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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/7/2009 7:11:46 PM   
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I don't think the AE engine allows for the escort TF to "join combat" if the convoy is attacked... otherwise we would have seen some examples in months of playing

so the amphib TFs are on their own if the SCTF doesn't intercept in the first place

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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/8/2009 5:57:09 PM   
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Dec. 16, 1941
No major events this turn

Central Pacific
KB approaching Wake, invasion TF assembled and waiting for air cover from KB.
a IJN TF of 4 DDs scouting for enemy carriers is attacked by 2 F2A-3 and 5 SBD-2 near Midway. I guess they might be land-based planes from Midway itself. 1 SBD-2 shot down, 1 DD moderately damaged with 54 sys, 23(14) flood, 9(4) eng, 6 fire.

Southern Pacific
I have Okamoto Det (with Claudes) on a xAK at Manus, but they won't unload. I guess it might be due to the fact that Manus has no airfield (0-level), I'm trying to build it but it will take some time with the current number of engineers there :(
Troops should land at Shortlands tomorrow.

Luzon
SS S-38 torpedoed a SC (!) near Formosa but torpedoes did not detonate (this was lucky, as S-class boats use reliable torpedoes)
A number of sweeps and dogfights over Luzon. Losses according to combat report are 1 Zero for 4 Warhawks, but actual losses among Zero pilots are 3 KIA and 1 WIA. I guess enemy losses might be higher than reported as well.
No combats in the second front at Atimonan.

Manado
Zeroes from Jolo sweep Manado and encounter 5 Dutch Hawks 75. At least 2 enemy planes downed (might be even all 5), no Zero losses.
Manado garrison resisted first day of combat, although Japanese losses were light (troops 2297:1954, base AV 72:63, modified AV 11:45, odds 1:4, fort 1, losses 108:138). I think I will bombard with some CAs and try again tomorrow.
Troops should land at Davao tomorrow.
I assigned the Ternate invasion to follow the wrong surface task force, and it ended following one headed to Babeldaob to replenish... I am considering the idea of landing at Ambon before Ternate.

Malaya-Burma
More air strikes on Georgetown airfield. Slow advance to Taiping continues.
56th Inf. reg advancing from Kota Bharu made contact with enemy along the railroad to Temuloh.
Advance to Moulmein continues. Recon reports the enemy is evacuating Tavoy by sea. Will send subs and planes to "investigate" ;)

China
Last day of bombarment of Hong Kong. Tomorrow IJA will attack.
Near Hangchow, 88th Chinese Corps is attacked and routed. And with routed, I mean routed:
quote:

Japanese ground losses:
     39 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     1699 casualties reported
        Squads: 71 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Non Combat: 56 destroyed, 4 disabled
        Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
     Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
     Units retreated 1


If anyone wonders, assault odds were only 2:1, but I had been bombarding the unit unopposed for days with planes and artillery - so I guess even before the attack disruption was high and morale was extremely low. Also, while I guess the 1699 losses are FoW, I expect a very high amount of desertion/disruption in any case.

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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/8/2009 7:01:31 PM   
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a pic of the situation in the Manado area.
A mess of arrows as usual ;)






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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/11/2009 7:46:46 PM   
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Turn rate slowed down quite a bit due to real life - I'm quite busy and Hartwig is on vacation (I envy him ;))
Anyway, the game calendar keeps moving forwards, the liberation of south-east Asia from western barbarians nears!

December 17, 1941
A quiet turn overall, I will use it to define the next plans.

I had 4 CAs and their DD escorts bombard Manado to soften up the defenses. New deliberate attack scheduled for today. Ineffective naval strikes by ABDA bombers on the last invasion transport still unloading supplies.

Naval search showed at least 2 submarines near Ternate, I guess he's expecting a landing there so I have sent the invasion fleet back to Babeldaob. I can land there later on, not a main objective.

Troops landed at Davao, I expect to secure the port today. Flying fortresses finally showed up at Atimonan but failed to do any damage; Atimonan should get a level-1 airfield in a day or two. Anns from Jolo sortied against two different xAKLs without hitting, but at least I have identified the ships as being no threat (and having no value).

AR, AKE and Air HQ arrived at Babeldaob - it's now a fully operational forward base.

Many small air skirmishes over Malaya and Tavoy but very light losses reported for both sides. Near Kota Bharu 56th infantry regiment catches up with the retreating Federated Malay States volunteer brigade, which surrenders.

