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Alternate Alternations (II) - STILL NO KETZA, PLEASE - 3/26/2010 12:18:39 PM   
modrow

 

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You all keep participating in the alternations of many a PBEM game presented as AAR in these forums, e.g. my “On occasional occasions” thread describing some aspects of my ongoing game against Rattovolante.

Unfortunately, my opponent of that game has slowed down his turn turnover lately; seemingly mainly because of lots of work at work. As those of you who followed my ramblings previously will know, I am always short of time myself, but right now, I did feel there was a space left.

At that point of time, an alternate entered the scene:

I received a PM of a former foe of mine, Ketza, asking for the possibility of a new game. We played a game in WitP which was a lot of fun until he changed jobs and could not continue. So I told him about the situation and warned him that this would most likely be a slow 3 turn per week or so game, and he answered by sending a turn 1 in scenario 2, along with the house rule that only existing TFs may be moved and air unit’s orders may not be changed. So I picked up the gauntlet thrown into my face and am going to walk through the spanking I am about to receive like a man.

I decided to add to my woes relating to lack of time by starting another PBEM. The main reason for that is that I think that Ketza is likely to put a few of my pet hypotheses as to how this could/should be played as Japan to a test and the few turns done so far seem to confirm this assumption. As an example, I believe that deep thrusts into the Allied territory can and should be done as Japan due to virtually non-existing danger to SLOCs– in fact, an invasion of Kendari occurred in term 1 of this game. So let’s walk together through the alternations of this war, and whenever I come across something that is IMHO worth mentioning, I will share this with you (and maybe start some interesting discussion)

By now, we have already played a few turns - I'll try to get you up to present over the next few days.

Thanks for your interest

Hartwig


< Message edited by hartwig.modrow -- 6/5/2010 9:23:00 PM >
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Day 1 Combat report - 3/26/2010 12:52:14 PM   
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those of you who read one or more of my previous AARs will be aware that I don't like posting complete combat reports. I will try to stick to this rule in general, but will include a lot it this time, partly because Ketza is a staunch supporter of the Manila attack, which I think has been rarely discissed in other AARs.

When I ran the turn - as mentioned previously, we had agreed on a real "surprise attack", limited only by the rule that only one port was allowed to be KB's target, thus I only changed orders to existing TFs - I had the feeling of being in a real HQ post - I think his operations formed a rather complete picture. I will try to explain what I mean in a more detailed way in a later post.

So here are the parts of the combat report of day 1 I want to show:


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41
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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Kuantan , at 51,79

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 72



Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed on ground
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Airbase hits 31
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 205

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
G3M2 Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 4
P-40B Warhawk x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 2 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
P-35A: 2 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 199

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
G4M1 Betty x 54



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
SS Swordfish, Bomb hits 1
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Tarpon, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Pickerel, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 1
SS Shark, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Seawolf, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Spearfish, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Porpoise, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Permit, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 1


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Port hits 5

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 135

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
xAKL Princess of Negros
SS S-41, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
PG Asheville, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sailfish, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS Porpoise, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
PT Q-111, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Corregidor
xAP Neptuna, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AV Langley, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Rochambeau, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Pike, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
PG Tulsa, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Otus, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
PG Isabel, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Pillsbury, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Tarpon, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAP President Madison, Bomb hits 2
SS Swordfish, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Tantalus, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Saury, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS S-38, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
TK Mindanao, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AM Bittern, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Peary, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Pope, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Paz, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT-34, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Seal, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AM Whippoorwill, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
xAKL Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Capillo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PT-33, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AM Lark, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Shark, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Sagoland, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AM Tanager, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT Q-113, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AM Finch, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
PT-32, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Palawan, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Repair Shipyard hits 3
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 63
Port hits 10
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 2


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 27



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27

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Morning Air attack on Kota Bharu , at 51,75

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 70
Ki-27b Nate x 6
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 55

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 163


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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
SS S-40, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Stingray, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Si Kiang, Bomb hits 1



Port hits 1


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Morning Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 10
Ki-36 Ida x 27
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 24



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Hai Lee, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Bennevis, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Haraldsvang, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Yat Shing, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hinsang, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
xAKL Joan Moller, Bomb hits 2
xAK Nanning, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Munlock, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Ming Sang, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Fatshan, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
xAKL Halldor, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hanyang, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAKL Chengtu, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAKL Kanchow, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 16


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Morning Air attack on Kota Bharu , at 51,75


Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 31



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23


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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Indira, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hermelin, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Chaksang, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 1, on fire
HDML 1100, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Chilka, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singkawang at 56,88

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 5
B-339D x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
xAK Toho Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 70,106


Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Shinanogawa Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 7
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 9



Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 8
Blenheim IV x 6
Buffalo I x 10
Hudson I x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 8 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Hudson I: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 53,77

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14


Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 4 destroyed



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Naval bombardment of Kota Bharu at 51,75

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Atago
CA Takao
CL Jintsu
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio


Allied ground losses:
315 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 397
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Iba at 78,75

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
CL Kuma
CL Natori
DD Hatakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Harukaze
DD Asakaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki


Allied ground losses:
228 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Airbase hits 46
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 231
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 1

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Pre-Invasion action off Kendari

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAP Haruna Maru
CS Mizuho
CS Chitose
CM Itsukushima



Kendari Base Force firing at xAP Haruna Maru
xAP Haruna Maru firing at enemy troops
CS Mizuho firing at enemy troops
CS Chitose firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Kendari

TF 13 troops unloading over beach at Kendari, 70,106

Japanese ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Pre-Invasion action off Kuching
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Ayatosan Maru
PB Tatsumiya Maru
AK Sasako Maru

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



6" Mk V/VII Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAK Ayatosan Maru at 6,000 yards
PB Tatsumiya Maru fires to suppress enemy guns at 6,000 yards
6" Mk V/VII Gun Coastal Battery engaging xAK Ayatosan Maru at 6,000 yards
PB Tatsumiya Maru fires to suppress enemy guns at 6,000 yards
PB Tatsumiya Maru firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Kuching

TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 58,88

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Pre-Invasion action off Sambas

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
TB Otori
AK Tosan Maru

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



TB Otori firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Sambas

TF 92 troops unloading over beach at Sambas, 57,88

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Pre-Invasion action off Singkawang

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
CL Kashii
TB Kari
PB Sozan Maru
PB Eifuku Maru
xAP Miike Maru

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



CL Isuzu firing at West Borneo KNIL Battalion
CL Kashii firing at West Borneo KNIL Battalion
TB Kari firing at enemy troops
PB Sozan Maru firing at enemy troops
PB Eifuku Maru firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Singkawang

TF 94 troops unloading over beach at Singkawang, 56,88

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


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Amphibious Assault at Laoag

TF 96 troops unloading over beach at Laoag, 81,72


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Pre-Invasion action off Puerto Princesa

Japanese Ships
PB Eiko Maru
xAK Nojima Maru
AV Sagara Maru



PB Eiko Maru firing at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Puerto Princesa

TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Puerto Princesa, 73,83

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


As mentioned above, I will comment a bit in the next post

Thanks for your interest

Hartwig

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Some general thoughts re. Manila attack... - 3/30/2010 5:56:32 AM   
modrow

 

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Finally, I find some time to provide some of the promised comments (waiting for turns to come in):

Let’s start with looking at the Manila attack variant in general. Without having looked at the Japanese OOB (which I did not), I believe it does the following things:

a) it takes the sub fleet based at Manila out of the game. It also leads to the loss of a number of transports, of course, but as options for moving assets out of the PI are limited anyway, I personally don’t think this is too relevant. The support ships one may lose hurt a bit more, but they are compensated for by the ones that remain untouched at pearl. The asset I miss most sorely are the subs, which even when assuming mostly dud torpedo attack takes out a number of “eyes” I like to have.

b) it may allow for a different distribution of the air strikes, including a more thorough suppression of Manila and Clark, possibly also freeing a Daitai or two for “other work”. The damage to port and airfields I received at Manila is significantly higher, the damage to Clark a bit higher than without that variant, thus fort building activities are delayed at both places. I believe that you should try to reach level 4 forts, which is difficult in the time that is usually available before the onslaught begins anyway.

c) one of the underestimated advantages I think it provides the Japan player with is also that it puts KB much more in the center of the map than the Pearl variant. Consequently, while not being used and out of sight it adds to the risk of Allied operations in more of the relevant (and potentially in the more relevant) parts of the map, while it can move in relatively quickly if it is needed to break any resistance. He can trade that advantage against a massive, continuous intervention of KB at a given point of interest, but I actually don’t think that is a good deal unless a definite advantage can be gained. I am not sure that this is the case for most of the applications I see.

