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The Empire Strikes Back - 3/12/2010 11:05:04 PM   
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It’s a trap!
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3/1/1942 – 3/5/1942

The unbroken string of successful Allied invasions came to an end on 5 March when Japanese forces thwarted the invasion of Milne Bay. Though not a crushing defeat for the resource-rich Allied forces it is still nice to not come out on the short end of the stick for a change.

I was pretty certain that Milne Bay was targeted for invasion and on 3 March I spotted transports leaving Port Moresby. I moved two surface groups to within striking distance of Milne Bay and on 4 March ordered them to make a night move into the base itself. What happened is this, as near as I can tell:

- The first of two Allied amphibious TFs reached Milne Bay, where two xAPs hit mines. They then detected the approach of the Musashi SCTF. The night was pitch black and they successfully got underway again, evaded the Japanese, and headed back to Port Moresby. On the way back xAP Wo Sang was torpedoed and sunk by I-26.

- The second amphibious TF reached Milne Bay, dropped anchor, and was then attacked by the second Japanese SCTF, based around Yamato and Haruna. This time the Allied ships did not evade and the task force was almost wiped out before the survivors got under way and fled.

- The Allied covering force, consisting of at least BB Indiana, CAs Quincy and Indianapolis, and CL Boise, finished their night move one hex short of Milne Bay. There DD Bagley was sunk by I-173. When day came they moved into the now empty Milne Bay hex, where Indiana and Boise hit mines. Indiana then took a torpedo from a Nell flying out of Rabaul.

The result was no landing at Milne Bay, some fifteen or so Allied ships lost, and probably one or two really messed-up land units. Japanese losses consisted of five planes and no Japanese warship took any damage. As I said, the Allies can shrug off this defeat and they will be back. Milne Bay will fall. But it won’t fall today and in the meantime perhaps this will encourage Q-Ball to be a little more cautious.

Allied 2E and 4E bombers raided Rabaul during the turn. The CAP didn’t stop them very well and they did modest damage to the airfield and destroyed nine planes on the ground. A Japanese SC was sunk by Allied sub south of Tokyo. Elsewhere things remained quiet, as they have been for the last few turns.

The combat report from the successful intercept:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Yamato
CA Atago
CA Maya
DD Makigumo
DD Maikaze
DD Natsugumo

Allied Ships
APD Manley, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
DMS Chandler, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AP J. Franklin Bell, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAK Alabaman, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Arkansan, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
xAK Californian, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Kansan
xAK Lancaster
xAP Demosthenes, Shell hits 28, and is sunk
xAP Esperance, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Dardanus, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
xAP Tiradentes, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
xAP Macdhui, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Beltana, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAK Cardross, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
331 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled)


Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 0% moonlight: 5,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 3,000 yards


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/12/2010 11:31:14 PM   
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Muhahaha! Kuddos Cuttlefish

And nice quote

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/13/2010 12:21:24 AM   
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It may not be a war winner Cuttlefish, but I bet it feels great after all the reverses. If only a bloody nose for Q-Ball, it was still a nice operation you pulled off. Well done!

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/13/2010 1:16:09 PM   
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Congratulations on the well-deserved victory Cuttlefish, it should be good for morale at Cuttlefish HQ.

With what looks like most of your modern warships engaged near the Solomons, which ships are protecting the Central Pacific and the DEI? Do you intend to try and intervene with any further landings in the DEI with your ships, or will you use mostly air power?

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/13/2010 3:32:37 PM   
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Banzai!

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/14/2010 6:19:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ComradeP

Congratulations on the well-deserved victory Cuttlefish, it should be good for morale at Cuttlefish HQ.

With what looks like most of your modern warships engaged near the Solomons, which ships are protecting the Central Pacific and the DEI? Do you intend to try and intervene with any further landings in the DEI with your ships, or will you use mostly air power?


Thanks, morale is indeed up a bit. I don't mind losing as Japan, in a military sense it is inevitable, but I do like to put up a good fight along the way. As for your question, see my next entry. Air power alone has not been getting the job done for me so I will keep a good number of ships in the DEI and try to use them aggressively.


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/14/2010 6:36:57 PM   
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If blood be the price of admiralty, Lord God, we ha’ paid in full!
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3/6/1943 – 3/11/1943

The Imperial Japanese Navy saw action again for the second time in a week, this time against Allied forces invading ungarrisoned Den Pasar, just off the tip of Java. I did not see this one en route but a scratch force built around BB Nagato was assembled and ordered to attack on the second night of the enemy invasion.

