Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

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ORIGINAL: E

Point, Set and Match.

Well it is not of course.

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ORIGINAL: E

Greybriar takes the trophy home to display! Or he can store it away and display it sometime in the future... without asking anyone's permission!

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

Yes! Because it is a small timers trophy for lack of foresight and inability to adjust. The same trophy that extinct species and the US Auto industry have on their mantles.

Big timer trophies like The FIFA World Cup Trophy cannot be won outright. They belong to a part of a larger organization and are given back unless the trophy is won again. He doesn't even technically own the money in his pockets.

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ORIGINAL: E

Greybriar takes the trophy home to display! Or he can store it away and display it sometime in the future... without asking anyone's permission!

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ORIGINAL: GoodGuy

Big timer trophies like The FIFA World Cup Trophy cannot be won outright. They belong to a part of a larger organization and are given back unless the trophy is won again. He doesn't even technically own the money in his pockets.

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ORIGINAL: LarryP

Have you thought about going into politics?

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

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ORIGINAL: LarryP

Have you thought about going into politics?

Funny you should mention that. I have started accepting funds for a non-profit (read non-taxable) investigative committee which will investigate the plausibility for a presidential run.

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

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ORIGINAL: GoodGuy

Big timer trophies like The FIFA World Cup Trophy cannot be won outright. They belong to a part of a larger organization and are given back unless the trophy is won again. He doesn't even technically own the money in his pockets.

Yes, he paid 5-10 times more for the allusion this provides. I bet he is not installing his 5 1/4" floppy games.

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ORIGINAL: LarryP

Have you thought about going into politics?

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ORIGINAL: GoodGuy

Reminds me of politicians, who (after they have lost an election) would still babble for hours just to come to the conclusion that the loss was in fact a win.

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ORIGINAL: LarryP

That should help the unemployment rate a bit. More so than the... never mind. Getting political again, like in the Norad Santa thread.

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

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ORIGINAL: GoodGuy

Reminds me of politicians, who (after they have lost an election) would still babble for hours just to come to the conclusion that the loss was in fact a win.

I really do not see why anyone has to be a winner or loser in this. I understand some people are afraid of change and others are afraid of technology. Others are unable to adapt to change or understand that hey themselves have already changed. I cannot say that a person who denies themselves joy because of an imaginary line in the sand is a loser or has lost but I think that people who are willing to try new things do benefit more than people who do not. What a boring world it would be if everything was the same.

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ORIGINAL: LarryP

You truly should consider politics.

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ORIGINAL: GoodGuy


Well, Larry, you might want to rethink your suggestion:

If he'd join politics, I could see (his) fellow citizens having to deal with new "technologies", and with him babbling about his "experiences" with the new tech, even though his experiences were limited to signing the order and pushing the START button at the opening ceremony.
Then, 3 years after the new tech (plant) had been around, he'd boldly explain to the people in neighboring villages, that the claimed damages and pollutions would be negligible in fact, and that their dismissive attitude towards the new technology would be the concept of an extinct few.
Surely, he wouldn't make it through the next election.

I advise against joining politics.

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR
That can be said about any publisher/developer. Whether they sall via download or CD/DVD.

What about games made for DOS, or win95, or win98,....the good majority of them will not work on modern OS's. So your point about maybe someday not being able to play a game you bought on steam, well that applies to EVERY game, downloaded or bought in a store.

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ORIGINAL: LarryP
That should help the unemployment rate a bit. More so than the... never mind. Getting political again, like in the Norad Santa thread.

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ORIGINAL: LarryP

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

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ORIGINAL: LarryP

Have you thought about going into politics?

Funny you should mention that. I have started accepting funds for a non-profit (read non-taxable) investigative committee which will investigate the plausibility for a presidential run.

That should help the unemployment rate a bit.

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ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker

Well, I'll throw my 2 cents in...I absolutely hate/despise downloading full games over any of the services out there. I prefer hard copy. And no, I dont want to download and then burn it. I want the original. And yes, I have some steam crap cluttering my system. The biggest is Empire:Total War. Do I play it? No. I forgot to shut off the auto patching  and Steam patched it up to the point of it not working. Havent played it since.....Another problem(non-steam related) I had with direct downloads is when I bought Total Pro Football years ago as a DD. Wanted to play it a few weeks ago. Couldnt. Company out of business. Confirmation e-mail gone many many hard-drives and upgrades ago. But I dragged out my old copyof x-com:terror of the deep(3.5 disk), from another defunct company and viola..it worked..no drm, no idiotic internet "activation" or no internet access required.... If my broadband(thru TW) goes down I cant play about 5 or so games... Why bother? I was seriously thinking of utilizing Steam and purchasing 1 or 2 of its "sale" games over Christmas break... Oops, my phone line got cut by a truck doing some work on a tree. No phone or internet for 1 day.So no purchase which I believe is a good thing. I might not have been able to play my new purchases....... The most I can accept is the Matrix way. DD plus hard copy.