Conversely, evidently the absence of the Pearl attack provides the Allied player with some more assets to play with than ususal. I am truly glad that in this game, there are almost 30 Catilinas and about 50 P40 at my disposal that have been destroyed in my other PBEM in the Pearl attack. Looking at the numbers of reinforcements for these planes, that is a thing to appreciate in AE. And of course the number of naval assets is significantly increased, specifically in terms of BB.

A problem is of course how to use these naval assets at the beginning of the game. I think options are more limited than it may seem, mainly because of the supply infrastructure required to run a BB fleet. The fuel situation in many parts of the map at the beginning of the game is one limiting factor, a second one is the port size/amount of naval support needed to rearm them. It makes no sense to move them somewhere where fuel and/or rearming capabilities are insufficient to sustain their operation. Bombardment runs won’t affect too much, plus there is the risk of Netty intervention, specifically as long as air cover that may be provided is not efficient. And support of invasions – well, it is a good application of the BBs, but setting up a meaningful invasion in the central pacific that are worth their potential cost in terms of assests at the beginning of the game is not easy (don't point me to Nemo's AAR, his invasion is meaningful as part of his overall strategy, which I will not be able to copy for reasons I cannot discuss here). The fact that KB has disappeared does not add to the possibilities to use the BB row.

If I should find the perfect solution, I’ll let you know . Or perhaps someone else has one to share/discuss ?

Thanks for your interest

Hartwig

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RE: Some general thoughts re. Manila attack... - 3/30/2010 6:04:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		My newest foe decide to hit Manila with the usual assortment and KB. Lost around 75 ships so far. My big hitters..POW, Repulse, Boise, and the Dutch navy need to be carefull.

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First counterstrikes... - 3/30/2010 7:51:44 AM   
modrow

 

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Here’s a short summary of my first counterstrikes… almost exclusively naval strikes, and a bit different from my approach in my game against Rattovolante in that I use my available naval assets a tad more aggressively, even though I think the heavy hitters of force Z should – especially in view of KB lurking in the area and the limited number of places where they may be rearmed which leads to a certain degree of predictability with respect to their location after they have been used – be mainly used as a fleet in being now.

There are two reasons for this variation:

a) I know from our previous game that Ketza is a real fast invader. In other words, I do not think there will be an opportunity to use my assets in the DEI for a long time, so if I want to throw some dirt into the wheels of his plans – it won’t be a spanner right now for sure- this is the time to do it.

b) As I had posted in my AAR relating to my game against Rattovolante that I was going to strive to preserve my forces, which he may have studied, I thought maybe I should do something different now, just in case he assumes something else.

Here’s the outcome of my efforts on December 8:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Groot Natoena at 57,84, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E Shimushu, Shell hits 1
E Saga, Shell hits 2
CM Kamome, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 3
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 58,88, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii, Shell hits 2
CL Isuzu
TB Kari
PB Eifuku Maru
PB Sozan Maru
xAK Zenyo Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Johore Maru
xAK Fushimi Maru
xAK Toho Maru
xAK Ryoyo Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
xAP Miike Maru

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 1
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sambas at 57,88, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai, Shell hits 2
CL Sendai
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 2
DD Murakumo
DD Uranami

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius
DD Vendetta
DD Stronghold
DD Jupiter, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Samah at 69,63, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Thames Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Tihuku Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires
xAK Amakusa Maru
xAKL Fukuyo Maru, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thanet
DD Thracian

Japanese ground losses:
351 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Samah at 69,63, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E Tsuta
E Yomogi
AO Erimo, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Laoag at 81,72, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
APD Shimakaze
APD Nadakaze
DMS W-13
DMS W-14
PB Aso Maru #3
PB Kiso Maru
PB Nanpo Maru
CM Tsubame, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AV Sanuki Maru
xAK Sydney Maru #2
xAKL Kumakawa Maru
xAKL Hakuyo Maru
xAKL Hanakawa Maru

Allied Ships
MTB 7, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB 8
MTB 9
MTB 10
MTB 11
MTB 12
MTB 26, Shell hits 1
MTB 27, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 70,106, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Shell hits 2
CA Nachi, Shell hits 9
CL Nagara
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hayashio

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 9, on fire
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 70,106, Range 25,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, on fire
CA Nachi, Shell hits 4, on fire
CL Nagara
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze, heavy fires
DD Hayashio

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 4, on fire

Evidently no really decisive achievement, but a bit of a nuisance for sure. No reason for discontent IMHO. And, of course, a real fun turn to watch if you like watching naval combat, which I do ...