The Japanese force met a covering force of three enemy heavy cruisers. The Japanese had slightly the better of the resulting action, sinking DD Stuart and doing significant damage to CA Frobisher.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Den Passar at 58,108, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 5
CL Kinu
DD Yamagumo
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CA Exeter, Shell hits 1
CA Frobisher, Shell hits 7, on fire
CL Perth
CL Hobart
CL St. Louis
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hull
DD MacDonough
DD Stuart, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Arunta


The important result was that the Allied force withdrew and the Japanese force proceeded on to attack and completely destroy the Allied invasion fleet:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Den Passar at 58,108, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 2
CA Ashigara
CL Kinu
DD Yamagumo
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki, heavy fires
DD Yuzuki, on fire

Allied Ships
DMS Zane, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
SC-708, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
SC-738, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Thomas Barry, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Esperance Bay, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
xAP Largs Bay, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
xAK Glenaffric, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
xAK Mahsud, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAP Felix Roussel, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Rangitata, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
718 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (5 destroyed, 8 disabled)


Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 17% moonlight: 11,000 yards


The two damaged Japanese destroyers, Kikuzuki and Yuzuki, came under attack by 25 Vindicators when the sun rose. CAP from Soerabaja shot down 9 of the attackers but the survivors sank the two destroyers. Den Pasar fell but the Australian brigade involved in the attack seems to have been mostly destroyed aboard ship.

Allied bombers, B-24s and B-25s, have been attacking Soerabaja for the last three days. They have destroyed about 20 planes on the ground at a cost of only about a dozen bombers shot down or crashed but the attacks are growing more feeble and the airfield is not heavily damaged. I expect Q-Ball will give up the attempt soon unless he can commit fighters to the operation. Early-war Japanese fighters are terrible at shooting down bombers but they do put a number of holes in them and the accumulated airframe damage seems to make sustained bombing rather difficult.

Koumac Falls: actually, I don’t know if there are any falls at Koumac. There might be. If there are, they are Allied falls now. Koumac fell on 11 March to the second Allied attack. The survivors are retreating to Noumea. It will probably take another week or two for Noumea to fall but New Caledonia is pretty well cut off by now and its fate is sealed. Allied ships are also off Babo, near the western end of New Guinea. The thing about Babo is that it can be easily hit by carrier planes from the Pacific ocean side. My carriers are currently at Truk and I am sending them over to see if they can attack the invasion force before it withdraws. It will probably take three days for them to reach attack position.

Under the Sea: Allied subs sank two of my TKs during the period, which I always hate to see. One of the attacks, SS Truant, was sunk by the convoy’s escorts off Singapore. Revenge is sweet and all that. Two xAKs were also damaged by sub attack, one off Kyushu and the other off northern Borneo. Both may or may not survive. Japanese subs had several contacts but did not make any successful attacks. Both the DEI and the Coral Sea/New Caledonia area are swarming with I-boats, though. My sub losses have been very light and so I have a lot of submarines in the water right now. Most of them are being employed defensively but I do have a few out looking for enemy shipping from the Aleutians to down around New Zealand.


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/14/2010 6:48:46 PM   
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quote:

The important result was that the Allied force withdrew and the Japanese force proceeded on to attack and completely destroy the Allied invasion fleet:


Shameful cowardice, considering there were still two 8-inch cruisers and a Brooklyn-class CL in the fight. Tokyo Rose has something to boast about, and I imagine Q-Ball won't be using that particluar TF commander any more!

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/15/2010 8:43:53 PM   
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Casualties? What do I care about casualties?
- Attributed to Major General A.G. Hunter-Weston: Gallipoli, 1915

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3/12/1943 – 3/15/1943

The Japanese carrier operation against the Allied landing force at Babo was a success. Japanese carrier planes flew over New Guinea from the Pacific and sank four xAPs and four xAKLs. A corvette escaped, but I am not going to complain. No Japanese planes were lost in the attack.

This continues a month that has seen a lot of damage to Q-Ball’s merchant marine, especially his troop transports. I am under no illusions that the losses are heavy enough to force him to cancel or even postpone any operations. But perhaps he will have to start covering his operations a little better, forcing him to slow down the pace a little.

One thing that the game can’t simulate, of course, is an accurate reaction to heavy casualties. Especially an Allied reaction. A lot of the reason the Allied advance took as long as it did, I think, was to minimize the risks to the men, ships, and planes involved. A player in the game does not have to worry about such humanitarian concerns or answer to an angry citizenry.

The Japanese people were conditioned by this time to accept any sacrifice, and in any event they weren’t told when things went wrong. But the Allied powers in general were not so sanguine about throwing away lives and I think that in the long run this was a strength, not a weakness. But I digress. The point is that casualties in the game are not going to have any effect unless they produce actual shortages that effect operations, and the Allies have very deep pockets in that regard. Q-Ball is operating along some long supply lines, though, so creating temporary local shortages might buy me some time.