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ORIGINAL: Jim_H

What absolute tosh. No offense Scott_WAR, but how can an old game that came on CD that will still run happily in DOSBox or VMWare or even natively with some tweaks be compared to a game that will never work again if Steam goes the way of the Dodo? The only reason these old games won't run is if you don't have the tech knowledge or old OS on which to run them. It's got nowt to do with DRM or online activation requirements. Apples and oranges. Try again

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

There is a lot of fear in this thread.

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

I typed up a response to your post Jim, but decided against it,.......for the simple reason that there are those who like steam, and there are those who dont. It doesnt appear any amount of discussion is going to change any opinions, but, and I feel this is why those that dislike steam are so vehement about it,............ is that steam isnt going anywhere. As most of the steam haters here have even admitted, the majority of the industry is headed in that direction, and steams success is probably going to mean more and more go to the same or a similiar model.

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ORIGINAL: Jim_H

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ORIGINAL: LarryP
That should help the unemployment rate a bit. More so than the... never mind. Getting political again, like in the Norad Santa thread.

Yeah, poor old Santa still hasn't recovered from that! I blame JudgeDredd for that one. He came in, passed the loaded gun around and then ran away laughing while carnage ensued lol! Bloody typical. In fact, that tactic reminds me of a dear departed ex-member of this family who was the absolute master. Can anyone guess the name I'm thinking of? The old timers here will know immediately, of course. He has gone down in the legendary annals of Matrix history. No prizes for guessing, but I'm not going to name that name as I don't want to upset Erik or put JD's blood pressure up hehe

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ORIGINAL: Emobama
There are a few more reasons. If you don't have needed hardware, media goes bad, you lose the media, dog ate my CD.

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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro
Being a wee bit harsh there on JD.

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ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro
The ex pat lives-he is here with us-his name is Legion-as he is many- (a modest exaggeration). Of course , he is not the only one playing that game.

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

Yes, I agree, but that isnt always a bad thing. Its those that would like us to go blindly to the slaughterhouse that would have us feel we have nothing to fear.

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ORIGINAL: Jim_H

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ORIGINAL: LarryP
That should help the unemployment rate a bit. More so than the... never mind. Getting political again, like in the Norad Santa thread.

Yeah, poor old Santa still hasn't recovered from that! I blame JudgeDredd for that one. He came in, passed the loaded gun around and then ran away laughing while carnage ensued lol! Bloody typical. In fact, that tactic reminds me of a dear departed ex-member of this family who was the absolute master. Can anyone guess the name I'm thinking of? The old timers here will know immediately, of course. He has gone down in the legendary annals of Matrix history. No prizes for guessing, but I'm not going to name that name as I don't want to upset Erik or put JD's blood pressure up hehe

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ORIGINAL: Jim_H

<sigh>Ok, Emobama. I give up. You manage to split hairs to the nth degree and pick up on the smallest discrepancy in someone's post. Well spotted that I didn't include every single reason in the world for not being able to install a game. Brilliant. You actually missed fire, flood and earthquakes!

You are so busy trying to find chinks and the tiniest fault with what people say that you don't actually grasp the point they are making. Oh well.

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ORIGINAL: Emobama

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ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker

Well, I'll throw my 2 cents in...I absolutely hate/despise downloading full games over any of the services out there. I prefer hard copy. And no, I dont want to download and then burn it. I want the original. And yes, I have some steam crap cluttering my system. The biggest is Empire:Total War. Do I play it? No. I forgot to shut off the auto patching  and Steam patched it up to the point of it not working. Havent played it since.....Another problem(non-steam related) I had with direct downloads is when I bought Total Pro Football years ago as a DD. Wanted to play it a few weeks ago. Couldnt. Company out of business. Confirmation e-mail gone many many hard-drives and upgrades ago. But I dragged out my old copyof x-com:terror of the deep(3.5 disk), from another defunct company and viola..it worked..no drm, no idiotic internet "activation" or no internet access required.... If my broadband(thru TW) goes down I cant play about 5 or so games... Why bother? I was seriously thinking of utilizing Steam and purchasing 1 or 2 of its "sale" games over Christmas break... Oops, my phone line got cut by a truck doing some work on a tree. No phone or internet for 1 day.So no purchase which I believe is a good thing. I might not have been able to play my new purchases....... The most I can accept is the Matrix way. DD plus hard copy.

Clearly you were willing to purchase through Steam yet were unable to do so. This could have happened to any downloadable content or purchase from a brick and mortar store where weather could prevent you or employees from getting there.

But you did admit you were getting ready to make a purchase. May I ask why? With all of the problems you outline why would you even consider a purchase?

There is a lot of fear in this thread.