Thanks for your interest

Hartwig

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RE: Some general thoughts re. Manila attack... - 3/30/2010 7:55:08 AM   
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My newest foe decide to hit Manila with the usual assortment and KB. Lost around 75 ships so far. My big hitters..POW, Repulse, Boise, and the Dutch navy need to be carefull.


thanks for your comment. Yes, ship losses are high - I will come to that at a later point of time (which as usual may be only in a few days) in a separate post. At the same time, I think that as long as the ships lost are transports, the Allied can take them, especially in this region. The Japanese will get more fuel than usual when conquering though, don't know how much of a boost for their acivities that will be.

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Bombs, bombs, bombs... - 4/1/2010 8:21:01 PM   
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Time for another alternation… whereas the last post listed a number of surface battles during the first turn for which I was able to issue orders that I actually consider to have been sort of successful, this is the bad news: Concentrated air strikes that systematically went after shipping (as you will see in later posts, this has been a major aim of my opponent) and destruction of airfields – quite adroitly done, in my opinion. Fortunately, most of the sweeps did not meet any resistance anyway - where they did, it was - well, swept away

I add a long excerpt from the combat report again to illustrate:


Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 20


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 7 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet *

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 6 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30500 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 30500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 30500.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 60

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Nam Yong, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Ellenga, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Kelantan, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Demosthenes, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Wing Sang, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAP Hong Siang, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
HDML Pahalwan, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML Pennigat, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML Panglima, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML Panji, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Port hits 5
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Morning Air attack on Kota Bharu , at 51,75

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 45

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 85

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Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 6,200 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Demosthenes, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Hong Siang, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Ellenga, and is sunk

Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 1200 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 66 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 37

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Afternoon Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15

No Japanese losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 7

Fortunately, there is no need to oppose if one does not believe one can achieve something. So I decided to keep my air force busy with training runs for a while, until an opportunity would appear...

Thanks for your interest

Hartwig

P.S: Singkawang, Sambas, Kuching, Puerto Princesa and Kendari were conquered by Japan that turn.

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Shells, shells,shells... and, of course, more bombs ! - 4/1/2010 8:40:12 PM   
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December 9, 1941 saw essentialy a continuation of the above. I tried to use surface assets once more with some degree of aggression and some success, specifically trying to concentrate on Kendari to try to keep that base unusable for the Japanese as long as possible:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 70,106, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAKL Genmei Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAKL Daitei Maru, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Houston

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 71,106, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Myoko Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Shinanogawa Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Shinryu Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Kanko Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Yasukawa Maru, Shell hits 4
xAP Haruna Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter
DD Banckert
DD Witte de With
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein

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Naval bombardment of Kendari at 70,106

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead

Japanese ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 69
Port fuel hits 1

CL Marblehead firing at Kendari

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Naval bombardment of Kendari at 70,106

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hitora Maru, Shell hits 1
xAKL Kakyu Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CA Houston

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31

CA Houston firing at Kendari

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Taliaboe at 72,103, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
CS Chitose
CA Myoko, Shell hits 1
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 2
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 1
DD Banckert
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Kortenaer, Shell hits 1
DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage



Ketza continued his systematic destruction of my assets, including retaliation against the Dutch TF:

Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
40 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 26000 feet *


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter, heavy fires
DD Banckert
DD Piet Hein, heavy fires, heavy damage

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL De Ruyter
Banckert dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Piet Hein

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

No Japanese losses

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Batan Island at 85,70

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8



Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet, Shell hits 1

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer
CL De Ruyter, heavy fires
DD Banckert, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Witte de With, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Banckert dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL De Ruyter
Witte de With dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Witte de With

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter, heavy fires
DD Witte de With, heavy fires
DD Piet Hein, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kortenaer, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL De Ruyter
Witte de With dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Witte de With
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Piet Hein

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 12000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Batan Island at 85,70

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet, Shell hits 4

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer, on fire
DD Witte de With, on fire
DD Banckert, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring an Allied DD
Witte de With dead in the water ...
Banckert dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring an Allied PG

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
HDML 1102
HDML 1104

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Witte de With, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kortenaer, on fire
DD Banckert, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Witte de With dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Witte de With
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Kortenaer
Banckert dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring an Allied DD

