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RE: Darwin Invaded - 4/13/2010 1:47:53 PM   
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Orders are passed among the merchantmen to immediately cease unloading operations. The convoy will depart immediately for Pearl Harbor. The USN isn't sharing why this order has been given, though the sailors can guess that the Japanese must've been detected. The fact is that there are reports of IJN carriers in the vicinity of Wake Island and nobody wants to wait and find out if the reports are accurate and if the Japanese are heading towards Midway. Cookie and Red talk of the what ifs and try to keep as busy as possible rather than fret about something totally out of their control.

“Red,” the newest crew member says, “You survived a sinking, what was it like?”

Red shrugs and answers, “You don't want to know or ever have to find out. Besides I was asleep one moment and the next I was in the water so what do I know....” Red's voice trails off and his thoughts return to being alone in the water before he was picked up by the Tarpon. He wonders how the men of that sub are doing and if they're still alive.

The submarine Drum is on patrol about 300 miles W of Wake Island and has gotten herself into a perfect position to attack an IJN CVTF. She fires her torpedoes and undetected by the Japanese, silently slips away after the sonar man reported to hear two “thumps.” A dejected exec makes a note in the log that they scored two probable hits, but the fish didn't explode. The crew's morale suffers as they wonder why they are being sent in harm's way with weapons that don't work.

Near Brisbane the IJN sub I-171 has been detected and is repeatedly attacked by Walrus, Swordfish and Hudson aircraft. Nobody can claim to have a kill, but an oil slick is reported in the water.

Another IJN sub has been detected 25 miles E of Brisbane and it is attacked and forced to dive. Further patrols reveal nothing and an inbound convoy has been rerouted.

The artillery duels continue at Darwin and today saw the Japanese (66K) assault the Australian (31.3K) positions. The attack is repulsed with the Japanese losing 1552/52/1 and the Aussies 519/14/0. Pete's MG prevented his unit from being overrun, but they have suffered a few dead and many wounded.

Pete's loader says, “Pepper, we'll make a proper soldier out of you yet. Hell, you're a natural born gunner, a real killer, you are. If they come again our goose is cooked because we have all of about half a belt of ammunition left.”

Later that night orders are passed that the men should fall back to new positions as they are to few to cope with their current line of defense. Upon arrival at the new positions the men are pleased to see that they've been reinforced with the remnants of another provisional unit. While they hungrily eat their ammo is resupplied and most pleasing of all is that they now have a MG on each of their flanks.

“The bloody Nips just kept advancing on us. We dropped them like flies, but they just kept coming. I tell you it was crazy, they're not afraid of anything. How the hell are we supposed to beat an enemy like that?” The man is drinking a cup of tea with great difficulty as his hands shake uncontrollably. The men are all in a deplorable mental state as only a few weeks ago none of them could've imagined being in a situation like this with the demands being made of them beyond their wildest imagination. “Were is the bloody relief column?”

Today's report was filed by one of Ed's aides and it reads:
22 ER is at Mishan
20 RCB is at Mandalay
88K troops are at Pescadores
4 A is at Harbin
4.6K troops are at Hanoi

The artillery exchanges around Chungking continue with the Japanese getting the worst of it. More troops continue to pour into the area for both sides as the Japanese appear to be making a serious bid to take the city which the Chinese will defend at all costs.

At Sian the artillery bombardments are going better for the Japanese and though this area appears to be less important both sides have amassed large forces to contest the city.

Ed and Bill Donovan sit at the ballpark and see the Senators defeat the Yankees by a 4-3 score. When they leave after the game the men enjoy a light meal together talking about the events swirling around them. Ed tells Bill about the new interlocking convoy system that was introduced on the 1st . This is for the US eastern seaboard, Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. He also mentions that on the 2nd convoy Pedestal left the UK for Malta. This convoy is made up of 14 fast merchantmen loaded with food, fuel and ammunition. It is being escorted by 2 BBs, 3 CVs, 3 CLAAs and 14 DDs. Bill doesn't mention that Winston Churchill will be visiting the British 8th Army tomorrow as nobody is supposed to know about this. The OSS is slowly getting better at it's job.




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RE: Darwin Invaded - 4/13/2010 8:28:26 PM   
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He also mentions that on the 2nd convoy Pedestal left the UK for Malta. This convoy is made up of 14 fast merchantmen loaded with food, fuel and ammunition. It is being escorted by 2 BBs, 3 CVs, 3 CLAAs and 14 DDs.


13 merchies and a tanker, the SS Ohio. She will deliver arguably the most valuable cargo ever unloaded by a single ship -- and sink at her moorings immediately afterward. There is also a fourth CV, but she is carrying planes to transfer to Malta, and can't put up CAP.

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RE: Darwin Invaded - 4/14/2010 10:37:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		The TK Ohio features in a few well know photos.  How she ever delivered her cargo is a wonder and tribute to her crew.

I see that Steve have awakened from his slumber with the AAR and is up to Dili falling to his nefarious troops.  You have to forgive him as he juggles a family, work and construction on his home.

I'm about 2 months behind the game in this AAR.


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RE: Darwin Invaded - 4/15/2010 4:37:42 PM   
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The master of the AS Zuiderdruis has decided to take his already damaged vessel and leave Darwin. He thinks that sitting in Darwin's harbor and waiting to be sunk is an option that's not to his liking so a dash for the safety of open water and the chance of escape is taken. On the 4th under the cover of darkness the ship made her run and is now about 190 miles NE of Wyndham. At about 0900 a lookout yells that he's spotted planes approaching from the north and the crew scrambles to their battle stations. 25 X Zero and 25 X Val bore in on the helpless ship and by the time they are done with her no less than 10 bombs have struck the Zuiderkruis. She's listing heavily to port, having suffered heavy damage and is on fire so her skipper does the only thing he can, orders the crew to abandon ship. Ten minutes later the ship, with her broken keel, breaks in two and both sections slide beneath the still water. The survivors are in a raft or clinging to it's side and they will now try to make for the coast which is only about 12 miles away.

The IJN bombards Darwin, doing light damage and suffering some return fire from the coastal batteries.

The artillery duels continue throughout the day and the Aussies dig ever deeper while the exposed Japanese suffer heavier loses. The supply situation is getting to be more of a concern by the day. Pete and the rag tag group that he's part of are informed that they'll be on half rations from now on.

“Like they've been feeding us so well of late,” remarks one of the men.

Near Brisbane a Dutch ASW TF is attacked by the I-171. The torpedoes miss and the Dutch counter with a viscous attack of their own, claiming 2 hits. Later that day a search plane claims to have seen an oil slick where the encounter took place and another plane spots a Japanese sub that's leaking and leaving a oil slick.

Meanwhile an Allied force is heading towards Darwin and it's being joined by additional units swelling it's strength. The distance to be marched is great and their orders are vague at this point in time.

At Imphal 21 X Zero and 32 X Tony sweep the airfield and are met by 26 X P-36A and 12 XP-40E. After brief, but intense battle the Japanese retire having lost 2 X Tony and another one was trailing smoke. The Allied force has been ravaged as they lost 8 X P-36A and 1 damaged and 5 X P-40E were downed while another was damaged.

The intel report submitted by Ed's office today read:

57.1K troops are at Tsitsihar
6.69K troops are at Bonin
12 AAR is at Peking
20 A is at Heiho
31 RCB is at Changchun
6.9K troops are at Shimuzu
11 HAAB is at Kobe
10 TR is at Mutanchiang
45 RCB is at Chiamussu
9 AFCB is at Bankha

Artillery exchanges raged around Sian and the Chinese are suffering for it.

At Chungking there are constant barrages being thrown at the opposing forces and the Japanese are getting the worst of it.

The crew of the Palawan are becoming more relaxed with each passing mile they put between themselves and Midway Island. They don't envy the troops there at all.

In Europe the 1 Pz Army has taken Voroshilovsk and the Soviet forces are reeling.

At this point in time the Japanese have amassed 16,162 VPs while the Allies have 4,507.






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RE: Darwin Invaded - 4/17/2010 5:33:54 PM   
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FDR reads the intel reports that are piled up on the Oval Office desk.