Under the Sea: the Allied submarine effort continues to pick up steam. In the last few days I have lost an xAK, an xAKL, an AMc, and a sub chaser. The two xAKs I reported hit in the previous entry both made port and will survive, by the way. But attacks and hits are becoming ever more frequent, especially off the coast of Japan.

My aircraft spot a lot of the subs, and fairly often report hits. At least 90% of those are FOW, though, just wishful thinking on the part of the pilots. I then send sub chasers to camp the sub’s locations but this does not do a lot of good. I have a fair number of SCs with an ASW rating of 8 now, and I give them the best commanders that I can, but the experience levels of the crew are too low to make them of much use. Mostly what they end up being is targets.

Some of them may survive to become effective. I hope so. My good sub hunters are my DDs and some of the E-types (the ones converted from DDs seem to be especially effective) but there aren’t enough to go around. Most of the escorts are with convoys and risking DDs to hunt subs isn’t the best way to use them, I think.



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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/16/2010 1:58:03 AM   
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That's a very valid point. It's well known that wargamers are much more bloody-minded than RL cos, the IJ admirals and generals, except Kurita, may be the exception that proves the rule.

You have an offsetting advantage that the US is entirely quiescent to defeat. It's clear to me that after King moved into Guadalcanal in what seemed like a minor enough manuever, that Roosevelt was forced to commit more than he had planned (particularly in the air) to the Pacific (1) to avoid defeat, (2) to avoid divisive charges of misfeasance if King were to say he hadn't done all he could to avoid defeat, (3) to avoid facing the Guadalcanal political catastrophe in the future (whicdh cost him the November 1942 elections), and (4) to do something productive with those assets once they had been transferred.

SO the tempo winds up be much higher on both sides, stretched to the limit of what is physically possible, when in RL, there were reasons constraining both side.

I don't think the Allied tempo issues compare with a country that started out with 10% of the GNP of the US, going downhill from there, on a general economic level comparable to Italy, being able to match US air development into 1943, despite US commitment of 30+% of its production to the Pacific.


The tale of the Tony from Bergerud is instructive:

quote:

Unfortunately for the JAAF, the develpoment of the Tony illustrated everything that was wrong with the Japanese aviation industry. Although Kawasaki had been given permission to prepare for production in 1941, the numbers of aircraft proceeded at a sluggish pace. As we will see the JAAF soon confronted disaster in New Guinea and needed more planes desparately. However, from April to October 1942, production averaged barely fifty planes per month, nowhere near enough to keep up strngth in New Guinea, much less replace Oscars with the more advanced plane . . . .

Numbers were not the only problem. Despite having German blueprints and German aircraft to study, Japanese factories could not produce a reliable aircraft. A very high percentage of Tonys received from the plant failed inspection and had to be delivered to the large JAAP depot at Kagamighara in Japan to be repaired. As mentioned many Tonys were lost during deployment, and many others arrived suffering mechanical difficulties. There were, however, only a handful of well-trained Tony mechanics, and spare parts were always terribly short. Repair equipment was in short supply or non-existence in New Guinea. The closet Tony supply depot was 1,000 miles away in the Indies. An engine change required the plane to be shipped to ClaRK FIELD in manila. Problems with engine cooling and hydraulic systmes plagued the warplane and frustrated inexperienced gound crews in the field.

Still, Kawasaki continued to work on the Tony. Late in the war, it became one of the most effective aircraft to defend Japan against bomber attack. Yet when the Tony was needed it was a failure . . . .


Fire in the Sky, pp. 223-24.

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All Your Base - 3/19/2010 2:58:40 AM   
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All your base are belong to us.
- CATS, Zero Wing video game

3/16/1943 – 3/24/1943

It’s been almost six months, game time, since the Allied invasion of Timor. That defeat yielded its most bitter fruit to date when Balikpapan fell on 24 March to an assault of three divisions plus armor and assorted other units.

I have five six task forces (two destroyer divisions, a cruiser force, two battleship forces with six battleships, and a CV force with Kaga, Akagi, Junyo, and Hiyo) at the north end of the Makassar Strait now. They are too late to catch most of the invasion force. I may move them past Balikpapan and hit Makassar, which is his staging area, though there is a lot of risk from enemy aircraft in those waters. I am not sure if that would be an good, aggressive move that he might not expect or a risky and futile gesture of revenge.

It might be smarter to try and anticipate his next move and wait for him to come to me. That leaves the question of where to place my fleet. From Balikpapan he can go two ways: west to attack the lightly defended bases in southern Borneo or north to attack Palembang. With the bulk of Borneo in the way I have to guess correctly if I am to try and intercept and stop either move. Air power alone isn’t going to stop an invasion, and in any case there are few torpedo bombers available until new units arrive in July.

Right now I am leaning towards covering the Java Sea. Palembang has to be protected. If I concentrate my forces and guess right I might be able to inflict a major defeat. If I guess wrong…well, it wouldn’t be the first time.

