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The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 6:12:03 PM   
Bandkanon

 

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Status: offline 		I remember reading in the AARs about the trick to expand carrier air groups on land and then placing them into your CVs. Some have felt that this is gamey. But I would like to know the detailed process of how to go about doing it. Can anyone tell me. Thanks in advance.
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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 7:33:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		You expand the groups on CVs and place them on LAND, not the other way around. I personally think it's OK within limits, though the 64-plane super group strikes me as gamey.

1. Empty CV of all groups
2. Put single group on CV; set to RESIZE (some groups cannot be set to RESIZE if they have resize dates)
3. Form the CV into a TF, then immediately disband, or just wait a turn. Either way, the group will now re-size

Generally, the group will expand to fit the CV.



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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 7:37:06 PM   
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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 7:41:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm thinking about building up a super duper F4 recon squadron. Nothing will be able to hide from me.

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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 8:42:01 PM   
Bandkanon

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks QBall for the quick reply. Does this work only for CVs or can it also be used for CVLs?

Thanks

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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 8:50:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		can be used on cvl's and cve's as well as other ships that can load air/seaplanes.

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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 8:54:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure does seem gamey to me, I'd clear it with your opponent before I did it.

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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 9:51:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bandkanon

Thanks QBall for the quick reply. Does this work only for CVs or can it also be used for CVLs?

Thanks

It can be used on CVLs too. I upgraded a couple Val and Kate units before my opponent and I decided this was gamey in the extreme and then stopped it.

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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 10:54:18 PM   
Bandkanon

 

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bandkanon

Thanks QBall for the quick reply. Does this work only for CVs or can it also be used for CVLs?

Thanks

It can be used on CVLs too. I upgraded a couple Val and Kate units before my opponent and I decided this was gamey in the extreme and then stopped it.


Yes, it does seem a bit gamey...but my Allied opponent doesn't seem very concerned that I plan on doing it...he has already agreed to let me do it...

By the way, what exactly makes it so gamey...is it the ability to train more pilots than normal? But wouldn't IRL the Japanese could have done the same?

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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/5/2010 11:01:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		did we ever find out why folks have issue as allies, sometimes I get this to work, most of the time not? thanks

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RE: The expanding your air groups trick for CVs - 4/6/2010 12:02:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've seen a very long list of rules governing this, but I'm not quite sure where it was. Basically, the new size of an airgroup is governed by the type of CV, it's size, the date, the side and maybe even the type of airgroup. Smaller CV types are capable of resizing groups to a large portion of it's max capacity. I think it's unlikely that you'll be able to resize a group to completely fill a large CV.

Edit : So the rules are posted here

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