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 78,102

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Banckert, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kortenaer, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL De Ruyter
Banckert dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring an Allied DD
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Kortenaer


Thanks for your interest

Hartwig

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Deja vu... - 4/1/2010 8:58:11 PM   
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December 10, 1941 - more of the same old same...

my standard stuff:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Aparri at 82,73, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DMS W-18
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 18
xAK Brisbane Maru, Shell hits 2
xAK Hawaii Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Sanko Maru
xAK Takao Maru
xAK Bunzan Maru, Shell hits 3
xAK Shinko Maru
xAK Oigawa Maru

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Thracian

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ocean Island at 130,130, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Santos Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAKL Kaito Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAKL Tenposan Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Louisville

Day Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 127,128, Range 21,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAKL Toyotsu Maru
xAKL Katsura Maru

Allied Ships
CA Louisville

Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway

Both Task Forces evade combat


Ketza's standard stuff


Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
G4M1 Betty x 43



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
PT-31, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Rochambeau, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Pope, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AS Otus, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PT-34, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1
SS S-38, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AM Whippoorwill, Bomb hits 1
PT Q-112, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AM Bittern, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT-41, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
PT-35, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Port hits 1


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Morning Air attack on 137/155th Field Regiment, at 49,73 (Alor Star)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 55
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (0 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (0 destroyed, 13 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 6th Indian Brigade, at 49,73 (Alor Star)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Naga at 81,81

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Thracian
DD Thanet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ternate at 77,103

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 6
B5N1 Kate x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40

No Japanese losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6

No Japanese losses


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 12000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Naga at 81,81

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Thracian

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Afternoon Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Runway hits 16

Bases of interest taken: Aparri, Vigan

Perhaps I should add that whereas I do cut a number of events from the combat reports, in this and the above posts I did not leave out any significant Allied air strike. I do not belive in striking for striking's sake, but wait for opportunities. Why, e.g., should I waste my P40 in the PI when I am well aware of incoming zero sweeps of significant size ? I'd rather let him bomb... In addition, a lot of my airstrips were quite closed anyway...

Thanks for your interest

Hartwig

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My first major mistake... - 4/2/2010 1:50:41 PM   
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execution of the December 11, 1941 turn revealed what I consider to have been my first real mistake:

Ketza was doing mostly his usual shiphunting, plus some "surprise attacks" on groung units in Malaya, probably hoping to catch a LCU in an inadequate mode. I tried to stand up against that at Palembang using three Buffalo squadrons (some 45 planes) set to form a layered CAP (70%/30%rest). I'll mark the corresponding parts of the combat report in colour below. Didn't work well, there were just too few planes in the air for whatever reason - but a lot of those who did appeared to have been damaged and the participating squadrons were so tired when I looked at them in the next game file that it did not make much sense to use them the next turn.


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M2 Nell x 25

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CM Willem v d Zaan, Bomb hits 1
PC Tydeman, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Spirilla
TK British Judge

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I
Group patrol altitude is 10500
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I
Group patrol altitude is 30000
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I
Group patrol altitude is 13000,


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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
G4M1 Betty x 44



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AM Lark, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS Permit, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AM Whippoorwill, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Rochambeau, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS S-38, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AM Quail, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PG Tulsa, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 2, on fire


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Port hits 1

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4



No Japanese losses


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Morning Air attack on 137/155th Field Regiment, at 49,78

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 137/155th Field Regiment, at 49,78

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 6



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 15th Indian Brigade, at 49,73 (Alor Star)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Thracian

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Morning Air attack on Rabaul , at 106,125

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 19


No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Chilka, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Mundra, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Indira, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Port hits 4
Port supply hits 1


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 79,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thanet



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Morning Air attack on 137/155th Field Regiment, at 49,78

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40



No Japanese losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6

No Japanese losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27

No Japanese losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M2 Nell x 15

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
TK Manvantara, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Francol
TK Pleiodon, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 79,89

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thracian
DD Thanet

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PG Hindustan
xAK Sirsa, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Wo Sang

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Babeldaob at 87,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 2

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
HDML 1103
xAK Sirsa, on fire
xAK Wo Sang, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 79,89

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Thracian


Other than that, I, too, continued to hit my opponent using naval assets...