It’s interesting to me that I have not seen any sign of his carriers recently. None were evident at Balikpapan, even though because of my recent raid at Babo he knows the Japanese carriers are back and not too far away. My guess is he was counting on speed and surprise to protect his forces at Balikpapan (in which case he was correct).

Soerabaja: there has been very heavy air combat over Soerabaja for the past week. I sent some fighters to sweep Den Pasar, which did not work out well for me. I lost about 33 fighters to 10 or so Allied over two days. Then Q-Ball turned around and sent first a sweep and then waves of escorted B-25s and B-26s against Soerabaja. His losses have been fairly heavy, at least in fighters, as I have a lot of fighters there (A6M2s, Tojos, and Oscars IIa). I’ve lost maybe 20 planes on the ground but he has lost twice that many in air-to-air and ops losses and the airfield remains open. I’m pretty sure, though, that his goal was to keep my air force from interfering at Balikpapan, in which case he succeeded. Clever fellow, that Q-Ball.

Under the Sea: it is a rare turn now in which I do not lose a ship or two somewhere to Allied submarines. So far new construction is keeping ahead of the losses but eventually this will cripple my merchant fleet. Historically accurate, that, but grim to watch. On the plus side a Japanese sub sank an xAK in the Indian Ocean, my first sub kill in a couple of weeks.

One Japanese warship was also hit during this period when Takao took a single torpedo near Davao. The cruiser successfully made it to Singapore for a month of yard time.

Pacific: no action on the Pacific side to report. Japanese units on New Caledonia are falling back to Noumea, slowly pursued by Allied forces. There are signs of increased shipping around Port Moresby so Q-Ball may be preparing to take another shot at Milne Bay.



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RE: All Your Base - 3/19/2010 11:15:07 AM   
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Cuttlefish I´m always in awe how both, you and Q-ball seem to come to similar conclusions on the strategic situations.
First class strategists, both of you!
It´s great to see you fighting on and the skill you are doing it with.

On the Borneo situation I think you are correct leaning towards Java. He can go both ways but the real question is what happens when you lose.
Cutting off Java and closing on Singapore is probably more dangerous on the long run. You have a bit more space to manouvre if he chooses to
go east and the impact is not so brutal and so fast.



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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/19/2010 1:48:02 PM   
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How is your pool of both trained pilots and planes holding up?? If you could post screen shots or just the info, it would be appreciated by other Japanese players.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/19/2010 3:30:12 PM   
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CF, I don't understand why QBall would not just start to bomb your oil in Palembang or Soerjaba rather than risk so much trying to take them now? I would think that once he kills the oil facilities, the bases could be bypassed for a while at least. Your take on this?

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/19/2010 4:32:53 PM   
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crsutton I think they have a HR on that regard.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/19/2010 8:26:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

How is your pool of both trained pilots and planes holding up?? If you could post screen shots or just the info, it would be appreciated by other Japanese players.


Pilots, planes, and engines. It is almost a game within the game to bring all three together. I do spend some time managing this but I admit I don't micro-manage it. Here are how things look right now:

Pilots: right now Japan has about 7500 pilots who have graduated from flight school and are in the big pool (3200 IJN, 4300 IJA). There are 402 pilots in the reserve pools (304 IJN, 98 IJA). I'll post a screen shot below. This number is due to grow significantly as there are several training units in the Home Islands who are close to "graduating" their pilots, who will be sent to general reserve and replaced with rookies.

Engines: I have about 100 to 200 of most of the useful engine types in reserve. The exception is the Aichi Ha-60, of which there are over 1000. That one kind of got away from me. Production has been shut off (at least when the Judy comes on line next month it won't lack for engines!). I have expanded engine production more than any other kind of production. I'm usually pretty cautious about making large changes to production.

Planes, IJN:
A6M2 Zero - 177 in pool, production 87/month
A6M3a - 88 in pool, 24/month
B5N2 Kate - 100 in pool, 16/month
D3Y1 Val - 1 in pool, production off.
D3Y2 Val - 83 in pool, production off. The D4Y1 Judy begins production next month and I will build a lot of these. The Val pools will be replenished by units converting to the Judy.
Betty - 322 in pool, production is off. There are several new Betty units arriving in July, I will look at the pool in June and restart production then if necessary.

Planes, IJA:
Ki-44-IIa Tojo - 46 in pool, 32/month. Two units just converted to the Tojo so the pool is low right now.
Ki-43-IIa Oscar - 3 in pool, 32/month. I may need to increase production, as it has proved to be a very useful plane and units will probably be in service for some time to come.
Ki-32-Ic Oscar - 84 in pool, production is off.
Ki-21-IIb Sally - 82 in pool, 23/month.
Ki-49-IIa Helen - 63 in pool, 14/month. The Helen is my ground-attack bomber of choice. It seems to deliver more punch than the Sally. Sadly, there is little call for ground-attack missions these days.
Ki-48 Lily - 322 in pool, production is off. I have a lot of units of Lilys but have struggled to find a role for them in this game. In WITP they were my favorite plane for attacking enemy airfields but in AE they are almost useless even at low level. I have yet to find a mission they perform well. I suspect that they will make decent kamikaze attack planes and this may end up as their destined role.

