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Battleship slugfest: Yamato & Hyuga v. Royal Sovereign ... - 2/5/2010 7:17:48 PM   
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Japanese AI sent a TF to bombard Port Moresby. I had a TF stationed off Moresby to defend the base. In the night battle, radar made the difference. The Allied TF detected the Japanese group with their radar beyond visual range and opened fire on surprised ships. The Japanese ships that survived were sunk the next day by aircraft.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 27, 42
Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 98,132, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 13, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
CL Kuma, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
DD Arare, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Wakaba
DD Asagiri, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Tsuga, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Karii, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Yanagi, Shell hits 1
TB Chidori, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Revenge, Shell hits 5
BB Royal Sovereign, Shell hits 23, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 3
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1
CL Leander, Shell hits 2
CL Achilles
CL Emerald
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 1
DD Whipple, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Encounter
DD Express, Shell hits 1
PG Charleston, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD La Triomphant

Reduced visibility due to Rain with 92% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 92% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 7,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign fires at BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards
BB Revenge fires at BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards
CA Pensacola fires at DD Yanagi at 7,000 yards
CL Emerald launches Torpedoes at CL Kuma at 7,000 yards
CL Emerald launches Torpedoes at DD Tsuga at 7,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign fires at DD Asagiri at 7,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign fires at DD Wakaba at 7,000 yards
DD Express launches Torpedoes at DD Tsuga at 7,000 yards
DD Whipple launches Torpedoes at DD Wakaba at 7,000 yards
DD Bulmer launches Torpedoes at DD Wakaba at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Royal Sovereign at 2,000 yards
BB Revenge engages BB Yamato at 2,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Emerald at 2,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Yanagi at 2,000 yards
DD Karii engages DD Whipple at 2,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CL Kuma at 2,000 yards
DD Whipple sunk by DD Asagiri at 2,000 yards
DD Karii sunk by DD La Triomphant at 2,000 yards
TB Chidori engages CL Emerald at 2,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PG Charleston at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Royal Sovereign at 4,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign engages BB Yamato at 4,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Kuma at 4,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Kuma at 4,000 yards
DD Tsuga engages DD Express at 4,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Achilles at 4,000 yards
DD La Triomphant engages DD Wakaba at 4,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Express at 4,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Express at 4,000 yards
DD Asagiri sunk by DD Encounter at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Revenge at 6,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Revenge at 6,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Cornwall at 6,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages DD Yanagi at 6,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Emerald at 6,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Achilles at 6,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Arare at 6,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages TB Chidori at 6,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Express at 6,000 yards
TB Chidori engages PG Charleston at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Revenge at 8,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Revenge at 8,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Kuma at 8,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Pensacola at 8,000 yards
CL Emerald engages CL Kuma at 8,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Leander at 8,000 yards
TB Chidori engages CL Leander at 8,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Wakaba at 8,000 yards
CL Kuma engages PG Charleston at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Royal Sovereign at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Revenge at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Kuma at 11,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Kuma at 11,000 yards
DD Tsuga engages DD La Triomphant at 11,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages CL Achilles at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Leander at 11,000 yards
DD La Triomphant engages TB Chidori at 11,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Bulmer at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Royal Sovereign at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Revenge at 12,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Pensacola at 12,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Kuma at 12,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Emerald at 12,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Wakaba at 12,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Leander at 12,000 yards
DD La Triomphant engages DD Tsuga at 12,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Express at 12,000 yards
DD Tsuga engages DD Encounter at 12,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Bulmer at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Royal Sovereign at 11,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign engages BB Yamato at 11,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CL Kuma at 11,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Kuma at 11,000 yards
CL Emerald engages CL Kuma at 11,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Wakaba at 11,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CL Leander at 11,000 yards
DD La Triomphant engages DD Tsuga at 11,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Arare at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages BB Royal Sovereign at 8,000 yards
BB Hyuga sunk by BB Revenge at 8,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Pensacola at 8,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Pensacola at 8,000 yards
DD Tsuga engages CL Emerald at 8,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
CL Leander engages CL Kuma at 8,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
DD Tsuga engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Tsuga engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Royal Sovereign at 10,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign engages CL Kuma at 10,000 yards
CL Kuma engages CA Cornwall at 10,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Tsuga at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Emerald at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Achilles at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Leander at 10,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Encounter at 10,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PG Charleston at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Royal Sovereign at 12,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Bulmer at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Pensacola at 12,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Wakaba at 12,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Express at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Leander at 12,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD La Triomphant at 12,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Wakaba at 12,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Arare at 12,000 yards
TB Chidori engages PG Charleston at 12,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign engages BB Yamato at 12,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign engages CL Kuma at 12,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Bulmer at 12,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Tsuga at 12,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Express at 12,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Arare at 12,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages TB Chidori at 12,000 yards
DD La Triomphant engages DD Arare at 12,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PG Charleston at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
BB Royal Sovereign engages BB Yamato at 11,000 yards
BB Revenge engages CL Kuma at 11,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Pensacola at 11,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Wakaba at 11,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD La Triomphant at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Leander at 11,000 yards
DD La Triomphant engages DD Yanagi at 11,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PG Charleston at 11,000 yards
Takayanagi, Gihachi orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Royal Sovereign at 8,000 yards
CL Kuma engages BB Revenge at 8,000 yards
DD Yanagi engages DD Express at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Pensacola at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Emerald at 8,000 yards
CL Achilles engages BB Yamato at 8,000 yards
CL Leander engages TB Chidori at 8,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD La Triomphant at 8,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Tsuga at 8,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Tsuga at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PG Charleston at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Royal Sovereign at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
DD Express engages DD Tsuga at 11,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Express at 11,000 yards
CL Achilles engages DD Arare at 11,000 yards
CL Leander engages TB Chidori at 11,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD La Triomphant at 11,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Yanagi at 11,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PG Charleston at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Royal Sovereign at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages BB Revenge at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CA Cornwall at 13,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Tsuga at 13,000 yards
DD Wakaba engages DD Bulmer at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Achilles at 13,000 yards
PG Charleston engages TB Chidori at 13,000 yards
DD La Triomphant engages DD Tsuga at 13,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Express at 13,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Encounter at 13,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Tsuga at 13,000 yards
BB Yamato engages PG Charleston at 13,000 yards
Task forces break off...

