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RE: Name This!...(23) - 3/12/2010 2:04:45 PM

c_m_kwong

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MP-18s were made in Shanxi (Taiyuan) arsenal since early 1920s, widely distributed to Chinese warlord armies

From their insignia they were not KMT troops, and some of them wore Japanese hemlets
Wang Chingwei's troops dressed like exactly as the KMT troops, so they might not be the puppet troops from Nanjing.

I suspect they were from the smaller puppet armies from North China. Could be Manchukuo (the office looks like Japanese to me, and the sorry looking troopers look like Chinese).

Brady, can you tell us where did you find the pic? Really interested in those puppet armies

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RE: Name This!...(23) - 3/12/2010 2:12:16 PM

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I hope that guy up front has his safety on ... or he will shoot his eye out !

I was thinking the same thing.

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RE: Name This!...(23) - 3/12/2010 3:03:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: c_m_kwong

From their insignia they were not KMT troops, and some of them wore Japanese hemlets
Wang Chingwei's troops dressed like exactly as the KMT troops, so they might not be the puppet troops from Nanjing.

I suspect they were from the smaller puppet armies from North China. Could be Manchukuo (the office looks like Japanese to me, and the sorry looking troopers look like Chinese).

I must admit that I was baffled by the collar insignia. It does not quite look like the KMT insignia often used by Wang Chingwei's troops or Japanese insignia. I don�t think it looks like the insignia used by Manchukuon or Mongol puppet troops either. The strange thing about it is the diagonal band across it.

The location of the photo would determine the army that they were with. I suspect that they were with the so-called RGC Army in Central China.

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RE: Name This!...(23) - 3/12/2010 5:50:50 PM

c_m_kwong

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Me too, I have never seen insignia like that before.

And you are right, they dont look like Manchuko or Mongolian troops either...

Tried to search for more info, but couldnt find any similar pic

I suspect (only with 40% certainty) they were from the North China Security Force under Qi Xieyuan...because MP18 was a lot more common among northern warlord troops than the KMT forces. The German helmet could be explained, because there were some fighting between the central government's troops and the Japs in 1938 in North China.

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RE: Name This!...(23) - 3/12/2010 6:08:41 PM

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