16 A is at Rabaul
24 AAR is at Nagasaki
68 CB is at Hamamatsu
7 TR is at Port Moresby
6 TR is at Kendari

Heiho 5 LCUs 45160/541/21
Arshaan 1 LCU 5360/58/0
Chiamussu 6 LCUs 24360/287/71
Tabun-Nur 1 LCU 1160/17/0
Rangoon 80 fighters, 112 bombers, 174 aux, 14 LCUs 45420/482/16
Derby 1 LCU 3020/11/0

The British have started supplying Spitfires to face the Japanese.

Franklin mutters to himself about it being about time that the Soviets started sharing intel reports. His advisers have informed him that the Red Army is still getting badly hammered by the Germans, but that they should begin to solidify their lines in the not to distant future, if for no other reasons than the length of the German supply lines and sheer numbers.

The submarine Pollack attacks a Japanese convoy twice near Darwin, but the fish are duds. The only good news for the sub is that they manage to evade the Japanese efforts to locate them.

The artillery exchanges at Darwin are increasingly heavy and the Japanese are still getting the worst of it. Allied supply stocks are dropping alarmingly and the defenders are on short rations.

“Pepper, do you want that?” a man asks pointing to a stale piece of bread.

“As much as I'd like to say that you can have it, I suppose I'll feast on it instead.” Pete slowly eats the rations and remembers cheeseburgers. “I'd love to have a blueberry pie for desert,” he remarks.

The Japanese haven't come at them for 2 days now and the men are wondering what's up. The number of Japanese troops continues to grow, while the defensive force is dwindling.

At Imphal a Japanese fighter sweep of 33 X Zero and 22 X Tony is challenged by 14 X Spitfire, 13 X P-36A and 9 X P-40E. A lone Babs, as usual, manages to slip by to recon the base unmolested. The sky if filled with planes climbing, diving, twisting and turning. From the ground it looks like a ballet, a deadly one. Once the fighting is over 2 X Zero and 9 X Tony have been shot down while the Allies lost 3 X Spitfire, 2 X P-36A and 2 X P-40E. A P-40E manages to limp back to base and when the pilot climbs out of the cockpit he marvels that the plane didn't fall apart in midair, it's so shot up. His crew chief just shakes his head and says that it'll take a while to get the bird back into the air.

At Chungking the big guns boom all day and night and the Chinese are still managing to inflict heavier casualties on the Japanese that they are suffering.

In the Sian area the story is different as the Japanese bombardment is heavy, accurate and deadly.

The Palawan's convoy continues towards Pearl without incident. Red and Cookie are conferring about their business venture and bemoaning that the war interferes with their plans, though their pay is excellent.

Bill now busies himself reviewing convoy orders, cargo loads and unit transport orders. It's boring work and he does find conflicts, but it's better than having nothing to do while he waits, literally, for his ship to come in.

Gunny waits to join his new unit, the 2 Marine Division, and he checks on the whereabouts of the Palawan only to be told that she's at sea.

The Pirates now know that they'll be shifted to the ETO as the OSS needs aircrews to insert agents by parachute onto the continent. They grumble that they should be paid by the mile as their travels never seem to end.


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RE: Darwin Invaded - 4/17/2010 9:54:22 PM   
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The artillery exchanges at Darwin are increasingly heavy and the Japanese are still getting the worst of it. Allied supply stocks are dropping alarmingly and the defenders are on short rations.

“Pepper, do you want that?” a man asks pointing to a stale piece of bread.

“As much as I'd like to say that you can have it, I suppose I'll feast on it instead.” Pete slowly eats the rations and remembers cheeseburgers. “I'd love to have a blueberry pie for desert,” he remarks.


Isn't it about time for the cavalry to coming galloping over the hill?

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RE: Darwin Invaded - 4/19/2010 4:25:00 PM   
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Ed is at his desk with his feet up on the desk talking into the phone. “Of course it's a concern, but we just don't have anything more concrete than that. Yes, I still believe that the Japanese will move into the Aleutians. Because they want to push back our forward bases as far from their home as possible. To slow us down when we start our advance is why. OK, yes sir. It's on it's way in 1 minute.” He hangs up the phone and summons an orderly, hands him the intel report for today and says, “Take this on it's way to the usual destination please. Thanks.”

24 K troops are at Kanazawa
5.3K troops are at Nagasaki
15 AAR is at Nagoya
17 A is at Tulagi
213K troops are at Changkufeng
6.6K troops are at Bonin
53 D is at Osaka
16 AAR is at Manila
Sasebo 8 NLF is at Hanoi

There are 3 LCUs at Tarawa made up of 15040/870/.

At Derby recon flights report 2 LCUs of 3360/15/0.

The submarine Tautog has finished repairs and is now making ready for sea.

Palawan's convoy is nearing French Frigate Shoals and the men are beginning to relax. A card game is going on in the crew's sleeping quarters and as Red watches with more than a little interest another man quietly removes a pinup from the bulkhead at Red's bunk, crumples and shreds it a bit leaving the tattered remnants on the bunk.

A convoy unloading at Luganville was spotted, but it will finish the job before retiring to Noumea.

In the Chungking area the Chinese and Japanese continue to pound each other's positions with the Japanese still suffering more.

At Sian it's the Chinese getting hammered by the Japanese big guns.

64 miles NE of Darwin the submarine S-23 spots a convoy and attacks it but misses.

Near Darwin an IJN ASWTF attacks the sub KXV II and causes considerable damage to the sub. The only thing that saves her is that it's a dark night and when she surfaces she manages to slip away.

The IJN again bombards Darwin causing light damage and the CA Haguro is hit 5 times by the coastal guns.

The artillery continues to rain down on both sides of the lines, but the intensity of the Japanese bombardment is growing while the defenders is beginning to wane.

Pete leans back in the bunker wondering if he'll live through the hell that he finds himself in. A new man has joined them as an assistant loader and no sooner than he arrived the artillery shells rained down on their area. The man curled up in a ball, shaking and when it was over he had soiled his pants. Pete said, “Don't be ashamed as we're all scared out of our wits. Go to the battalion area and see if you can get a shower and another pair of pants.” That was 5 hours ago and Pete is wondering what's taking the new guy so long to return.

Later that night his loader is talking and says, “Pepper, that new guy won't be back as he bought it when the rear area got pounded. It's still just you, me and our lovely killing machine. Where the hell is that relief column?”

Australian and American units are heading towards the Japanese from Perth, Alice Springs and Townsville. Their advance is hampered by the vast distances. The 754 USA Tank Battalion is leading the way for the main force.

The BOQ at Mare Island is filling up as new officers arrive. They will be joining new ships arriving soon and then be on their way. Bill is envious, but then again Laffey, if she ever gets here, he thinks will soon be mine. The men decide after eating lunch to head into San Francisco and take in the sights. Since Bill has nothing better to do he joins them as the unofficial tour guide.





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RE: Battle of Darwin - 4/21/2010 1:36:23 AM   
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The submarine S-23 spots a Japanese convoy approaching Darwin and she promptly attacks it, putting a torpedo into the side of a AP, which causes heavy damage and fires. The IJN escorts immediately locate and attack the sub, but they do nothing more that rattle the nerves of those aboard S-23.

The Japanese land more troops at Darwin, suffering light casualties and then they assault the defenders with 70K troops. The Australians number 30.3K and they manage to repulse the attack though the fortifications have been damaged. The Japanese lost 1003/63/1 and the Aussies 1016/16/0.

Pete's units positions have somehow managed to hold, but they have suffered more dead and wounded and can't man their positions effectively any longer. The order to pull back to new positions is given and the men are pleased to get a luke warm meal upon their arrival. They are told that though they are being given a large amount of ammunition there are no promises being made when they will get more.

“See, I keep telling you that the blokes in charge of this army want us throwing rocks at the Nips. Where the hell is that bloody relief force? Do they really expect us to hold forever?” The man's nerves are shot and he's not alone. Combat fatigue is something that these defenders don't have the luxury of combating. There are no reinforcements and the reserves are being used to plug holes in the lines. There will be no rest for Pete and his battered unit, just more combat until one side or the other wins the Battle of Darwin.

The Cuttlefish has refueled at Dutch Harbor and heads west for another boring patrol.

Japanese artillery slams into the Chinese positions around Sian causing moderate casualties.

The Japanese, numbering 198K, assault Chungking's defenses, which are manned by 181K Chinese. The attack was driven back and the Japanese paid dearly today for their attempt losing 3792/253/8. The Chinese lost 368/4/0 and the Chinese generals know that these kind of attacks can not be sustained by the Japanese. They all seem to agree that the activity at Sian is only a distraction and that Chungking is the key to China. It appears that both sides are prepared to do whatever it takes to control Chungking. The Chinese have decided to dispatch additional units to defend the city.

