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Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 6:18:08 AM   
V22 Osprey


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Status: offline 		I know you guys don't like Steam, but the Steam holiday sale going on is absolutely insane!!!!

Rome Total war Gold - $2.50!!!

My friend just got Left4Dead 1 for $7.50!!!

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 9:21:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have bought around XXX€ worth of DD games from steam, gog and gamergate this holiday. I have like a ton of good games now.

Just guessing but this sale could be due to he bad year. Companies are squeezing out last dollars before the year changes and they need the money desperately.


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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 11:12:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		True there are some very low prices, but most of the stuff that's low is either substandard or very old hat...not really my cup of tea...I generally don't like going back...especialy if the games are really old...which some of them are.

Left 4 Dead for $7.50 is a good bargain though...shame I have it :-)

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 3:15:44 PM   
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I have bought around XXX€ worth of DD games from steam, gog and gamergate this holiday. I have like a ton of good games now.

Just guessing but this sale could be due to he bad year. Companies are squeezing out last dollars before the year changes and they need the money desperately.


I believe they had a similar sale last year. I picked up Zombie Driver.


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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 4:41:33 PM   
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True there are some very low prices, but most of the stuff that's low is either substandard or very old hat...not really my cup of tea...I generally don't like going back...especialy if the games are really old...which some of them are.

Left 4 Dead for $7.50 is a good bargain though...shame I have it :-)



Yea, but alot of those $50 games are now down 25% to 50% off.Which is good for me as I never pay $50 or more unless it's a wargame.

Oh, and you can't beat Civilization IV Complete edition for $13.60!!!(To bad it's is a one day only sale, and it's going to end in like 15 minutes)

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 5:49:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yesterday when I saw CIV4 Complete for $13, I finally caved and joined Steam...Its back to $26 today

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 8:23:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've grabbed a bunch of games on steam that I have had my eye on for a bit, and dirt cheap too. I spent the money there rather than here due to complete inability to get a question answered here over the holidays. I like many of the Indie games. I figured buy them now at %50-%80 off, and gradually go through them next year one at a time.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 8:46:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Grabbed, Left 4 Dead 2 Xmas Eve for 33.. it's up to 37 now...
that's an awesome price on CIV 4... Full Crysis (Original and Expansion Pack) are 14 bucks right now, if you have the system that can run it!

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 12/31/2009 10:36:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've snagged a few. Sniper Elite ($1.99), Rainbow 6 Vegas ($9.99), R6 Vegas 2 ($4.99). I'm waiting to see if Tropico 3 or the GOTY edition of Fallout 3 get a big one day super sale, otherwise I'll grab at least Tropico 3 on the final day (Jan 3rd). Oh, and I'll likely grab AI War as well.

Add that to King's Bounty : Armored Princess and Men of War during the GG run up to Christmas sale and some GOG purchases and I got me some games to play!

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/1/2010 1:30:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I must say I procrastinated and bought a few things on Steam these past few days. Left4dead as I didn't rush out and buy it when it was new. X3:Terran Conflict, Tropico III, the full compliation of Everquest for $4.99 it's like 15 expansions all in one package. Overlord for $2.99. Everything combined didn't really add up to one brand new game retail. Bought some things on Direct2Drive as well.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/1/2010 4:48:33 AM   
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I know you guys don't like Steam.



I love steam. You can get good deals on games,...especially game packs. You can always download and play the games through steam, so no finding order #'s or going to support to redownload a title you have bought. All the games are updated to play on modern OS's.......... all the games are automatically updated. You DO NOT have to be online to play your steam games.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/1/2010 7:08:53 AM   
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I know you guys don't like Steam,


Steam can suck my balls.

Whoring yourself out to them doesn't help my opinion of you.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/1/2010 3:02:05 PM   
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Steam can suck my balls.

Whoring yourself out to them doesn't help my opinion of you.


I hope he doesn't kill himself now, NK...

Steam is OK, I suppose. Not a huge fan of it, but the couple of games I have that came from it work correctly. Except when my extremely reliable internet goes down and I would like to play one. You're starting to see that with a buttload of games now though, so I suppose it's the new fad.


