Mynok
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The Jews have long memories. And yes, they were treated maybe even worse by the Soviets.
And then the Germans came. Tough draw for those poor folks. Little wonder there was a mass exodus throughout the 20th century.
Quite the contrary. My father's family came from very poor farmers in northwestern Ukraine. Quite a few of them rose pretty high in the hierarchy in soviet times. My mothers family came from artisans (tailors, shoemakers, etc) in southeastern Belarus. As I understand, while the Soviets did curtail their ability to openly make a profit, they were still able to do it (if not openly), and from what I understand, to them any loss in profits was made up for by the change in social status. So my family really had no bones to pick with the Reds. Probably the most discontented out of the bunch was my grandmother's older sister. She was a very active member of the Bund party (Jewish Bolsheviks, for lack of a better reference) which was amalgamated into the KPB /RF in the early 20s. She grew disillusioned and moved to Israel. But that was not until the mid 50s.
I've heard various people talk about antisemitism in the USSR. And it's certainly true to a good extent, especially starting in the late 50s-early 60s. But please keep in mind how large a percentage of the original Communists were Jews. Its when that bunch began to die off/retire other groups moved into the top ranks that antisemitism started. My father has always maintained that all the stuff about needing party membership to be promoted is garbage. He says that to be promoted beyond your level of competence you needed to be a party member and friends in high places. But to reach that level, simple merit was enough.
Interesting. So...um are you saying that Stalin's pogroms didn't happen?
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For a Keen's farmhouse cheddar or a good stilton , I'd be willing to do that!! 
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