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Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/9/2010 7:45:59 PM   
siRkid


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Status: offline 		I am far into the game and have about 20 planets and several Large Space ports but Destroyers and Cruisers do not show up on the build list. Anyone know why?

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/9/2010 7:49:09 PM   
ASHBERY76


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Status: offline 		From ingame help pedia.

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Construction Yards allow construction of new ships and bases. They also provide facilities for repair and retrofit of existing ships and bases. Construction Yard components are typically incorporated into space ports.

Higher construction technology levels produce Construction Yard components that build ships and bases faster.

Construction technology levels also limit the maximum size of ships or bases that can be built. When a new construction technology level is reached, ALL construction yards are automatically upgraded so that they can build LARGER ships and bases.

Maximum ship and base size construction levels relate to technology levels as follows:

· Level 1: Ship size 150, Base size 450 (Basic Ship Yard SY-100)

· Level 2: Ship size 200, Base size 600

· Level 3: Ship size 270, Base size 810 (Enhanced Ship Yard SY-200)

· Level 4: Ship size 350, Base size 1050

· Level 5: Ship size 450, Base size 1350 (Oversize Ship Yard SY-400)

· Level 6: Ship size 600, Base size 1800

· Level 7: Ship size 800, Base size 2400 (Titan Space Yard SY-800)

· Level 8: Ship size 1000, Base size 3000

· Level 9: Ship size 4000, Base size 12000 (Special construction technology bonus)

Colony construction yards
In addition to construction yards at space ports, each colony also has a single built-in construction yard for building bases, colony ships, resupply ships and construction ships. Colony ships, construction ships, resupply ships and space ports can ONLY be built at colony construction yards.

Note that bases built at colonies (e.g. space ports) are not subject to size restrictions. Any size base may be built at a colony, regardless of current construction technology level.


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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/9/2010 7:52:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the things you might want to do at first is to 'crash' the research for the first couple of levels of constuction to get yourself some bigger ships...or get lucky and find a superweapon....big if there.

Generally getting to level 6 to 7 is a big boost mid-game.

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/9/2010 8:17:38 PM   
Malevolence


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Status: offline 		Keep in mind hulls/role are free in DW -- with few limits placed on the role you choose. Cost/size is determined by the components you add. You can have a capital ship that is about size 60 at the start of the game. Have you noticed, however, the AI's reaction to the roles you choose? For a hoot, create a capital ship loaded with shields and armor to your construction limit. Send it in first. It makes a great damage tank while your high damage ships blast away enemy.

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/9/2010 8:24:11 PM   
Wade1000


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Status: offline 		Yeah, and don't forget a healer too.
Some lame dps keep bragging about their damage numbers and posting their recount score in chat window after every trash pull. Some lame dps pull before tank and then blame misfortunes on the tank and healer and then are surprised when we drop them from group.

Oops. Wrong game forum.

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/9/2010 8:32:08 PM   
Malevolence


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ORIGINAL: Wade1000

Yeah, and don't forget a healer too...



I don't fly a Guardian. You get immediately primaried.



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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/10/2010 12:23:40 AM   
Firehawk153

 

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ORIGINAL: ASHBERY76

From ingame help pedia.

quote:

Construction Yards allow construction of new ships and bases. They also provide facilities for repair and retrofit of existing ships and bases. Construction Yard components are typically incorporated into space ports.

Higher construction technology levels produce Construction Yard components that build ships and bases faster.

Construction technology levels also limit the maximum size of ships or bases that can be built. When a new construction technology level is reached, ALL construction yards are automatically upgraded so that they can build LARGER ships and bases.

Maximum ship and base size construction levels relate to technology levels as follows:

· Level 1: Ship size 150, Base size 450 (Basic Ship Yard SY-100)

· Level 2: Ship size 200, Base size 600

· Level 3: Ship size 270, Base size 810 (Enhanced Ship Yard SY-200)

· Level 4: Ship size 350, Base size 1050

· Level 5: Ship size 450, Base size 1350 (Oversize Ship Yard SY-400)

· Level 6: Ship size 600, Base size 1800

· Level 7: Ship size 800, Base size 2400 (Titan Space Yard SY-800)

· Level 8: Ship size 1000, Base size 3000

· Level 9: Ship size 4000, Base size 12000 (Special construction technology bonus)

Colony construction yards
In addition to construction yards at space ports, each colony also has a single built-in construction yard for building bases, colony ships, resupply ships and construction ships. Colony ships, construction ships, resupply ships and space ports can ONLY be built at colony construction yards.

Note that bases built at colonies (e.g. space ports) are not subject to size restrictions. Any size base may be built at a colony, regardless of current construction technology level.



Been wondering, the Level 9 construction tech...I'm guessing that has to be "found" as an artifact and can't be developed?

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/10/2010 4:37:16 PM   
siRkid


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Status: offline 		I don't see what everone is talking about. Can someone post a SS showing this verbage?

Level 1: Ship size 150, Base size 450 (Basic Ship Yard SY-100)

· Level 2: Ship size 200, Base size 600

· Level 3: Ship size 270, Base size 810 (Enhanced Ship Yard SY-200)

· Level 4: Ship size 350, Base size 1050

· Level 5: Ship size 450, Base size 1350 (Oversize Ship Yard SY-400)

· Level 6: Ship size 600, Base size 1800

· Level 7: Ship size 800, Base size 2400 (Titan Space Yard SY-800)

· Level 8: Ship size 1000, Base size 3000

· Level 9: Ship size 4000, Base size 12000 (Special construction technology bonus)
Basic Ship Yard SY-100

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/10/2010 5:02:16 PM   
Shark7


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Status: offline 		Kid, when you go into the ship design screen, it should say in the top left corder (going from memory here, at work ATM) it should tell you the largest size of ship you can build. I don't remember the exact location, though, someone might be able to post a screen of it for you.

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/10/2010 5:10:02 PM   
freeboy

 

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Status: offline 		as your e expands and grows, your bases will become able to make larger ships... this is bases on TECH level..

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/10/2010 5:45:50 PM   
HsojVvad

 

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Status: offline 		Well with the latest patch, I have noticed that if I am over of my building capacity, that the size indicator turns yellow and telling me that I don't have the capacity to build this ship.

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/10/2010 9:36:43 PM   
siRkid


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ORIGINAL: freeboy

as your e expands and grows, your bases will become able to make larger ships... this is bases on TECH level..



Thanks I found it and then I must have researced the right tech. I wish there was a Tech Tree to look at and plan from.

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/11/2010 2:42:47 AM   
Mestor

 

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ORIGINAL: Kid

I am far into the game and have about 20 planets and several Large Space ports but Destroyers and Cruisers do not show up on the build list. Anyone know why?


One thing you might check, if you have the designs automated:

You should be able to build destroyers with your starting tech, if you can't build them double check your destroyer design and make sure it is <200 size. Sometimes the Automated ship designer (in 1.02 anyway) would make a ship design too large for your shipyards to build.

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RE: Why Can't I Build Destroyers and Cruisers - 4/11/2010 8:53:16 AM   
Astorax

 

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ORIGINAL: Malevolence


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wade1000

Yeah, and don't forget a healer too...



I don't fly a Guardian. You get immediately primaried.




Malevolence, you play Eve, too?

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