The top of the reserve pilot pool screen:






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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/19/2010 8:49:27 PM   
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CF, I don't understand why QBall would not just start to bomb your oil in Palembang or Soerjaba rather than risk so much trying to take them now? I would think that once he kills the oil facilities, the bases could be bypassed for a while at least. Your take on this?


There's no house rule about that (that I remember, anyway). But Q-Ball cannot yet reach Palembang and Soerabaja is very well defended. I think he knows that almost all my fuel and oil comes out of Palembang and is pushing to establish air bases that will allow him to either knock out the facilities there or interdict my shipping. If he does this the war will be all but over. Japan's industry will grind to a halt within three months, maybe sooner.

4E bombers might be able to reach Palembang from Balikpapan, I haven't checked yet. But for a bombing campaign to be really effective he needs to be able to get fighters in range as well, which is why I expect him to try and move up the southern coast of Borneo next, unless he bites the bullet and invades Java directly.


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RE: All Your Base - 3/19/2010 9:37:27 PM   
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“The one vessel that most nearly symbolizes the history of the Navy in this war.”
- Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal, 1945, recommending that Enterprise be preserved

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3/25/1943 – 3/26/1943

On 25 March submarine I-37 found Enterprise only a couple of hundred miles from where I-155 found her over a year ago. History repeated itself and Enterprise took two torpedo hits.

The DEI is a rotten place to operate carriers.

This event both exposed Q-Ball’s carriers and forced them to withdraw (I-37 also took a shot at a CVE but missed). I therefore sent in my surface forces on the night of 26 March, all five of them, but Q-Ball got his ships out of Dodge in time. Only one intercept occurred and the only damage the Japanese ships did was to sink a sub chaser and put a torpedo into an xAP.

I am now going to swing my forces around Borneo to Singapore, and from there down to Batavia. There they will lurk, hopefully unseen, and wait to attack and with luck defeat Q-Ball’s next move. I would love it if Q-Ball thinks they have remained around Mindanao but he has a lot of submarines in the area and the move will probably be detected. I will count myself lucky if I can get all my ships to Singapore without any of them getting torpedoed.

Meanwhile Q-Ball sent another big air raid against Soerabaja. This one did not go well. He lost about ten fighters and ten 2E bombers at a cost of only three Japanese fighters. With luck he will not attack again for a turn or two. My fighters have performed admirably but the airfield has some holes in it and the pilots need rest.








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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/19/2010 10:12:51 PM   
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Cuttlefish, regarding a good use for Lily's. I find they make decent ASW aircraft at 2000ft. They seem quite good at suppressing enemy subs preventing them from getting attacks in on a regular basis against my transports. Try a few at choke points where Q-Ball's submarines have been active, you should spot more subs, and see a decline in attacks on your shipping...I hope. I find it's been working for me and they do score the odd bomb hit now and then.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/20/2010 9:08:41 PM   
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Hi Cuttlefish. Thanks for the great enjoyable AAR, too bad Hibiki didn't see too much of the action

I was just wondering, that it's interesting that the Helen IIa packs more punch than Sally IIa, since they pack the same kind of bomb armament, atleast in the "books". Helen still seems a nice choice however, because of the better protecting armament, armor and MAD and a slighty longer range.

Really tough to lose Balikpapan, I think that he got you to split your forces now. He could try to go towards Philippines and cut off the oil routes more efficiently, or if he gets northern and western Borneo bases he's in reach of Palembang I think. I think that attacking Mindanao is more slower, and he's still too far to directly mess with the oil lines, though that would force you to use Formosa straights for the tankers were he could mass the subs (on the other hand, it's more easy to supress them in the small area). I think the best situation is when you control the NW Oz bases and the islands south of Java. Then he needs to commit without LBA with his carriers, while you can mass your LBA to cover a pretty slim axis of advance.

How much PP's do you have? You might try to get a few divisions from Manchukuo to try and take Balikpapan back, since you likely put Enterprise out of the picture for a while. At the same time mass the air power in Mindanao and Java to try keep him from advancing at Celebes or Java seas. I think the key now is to contain him and try to get Balikpapan.

Either way, really tough situation since he's in so "deep". Hope you can long prolong the fight somehow and force the pesky Allies in the peace table

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 3/20/2010 11:59:11 PM   
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I know you are playing scn one so you get no production bonuses, but even so your a/c production seems to be on the low side, especially in terms of fighters.....you really need to start ramping up production of these now.

