Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Canute

1. Explore the black hole. On an unexplored black system hole you can't target the Black hole self.

2. Target the Black hole now. The Black hole self not the System. The targeting ring is the border where ships/stations are geting tow into the hole.

3. select your Const. ship and let it build the station 1-2 cm outside the ring you saw before.

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ORIGINAL: jscott991

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ORIGINAL: Fishman

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ORIGINAL: taltamir

if you tell them to build far enough from the black hole so that said radius will not intersect the black hole's edge, then you do not gain the bonus... if you tell them to build close enough, then there is a good chance of them falling in the black hole by accident...

That's ridiculous. I have never had a construction ship simply FALL in a black hole. The system size is HUGE compared to the actual size of the black hole itself. Unless you are trying to build it in a way that the station is JUST about to fall in, so as to make half the attackers who jump out of warp to try to attack your station promptly get sucked in and die, you should have no difficulty at all.

Incidentally, doing this is very funny, but no one said it had to be easy or necessary.

It should be easy!

The AI has no problem building these stations without my input; it is just slow to build research stations if left on auto.

I would wager that if you told 100 DW players to try to build a research base near a black hole manually, 75 or more would have their ship sucked to its death or fail to get the bonus. I would bet that percentage would be unchanged even if the AI had already built a station near it to show you approximately where to build.

The ships come out of hyperspace incompetently, they move at sublight speeds to their build location incompetently, and the bonus radius, at least to me, isn't easy to spot.

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ORIGINAL: Dadekster

I think the idea is cool as well, but I think it would be unneeded fluff tbh. What would they do that isn't already handled better in game? I can't see a reason you would need one other than it is mobile....but that sort of takes away it being useful around a blackhole which requires being near it. Think some major rewrites of code would be needed? Don't get me wrong, I think science vessels are neat, but they just don't seem to fit into a game like this.

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ORIGINAL: WoodMan

I still don't understand the issue, 2 years down the line and I've still never, ever lost a ship, base or anything to a Black Hole. Since Legends it is even easier. Click black hole, click build research base (or resort base), job done.

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ORIGINAL: Kull

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ORIGINAL: WoodMan

I still don't understand the issue, 2 years down the line and I've still never, ever lost a ship, base or anything to a Black Hole. Since Legends it is even easier. Click black hole, click build research base (or resort base), job done.

One of the first things I did in a new Legends game (v12 Beta pach) was to order a construction ship to build a research station at a Black Hole. Did it just like you said. And it fell in. LOL. Personally I don't understand all the angst around this issue. If all the danger is removed from building things around Black Holes, then they are no different from any other generic item in game. If you want the bonus, there should be some danger involved and there's not THAT many of these to make the increased micromanagement bothersome. The real oddity is that I can build things right on top of a neutron star and suffer no issues whatsoever - the gravity coming from those babies is not insignificant!

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Since the RotS navigation buttons were introduce, I've never lost a ship. Before, when I had to select a construction ship, right click the black hole, I had to be really careful. This was fun as I enjoyed the element of risk.

Nowadays, it's just click the potential research locations button, click the build research station button and that's my research taken care of. I preferred the old way.