Andaman Island was invaded and fell to the Japanese. An AP hit 2 mines suffering heavy damage and fires.

At Imphal 21 X Zero arrived to sweep the base and were met by 17 X Spitfire, 9 X P-36A and 7 X P-40E. Both sides suffered heavy loses with the Japanese losing 10 X Zero and the Allies 4 X Spitfire, 4 X P-36A and 2 X P-40E with another 2 damaged.

The intel report today read:

3 RAAR is at Matsue
52 D is at Kanazawa
22 NLF is at Banjarmasin
50 CB is at Kyoto
13 BF is at Amboina
1.9K troops are at Naha
3 AAR is at Tokyo
43K troops are at Sakashima
5 A is at Tsitsihar

Bill and his new pals headed into San Francisco again today as none of the men had anything to do so they enjoyed a Tuesday on the town.

The Pirates are on their way to San Francisco aboard a B-17 being used as a long range transport.

Yesterday General Gott's plane was shot down and Montgomery was placed in command of the British 8th Army.

Eisenhower established HQs in the United Kingdom today.


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RE: Battle of Darwin - 4/21/2010 8:18:27 PM   
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At Imphal 21 X Zero arrived to sweep the base and were met by 17 X Spitfire, 9 X P-36A and 7 X P-40E. Both sides suffered heavy loses with the Japanese losing 10 X Zero and the Allies 4 X Spitfire, 4 X P-36A and 2 X P-40E with another 2 damaged.


Might be time to stand down the P-36's. How many of the pilots were lost?

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RE: Battle of Darwin - 4/23/2010 5:17:31 PM   
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The Japanese continue to land additional troops and the Australian coastal guns bark in their disapproval causing moderate Japanese casualties and hitting an IJN DD.

The Allied forces trade artillery barrages with he Japanese batteries. The IJN makes an appearance and bombards the base facilities causing moderate damage.

The Japanese launch an assault that is made up of 9K troops. It was easily repulsed by the 29K defenders.

“Damned Japs have to always pick us for their attacks? It's like they know that we're not the soldiers and are picking on us purposely.” The man takes another bite of his chow and continues, “As if that wasn't bad enough they feed us this whatever it is? This garbage isn't fit for human consumption.”

The men laugh, but they feel the same way. How many more times can they throw the Japanese back they wonder. How much more ground can they afford to give? Here in the hell is the promised relief?

“Stop your complaining,” says Pete, “You thought the food would be first class? Hell, I'm happy for something to stick to my ribs and plenty more ammo. Our friends will be back again as sure as this war will still be going on tomorrow. Why if I got paid a nickel for every Jap I've killed I'd be a rich man by now.” The men have a laugh at this and some of them throw things at Pete, who ducks out of the way. “Damned if I understand how I, a citizen of the United States of America, get stuck fighting with you Aussies. Hell, I won't even mention that without me who knows where you'd be now without me to save you.” The chuckling becomes roaring laughter among the men.

Near Darwin the Dutch submarine KXV attacks some IJN DDs, but misses. A little while later, with skillful maneuvering the sub is able to attack a convoy and scores 3 hits on an AP which breaks in two and is burning furiously. The stricken ship sinks and the escorts pounce on the sub. The hunter is now the hunted and she tries to stealthily escape. The escorts repeatedly attack and do some light systems damage to the sub. KXV escapes and her skipper orders a course set for Brisbane, where they can make repairs and replenish.

Near Baker Island a USN ASW TF detects and attacks the IJN sub I-6. They claim multiple hits, but there is no confirmed kill.

The artillery battles at Sian and Chungking continue to rage and the Chinese continue to be happy they have fortifications to hide in.

The Benham has been ordered to make for Auckland where she will undergo some upgrades to her capabilities. The crew looks forward to seeing a new port of call and getting away from a combat area for what they believe to be a safe one.

The Tarpon is now in Brisbane and her crew savor some time ashore. “I can't wait to have a hot shower where I can actually turn around and extend my arms,” says one man. Another answers with, “We can't wait for you to have a good shower too. Women, good food, women and booze is what I want. Did I mention women?” The men continue to joke around as it's their best way of relieving the tensions of war.

The Palawan's convoy is expected to reach Pearl Harbor tomorrow. Red and Cookie intend on heading to the bank as soon as they can.

“You gonna' to get in touch with Gunny?” asks Cookie.

“Yeah, I'm going to try after we handle our business. Maybe the Marines can tell me where he is as I sure as hell wouldn't know where to begin looking. ” Red scratches Lucky's head and the dog stretches enjoying the rubbing. Red reflects on what he's been through so far in this war. It seems that the whole world went crazy and though it's only been since last December it feels like forever to him. Well at least he's got Cookie and Lucky and for that he's thankful.

Ed's report today was a rehash of the same old stuff. He has been wondering when Moscow will start sending the expected reports.

17 RCAR is at Niigata
12 CB is at Batan Island
28 NLF is at Muntok
8 TR is at Kendari
Kure 6 NLF is a Rabaul
132 IJN BF is at Tulagi
6.8K troops are at Toyohara
5K troops are at Songkhia
54 D is at Okayama
1 MR is at Amoy
48 D is at Port Moresby

Recon flights over Taung Gyi revealed 1 LCU is there and it is made up of 680/0/0.
Overflights of Derby have shown that there are 2 LCUs there of 3340/13/0.
Recon of Apamama have shown an empty area.

There are still no solid signs of any Japanese intentions, though Ed still believes that the Aleutians will be hit. He thinks about how FDR accepted what Ed advised and that now the Aleutians would take a major effort by the Japanese. Would those remote islands be worth such an effort, he wonders. How many times in the annals of war have important battles been fought over previously unheard of places that had no importance until that moment in time.

The Allies have decided that since there aren't adequate fighters in adequate numbers that they will continue to use what they've got to carry on with the fight. The British are shipping Spitfires to India and the US has been trying to build up stocks of P-40Es, but loses have been hard to keep up with. In less than 2 months the P-38G will be delivered and then it's just a question of how fast a stockpile of these planes can be built up before throwing them into combat.



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RE: Battle of Darwin - 4/25/2010 2:14:46 PM   
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The Dutch submarine KXV tries to attack a convoy near Darwin, but is driven off by the escorts. Her skipper is heard to be grumbling something about being tied down to such a restricted patrol area making it easier for the Japanese escorts and harder for the subs.

Artillery exchanges occur throughout the day, but there are no attacks made by the Japanese and the Australians are content to sit in their defensive positions.

Pete and his fellow sufferers take the opportunity to clean their weapons and to relax as much as one can in a combat zone. They talk of home and one of the men who lives in Darwin becomes silent at the thought of his family and not knowing if they are safe or not. The men realize what's going on and the topic is changed and the joking around begins anew.

The 754th Tank Battalion has been ordered to move towards Darwin with all possible speed as of 0500 tomorrow. The objective, the men assume, is to reopen the supply lines and allow follow on forces to move into Darwin. It will be a busy night for the maintenance crews as they check and recheck the unit's tanks and other vehicles. The mechanics don't have the high profile combat roles, but they know who enables the unit to do it's job. The Stuarts will lead the way followed by the rest of the unit. The men will, for the most part, find it difficult to sleep tonight so more than one vehicle's crew is working late alongside the mechanics.

The TK Tulsagas and the AP Tasker H Bliss left Auckland, bound for Pearl Harbor today. The two ships have had most of their repairs completed and the remainder will be done at Pearl. Prior to leaving each ship's company was assembled and they were told that under no circumstances, with no excuses, were they allowed to speak about what happened to the convoy that they sailed with that was intercepted by the Japanese. They were told that the most severe penalties under wartime acts would be applied to any violation of this order. They are not allowed to speak of those days at all for the indefinite future. The men silently nod their heads when asked if they understand.

Tautog left San Diego today and is making for Pearl Harbor.

The intel report for today still lacks input from the Soviets. The White House assures the Pentagon that the State Department is doing all that it can to get things rolling.

7 D is at Sapporo
12 HAAB is at Nagoya
22 AAR is at Kitakyushu
3 RAAR is at Matsue
6 RTR is at Osaka
5.3K troops are at Nagasaki
1.9K troops are at Tinian
11 AAR is at Osaka
40 CB is at Changchun
16 MB is at Homan
2 Air D is at Harbin
4.3K troops are at Sakashima
40.4K troops are at Mutanchiang

The artillery bombardments continue at both Chungking and Sian, with the Japanese suffering heavier casualties.