Night Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 126,127, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAKL Toyotsu Maru
xAKL Katsura Maru

Allied Ships
CA Louisville


Both Task Forces evade combat

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Naval bombardment of Kendari at 70,106

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Bulmer
DD Barker

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 30

DD Bulmer firing at Kendari
DD Barker firing at Kendari

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Naval bombardment of Singora at 51,72

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-15-II Babs: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
xAK Osaka Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Nako Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CL Danae

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 41
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

CL Danae firing at Singora


Day Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 70,106, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAKL Heiwa Maru
xAKL Higari Maru

Allied Ships
DD Barker
DD Bulmer

Both Task Forces evade combat

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Manus at 101,119, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAKL Katsuragisan Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAKL Amakasu Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide


Some of the Emperor's conquests: Miri, Manus, Tulagi.

Thanks for your interest

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My first major success... - 4/4/2010 12:16:57 PM   
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the previous post described what I consider to have been my biggest mistake so far, this one relates to my biggest success.

Last turn, I described an attempt to use my air assets that failed, and if you followed the combat report closely, you will have noticed a lot of unescorted naval attacks in the vicinity of the Philippines and Celebes.

Therefore, in the December 12, 1941 turn I tried another, stronger ambush on an escorted strike – in view of the availability of AVG, Rangoon was a good place to try that – and to use the P40 that start in the PI to cut into naval strikes. Both worked well.

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 34
Buffalo I x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed


Allied Ships
xAK Chilka, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Sirsa, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Wo Sang, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Ardent, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Indira, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage



Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Davao at 79,91

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4



Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 22
Buffalo I x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Davao at 79,91

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15



Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 11 destroyed

According to the tracker , a total of 63 Japanese planes were shot down on that day for the cost of 14 Allied AC, including almost 30 Betties and 13 Oscars. I have no idea how deep Japan’s Betty pools are at the beginning of the game and how many Betties are produced per month in scenario 2, but I guess the Emperor was not pleased …

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Lull and not working as designed - 4/6/2010 9:55:32 PM   
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the December 13 1941 turn was quite a lull, I will skip it (otherwise this AAR will never catch up with the game).

December 14 was supposed to see one major operation from my side, which did not quite work as designed. I guess partly the weatherman is to blame... The forecast said clear skies were to be expected, look at the real weather conditions described in the combat report excerpts below

Anyway, first let me introduce the plan. One of the things that Ketza did in Malaya was driving out my assets. During the first few turns, he wrecked quite successfuly a number of airfields, so I moved my planes. Then, he turned against my ships, which I did not start to move in time (partly because I expected major assets hunting for fleeing ships anyway).

An interesting thing relating to the Malaya campaign as it presents itself right now is that Ketza shipped a lot of stuff into Singora - and that's it so far. I *think* this may be part of an attempt to make me go for a forward defense and then cut me off, but maybe he also earmarked these troops for an early dash into Sumatra and/or Java (he took Palembang very early in our WitP game with an elegant coup de main). In any case, this means that he relies almost exclusively on Singora as a base for his shorter legged planes (Lilly,Sally). There are also a decent number of ships in port. (I had reconned Singora on a regular basis, detection level was 8/10 on December 14.)

Therefore, I moved a lot of strike (both Hudson squadrons, the Blenheim IV squadron and one Blenheim I squadron) assets back into Georgetown and Taiping and tossed in a some 20 B17D from Singapore, escorts and a sweep component. This did not turn into a disaster, but frankly I thought the resulting damage was disappointing.

Morning Air attack on Singora , at 51,72

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 21



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 17


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses
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Morning Air attack on Singora , at 51,72

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 10



Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 9
Buffalo I x 17
Hudson I x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-15-II Babs: 1 destroyed on ground




Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 6
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Morning Air attack on Singora , at 51,72

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 5



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
B-17D Fortress x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 1
Port hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Singora , at 51,72

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 2



Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

I guess I'll have to order some more ground bombing training (even though the RAF and RAAF pilots were about 50ish in terms of ground bombing skill; the failure of the B17 did not really come as a surprise due to their lack of said skill).

Not much else to report other than ship hunting by Ketza, today with naval attack flavor rather than port strikes. Oh, and Victoria point fell.

Thanks for your interest

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Summing up Dec. 15-17 - 4/7/2010 7:51:40 PM   
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I'll very briefly sum up the December 15 - December 17 1941 turns to bring you up to the current state of affairs. I still have to do my orders for the December 18 turn, so I'll be brief. There's not too much to tell about these turns, anyway.

