLDR Kinnimont, J.R. of No.21 Sqn RAAF bails out with WOUNDS but is RESCUED
AIRCRAFT LANDING
SHIP CREWS PERFORM DAMAGE CONTROL
xAK Herstein sinks....
CPT Taylor D. has been KILLED
DIVIDE CRIPPLED TFs
AIR OPERATIONS PHASE : PM
TF 317 followed by Japanese Float Plane at 48,91 near Palembang
TF 360 snooped by Japanese Aircraft at 115,160 near Noumea
PBY-5 Catalina reports object near surface at 185, 102 near Lahaina
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 5 Japanese ships at 72,76 near Taytay, speed 11, Moving Southwest
PBY-4 Catalina has spotted a Japanese PB at 80,74
:::::::: a To'su xPB class PB is reported HIT
PBY-4 Catalina sighting report: 4 Japanese ships at 74,63 near Kwangchowan , Speed 15 , Moving West
OS2U-3 Kingfisher sighting report: 4 Japanese ships at 69,83 near Balabac , Speed 16 , Moving Northwest
Catalina I sighting report: 2 Japanese ships at 106,123 near Kavieng , Speed 11 , Moving Northwest
Catalina I sighting report: 3 Japanese ships , Speed 12 , Moving Northeast
6 x Blenheim IV unable to locate target due to range or weather
AIRCRAFT LANDING
AIR TRANSPORT PHASE
AIRCRAFT LANDING
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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 8:38:33 PM

jhdeerslayer

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I have had a ton of action in the AM in my updated AI game as Allies. I so far have noticed no differences.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 8:49:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I am not seeing it in either my AI games or my PBEM's I will ask one of the guys to take a look

Actually this issue has already been found and fixed - though what is interesting/strange is that it looks like this is not at all a new issue - might have been there since day one.

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 9:01:55 PM

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Excelent, thanks for the update. I should be a beta-tester ... I seem to have a "lucky" ability to walk right into all the issues

Any chance we will see it as another 'hotfix'?

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RE: AI skipping Air AM phase? - 12/22/2009 9:02:31 PM

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