Yesterday the 1 Pz Army took the Maikop oilfields that were left burning by the retreating Red Army.

The Pedestal convoy reached Gibraltar today as was reinforced by 1 X CV (the 4th mentioned by Capt. Harlock),, 3 X CA and 11 X DD. Now the tough part of the journey begins.

Bill and his cohorts kill time shooting the breeze, playing cards, going into town and doing what young men at war do when they have the time to do what they might never be able to do again.





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RE: Battle of Darwin - 4/27/2010 1:31:46 PM   
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Pete's sleep is broken by the sounds or the coastal guns firing at Japanese ships. He takes a look and can see smoke. If he were still in the old positions he would see that a DD and an AP had been hit with the later burning. The Japanese are still landing more troops and they take moderate loses as they come over the beach. The rumble of artillery grows louder and the scream of shells announces that they are being targeted again. For over an hour the shells hit their positions and suddenly it's quiet.

“Oh crap,” one of the men shouts, “This means big trouble lads. Watch your front because any moment now they'll be hitting us again.”

Sure enough small arms fire erupts and the Japanese rush the men's positions. The fighting is fierce and chaotic and when it finally ends another attack has been thrown back. Orders are given to withdraw to new positions as the defensive perimeter is constantly shrinking. Pete's machine gun is a casualty of the heavy use and lack of maintenance so he grabs a rifle and two ammo boxes as they pull back.

“Pepper how the hell are we ever going to survive this mess if you're going to fight with that?” his loader asks.

“Don't fret, I plan on throwing grenades at the Japs from now on,” Pete replies, “I've had plenty of experience playing baseball as a kid and my throwing arm is pretty good.” He winks and they trudge off.

The Japanese assault was made with a force of 74.3K troops and their loses were 660/26/0. The Australians are down to a force of 29K men and they lost 1626/31/1. The fortifications also suffered in the attack and things are looking very grim. The men are hungry, thirsty and tired. Where is the promised help?

The 754th Tank Battalion rumbled off as planned into the predawn darkness and has been making excellent time on their road march. The Stuarts are leading the way as anything lighter won't be able to deal with the expected resistance a little further down the line. The only so far slowing the advance is the lack of speed of the Grants.

Ed is leaving the office when a familiar voice says, “How about a bite to eat and a little friendly banter?”

Ed doesn't even turn to look as he replies, “OK, let's shove off then.”

In their usual Georgetown eatery Bill Donovan reads the daily intel report that Ed brought with him.

5.9K troops are at Niigata
11 AAR is at Osaka
4 ER is planning for Darwin
2 RAAR is at Tokyo
4.9K troops are at Kitakyushu
52 CB is at Changchun
5 ER is at Port Moresby
4 A is at Harbin
50 CB is at Kyoto
9 AFCB is at Bankha

Artillery exchanges continue around Chungking and the Chinese are beginning to suffer increasingly heavy casualties as the Japanese continue to pour more units into the area. The amount of troops on both sides in this area is reaching number previously unseen in the China area.

At Sian things are a little more stable as the Chinese retain the upper hand in the artillery duels.

Recon flights have shown that there are:

3 LCUs at Tarawa consisting of 21320/92/0
2 LCUs at Wyndham made up of 10460/32/0
10 LCUs at Tulagi totaling 19040/209/6
7 LCUs at Heiho consisting of 25760/333/7

The last item causes Donovan to raise an eyebrow and remark, “Well finally our Soviet friends share a tidbit with us. I don't believe that you've gotten a sniff of this yet, but today a U-boat spotted the Pedestal convoy and it's expected that the Germans and Italians will throw the kitchen sink at it.”

The two men continue to dine in silence thinking about the events swirling around them. In the meantime the Germans and Italians are moving 21 subs, 800 planes, 23 torpedo boats and Italian naval units into position to attack Pedestal. The ride home is quieter than usual and as Ed exists the car Donovan says, “Do you think that Darwin will be relieved in time?”

Ed shrugs his shoulders and replies, “Only time will tell. Good night Bill. Thanks for dinner.”

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RE: Battle of Darwin Drags On - 4/28/2010 6:43:34 PM   
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The Japanese continue to land more troops at Darwin. The big guns never seem to stop and another assault occurs when they finally do. The Japanese hit hard with 64.4K troops, suffering loses of 313/11/1 while the Aussies lose 385/6/0 out of their force of 27.1K. The attack was thrown back and the artillery starts throwing shells again.

Pete has managed to get himself nicked by the Japanese in the last attack. He rose up to toss a grenade and managed to get shot for his effort. Luckily for him the bullet just grazed his arm, though the wound burns he'll be fine. The men of the squad are all teasing their Yank about his bleeding for Australia and how he was a better machine gunner than grenade tosser. They also tease him about managing to get shot and still not being able to get out of combat. They eat and those who can nod off to sleep.

“Would you look at Davey over there,” says a man, “I'll bet he could drop off to sleep anywhere, any time and only take an instant to do it. Bless the bum, I'm jealous.”

The Dutch Sub O21 is operating in the Darwin area and was pounced on by an IJN ASW patrol. Later, after slipping away undamaged, she spots a convoy and attacks. The results were 2 fish expended and 0 hits. She wasn't spotted though and her skipper decides to maintain his position on the convoy's port beam while the torpedo tubes are reloaded. An hour later O21 presses home another attack and this time is rewarded as an AP is hit causing a fire. Again the O21 has managed to attack an evade the escorts.

The USN sub Pollack was attacked by an ASW patrol about 70 miles NW of Darwin causing light damage to the sub. Her skipper decides that they will return to Brisbane and they depart the battle area.

Ed's report today reads:

Kure 1 SNLF is at Port Moresby
20 ER is at Wuchow
31 RCB is at Changchun
10 CB is at Tsitsihar
60 CB is at Tarakan
46 CB is at Harbin
134 IJA BF is at Victoria Point
17 D is at Sian
7 TR is at Port Moresby
3.3K troops are at Anshan
16 MB is at Homan
52 CB is at Changchun
17 CB is at Mutachiang
3 A is at Mukden
7 NCB is at Lae

Recon flights over Luang Prabang have turned up nothing.
Flights over Tarawa revealed 3 LCUs 24140//96/0.

The Chinese artillery continues to get the better of the Japanese at Sian and Chungking despite the ferocious Japanese bombardments.

The reports from the ETO made mention that Himmler was made responsible for order in Belgium, Holland, Denmark and Norway.
German Army Group A took Elista.
Churchill arrived in Moscow for talks with Stalin. These talks will go on for 4 days of less than friendly meetings and Stalin will be forced to accept no second front in 1942.

US troops, supplies and fuel continue to flow to far flung destinations as LITS has rapidly gone from a concept on paper to a reality. Now it remains to be seen if it will really serve it's purpose.

The Australian and American troops continue to move towards Darwin, but will they be enough or even get there in time?

The USA 754 Tank Bn continues it's relentless push towards Darwin and again the vanguard of Stuarts had to be reigned in as they were getting to far ahead of the main body.

Further back the 3 Australian Tank Rgt is moving forward with speed as they have been tasked with keeping the road open behind the 754th.

Red and Cookie took care of their visit to the bank today and made another deposit while they waited to see the loan officer. The man greeted them and then lead them into an office where he introduced everyone and then left. The man sitting behind the large, ornate desk is a senior vice president and he is most cordial to Red and Cookie.

“It's been brought to my attention that you two gentlemen have rather large plans and need some additional funding. Normally the bank would be hesitant to loan the amount of money that you're looking for. But, you are looking to buy land for post war development purposes and we at the bank have decided that we want to help you. This is not only a good business plan that the two of you have, but it's also our patriotic duty to plan for life after we win this war. The bank does have one small stipulation that comes with our helping you.” The VP pauses and then continues, “We want to be able to use the two of you as a public example as to the bank's commitment to our country. We want to be able to run advertizements in the local newspapers featuring you two and the bank working together for the betterment of Hawaii and all of our futures.”

Red and Cookie are both in a state of shock, look at each other and smile and Cookie says to the VP, “That all sounds OK to us. Our only problem will be that when our ship sails we have to be on her as long as this war continues. Exactly how much will the bank be willing to extend to us in a line of credit?”