Mainly, during these turns an invasion of Manado took place. The place fell on December 17. In other relevant news, unfortunately my opponent caught transiting parts of AVG in a 40 Zero sweep. Nominally, my combat altitude was higher than his, but that did not help. Losses were 2:1 in his favor, fortunately most of the pilots are still alive and kicking, so there'll be another day for them once I find the airframes.

That's about it. Thanks for reading

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Christmas on Java - 4/16/2010 10:13:08 AM   
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in contrast to my other AAR, updates of this AAR relating to my game against Ketza could contain a lot of information, there are currently a number of parallel major operations of some interest and I presently owe Ketza the orders for the December 23rd turn, whereas my last update was after execution of the December 17 turn. So in a way, this post is a teaser to keep you interested, I will try to sum up some of the events in the future...

Some of the Japanese carriers are currently present in the vicinity of Wake - Ketza and I have been dancing around Wake in the last few turns and I think I managed to delay him there for a few turns. I will present this battle in a chronological way once it is over (which is probably the case either after resolution of this turn or the next turn).

A second part of the carriers is covering the next deep thrust (Singapore still belongs to me): There is a cluster of enemy TFs 6 hexes from the coast of Java. Christmas leave has been cancelled for everyone who can carry a weapon. There's going to be action in Java soon. I will keep you posted...

A third focus is currently China. As I am not sure how much Ketza's plans against his new opponent vary from the ones pursued in this game, I will not say much about this at this point of time and just indicate that he has found an attack vector which will force me to retreat from a number of bases in order to avoid being encircled and slaughtered. In general, I have a problem with supply FLOW (not yet total supply) in China - I just don't seem to be able to supply my troops in some bases, even if the neighboring base has supplies aplenty and I try to pull supplies into the base in question. Frankly, I still did not fully master the control of the supply flow as modified by the last patch. To me, there seems to be a current towards the "main base of the theatre" now which needs to be constantly countered by pulling supply in contrast to the previous situation where supply pulling only had to be activated occasionally. Unfortunately, this pulls supply also from places where you don't want it to be removed. If someone can tell me his view on / approach to things and/or the changes, I'll be glad to receive additional information.

Ok, that's my update of the day. Thanks for your interest

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RE: Christmas on Java - 4/16/2010 10:27:13 AM   
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RE: Christmas on Java - 4/16/2010 1:40:35 PM   
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Dancing with carriers around wake in 41 , you are one of the brave for sure


vlcz,

when I give the full report on the Wake campaign, you will see that my courage is actually very limited, but has allowed me to keep part of my opponent's CVs at that place of relatively small relevance for a few days. Note that my above post does not contain any comment on the Allied assets participating in the dance...

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Wake... - 4/22/2010 5:57:45 PM   
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Ok, let’s talk about W(F)ake.

I’d like to start from the original motivation. As you know, my opponent had opted for the Manila variant, which is unpleasant because KB is very much in the center of the map and can be quickly redeployed to wherever additional punch is needed.

So my original question was “How can I draw KB or at least parts thereof to a place of relative irrelevance, causing my opponent to burn precious fuel, rack up some sys damage and reveal the position of some of his assets ?”.

One good possibility for the bait required would be a carrier. So where on the map might one reveal the presence of a carrier at a place of relative irrelevance? For me, the answer is/was Wake, because it is a place to which in many games Allied carriers are moved in order to try to beat up the Wake invasion. So, if you would get intel about a US CV at Wake, that would sound plausible – maybe even like an opportunity to spring a trap and get rid of those CVs early on.

Next question is how to make your presence known. Well, there are planes that are typical for a carrier, and if you let them do search and/or ASW work with high intensity, earlier or later they will be identified as what they are. Which does, of course, lead at once to the question whether there is any need to send a carrier there at all (after all, it is a place of relative irrelevance, so why risk a precious asset there ?). Just a few planes will do nicely. Of course, you may want to have fighters and strike planes, so you have a chance to demonstrate that your fake is real. And in fact, that is a role for which the F2A3 is very well suited – because it can transfer from Wake to Midway, just like the SDB, so your valuable carrier squadrons won’t be lost in the action.

So that’s what I did – I based 2 squadrons of planes at Wake and started making noise, waiting to see what would come my way.

To be continued…

Thanks for your interest so far

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Wake continued... - 4/22/2010 8:15:41 PM   
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in the next few posts, I will show the choreography of our dance. Most of the Allied dancers dance under the sea (because they are subs, only one Allied AK was sunk during the campaign)... Mostly just a sequence of maps, you can see the game date on them, plus the relevant parts of the combat report.

