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Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/25/2010 9:43:20 PM   
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Starting a new game.
700 star galaxy full of aliens, life, monsters and pirates. On restelss level. And slow tech rate, very slow.
Max starting empires.Impression:
I must click and choose level for any empire. that mean 19*many clicks. You cant choose simply basic for all.
Bleh clicks cliksc clikcs.
Sugestion:
Should be some option to choose for all empires. Less clicks.

I play as Cats on harsh planet with basic tech. All other empires start alike.

BTW Democracy has too many bonuses. Reduction in corruption????
You cant be serius.
I start as technocracy.
Sugestion:
Make goverments modable. Please.


BTW Any way to quick make screenshots?

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/25/2010 9:48:49 PM   
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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/25/2010 10:03:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah but I make all them start with b asic tech and on harsh planet add 38 more clicks.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/25/2010 10:37:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seems you avoided the auto-generation options, used maximum race and thus chose to make the most possible clicks for yourself - not a big deal anyway considering how many times we all click when actually playing the game. Noted as a suggestion though.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/25/2010 11:43:40 PM   
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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 12:30:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I must admit that I dont choose very wise.

Harsh system mean small and poor start system thats mean low cash. I start with lot a mining and rafinery bases in system near my but they are constantly raided by pirates. They attack attack and attack. Only things to do for me was paying them and waiting for my new ships to built.

When I builit some ships i was first broken(on start I have -8k income) with pirates flaying in my ships design. WTF?

Soon I stop paying them and my bases start making boom. My fleet trying to keep them away from my mine buisness but at any pirate ship I destroy 2 new appear.
I must admit my ass was owned.

Impressions:
I dont know whats going on. I get when pirates attack my stations but I donte get any info if they are reppeled or succesfull.

How to refit ships? I can upgrade design but I dont see anything change. Is  upgraded ship oly get new better components?

Sugestions: About designs. If there any way to see components as numbers not as single detail? I mean if I add 7 lasers to ship I can see them as
Laser*7
not as
Laser
Laser
Laser
etc.
This will be make design ship more clear.


BTW Can you implement some way to easly make a screenshots?
I dont see any hotkeys for that in manual.


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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 12:36:21 AM   
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How to refit ships? I can upgrade design but I dont see anything change. Is  upgraded ship oly get new better components?

Ships don't upgrade automatically when you create a new design. You have to assign a Retrofit mission from the right-click pop-up menu. Select the design to retrofit them to and they will travel to your nearest space port to be upgraded.

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Sugestions: About designs. If there any way to see components as numbers not as single detail? I mean if I add 7 lasers to ship I can see them as
Laser*7
not as
Laser
Laser
Laser
etc.
This will be make design ship more clear.

That's a good idea Sarissofoi - it's now on the list

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BTW Can you implement some way to easly make a screenshots?
I dont see any hotkeys for that in manual.

Hit the 0 (zero) key on your numeric keypad for a screenshot.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 12:36:57 AM   
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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 1:16:51 AM   
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I was smart and I save on first second.
Hurey for my genius.

Now I know few dirty tricks.

First I know why my ships stop at 95%. I lack some resources. Worse news. I dont see it on the map. Only one explorer ship and she is busy.

#1Dirty trick. I take abandon capital ship. Armed with powerfull torpedoss and big this ship kick some pirate ass. I dont pay them shoot few ships and they stop coming. Strange. Still my money sink. Dont know why.

!!Fonts. Especially red ones. It hurt my eyes. Also it make hard to read numbers.

BTW Is there any music in this game?
All that I hear is sounds effect. Music zero.




And what is that?????
My beloved Cats as RODENT??????
WTF? Seriusly?


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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 1:24:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sarissofoi
BTW Is there any music in this game?
All that I hear is sounds effect. Music zero.

Should be background music playing. Check that your music volume is turned up in game options (O key).

If still no music, please post a DxDiag report in this thread.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 2:54:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		As an aside, the music is awesome.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 2:59:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ha-Ha... Cats as rodents... I like that.
Dogs would never be listed as rodents.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 5:34:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		BTW... I like cats...I really do, there cool sometimes, yep...cats are all right, I guess.
Rodents... hehe


bet your getting kind of mad... huh

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 8:57:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK. I try again. And again my ass is handed to me.
I bulid to many bases and gone red. This was mistake to start with harsh planet. I mean I start with income on level 2k and my upkeep are at level 10k. Geuss what happend. I check and when you start on normal system my income start on level 30+k. Geuss figure why my ass is handed to me.

I wonder how AI is doing becoze they start in the same situation as me.
Ok start again.
I know that I must scrap some bases and troops and units to stabilize my budget.