First assault on Hong Kong, the base resists but fortifications are reduced to 1. Surprisingly low losses for both sides (362 vs. 604) are reported (fow?).

First IJA troops enter Wenchow, but find the Chinese are still there and outnumber them 3:1. Bombardment fails, now they'll dig in and wait for reinforcements. 32nd Division enters Kweiteh and kicks out two chinese corps, clearing the railroad line to Kaifeng.

KB should strike Wake today.

No trace of enemy CVs. Hartwig told me they are not at Midway (there was a possible bug in combat reports, I received what I think was a report intended for the Allied player giving out the position of VB-6). No, I didn't ask, actually I'm somewhat sorry he told me as his feint was working very well (he had left VB-6 and VF-2 at Midway to "fake" a carrier presence there).


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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/11/2009 10:08:26 PM   
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I spent some time drawing plans for the next 2 weeks or so. Here is part I: Pacific Ocean, Papua to Midway.

KB/1 strike at Midway
I want to entice my opponent to react, so I will try to expose the position of KB in a out of the way but believable location: Midway.
I plan to use 3 carriers (exactly which ones will be decided later, based on sorties left and damage).
They will carry as many Val units as possible, Kates will be moved to the other carriers or left in the Marshalls.
Hopefully it will appear that the whole KB is raiding Midway, but that only Vals flew ground/airfield/port attack missions (I'll place some kates on naval search/attack just in case)
The other carriers will load mostly Zeroes and Kates in a pure anti-ship role and move to support a Port Moresby invasion in early January.

Timeline:
Raid should hit (i.e., expose carriers) on december 30 or 31.
This date should allow some replenishment at Kwajalein and is scheduled to be roughly contemporary to the projected Timor invasion.

Assets:
3 CVs
misc. escorts
3-4 submarines



Southern Pacific feint
The idea is to feint an advance in the southern pacific, hoping to draw reinforcements in the area.
If all goes well, any reaction should find no invasion fleet but a lot of submarines.
Not sure about the target yet, possibly Canton, Baker of Samoa. Will depend on nav search and recon info

Plan:
Secure Makin and Tabiteuea before dec 25.
Set the LCUs on Makin and Tabiteuea to prepare for Pago Pago (just in case SigInt picks it up)
Move AV and a Mavis unit to Tabiteuea, use them to recon & nav. search
Swarm the target area with submarines
Bring a bombardment TF and make as much noise as possible

Timeline:
Bombardment should start shortly after KB/1 is sighted at midway, so on jan. 2 or something like that.
Adm. Hartwig could be enticed to react to my feint since "KB" is too far away to support the "invasion".

Assets:
2 Kongo BBs (detached from KB escort)
2 AMCs (fake invasion fleet, actually surface raiders)
misc. escorts
4 midget subs + carriers
8 other subs (may recall more from patrols near Line Islands if needed)



Port Moresby Invasion
You know what the basic idea is ;)

Plan:
Secure Shortlands (troops are ashore already)
Move AV and floatplanes at Shortlands for nav.search
Land at Rabaul before dec. 30
KB/2 (the CVs not at Midway) should reach the area around dec. 30
Secure Tulagi
If all goes well, 144th inf. reg. should land at PM on jan. 3 or later (in other words, just after the feint in the Samoa area).

Assets:
3 CVs
4 CAs (the ones from Guam invasion)
misc. escorts
3-4 submarines
144th inf. reg + a bunch of minor LCUs

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Hong Kong is liberated! - 10/14/2009 9:49:21 AM   
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Very good news from the Chinese front today, so I will start the AAR from here.

First and foremost, Hong Kong was liberated and returned to the Chinese government. The age of unequal treaties is over, and prosperity is returning to China! According to the new really-equal-treaties it will soon be moved to Shanghai and shipped off to Japan for the glory of the empire. :)

IJA losses during the liberation of Hong Kong were surprisingly low, it looks like the British garrison surrendered. I am posting the reports from the last 2 turns:

quote:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 17, 41

Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 26421 troops, 321 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 642

Defending force 6965 troops, 109 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 894

Allied adjusted defense: 345

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
362 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled


Allied ground losses:
604 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 20 (11 destroyed, 9 disabled)