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fyi: the TF West of Wake is an AK trying to move in much needed supplies...




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RE: Wake continued... - 4/22/2010 8:26:41 PM   
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Here's what resolution of the December 18 turn resulted in:



Morning Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 131,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2



Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 8
SBD-3 Dauntless x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AMC Kongo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMC Kinryu Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 136,98

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
D3A1 Val x 9



Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F2A-3 Buffalo: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAK Florence D., Bomb hits 9, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 131,98

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2



Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 5
SBD-3 Dauntless x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kako
CA Kinugasa

A pity these ships were not hit... the Dauntless were flying 1000 lb bombs around



Looking back, I should have set the Dauntless to a lower search/rest percentage, but frankly I did not expect that little CAP and wanted to save high quality pilots. I actually had not thought I would even achieve something with the strike other than reinofrcing the message "there's something out there" and maybe a scare...


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RE: Wake continued... - 4/22/2010 8:35:52 PM   
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RE: Wake continued... - 4/22/2010 8:40:09 PM   
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Naval bombardment of Wake Island at 136,98

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1

CA Kinugasa firing at Wake Island
CA Aoba firing at Wake Island

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ASW attack near Wake Island at 136,102

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
CA Tone
DD Tanikaze
DD Inazuma
DD Ikazuchi
DD Natsugumo

Allied Ships
SS Tautog


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Naval bombardment of Wake Island at 136,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

23 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kako
CA Furutaka


Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island at 136,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba, Shell hits 2

Runway hits 2

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Morning Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 17



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

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Morning Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6



No Japanese losses





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RE: Wake continued... - 4/22/2010 9:02:05 PM   
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ASW attack near Wake Island at 136,98

Japanese Ships
CM Tsugaru
PB Shotoku Maru
PB Shoei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Plunger



SS Plunger launches 4 torpedoes at CM Tsugaru
Plunger bottoming out ....


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Naval bombardment of Wake Island at 136,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei


Allied ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22
Port hits 13
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Pre-Invasion action off Wake Island

10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shotoku Maru
PB Shoei Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
PB Kyo Maru #8
xAK Daifuku Maru
CM Tsugaru

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Amphibious Assault at Wake Island

TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 136,98

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /1
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /1
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt
10 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /4

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Invasion Support action off Wake Island

15 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shotoku Maru
PB Kyo Maru #8
xAK Daifuku Maru
CM Tsugaru

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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ASW attack near Wake Island at 135,97

Japanese Ships
DD Shiranui
BB Kirishima
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi

Allied Ships
SS Thresher



SS Thresher launches 6 torpedoes at DD Shiranui
Thresher diving deep ....

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Sub attack near Wake Island at 135,100

Japanese Ships
xAK Shofuku Maru
xAK Nikki Maru
PB Kohuku Maru

Allied Ships
SS Cachalot



SS Cachalot launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Shofuku Maru
Cachalot diving deep ....

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Morning Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6



No Japanese losses

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Invasion Support action off Wake Island
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shotoku Maru
PB Shoei Maru
PB Kyo Maru #8
xAK Daifuku Maru

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Ground combat at Wake Island (136,98)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3928 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 132

Defending force 984 troops, 24 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Japanese adjusted assault: 103

Allied adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 51 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1645 casualties reported
Squads: 67 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 118 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 39 (39 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 2


Assaulting units:
144th Infantry Rgt /26

Defending units:
Wake USN CPNAB
1st Marine Defense Battalion



So, in the end I think my little fake may have achieved what it was supposed to achieve - pull out a CV force, cause some delay and extra ship movements. The numerous subs which I vectored in pulled off a few attacks, even though they did not hunt anything down (which was unlikely anyway bearing in mind the dud torpedoes). Everything on top of that was bonus.

What I should have done better was keep an eye on supply levels at Wake - actually, I sent an xAK there too late. I assume that the landings were easier than it may have been the case if the CD unit would have been fully supplied (even though the numerous bombardments definitely took their toll as well). Well, maybe next time. That would be Midway, would it not

Thanks for your interest

Hartwig




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RE: Wake continued... - 4/22/2010 10:08:45 PM   
Alfred

 

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Status: offline 		Not necessarily, it could be Johnston Island and thence onto the Line Islands. Depends on whether he wants to capture/neutralise Hawaii or attempt to sever the SLOC between USA and Australia.

Alfred

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