How many HI points do you have in reserve?

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RE: All Your Base - 3/23/2010 12:31:28 AM   
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We soldiers dig. We dig all day. This is the hole that we will fight and die in. Am I digging my own grave?
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3/27/1943 – 4/3/1943

Not much to report on the front lines this time around. It has been a quiet week. Even Noumea has been quiet, though Allied troops are massing at La Foa. Everywhere Japanese soldiers dig, dig, dig, trying to get those fort levels up before the Allies arrive.

The Japanese fleet is now at Batavia, as planned. And the move was spotted, as anticipated. I don’t think he knows exactly where my ships are but he knows their approximate location. Allied recon has been busy over the Java Sea and my own recon observes lots of Allied ships moving around Kendari and Makassar, though I haven’t seen anything yet that would tell me what move Q-Ball is planning next.

The air attacks against Soerabaja have stopped, though, and my defending fighter units have taken replacements are all at full strength again, with much recovered morale.

Under the Sea: Allied submarines cost me an xAK and a TK this week, actually a bad week for his subs. A Japanese submarine hit CLAA San Juan with a torpedo near Port Hedland.

Punch and Judy: Japan’s new airplane this month is the Judy. I have always had a high opinion of this dive bomber and the game’s stats seem to bear that out. The only thing that concerns me is the plane’s service rating of 3. I’m not sure that will be a big problem for carrier-based units, though, since they fly so infrequently (and rarely come back when they do). All carrier units will upgrade as soon as possible.

Tojo production has been increased to 64 a month. A6M2 production has been shut off, as has Lily and Nell production.


Here is the victory point screen for the end of March ’43. Yes, I still have a mammoth amount of political points available; these will be spent soon pulling units out of Manchukuo and China, buying air groups out of the Home Islands, and realigning my command structure to match my defensive deployments.





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The War Resumes - 4/6/2010 8:57:41 PM   
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Never give up! Never surrender!
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4/4/1943 – 4/14/1943

Q-Ball has returned from a long vacation and a quiet first half of April comes to an end as Allied forces invade undefended Ternate. It seems that both my opponent and his forces are rested and ready for fresh conquests.

CL Detroit and a pair of destroyers attempted to intercept a Japanese convoy bringing fresh troops to Davao. They missed the intercept and torpedo bombers sank Detroit. The two escorting DDs escaped, however, and gained revenge by attacking the fortunately now-unloaded transports, sinking a PB and an AP. A second AP, heavily damaged, was sunk by submarine the next day. The DDs also swiped a second small convoy that was just leaving the area, damaging all five ships.

Allied air attacks have been very heavy recently. These have been mostly aimed at Lae, Manado, and Noumea. He has not attacked at Noumea yet but his forces are gathering and it won’t be long. Japanese aircraft tried to interfere with the Ternate landing but no hits were scored and around 30 planes, mostly Zeros, were lost. I have brought a couple units of Tojos down and stationed them at Davao, so there are around 100 Japanese fighters there now.

It will be interesting to see what he tries after Ternate. It seems he is going north rather than west, which is what I wanted. Well, sort of. What I really want is for his forces to go away and leave me alone, but as this does not seem likely I must consider what his next targets will be. Manado presents a strong defense, and Davao is even stronger. Palambang and Jolo have decent garrisons but cannot resist a determined attack. He could also move northeast and attack Pelelieu and Babeldoab. That would be really bad but he knows that both bases have coast defense guns and he may not want to tangle with those. Not when there is easier prey available.

While Davao is strong there are a lot of other places on Mindanao he can land. Most good bases have at least some troops and level 3 forts but it would take a force half the size of the Kwangtung Army to garrison the island to a decent level.

Under the Sea: Allied subs have sunk a oiler and a couple of tankers in the past week. Japanese ASW forces avenged one of the tankers by sinking Lapon, the first Gato-class submarine lost. By and large, however, I am losing the ASW battle. My sub chasers are slowly gaining experience but most crews still have experience levels below 50 (they start at 35/35 or 45/45) and it is very hard for them to survive long enough to get better.

Rumor has it that starting sometime in ’44 Japan gets some good ASW vessels with well-trained crews. I fear that in this game that may come too late to help me much.

Suspicious Sighting: in the most recent turn an Allied task force was spotted west of Tabiteuea, heading northwest. An odd mix of ships was reported; CVEs, TKs, and APs. What is this force and where on earth is it going? There might be more task forces out there that I have not spotted, and this might be an attempt at Ocean Island or Nauru Island. I am sending the four CVLs and the Musashi battle group southeast from Truk to check it out and we will see what transpires. I have reason to think that Q-Ball’s main carrier force is defending the Ternate landing; if all he has are CVEs covering this force I might be able to do some damage.