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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/1/2010 9:49:32 PM   
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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/1/2010 11:44:54 PM   
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Steam is OK, I suppose. Not a huge fan of it, but the couple of games I have that came from it work correctly. Except when my extremely reliable internet goes down and I would like to play one. You're starting to see that with a buttload of games now though, so I suppose it's the new fad.



You have to be online to play their games?

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/1/2010 11:51:42 PM   
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Steam is OK, I suppose. Not a huge fan of it, but the couple of games I have that came from it work correctly. Except when my extremely reliable internet goes down and I would like to play one. You're starting to see that with a buttload of games now though, so I suppose it's the new fad.




We're seeing this nonsense become the norm because people will put up with it. Some of the dupes are such a puppet mouthpiece, they'll even defend this kind of DRM.


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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 1:25:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		How does Steam work? According to their website, after you pay for a game you may then download and then play it. Do you have to connect up to the Steam server and authenticate your license before you play it each time, like Rise of Flight? 

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 1:39:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: V22 Osprey
Oh, and you can't beat Civilization IV Complete edition for $13.60!!!(To bad it's is a one day only sale, and it's going to end in like 15 minutes)

Well I grabbed Civ 4 Complete for a mere €5 retail, thus a non-Steam version. That shows how big monopolist Steam still is to dictate such prices as a digital outlet and to advertise them as special offers. Luckily there were plenty of other good deals there, like Orange Box for 50% or some old Lucasarts adventures that were a steal.

I even almost went for buying HoI3 when it was 75% off, but I've regained sanity just in time not to do it. I've read few examples of how difficult it is to mod Steam versions of certain games, and I'd rather buy it full price from GG, when they finally make it playable of course. I use Steam only for Valve games, Indie games and some old games and it works for me so far.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 9:25:41 PM   
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How does Steam work? According to their website, after you pay for a game you may then download and then play it. Do you have to connect up to the Steam server and authenticate your license before you play it each time, like Rise of Flight? 


Actually...yeah, I suppose it does work pretty similarly to Rise of Flight.

You buy your game. Then you get it downloading and installing (Steam does that). After that, whenever you run that game, it has to run through Steam.

There are exceptions to the rule with some games that don't have to, but which ones seem to be a confusing mess with nobody really knowing for certain.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 9:53:27 PM   
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How does Steam work? According to their website, after you pay for a game you may then download and then play it. Do you have to connect up to the Steam server and authenticate your license before you play it each time, like Rise of Flight? 


Actually...yeah, I suppose it does work pretty similarly to Rise of Flight.

You buy your game. Then you get it downloading and installing (Steam does that). After that, whenever you run that game, it has to run through Steam.

There are exceptions to the rule with some games that don't have to, but which ones seem to be a confusing mess with nobody really knowing for certain.


you dont need to be online whenever you want to play the game. If the games were already installed on your machine, you can start steam offline and play the game. You will need internet connection to update the game though.

and remember, with steam, you can install your can to infinite number of machines as they are licenced to your account and not to a single computer.

but I heard that steam does not have any legal obligation to provide you the game files after 4 or so years of your purchase. Though this can only be a rumour...

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 10:01:40 PM   
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How does Steam work? According to their website, after you pay for a game you may then download and then play it. Do you have to connect up to the Steam server and authenticate your license before you play it each time, like Rise of Flight? 


Actually...yeah, I suppose it does work pretty similarly to Rise of Flight.

You buy your game. Then you get it downloading and installing (Steam does that). After that, whenever you run that game, it has to run through Steam.

There are exceptions to the rule with some games that don't have to, but which ones seem to be a confusing mess with nobody really knowing for certain.


Well, IIRC all games need to run through Steam, and the exceptions are some games that are allowed to run in offline mode (but which games is not clear), yet Steam is always required. Under this link you'll find a review of Steam as a service: http://bansama.com/b/digital-distribution/the-digital-distribution-dilemma-%E2%80%93-a-review-of-steam/

Note that this review was written by a person living outside US, so Americans will probably not notice the regional restrictions he's complaining about, but other than that everything holds for all users around the world.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 10:04:51 PM   
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and remember, with steam, you can install your can to infinite number of machines as they are licenced to your account and not to a single computer.



