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Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 9:50:11 AM   
Vic


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Status: offline 		Hi there everyone,

I have not done this before and i might actually give away some info here on the next title i am working on... but i seriously need some help finding some pictures.

Believe me that i have searched a lot already and couldnt find these. Its amazing but a lot of WW2 Corps level generals seem to have been lost completly in obscurity. Of course not the German ones! But especially Belgian and French and also some British Generals.

I am looking for pictures of the following generals:

British, September 1940
GOT ALL BRITISH

Belgian, May 1940
GOTTA BELGIAN GUY ON THIS.
III corps, Joseph de Krahe
IV Corps, Andre Bogaerts
VI Corps, Fernand Verstraete

French generals
SOMEBODY IS HELPING ME MAIL THE FRENCH ARMY MUSEUM
XLI Corps, Emmanuel-Urbain Libaud
X Corps, Pierre-Paul Gransard
XVIII Corps, Eugene-Jules Rochard

If anybody can help me here it will be immensly appreciated and if you want you will be credited.

Thanks to 82nd trooper for finding Thorne, Fonblanque and Massy.
Some-one else in the meantime helped me to Bloch, Martin and Boris.

Best regards,
Vic



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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 12:46:18 PM   
82ndtrooper


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XII Corps, Augustus Thorne



hi vic

I found a small picture of this guy for you.

http://www.unithistories.com/officers/Army_officers_T01.html

I am not sure if you can use it.





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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 1:12:20 PM   
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XI Corps, Hugh Massy


I found this guy also for you.

http://www.unithistories.com/officers/Army_officers_M01.html




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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 1:47:26 PM   
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II Corps, Edmund Osborne


I found a website that says it has pictures of this guy but they are not available on the web.

here is a link dont know if it will help.

http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person.php?LinkID=mp76049

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 1:50:39 PM   
82ndtrooper


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Edward de Fonblanque


found this guy but he isnt in uniform

http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person.php?sText=Edward+de+Fonblanque&submitSearchTerm_x=6&submitSearchTerm_y=10&search=ss&OConly=true&firstRun=true&LinkID=mp71922

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 1:52:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		that's all i could find hope it helps you Vic

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 3:09:36 PM   
Josh

 

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Status: offline 		Here's another one from Augustus (Andrew) Thorne: http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person.php?sText=Augustus+Thorne+&submitSearchTerm%5Fx=16&submitSearchTerm%5Fy=9&search=ss&OConly=true&firstRun=true&LinkID=mp78164

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 3:14:10 PM   
Josh

 

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Status: offline 		Have to say it's mighty difficult to find one, especially the French and Belgian generals. It might be impossible to find the right ones, then you could put a generic "staff picture" in place?
I mean, I just spend an hour searching for the French generals without succes

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 3:16:13 PM   
Vic


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Status: offline 		Thanks to 82nd trooper  for finding Thorne, Fonblanque and Massy. If you want to be included in the credits provide your real name.

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 3/31/2010 9:29:29 PM   
Josh

 

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Status: offline 		Concerning the French generals, I tried searching sites written in english... maybe I should've tried a search in French. But as I am pretty bad in the French language... don't know if that will give any results. Maybe "Balder" can ask for some pictures on his french forum, he's French after all.
Balder: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2270367

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/1/2010 3:03:27 AM   
82ndtrooper


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Status: offline 		my real name is Howard Wakefield

and that sounds cool !!

ill have to buy it now !   ( i was gonna buy it anyway :)


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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/1/2010 11:01:16 AM   
Vic


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ORIGINAL: 82ndtrooper

my real name is Howard Wakefield

and that sounds cool !!

ill have to buy it now !   ( i was gonna buy it anyway :)



made a note. thanks again. dont hope i discouraged you know you have your name in already with finding the remaining brits ;)

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/1/2010 3:16:46 PM   
kender79


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Status: offline 		Go see strategium site and the mod33 for Heart Of Iron.

http://www.strategium-alliance.com
http://www.strategium-alliance.com/Mod-HoI33-pour-Doomsday-entierement-en-francais-193.4686.0.html

They must have the most complet list of picture for the french armies.
If not, you could ask some help in the associated forum.

Balder post this AAR in the forum.

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/2/2010 4:17:53 PM   
Vic


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ORIGINAL: kender79

Go see strategium site and the mod33 for Heart Of Iron.

http://www.strategium-alliance.com
http://www.strategium-alliance.com/Mod-HoI33-pour-Doomsday-entierement-en-francais-193.4686.0.html

They must have the most complet list of picture for the french armies.
If not, you could ask some help in the associated forum.

Balder post this AAR in the forum.

quote:

http://www.strategium-alliance.com/Mod-HoI33-pour-Doomsday-entierement-en-francais-193.4686.0.html


good idea. however i dont speak french nor have i got HOI3 installed. If somebody with HOI3 installed could take a look to see if the missing officers can be found it would be appreciated. My email is vic@xs4all.nl

Or if somebody who speaks french could post the request for the pictures on my behalf on the forum in question it would be appreciated too.

best regards,
vic

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/3/2010 3:52:06 AM   
springer

 

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Status: offline 		Vic,

What is your time line? I doubt I can be of much use, but I will make the effort to check out some offline sources within the next couple of weeks.

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/3/2010 10:52:28 AM   
Vic


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Status: offline 		@springer,

well... i would like to get the pictures within a couple of weeks.
once i find one i am removing it from the list in this thread so double searching work is evaded.
let me know if you find something.

vic



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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/4/2010 11:22:05 AM   
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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/17/2010 8:01:26 AM   
springer

 

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Status: offline 		Vic,

I haven't made it to my university's library yet, so I've been of no help. It's about 20 miles away and I haven't had the chance to search theree.  The local libraries, which you have probably also tapped in the Netherlands, have come up null.  I think you need a Belgian and a French person to help out.

I'll still try as long as the thread is not updated, but I'm getting the strong sense that history erases the photographs, memories and images of those who participated in a defeat. 

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/17/2010 6:14:24 PM   
Jeffrey H.


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Status: offline 		I get the feeling that a person will need to start contacting family members to get any material.

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RE: Historical Research Help Needed! - 4/19/2010 4:38:36 PM   
Vic


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Status: offline 		Found 2 british generals and got some french speakers to help me.
so far still a few missing.

@springer
and yes the mists of time appear very quickly. more quickly then i had imagined actually.
its a bit of a humbling thought.

best regards,
vic

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