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 4/6/2010 10:39:31 PM   
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If blood be the price of admiralty, Lord God, we ha’ paid in full!
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3/6/1943 – 3/11/1943

The Imperial Japanese Navy saw action again for the second time in a week, this time against Allied forces invading ungarrisoned Den Pasar, just off the tip of Java. I did not see this one en route but a scratch force built around BB Nagato was assembled and ordered to attack on the second night of the enemy invasion.

The Japanese force met a covering force of three enemy heavy cruisers. The Japanese had slightly the better of the resulting action, sinking DD Stuart and doing significant damage to CA Frobisher.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Den Passar at 58,108, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 5
CL Kinu
DD Yamagumo
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CA Exeter, Shell hits 1
CA Frobisher, Shell hits 7, on fire
CL Perth
CL Hobart
CL St. Louis
DD Mahan, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hull
DD MacDonough
DD Stuart, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Arunta


The important result was that the Allied force withdrew and the Japanese force proceeded on to attack and completely destroy the Allied invasion fleet:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Den Passar at 58,108, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 2
CA Ashigara
CL Kinu
DD Yamagumo
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki, heavy fires
DD Yuzuki, on fire

Allied Ships
DMS Zane, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
SC-708, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
SC-738, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Thomas Barry, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Esperance Bay, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
xAP Largs Bay, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
xAK Glenaffric, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
xAK Mahsud, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAP Felix Roussel, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Rangitata, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
718 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (5 destroyed, 8 disabled)


Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 17% moonlight: 11,000 yards


The two damaged Japanese destroyers, Kikuzuki and Yuzuki, came under attack by 25 Vindicators when the sun rose. CAP from Soerabaja shot down 9 of the attackers but the survivors sank the two destroyers. Den Pasar fell but the Australian brigade involved in the attack seems to have been mostly destroyed aboard ship.

Allied bombers, B-24s and B-25s, have been attacking Soerabaja for the last three days. They have destroyed about 20 planes on the ground at a cost of only about a dozen bombers shot down or crashed but the attacks are growing more feeble and the airfield is not heavily damaged. I expect Q-Ball will give up the attempt soon unless he can commit fighters to the operation. Early-war Japanese fighters are terrible at shooting down bombers but they do put a number of holes in them and the accumulated airframe damage seems to make sustained bombing rather difficult.

Koumac Falls: actually, I don’t know if there are any falls at Koumac. There might be. If there are, they are Allied falls now. Koumac fell on 11 March to the second Allied attack. The survivors are retreating to Noumea. It will probably take another week or two for Noumea to fall but New Caledonia is pretty well cut off by now and its fate is sealed. Allied ships are also off Babo, near the western end of New Guinea. The thing about Babo is that it can be easily hit by carrier planes from the Pacific ocean side. My carriers are currently at Truk and I am sending them over to see if they can attack the invasion force before it withdraws. It will probably take three days for them to reach attack position.

Under the Sea: Allied subs sank two of my TKs during the period, which I always hate to see. One of the attacks, SS Truant, was sunk by the convoy’s escorts off Singapore. Revenge is sweet and all that. Two xAKs were also damaged by sub attack, one off Kyushu and the other off northern Borneo. Both may or may not survive. Japanese subs had several contacts but did not make any successful attacks. Both the DEI and the Coral Sea/New Caledonia area are swarming with I-boats, though. My sub losses have been very light and so I have a lot of submarines in the water right now. Most of them are being employed defensively but I do have a few out looking for enemy shipping from the Aleutians to down around New Zealand.




Yes, I am not too happy with this aspect of surface warfare. It seems that esorting ships are too easily brushed aside and invasion forces just get creamed too often. Considering it is a night action and the Allied ships have radar, the Nagato force really was inferior force and the invasion force should have at least been protected or at least had time to build up steam and scatter. Even if the screening force lost, they should have provided some sort of protection. As it is now, sometimes the attacking forces gets nailed hard yet still makes it to the transports and wipes them out. Really, how often did this happen?


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 4/7/2010 12:09:43 AM   
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Yes, I am not too happy with this aspect of surface warfare. It seems that esorting ships are too easily brushed aside and invasion forces just get creamed too often. Considering it is a night action and the Allied ships have radar, the Nagato force really was inferior force and the invasion force should have at least been protected or at least had time to build up steam and scatter. Even if the screening force lost, they should have provided some sort of protection. As it is now, sometimes the attacking forces gets nailed hard yet still makes it to the transports and wipes them out. Really, how often did this happen?


I will say this about surface warfare in AE; it is unpredictable. Especially night combat. Sometimes a force that seems inferior, on paper at least, will win, or at least won't lose. Strange things can happen.