“I don't think that you two should worry about the amount of money as I'm sure that this number will certainly be enough to get your enterprise off the ground.” The VP slides a piece of paper across his desk and Red's eyes pop out when he sees the number.

Sandy reads a letter from Bill and tells her father almost all that he had to say. She misses him and wonders how such a kind and gentle man can be a professional in the military.

Bill stands outside of a bar waiting for his pals to arrive. He's watching the stars, thinking that they look so much better when at sea. He's also thinking that Sandy is under the same moon as he is, yet they seem to be worlds apart.

Red and Cookie decide that they're going out to celebrate. They're going to have a first class dinner and some drinks, but first Red is going to try and find out about Gunny. Cookie thinks to himself that maybe, just maybe Red is indeed a lucky soul.



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RE: Shock Attack On Darwin - 4/30/2010 10:58:58 PM   
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“I tell you that wound of yours is getting infected Pepper. You really need to get some proper medical treatment for that. You...”

With that a terrible artillery barrage commences and a round lands close to their hole and nearly buries them. After enduring about 20 minutes of earth shaking hell there is silence. Along the entire front 75.2K Japanese troops storm forward only to be repulsed yet again by the 27.1K defenders. The Japanese loses are officially reported at 1580/38/1 and the Australian loses at 1186/25/0. The fortifications were breached in several locations and the orders are given for another general fall back in their ever constricted lines.

“So as I was saying why don't you go get the arm checked?” says Pete's loader.

“It'll be fine. Stop worrying like a mother hen,” says Pete as the men move to their new positions.

Major General Herring of the 6th Australian Division has inspected much of his unit's front and realizes that the fortifications are now little more that holes in the ground for the men to hide in. He mutters to one of his staff officers in a very low voice, “We've had it. The lads can't take much more of this. One or two more attacks like the one today and we'll be pushed out of Darwin. Where the devil is that help that's supposed to save us?”

The submarine Saury was detected and attacked by an IJN ASW TF 20 miles SE of Rabaul. She is OK and the mission continues.

The intel report today was rather slim and showed the following:

141 IJN BF is at Tokyo
11 AAR is at Osaka
3 AAR is at Tokyo
49 HAAB is at Mukden
58 CB is at Takamatsu
4 K troops are at Osumi

Recon flights show that there are 3 LCUs at Tarawa consisting of 24260/107/0
Recon flights over Tulagi revealed 10 LCUs of 20020/211/2
Recon of Derby indicate that the Japanese have 2 LCUs there of 3560/14/0

The artillery duels continue at Sian and Chungking.

Red and Cookie awaken and both of them spend the day doing everything with big grins on their faces. Today Red is going to try and find out anything he can about Gunny's location.

Bill and his pals are out on the town again tonight and they hail a cab. A taxi pulls over and the men get in and off into the night they go.

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RE: Darwin's Defenders Hang On - 5/2/2010 1:11:56 PM   
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The current situation in Australia has dominated the General Staff meeting today. They are concerned about the ability of the Allied troops being able to reach Darwin in time. The Americans want a troop withdrawal from Darwin and the Australians, of course, wanted to reinforce the defenders are kick the Japanese out of their country. FDR insisted that the former be the plan as the Allies believe that they can block further Japanese expansion in Australia and as troops levels grow, evict them. For now the American plan will prevail, much to the Aussies dislike. The grim reality is that the Allies are still on the defensive and there is little hope of changing that in the immediate future. Ed's report is gone over before the meeting breaks up.

2 AD is at Harbin
62 CB is at Lunga
15 CB is at Jolo
3 NCB is at Nanning
13 AvR is at Mukden
106 IJA BF is at Anshan
143 IJA BF is at Tokyo
1.8K troops are at Camranh Bay
236.2K troops are at Osaka
4.3K troops are at Sakashima
32 HAAB is at Aomori
7 D is at Sapporo

All was quiet at Chungking today, but at Sian the shelling continue on both sides.

The sub Perch is on a mine laying mission and upon reaching her target, Lunga, proceeds to sow her cargo of death. Upon completion of their task a course is set for home when a huge blast rocks the boat. They have hit a Japanese mine and suffered heavy damage. Damage control parties swing into action to save the sub as she limps away from Guadalcanal.

The submarine S-36 is on patrol near Darwin and suffered an attack by IJN ASW assets. She sustained no damage, but her stalking of a convoy has been ended.

The O20 spots a Japanese convoy and makes an attack on it 68 miles NW of Derby. She hits an AP, hearing two torpedoes exploding causing heavy damage and fires. The AP quickly disappeared beneath the waters and many men were observed thrashing around. “This,” remarks the exec officer of the O21, “Is the revenge of the Sushi. The sharks will feast on those poor bastards.”

“Crikey! Look at that wound Pepper! You really do have a bad infection there and need proper medical care.” The man feels Pete's forehead and says, “Damn it all you're burning up.”

“Thanks for telling me Mother. I feel lousy, but I'm going nowhere in this artillery barrage unless I want to get myself killed.” Pete is shivering and pale.

The lead elements of the 754th Tank Bn are approaching the Japanese and have slowed their pace to allow the slower Grants to join them. Tomorrow morning at dawn they will open the way out of Darwin, or die trying.

Orders are passed among the defending units that they are to pull out of their positions tonight and evacuate Darwin. All hinges on the Yanks being able to open their path to safety. That and the Japanese not getting wind of what is going on. The Japanese bombardment of Darwin has been very heavy today and it is feared that an attack will catch the retreating defenders in the open.

Bill reports in at HQs at Mare Island and is informed that he will not be assuming command of the Laffey tomorrow as originally planned. He is handed a pass granting him a 2 week leave and he leaves the office. He immediately starts thinking of a way to get to see Sandy.

Red and Cookie are arranging transport to the Islands of Maui and Kauai. It's difficult, but they manage to get everything scheduled. All they need now is the time to do what they need. Red has been unable to find out anything about Gunny.

The Victory Points are:
Japanese 16284
Allied 4619










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RE: The Escape From Darwin - 5/3/2010 1:00:00 AM   
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The 754th Tank Bn has opened the road to safety without a fight as the Japanese have mysteriously melted away. The 3rd Australian Tank Rgt has secured the crossroads that was their objective and more Allied troops will join them there soon. The Japanese continued to shell the Australian positions sporadically throughout the night making the pull out more difficult.

“Crikey, Pepper you're on fire lad. Hey, give us a hand here as Pepper can barely stand let alone walk.”

“Mother,” says Pete weakly, “Did I ever tell you that I'm sorry I never listened to you?”

“Pepper relax and be quiet. Save your strength. I'll carry you out of here on my back if I have to, but I will not leave you behind.”

Four men with a stretcher carry Pete and this is a scene being repeated all over the Darwin area as stories of Japanese brutality are well known.

The withdrawal of troops commences as planned and more than one officer has observed that his men are moving faster than he's ever seen before.

S-36 is attacked today by IJN ASW vessels in the Darwin area, but again she escapes without a scratch.

S-43 is 230 miles NE of Darwin when she attacks a convoy, but no hits are scored and she's driven off by the escorts.

In Washington another intel report has been prepared, but Ed chooses to remain in the Pentagon as he awaits the results of the rescue at Darwin.

6.5K troops are at Bonin
11 HAAB is at Osaka
8 IndB is at Chengting
10.7K troops are at Paramushiro Jima
121 IJA BF is at Lashio
48 CB is at Moulmein
136 planes are at Mukden
57 CB is at Maizuru
47 AAB is at Mandalay
13 AR is at Mukden
58 CB is at Takamatsu
10 MB is at Chiamussu
15 CB is at Jolo
5 MB is at Port Moresby

The Chinese and Japanese continue to shell one another's positions around Sian.

Chungking remains quiet and has been so for a number of days now. Are the Japanese preparing for an attack and resting the troops or are they going to pull out?

Bill has been unable to wangle any transport and decides to head into San Francisco. He walks into a bar and he can't believe his eyes. “Why you dirty, no good for nothings! How the hell are you?” Sure enough there's Will, Jim and Ben sitting at a table.

“Hi Bill,” says Will and the men all exchange greetings. “Grab a seat and join us. I hear that the next round is on you.” The men all laugh and they talk about what's been going on for them.

“Pete is still at Darwin,” says Jim, “We don't know what's going on there and nobody is saying anything.”