Assaulting units:
66th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
38th Division
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
1st Middlesex Battalion
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
Hong Kong Fortress
Kowloon Brigade


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 18, 41

Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 25962 troops, 321 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 618

Defending force 6050 troops, 107 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 143

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 429

Allied adjusted defense: 85

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
11891 casualties reported
Squads: 332 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 348 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 163 (161 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 92 (88 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units destroyed 5


Assaulting units:
66th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
38th Division
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
1st Middlesex Battalion
Hong Kong Fortress
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Kowloon Brigade


My first impression was that my losses were too light. But maybe this just means that Hong Kong surrendered. I have been bombarding (and rotating my troops to rest) since dec. 11, with more or less constant air bombardment since dec. 7. I know gen. Hartwig has evacuated some troops from Hong Kong since I found the Rifles of Canada in Luzon some time ago, maybe he weakened Hong Kong too much?

Moreover, even with the long siege and bombardment, no serious damage was inflicted to the infrastructures:
no port nor airfield damage
manpower (1)x4
resources (1)x59
HI (2)x78
LI (6)x214
Repair shipyard (1)x49

I think it might have been a somewhat extreme dice roll result... but still I wonder if my losses were too light. I would be interested in knowing what more experienced players think, this is my first PBeM and results against the AI seem to follow different rules anyway. Any comments?



Overview of southern China after the fall of Hong Kong. Note that I have started a large-scale operation to isolate the rebel units in the Wenchow area. So far, I have been unable to detect any enemy reaction to my plan. The rebel Chinese forces seem very passive in the whole theater, I expected far more harassment and resistance here from my experience vs. the AI (but then again, I think the AI has way lower supply and reinforcement problems).





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RE: Hong Kong is liberated! - 10/14/2009 2:09:46 PM   
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December 18, 1941 - off the US coast
The sub patrols off the West coast report interesting activity.




the "ASW attack" was actually a failed attempt at torpedoing Diamond Head. The big question is of course what is Diamond Head doing out there, headed west? I would really like to sink some of those annoying Marines, should she carry any... :)
Needless to say I'm sending a few submarines to "investigate": 2 on the suspected refugees from PH, and 6 on the Diamond Head convoy (I expect only about 4 out of these 6 to be able to reach the area in time)

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RE: Hong Kong is liberated! - 10/14/2009 6:58:14 PM   
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December 18, 1941
Wake Island

KB's dive bombers (121 Vals) attacked the ground troops at Wake.
I used only Vals (and their Zero escort) on purpose, Kates were covering the TFs with naval search/naval strike/rest.
I plan to strike with a similar number of Vals at Midway at the end of the month, but with only half KB. The other half will be carrying the Kates and move to the Rabaul area.
Hopefully this previous "visit" at Wake will reinforce the illusion that the whole KB will be employed at Midway.

Troops should land at Wake next turn.


Ambon area
At the last minute before completing the turn I decided to send the invasion fleet to Ternate even if there were enemy submarines detected in the area. I reasoned that if I fail to secure Manado I really need Ternate to give LRCAP over the Ambon invasion.
As I feared, Manado didn't fall last turn, and an USN submarine torpedoed and sunk APD Hagi at Ternate. Anyway, all troops are safely ashore.
I guess Manado will fall next turn, forts are down to 0 and I have intercepted Dorniers apparently evacuating troops (or sending supply in?).
Davao is occupied. Supply is low, so I am rerouting the last transport at Manado to Davao.

Luzon
A new reinforcement TF has arrived, attracting naval strikes which were met by Zeroes and Nates on CAP. Many planes were reported shot down (5 out of 6 P-35, 3/6 Seagulls, 2/7 B-17, 0/4 P-40), only one of the B-17 strikes managed to reach the ships, but scored no hits.

Troops advancing on San Fernando found 2 armored units there, so their probing attack failed (1:8 odds, 421:81 casualties). They'll try to dig in and await reinforcements (friendly tanks are being unloaded one hex away). This turn I will order an air bombardment with everything available on San Fernando. That should be a LOT of bombs, the only concern is that I am low on fighter escorts due to fatigue. I don't think my opponent's fighters are in a better situation anyway.