My own opinion is that this actually simulates reality pretty well. There are so many variables involved in surface combat that results don't tend to follow an easily predicted path; rather than a smooth curve of results what you end up with looks more like an application of chaos theory. But it is enough to make you tear your hair out in clumps when it works against you.




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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 4/7/2010 1:05:04 AM   
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CF,

I've tried having multiple SCTFs. Not sure how it works yet, but I figure it ups the odds that the enemy will have to go through more than one hard TF to reach the chewy center of an invasion force. I go with a heavy SCTF with BB/CA/DD and and light cover force (originally designed to deal with PTs, but now beefed up as an emergency surface action deterrent) with CL/DD. Finally, an ASW TF with 4DD.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back - 4/7/2010 6:58:52 PM   
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I have yet to have a covering SCTF stop an IJN SCTF--they go straight on through.  I have had at least one instance where a strong IJN CA & DD TF went through an Allied CA DD covering force, a DD covering force, 2 PT boat TFs and then into the transport TF and its escorts.  Of course, one event does not prove a rule, but I have gone back to strong escorts with the transports and limited reliance on covering forces.

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RE: The War Resumes - 4/9/2010 6:46:28 AM   
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To the end that prohibition of the use of submarines as commerce destroyers shall be accepted universally as part of the law of nations, the signatory powers herewith accept that prohibition as binding between themselves, and invite all other nations to adhere thereto.
- Washington Naval Treaty, 6 February 1922

4/15/1943 – 4/19/1943

There is no sign yet what Q-Ball’s next target will be. All the action the last few turns has consisted of Allied air raids and submarine activity on both sides, though Allied shells have begun to fall on Japanese positions at Noumea. I sent some Zeros on LRCAP over Lae from Rabaul last turn just to keep Q-Ball honest. I lost six Zeros against two or three Beaufighters and a Wildcat, though, so I probably will not do that very often.

Whatever that mystery task force was west of Tabiteuea turned around as soon as it was spotted and left Japanese waters quickly. My carriers and surface ships never came close to an interception and have returned to Truk.

Under the Sea: Allied subs sank an xAK during the period. Japanese subs in the DEI have spent the last two turns on a rampage, sinking an AD, an xAK, an AKE, and an AGP. The last two, Liberty Glo and Sirius, were both sunk by that scourge of the seas, I-155. That submarine has racked up an impressive score so far. The xAK was wandering around by itself in sub-infested waters and looked to be carrying armored vehicles.

Q-Ball’s subs also took a shot at an oiler but missed. He has his submarines staking out all the deep-water chokepoints between the DEI and the Home Islands and lurking two or three hexes off of all the busiest Japanese harbors. The Luzon Strait and the Formosa Strait are both infested, as are the waters both north and south of Mindanao and every point on the east side of the Philippines where Japanese ships can emerge after transiting the archipelago. Every Japanese convoy is at risk at some point and the ones that don’t lose a ship are lucky.

On the plus side he no longer seems to be staking out the waters around Sakhalin Island or Hokkaido. Japanese ships coming down from Port Arthur can make the entire passage in shallow water hexes so he doesn’t much bother with that either.

Reinforcements: a fresh Japanese division just disembarked at Batavia, having made the trip from Fusan without loss. That puts three divisions and three regiments on Java. A naval guard unit has just disembarked at Peleliu, while Babeldaob has been reinforced with two SNL units and a JAAF regiment.

I’ve been looking past Babeldoab at Yap and Ulithi. Both have had construction units for over a year but there are no real troops there yet. I need to find some. The forts there are good but that doesn’t mean squat unless there are soldiers to fill them.

Off-Topic But Kind of Cool: I live in Corvallis, Oregon. Corvallis is on the AE map because of nearby Camp Adair. Several infantry divisions trained there during the war and after the last one departed it was used as a POW camp. Today Camp Adair is Adair Village, population around 900, but during WWII it was the second-largest city in Oregon behind Portland.

All of this is background to the fact that while Adair Village is small, it is growing. The school there needs the land where the last two remaining barracks stand. Rather than tear them down the community is going to spend a considerable amount of money (and the economy in Oregon is not good right now) to move them and preserve them. One is going to be converted into a WWII history museum while exactly what the other will be used for is undecided – perhaps a community center.

I just thought that this effort deserved a bit of recognition. So much of our heritage from that era has been thrown away and lost that it almost breaks my heart. I’m glad they are making the effort to preserve even this small slice of it.

One of the barracks today:





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RE: The War Resumes - 4/11/2010 10:12:44 PM   
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Hello from a former Corvallis resident, Oregon State Univ 1975-1979. It's a great place to live.

Reading both AAR's so no comments other than to say I'm enjoying this AAR. Keep up the fight!

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RE: The War Resumes - 4/12/2010 1:59:56 AM   
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Cuttlefish,

In the photo-is it raining? How odd for Corvalis, Oregon...

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