“I can contact Admiral Landy at the Pentagon and maybe he can tell us something. Say Will do you still happen to have that letter I gave to you? You know the one that can work miracles?”

“I just happen to have it right here.” Will produces a badly battered piece of paper and hands it to Bill, who smiles. “Listen Bill I know that you'd love to drink with us all day, but we ship out for the east coast tomorrow morning and we'd love to get some news on Pete.”

The men leave and head back to Mare Island where Bill promptly walks into the communications center, scribbles on a com sheet and hands it to an enlisted man.

“Sir I can't accept this without it going through the proper channels.”

Bill promptly shoves his letter under the man's nose and says, “Read this and then send it. Savy?”

Now all they have to do is hope that Ed is working late and that he'll reply.

Back at Darwin the Allies luck held as there were no Japanese attacks during the day and the following units have managed to slip away unnoticed.

Sparrow Force Bn
107 RAN BF
Gull Force Bn
Darwin Defense Bn
6th Australian Division

The operation has been an unqualified success even if it means that Darwin is doomed. Some of these units will move to Townsville to refit while the ones in better shape will join the blocking force further south.

Pete is carried out by his unit and they are constantly asking for motorized transport for him and proper medical facilities.

A tanker with the 754th says, “Sorry Mac, but as you can see we only deal in killing Japs. Keep heading down the road and I'm sure you'll stumble into something. Good luck.” With that he tosses them a pack of smokes and waves.

A messenger appears at the Officer's Club and asks for Cdr Smith. Upon finding him he hands over a piece of paper and leaves. Bill reads it and hands it over to Will who shares it with Ben and Jim.

“Darwin being evacuated. No word on Pete. Looking forward to seeing the Pirates soonest.” Admiral Landy.

“Thanks Bill,” says Will, “You were always one of the best bosses that I ever had.”

“He's had more than a few of them too,” laughs Ben.

“Well it's late and I think we've all got an early start tomorrow so how about you guys stay the the BOQs tonight?” says Bill. “ I think the letter can arrange it and then in the morning we can grab some chow together and be on our ways.”

Bill has the vision of a vehicle and time to spend with Sandy.

Today the last of the 6 remaining merchantmen of Pedestal arrived at Malta. People at the harbor stand in awe that the SS Ohio has managed to make it to the port.








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RE: Gripes From A Disgruntled Player - 5/4/2010 12:15:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		As the PBEM goes forward there are a couple of issues that I'm suffering with:

1  Why are static CD units leaving their assigned locations and moving towards the front only to stop somewhere along the way and stay there?  Specifically this has happened with 2 units in Australia and is a non issue as long as the Japanese don't attack the bases where these units should be.

2  At the start of the game I divided the AVG and later tried to recombine it.  The results were less than satisfying as sections A and C disappeared with their planes and B is all that remains.  B has 54 pilots and a maximum of 24 planes now, but the pilots will dwindle in #s over time. This also is not a game breaker, but I sure could use another 48 planes in the air to blunt those Japanese sweeps.

The game to date, though plodding along, has been entertaining for both players.  The level of frustration from the Allied side has been tempered with the knowledge that the toys are in the pipeline.  It's the survival part that's been brutal.

The Spits v the Zeros hasn't come off as I'd hoped, even with good pilots.  The short legs on the fighters have been a major handicap in the India/Burma area and the 2E bombers aren't up to the task of going it alone.

I eagerly await the increase in the USN CV complements of fighters from 27 to 36, knowing that these 9 planes per CV can make a huge difference.  When exactly does "late 1942" happen?

The range of the B-17 and B-24 can reach from Cooktown to PM without going to extended range, but our restriction on the # of planes allowed tied to the size of the base has been a large handicap.  Building Cooktown to a 5 level took a long time and as you'll see later in the AAR the B-17s are my best "fighter" vs the Zeros.

The AAR is currently about 2 months behind the game.

I hope you guys are enjoying the AAR as much as I am doing it.

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RE: Gripes From A Disgruntled Player - 5/4/2010 7:05:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tocaff

The game to date, though plodding along, has been entertaining for both players.  The level of frustration from the Allied side has been tempered with the knowledge that the toys are in the pipeline.  It's the survival part that's been brutal.

Same for me here, the only thing that keep my morale from sinking is the knowledge that "toys are in the pipeline", but damn, that's long to wait !

The Spits v the Zeros hasn't come off as I'd hoped, even with good pilots.  The short legs on the fighters have been a major handicap in the India/Burma area and the 2E bombers aren't up to the task of going it alone.

For my own, the Spit were a revelation when it came in frontline squadrons, making a pain for the japs in China; but now that Tojo or Tony had come, this is no more true. And there short legs is really a problem. Can't wait for P-38...

I eagerly await the increase in the USN CV complements of fighters from 27 to 36, knowing that these 9 planes per CV can make a huge difference.  When exactly does "late 1942" happen?

Would alos like to know

I hope you guys are enjoying the AAR as much as I am doing it.

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RE: Gripes From A Disgruntled Player - 5/4/2010 8:30:02 PM   
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I eagerly await the increase in the USN CV complements of fighters from 27 to 36, knowing that these 9 planes per CV can make a huge difference. When exactly does "late 1942" happen?

The range of the B-17 and B-24 can reach from Cooktown to PM without going to extended range, but our restriction on the # of planes allowed tied to the size of the base has been a large handicap. Building Cooktown to a 5 level took a long time and as you'll see later in the AAR the B-17s are my best "fighter" vs the Zeros.

The AAR is currently about 2 months behind the game.

I hope you guys are enjoying the AAR as much as I am doing it.

As always thanks for reading, I feed off it.


The thing that truly made the difference for CV fighters was the upgrade from F4F-3 Wildcats to the F4F-4 model. (The -4 had folding wings.) Unfortunately, I don't think the game code is sophisticated enough to include this. The change should already have started: the -4 flew at Midway. It looks like a random factor in your particular game is working against you.

Yes, we are indeed enjoying it! (any chance of Pete's getting a replacement MG?)

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RE: Debacle at Darwin - 5/5/2010 1:44:00 PM   
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FDR sits behind his desk, sighs and places the intel briefs on his desk. Ed's report is of very painful, but expected news.

6.7K troops are at Iwo Jima
12 AR is at Singapore
143 IJA BF is at Tokyo
53 D is at Osaka
213K troops are at Chanfufeng
24 AvUnit is at Kwajalein
133 IJA BF is making plans for Amchitka Island
187K troops are at Saipan
4 AAR is at Toyama
65 CB is at Kagoshima
18 RCAR is at Toyama

Recon of Myitkyina has revealed 3 LCUs are there made up of 24120/288/18
Recon flights over Tulagi have shown that there are 10 LCUs there comprised of 30980/302/8

A coast watcher on New Britain has reported that an IJN PG hit a mine near Rabaul and was burning, having suffered heavy damage.

Darwin was assaulted by 79.3K Japanese troops and they rolled over the 1.6K Australians who served as the rearguard for the withdrawal. The Japanese lost 5/1/0 and the Aussies 1887/13/0. Darwin is now held by the Japanese. The men of the Darwin Coastal Artillery Rgt have surrendered and the victorious Japanese soldiers are remembering their fallen buddies and taking it out on the POWs.

The 1st Australian Cav Division has managed to get away at the last moment and will live to fight another day.

The men of the 754th Tank Bn have done an outstanding job and many owe their lives to these men who guard the rear of the retreating column of men.

At Sian the Japanese suffered heavy loses under a Chinese artillery bombardment.

“Ed, I've got a few questions based on this report of yours,” says FDR, “Firstly that bit about the Japanese planning for Amchitka Island. That's Alaska, right?”

“Yes, it is,” answers Ed, “This helps to lend credence to my fears about that area. We are doing all that we can to make any Japanese move there an expensive proposition. As a matter of fact today 3 BBs and 2 DDs left for Anchorage to bolster our fleet there.”

“OK, that's good and I'll trust my General Staff to do the right thing. Next can the Chinese hold Sian and Chungking?” FDR waits for Ed's answer and lights a cigarette.

“Well with the number of troops that are reported at these two locations the Japanese will have their hands full. I suspect that Sian will be the easier nut to crack as it is of less value, strategically speaking. Chungking, if the defense is handled properly, should be able to withstand a major Japanese effort.” Ed leans back in his seat awaiting the next question.

FDR asks, “When will we put that new operation, Grinder, into action to boot the Japanese out of Australia?”