BB Hyuga is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on May 27, 1942
DD Arare is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on May 27, 1942
DD Shigure is reported to have been sunk near Finschhafen on May 27, 1942
DD Asagiri is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on May 27, 1942
DD Tsuga is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on May 27, 1942
DD Karii is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on May 27, 1942
DD Yanagi is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on May 27, 1942
TB Chidori is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on May 27, 1942
Loss of BB Royal Sovereign on May 27, 1942 is admitted
Loss of DD Whipple on May 27, 1942 is admitted
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RE: Battleship slugfest: Yamato & Hyuga v. Royal Sovere... - 2/5/2010 7:28:33 PM   
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Would've thought Yamato would blow them away on her own pretty much!

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RE: Battleship slugfest: Yamato & Hyuga v. Royal Sovere... - 2/5/2010 7:32:58 PM   
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That is pretty poor performance by the IJN. But not out of the realm of game possibility, alot of variables at work.

How did the 15in shells do on Yamato? Any penetration hits?

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RE: Battleship slugfest: Yamato & Hyuga v. Royal Sovere... - 2/5/2010 7:55:24 PM   
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im pretty sure the royal navy was much better than IJN in night battles,so...thats why i guess..

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RE: Battleship slugfest: Yamato & Hyuga v. Royal Sovere... - 2/5/2010 8:23:17 PM   
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quote:

Would've thought Yamato would blow them away on her own pretty much!


Unfortunately, she had a habit of picking the Charleston as a target. Probably couldn't depress her main guns far enough to hit the thing . . .

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RE: Battleship slugfest: Yamato & Hyuga v. Royal Sovere... - 2/5/2010 11:02:30 PM   
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That's surprising to me, because I have had night engagements off Lunga in which the battleship Yamato, virtually alone, handily defeated 3 US battleships and 1 UK battleship. Those battleships had radar, and it did hardly anything! The Yamato came out of it only being hit about 5 times, (none serious) while putting two allied battleships out of action for months.

Fear the Yamato!

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RE: Battleship slugfest: Yamato & Hyuga v. Royal Sovere... - 2/5/2010 11:28:13 PM   
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I was very lucky to have lost only one BB and one DD. All the Allied ships had crews with good night battle experience, having participated in several nighttime commerce raids and shore bombardments. Several ships in the TF had SS radar -- never underestimate the value of surprise!

I don't know if the game takes range into account when it figures penetration, but in reality it does make a big difference; given the close range of this night battle -- as little as 2000 yards -- I find it completely plausible that the British 15in guns would defeat the Yamato's armor, which they did. The Yamato took several penetrating hits that slowed her down enough for bombers to catch her the next day. Even though she took 30(!) bomb hits the next day -- none of which penetrated her armor -- the intelligence briefing credited her sinking to 15in shells.

The Royal Sovereign's destruction was credited to the Yamato's 46cm guns.

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