Can you really install the same game on multiple machines at the same moment?

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 10:17:36 PM   
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I even almost went for buying HoI3 when it was 75% off, but I've regained sanity just in time not to do it. I've read few examples of how difficult it is to mod Steam versions of certain games, and I'd rather buy it full price from GG, when they finally make it playable of course. I use Steam only for Valve games, Indie games and some old games and it works for me so far.


I think its just a false rumour that steam games cant be modded. I have had no problems modding them so far.


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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 10:25:15 PM   
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and remember, with steam, you can install your can to infinite number of machines as they are licenced to your account and not to a single computer.



Can you really install the same game on multiple machines at the same moment?


yes, and it is totally legal. you just cannot login from two machines at the same time. I currently have "football manager 10" in both my desktop and notebook.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 10:42:33 PM   
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I even almost went for buying HoI3 when it was 75% off, but I've regained sanity just in time not to do it. I've read few examples of how difficult it is to mod Steam versions of certain games, and I'd rather buy it full price from GG, when they finally make it playable of course. I use Steam only for Valve games, Indie games and some old games and it works for me so far.


I think its just a false rumour that steam games cant be modded. I have had no problems modding them so far.



I sure hope it's a false rumour.. As I've written above I've only read about it, not tested it myself. I will try to do so in near future, maybe could start with trying out some Half-life based games I own, but then again each game is a different story.

By the way, have you ever tried modding any Paradox game with steam? I am very curious about that.

Also, one of the concerns I've read about was that Steam is automatically updating games, so you always download the most up-to-date version. Although it's a generally good thing, it sometimes can make modding or using 3rd party patches impossible, as they often tend to lose compatibility with newer versions of base game. Do you have any experience with situation like this?

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 10:43:47 PM   
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and remember, with steam, you can install your can to infinite number of machines as they are licenced to your account and not to a single computer.



Can you really install the same game on multiple machines at the same moment?


yes, and it is totally legal. you just cannot login from two machines at the same time. I currently have "football manager 10" in both my desktop and notebook.


Good news, thanks! :)

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 10:45:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		and a note, I bought hoi2 from steam and installed the TRP mod with no problem.

my only concern about steam is that, in most cases, it is not the cheapest option for purchase.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/2/2010 11:55:47 PM   
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and a note, I bought hoi2 from steam and installed the TRP mod with no problem.

my only concern about steam is that, in most cases, it is not the cheapest option for purchase.


I hope their pricing strategy is gonna change. For us Europeans the most annoying is their 1$=1€ policy. And although Steam owns 70% of the market (Stardock's estimates from last year), I hope that they've finally felt the aggressive competition behind their backs. Last year was full of crazy sales at Gamersgate, D2D, Impulse or Good Old Games, but I think that in the end Steam managed to bring the craziest.

And thanks for the confirmation that modding hoi2 is possible.

Cheers!

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/3/2010 12:22:16 AM   
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Also, one of the concerns I've read about was that Steam is automatically updating games, so you always download the most up-to-date version. Although it's a generally good thing, it sometimes can make modding or using 3rd party patches impossible, as they often tend to lose compatibility with newer versions of base game. Do you have any experience with situation like this?

I had that problem once with impulse/sins of solar empire. But you can get around that by waiting for new versions of the mods or taking backups and refusing updates for games that are modded. You shouldnt update those games that are modded anyways.

As for paradox games steam's HoI3 works perfectly with mods atleast according to the forums.

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RE: Insane Steam Holiday Sale - 1/3/2010 12:23:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Steam is not that bad.Yes, you need to be online to activate the game, though I don't see the problem with this especially if you get the game from the steam store you are going to be online anyway.

Also, you don't have to be online to play them, just run steam in offline mode.Haven't had any problems playing steam games where there is no internet.

NefariousKoel, I couldn't give a damn of your opinion of me.

Agreed, lot of games are a bit overpriced, especially Empire:Total War, with it costing $40 now at retail stores but it's still $50 on steam.

However, I only have steam for my Valve games.Anything else that I can get in stores I get, not steam.

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