“That depends,” says Ed, “On how fast we can get the needed assets in place, how long it takes for them to organize themselves and finally when you and the Australian PM give them the go ahead.. I would recommend that we don't rush Grinder as failure would be a major setback, both from a military standpoint and civilian morale would take a beating too.”

“OK, as usual thanks for the insight Ed,” says FDR.

Ed rises and leaves the White House, heading for home after a very tiring vigil at the Pentagon during the debacle at Darwin.

Pete has been left by his buddies at a makeshift dressing station and the medic that looks him over tags him and mutters to another man on the team. “This guy has been playing in the dirt far to long with that wound, it should've been nothing, but this infection is bad. Get a jeep, ambulance, or whatever we have and get him on it and back to a field hospital where a doctor can have at him. Do it now.”

The ships that have departed from Mare Island bound for Anchorage include the DD Laffey. Bill is sad not to be aboard her, but at the same time, since he has managed to con the motor pool out of a jeep, he's happy. He throws a small bag with his clothes in the vehicle and he roars off to the north and Sandy.

The Pirates are eastwards bound on a train, their destination is Washington DC and a meeting with Admiral Landy.







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RE: Debacle at Darwin - 5/5/2010 8:21:37 PM   
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Darwin was assaulted by 79.3K Japanese troops and they rolled over the 1.6K Australians who served as the rearguard for the withdrawal. The Japanese lost 5/1/0 and the Aussies 1887/13/0. Darwin is now held by the Japanese.


OH NOOOO!

I've a feeling there will soon be a long-range bomber duel over Northern Oz...

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RE: Debacle at Darwin - 5/6/2010 7:55:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Long range bombing would require a large enough base within range and that would present a large problem given the Allied situation at the moment.  Perth, Alice Springs and all others are all to far away. 

Don't fret though as the Allied commanders had considered this situation and they have a plan.  The plan's name is Operation Grinder and the forces needed are being assembled as the Japanese are pillaging.  The war is young and to date the Allies haven't suffered an unexpected or crushing defeat so in that respect force conservation has worked. 

The largest problem is that the Allied fleets are to exposed without adequate support to intervene in this area.


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RE: Civilian Morale Sags - 5/7/2010 1:35:30 PM   
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“Can you believe this? Are those Japs really invincible? Why in the last war we showed our enemies just what the American fighting man was made of. This young generation is soft. The generals, admirals and that socialistic President of ours don't know how to run a war.” The man takes another drink of his coffee as he puts down the newspaper and then continues, “I'll tell you what, if we had a Republican in the White House things would be different.”

“Ralph get off of your high horse and eat your breakfast,” says his pal. “You'd think that you were a regular Sgt. York in the last war when the truth was that you never got out of a training camp here in the States.”

Other men sitting at the small eatery mumble and agree that the Allies need to do something in the Pacific. They are tired from working the 3rd shift at a local factory making parts for jeeps.

In Washington the much maligned General Staff has met, studied the reports, discussed what's going on and decided to stay the course.

“Operations Comet and Constellation have been unqualified successes and with some luck Operation Grinder will eject the Japanese from Australia. At the very least Grinder will show the Japanese Allied resolve and that will be a boost, we hope, to civilian morale.” Ed returns to his seat and quietly listens to the rest of the meeting's proceedings before returning to his office. It's late in the afternoon and he wants to speak with Donovan, if he can track him down. Today's report read:

4.4K troops are at Kadina
22 AAR is at Kitakyushu
8 HGR is at Harbin
2 ER is planning for Sian
138 IJN BF is at Tokyo
17 RCAR is at Niigata
44 HAAB is at Manila
5 A is at Tsitsihar
15 MB is at Darwin
10 TR is at Mutanchiang
114 IJA BF is at Chengting
6 CGR is at Kwajalein
22 NLF is at Banjarmasin
113 IJA BF is at Nanking
10 HGR is at Heiho
11 HAAB is at Osaka

The Soviets have still to honor the agreement about sharing intel, but relevant materials will continued to be passed to their embassy until Ed is ordered to do otherwise.

Recon flights over Lunga have shown that there are 11 LCUs present, made up of approximately 3680/38/0.

A coast watcher's report from Maloelap indicated that an IJN AP hit a mine there.

The MSW Cuttack has been sweeping mines at Trimcomalee.

Japanese planes are repeatedly hitting the retreating Australian troops S of Darwin hindering their movement to what is hoped to be safe, for now, positions.

The train ride has been a generally boring trip so far for the Pirates. They play cards to pass the time, though not having a fourth hampers their game.

Bill arrives at the gas station and yells, “How does one get some gas around here?”

Dave comes out with a big grin on his face, shakes Bill's hand and claps him on the back. “Welcome sailor, what brings you to this neck of the woods? OK, don't tell me, let me guess....hmmmm...you came to go fishing with me this afternoon?”

Bill laughs and says, “That sounds like a great idea. Maybe after a nice homemade lunch and my saying hello to Sandy we could do just that.”

Dave's facial expression changes and he says, “I guess you didn't get the letter, huh? Sandy wrote to you telling of her trip to visit her aunt in Seattle. She left the day before yesterday so I guess it's just us guys since I'm not sure of her return date.”

The two men chat while Dave works on an old car and Bill sips on a bottle of Coke.

Pete arrived at a field hospital in the morning and the doctor immediately diagnosed his wound's infection as being gangrene. “How long has he been like this?” the doctor asks. Nobody knows for sure and the doctor orders that Pete be given intravenous to rehydrate him along with penicillin. “We'll know shortly if we can save his arm or not,” the doctor says. “As soon as he's stable we'll decide if we can ship him back to civilization or keep him with us. Who's next?”

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RE: Gripes From A Disgruntled Player - 5/8/2010 12:13:21 AM   
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1 Why are static CD units leaving their assigned locations and moving towards the front only to stop somewhere along the way and stay there? Specifically this has happened with 2 units in Australia and is a non issue as long as the Japanese don't attack the bases where these units should be.


This sounds like the infamous "self-planting" units glitch... unless you turn off replacements, units can upgrade, and if they happen to have static artillery in the upgrade, your unit is now stuck in the middle of nowhere... this most commonly will happen with the Dutch Naval Base Force units, but other units can be involved as well.

Check to see if you unit has (perhaps) a 6" CD gun (or other gun) in a static mount... if they do, the unit will never move again.

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RE: Gripes From A Disgruntled Player - 5/8/2010 1:30:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		The upgrade was turned off prior to the start of the game and accepting replacements was also off.  They've got the large tubes so they'll be garrisoning the kangeroos until the war's end.

Was this squashed in AE?


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RE: Gripes From A Disgruntled Player - 5/8/2010 9:59:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tocaff

The upgrade was turned off prior to the start of the game and accepting replacements was also off.  They've got the large tubes so they'll be garrisoning the kangeroos until the war's end.

Was this squashed in AE?


Who knows... if everything was off, they should not have upgraded in regular WITP, so it sounds like a bizarre glitch... i hadn't heard of it happening if replacements were turned off.

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RE: Gripes From A Disgruntled Player - 5/8/2010 11:07:59 PM   
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RE: The Lull - 5/9/2010 2:00:32 PM   
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A large staff meeting is underway and Ed's report is being given by an aide.

7 D is at Sapporo
74 planes are at Mutanchiang
15 AAR is at Nagoya
35.8K troops are located at Changchun
1 AAR is at Tokyo
Sasebo 1 SNLF is at Tulagi

“There have been no intel reports from our Soviet friends to date despite their promises.”

A member to the General Staff orders that the room be cleared except for those who have the highest security clearance. Once this has been accomplished he resumes his seat and makes the following announcement.

“The Germans are prepared to launch their attack on the city of Stalingrad. Of more immediate import to us tomorrow Operation Jubilee will swing into action. This is a raid-in-force by British and Canadian troops on Dieppe. Of course I don't need to remind anyone in this room that these items are not to be mentioned outside of this room.”

With that the meeting is adjourned, though many of the men stay and discuss matters with each other that are deemed important to the war effort.

“Excuse me Ed,” says an admiral, “I hear that you have taken a liking to attending baseball games and if it's OK with you I'd like to join you one day this summer. A little distraction from our daily grind would be welcomed.”

Ed smiles and says, “Sure, why not sir your company would be most welcome. I'll have and aide check the schedule and contact your office.”