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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 9:04:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Did Zenox get changed from Feline "Family" to Rodent "Family" since Feline only had one race and Rodent only had two races?
That would be reasonable if the race "Family" applies to diplomacy. A race can have more friendly diplomatic partners if it has some fellow race "Family" members.
It's unlikely that many more races added would be called Feline. Rodent seems like a broader term to apply to a variety of races. Cats can be considered a smarter and/or more predatory rodent. Life on Earth, if we go back enough in time, has mammals evolving from rodent like creature to the varities of mammals today.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 9:17:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wade1000 you're probably right. but as far as I know, cats like to kill rodents. so they should probably not be classify with them. It just doesn't sound right.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 9:25:21 AM   
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No music.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 9:43:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Awesome AAR... I'm looking forward to reading some more of this.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 10:12:20 AM   
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Wade1000 you're probably right. but as far as I know, cats like to kill rodents. so they should probably not be classify with them. It just doesn't sound right.

On Earth, each race "Family" of the game has predatory versions that like to kill others types in its "Family".
"Rodent" was the only viable "Family" option to change "Feline" to.

So now there are:
Amphibian: 3 races
Rodent: 3 races
Humanoid: 3 races
Ursidian: 3 races
Insectoid: 4 races
Reptilian: 4 races

Heh. Besides, other than the Zenox previously stated as "Feline", NOW no where in the original race portrait characteristic does it state that the Zenox are cats or cat-like.
Their portrait art can even be imagined as more intelligent and/or predatory rodents. For those that want cats then they can be imagined as alien cats that have evolved to coesist peacefully with (other) rodents. Perhaps their "cats"(rodents) had a different source of prey other than rodents on the planet that they evolved on.

I like cats. I like dogs. I also like squirrels. The Zenox can be squirrels in my imagination. The Zenox also can be dogs. They resemble some dogs, like Terriers. :) They even resemble wolves.
One Zenox empire can be cats and another be squirrels and another be wolf/dogs...in one game.

The Zenox can be imagined as several types of Earthly animals: cats, squirrels, or even wolf/dogs...or even more.
The Keterov also can be imagined as several types of Earthly animals: bears, dogs, or even cats,...or even more.

We should remember that all of the races are alien.

The Distant World developers are brilliant with these game design elements.
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-Upon more thought, maybe there needs to be another race "Family" to group mammilian races that do not seem appropriate for Rodent Family and Ursidian Family. Maybe call the Family...Therians!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theria

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 10:56:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wade stop copypaste here. Go and torture anyone else.


I have no idea how to refit ships. I mean I know but this doesnt work.

First I make my own frigate I name it Szybki Kot.
Really basic project.
I have starting frigate but I cant refit this "Start" Frigate to my own frigate.
Ok scraping 'start' ship and build my own.
Now I adwance in some techs and want to upgrade some components.
I push upgrade button but this give me a new design with new name.
WTF?
I try copy and edit my "Szybki Kot" design but this didnt work. I mean I did it but I can refit my frigates only to obsolete 'start' ship design.
WTF?

Also no music.


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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 12:26:47 PM   
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DXDiag.
No music.

Sarissofoi, have you ever had any music? Did it stop playing, or you've never heard any music?

What version of Windows Media Player do you have installed?

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 12:33:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nope any music ever.
Only sound effetcs.

BTW My empier is growing. Yeah that was hard times but thus my awesome skills and luck I pay my debt and start growing.


I meet some other civ and more pirates but this civs are weak. AI dont have good start(like me) and this hurt them more than me.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 1:12:04 PM   
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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 9:19:59 PM   
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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 10:31:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sarissofo; Its reading this AAR that made me realise why you think the game sucks.........

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 10:34:43 PM   
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Realy I like this game. It isnt that bad. I simply like complaining and bitching.
And many things can be done better.
So I start bitching becoze I like it. I will play this game and swear.
:).
Cheers.


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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/26/2010 10:42:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sarissofoi

Haha.
Realy I like this game. It isnt that bad. I simply like complaining and bitching.
And many things can be done better.
So I start bitching becoze I like it. I will play this game and swear.
:).
Cheers.



Well Im glad you say you like it really...and I apologise if I came on a little harsh.

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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/27/2010 12:04:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dont worry wodin. I am from internet. No offense planed no offense taken. In internet nothing can hurt me.

Ok. I waste about hour and half with my system and programs and music is here.
Cheers.
On the other hand my USB speakers stop working.
I dont know what happend I must ceck this crap on other PC.
This waste of time make me mad but there is worse.
I lost somewhere save from yesterday.
I am furius. Yes. Mostly on myself.
BTW I come back to my native language settings and geuss what. Game work.
Miracle and wonders.

But I lost my saves . Arghh. I must find some good word to describe this.
"Ja kurwa pierdole."
Ok. Sory for that.
I gonna start again and check designs and rest of the stuff.
But man I lost saves. Kurrrrrvuss magnuss!

Then I start again from new game. I think that meyby my other problems with retrofitting dissapir to.


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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/27/2010 2:21:56 AM   
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The music stopped playing for me when I used the editor.

Hi ASHBERY76

What version of Windows are you running? Which version of Windows Media Player do you have installed?

Thanks
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RE: Chaos Cats in space. First impressions. - 3/27/2010 2:35:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76
The music stopped playing for me when I used the editor.

Hi ASHBERY76

What version of Windows are you running? Which version of Windows Media Player do you have installed?

Thanks
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Vista64 and the latest version of mediaplayer.

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