At Trimcomalee the MSWs Rampur and Cuttack are busily sweeping mines sown by IJN subs in the area.

The submarine Gato has been tracking a Japanese convoy for the better part of a day and she finally has managed to acquire a perfect firing solution on a juicy target. Torpedoes are launched and the sub dives deeper and alters her course in case the fish are spotted and the escorts work their way back up the torpedo track and attack. The torpedoes either miss or are duds and Gato is driven off by the angry escorts, though she suffers no damage.

The Japanese planes continue to attack the retreating Allied troops south of Darwin inflicting light loses, but certainly not helping morale.

Pete was examined by the doctor again and though the antibiotic is helping he's not sure if the arm can be saved. “I want this man closely watched and we'll continue this treatment for now. It would be better if we could transfer him to a hospital in Townsville, but the ride could kill him as he's so weak.” The orderly nods and moves along with the doctor down the row of wounded men. The field hospital has been ordered to pack up and move south, further away from where the combat is expected if the Japanese decide to give chase.

Phil is enjoying the sights of Auckland as he's got plenty of time on his hands. He thinks to himself “Join the Navy and see the world” and laughs. People passing him on the street look at him thinking that the Yank is odd laughing like that. The Benham is being worked on as she's undergoing a refit that will make her more capable. Phil spots some of the crew leaving a bar and they snap to attention upon spotting him.

“As you were,” he says as the men immediately relax, “Though I want to see you men having a nice stay here in Auckland, I also want to remind you that I don't, under any circumstances, want any trouble.”

The men mutter an “Aye Aye sir,”and with that he heads off looking for a place to eat.

The Pirates travels have been made a little more enjoyable as the owner of an auto parts company is traveling to Washington also. The man, it seems, has a weakness for cards, has joined their game and the four men play, chat, eat and drink the evening away as the train continues eastwards. What makes the Pirates so happy is that this man who has joined their game has a fat wallet and also pilots his own plane for recreation.

Red and Cookie have made arrangements with a lawyer, who has been recommended to them by the bank, for him to represent them in their business dealings. They will need contracts, registration of land sales, etc. and this man seems to fit the bill. They have agreed to the fee schedule laid out for them and the three men end their long day by going out to dinner. While at dinner the lawyer asks Red and Cookie if they would consider taking him on as an equal partner in their business venture. He says that he's willing to invest his time and money if they'll have him.

Cookie says, “I think that your offer is most interesting and I'd like to have some time to discuss it with Red, if you wouldn't mind.”

Red nods in agreement and the lawyer also agrees.

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RE: The Lull - 5/11/2010 6:56:11 PM   
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“Here's the report that Admiral Landy's office sent over Mr. President,” says the White House staffer as he places yet another pile of papers on FDR's desk.

6 A is at Hailar
5.8K troops are at Aomori
43 CB is at Rangoon
46 NG is at Merauke
China Ex Army is at Chungking
1 MR is at Amoy
34 CB is at Tsitsihar

Heiho 8 LCUs 45020/547/20
Fushan 1 LCU 1180/14/0
Tsitsihar 7 LCUs 28920/307/19
Tabun-Nur 1 LCU 1560/16/0
Mandalay 101 fighters, 59 bombers, 174 aux
Lunga 11 LCUs 4100/64/0
Mishan 4 LCUs 0/0/88
Makin 2 LCUs

“So,” grunts FDR, “Our Soviet friends have finally begun to come through and honor our agreement to share intel. It's about time. I suppose the fact that the Japanese have moved their HQs for China to the Chungking area means that there's going to be one hell of a fight soon for that city.”

At Eniwetok a Japanese AP, loaded with the 130 IJNAF BF, hits 3 mines and suffers catastrophic damage and out of control fires. She promptly sinks taking many lives with her.

245 miles E of Kweiyang the Chinese troops are attacked by Japanese aircraft. Miraculously nobody suffers so much as a scratch.

The train bearing the Pirates pulls into Union station in Washington DC and the men bid a sheepish farewell to their “pigeon.” The businessman has managed to fleece them of all of their money and they are still in a state of disbelief.

“I swear that nobody has ever done that to me before at poker, craps yes, but poker never,” declares Will.

Red and Cookie have decided to exclude the lawyer from becoming a partner. “He just seems to want to get a piece or our action to much for my liking,” says Cookie. “We'll have to watch him closely and the same goes for the bank. When something seems to good to be true it usually comes crashing down on your head,” he adds.

Red agrees and tells Cookie that he's off to try to find out about Gunny.

Dave and Bill are sitting on the porch gazing at a star filled sky drinking coffee.

“You should see a night sky in the middle of the ocean,” says Bill. “Its really quite a sight to behold.”

Dave responds with, “This sky isn't anything to sneeze at. As a matter of fact it's one of the reasons that I fell in love with this place. OK, that and the great fishing,” he smiles.

“It's hard to believe that there's a war on as it's so peaceful here,” murmurs Bill.

The two men head into the house as they're both tired from their hike and the fishing.


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RE: The Lull - 5/13/2010 1:52:33 PM   
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The doctor has again examined Pete's arm and doesn't like what he sees. He decides to send him back to a proper hospital in Townsville where someone else can decide to save or take the arm. Pete is loaded into the back of an ambulance for the bone jarring ride that will eventually get him to his destination. The ambulance will be making stops along the way at other field hospital facilities as Operation Grinder not only is preparing for success, but for the worst also.

Mine sweeping continued at Trimcomalee as it seems that the IJN has taken up the task of constantly sending subs to lay deadly loads there on a regular basis.

The Japanese attacked Chinese defenses about 50 miles NW of Changsha with 32.3K troops, forcing the 7.6K defenders to retreat. Initial reports indicate that the Japanese lost 282/8/0 and the Chinese 43/3/0.

In Bill Donovan's favorite Georgetown eatery he and Ed dine together and share information.

5.1K troops are at Songhia
1 Mort R is at Sasebo
2 AAR is at Tokyo
Yokosuka RCAR is at Tokyo
8 HGR is at Harbin
14 A is at Rangoon
2 MR is at Hangchow
6.2K troops are at Taipei
25 ER is at Sendai
2IB is at Changsha

Donovan hands the paper back to Ed, who replaces it in his briefcase, locks it and hands it to a waiting aide who returns to another table, rejoining aides and drivers of the two men.

“All of these reports are coming to nothing. Knowing what's in Japan doesn't offer much help on the front lines,” says Ed, “But hopefully we'll begin start getting useful tidbits sooner than later.”

“In Europe,” Donovan says, “Big things are going on that will have a major effect on the outcome of the war. The Germans launched the expected offensive on Stalingrad yesterday and today they reached the Volga River. The Red Army is getting it's fanny paddled, but they always manage to be able to come back for more. My boys think that Stalin has drawn the line and is refusing to give up the city, no matter what the cost. Yesterday Operation Jubilee, as you might have heard, was launched. It was a raid-in-force on Dieppe made by 6.1K British and Canadian troops. In less than 10 hours they lost 1,380 KIA, 1,600 wounded and 2,000 POWs while the RAF lost 107 planes and the RN a DD. The German loses were pegged at 345 dead, 268 wounded and the Luftwaffe lost 40 planes. This, of course, was not the hoped for result and it'll be back to planning with what they've learned the hard way. The German coastal defenses look to be real and not myth and all indications are that they'll continue to build them up.”

After finishing with their meals and some small talk the two men depart and go separate ways.

Red continues to fail to get any information about Gunny so he turns his attentions to Lucky as he feels that he's been neglecting the dog. They go on a long walk together and Red is pleased to note that the dog is a magnet for females. He makes plans to see one of them and asks if she knows of a good restaurant. With their plans made and her telephone number in his pocket they part company. Sometimes having a dog and not being in uniform can be advantageous, just like Cookie has told him.

Bill and Dave spent the morning working on a customer's car that needed new brakes and tires. Dave mentioned that it was becoming increasingly difficult to obtain parts, especially tires due to the war. Once the car was finished they ate lunch and decided to take a hike and enjoy the beautiful day. Bill was lost in thoughts of Sandy and the war while Dave led the way.

“Hey sailor, I think we should head back now,” said Dave, “Are you still with me?”

“Sorry,” replied Bill, “I've got a bit on my mind and got carried away with thinking about the war and Sandy. I'll try to be better company.”

Dave laughed it off and told Bill not to worry about it as these hikes, though good for you physically are even better for the mind.



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