Home Islands
First loss of a transport on convoy duty (as opposed to invasion TFs); xAKL Dori Maru was steaming alone from Amami Oshima to Tokyo (it would have then continued to Sapporo), but "south" (mapwise) of Kobe it was torpedoed and sunk by SS Sargo.
Reported count of submarine activity in the Home Islands so far is 2 SS sunk for 1 xAKL sunk... nice ratio, but I guess it's FoW.

Malaya
More routine bombardments. No advance on land, troops are still marching slowly.
Naval search spotted some interesting TFs in western Malaya (I guess they're evacuating troops). Time to activate the torpedo bombers. From Kompong Trach I can set their range so as to avoid both Singapore and Rangoon and still hit the transports.




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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/18/2009 2:00:40 PM   
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December 19, 1941

Off the US coast

A number of submarines were trying to converge on the TFs spotted on Dec. 18.

During the night I-26 makes contact with the TFs heading towards San Diego. Previous Glen naval search reported 6 ships sighted, including 1 CL and 1 DD.
Interception provided some interesting info on the TF.

First, the axis operations report says:
Previous report of sinking of CL Helena incorrect. Ship sighted and engaged at 221, 90

Although Helena doesn't show up in the subsequent submarine attack:
quote:

ASW attack near San Diego at 221,90

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
DD Dale
DD Ward
DD Litchfield

I-26 diving deep ....
DD Ward fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Litchfield fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Litchfield fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Litchfield fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Litchfield fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Litchfield fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Litchfield fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


Note that the "ASW attack" is actually a failed submarine attack, I-26 tried to torpedo DD Dale but missed:




Helena was reported sunk on Dec. 9 even if previous combat reports showed no damage ("CL Helena, Bomb hits 3, on fire").

The interesting thing is that the sunk ships panel now reports Helena sunk on Dec. 19 by a 800 kg bomb at 226, 79.

Sunk? not sunk? who knows? who cares? :P

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The Strange Case of CL Helena - 10/18/2009 2:35:48 PM   
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The following pic places everything in context.
My best guess is that Helena received some low amount of major damage and couldn't be repaired at Pearl Harbor due to shipyard size (which had to be allocated to unseaworthy capital ships). I doubt it sank, as it appeared to still be capable of high speed in order to cover 12 hexes in 2 phases - so flotation damage had to be low until very late in the day. I don't think a single temporary repair failure event could inflict enough flotation damage to sink it, and there isn't time to have more than 1 event happen so close from port.




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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/18/2009 9:56:21 PM   
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Southeastern Pacific

Subs spot a lone xAK and a possibly convoy TF near the Line Islands. The xAK is attacked on the surface and heavily damaged, and now shows as sunk in sunk ships panel. Submarines are converging on the suspected convoy.
Another lone xAK is spotted somewhere between West Coast and Hawai'i, but torpedoes miss.

Wake, Marshall and Gilbert Islands
Invasion TF reaches Wake during the night but for reasons I don't understand it did not unload neither in the night phase nor in the day phase. I will try again unloading/assaulting tomorrow, I hope it's not a bug.
Anyway, bombardment TF shells the beaches, while KB found bad weather so Vals didn't take off to bombard Wake. KB is headed to Kwajalein to resupply and next turn it will be too far from Wake to strike.


Southern Philippine Islands
I-155 attacks on the surface an xAKL and seriously damages it (possibly sunk)

Fortresses bombed the port at Davao, but my invasion TF had already left, I only have a damaged xAKL disbanded in port.

On Dec. 17, I-159 had successfully attacked a xAKL on the surface, spending almost all gun ammo (only 1 "shot" left). So when it detected another xAKL last night it surfaced, aligned its gun on the undefended merchantman, found itself out of ammo, and submerged again without firing a shot.
This is the combat report, in the animations "SS I-159 attacking on the surface" was immediately followed by "SS I-159 low on gun ammo", no shots were fired.

quote:

Submarine attack near Cebu at 80,87

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
xAKL Elcano

xAKL Elcano is sighted by SS I-159
SS I-159 attacking on the surface
SS I-159 low on gun ammo, Yoshimatsu, Tamori breaks off surface engagement and submerges

The submarine still has 100% torpedo ammo, so I guess the crew is a band of maniacs who like to pull pranks and scare to death poor Filipino sailors. Or maybe they had pity of them at the last minute, I don't know.

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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/18/2009 10:14:04 PM   
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December 19, 1941 - the battle of San Fernando, day 2
Yesterday a probing attack at San Fernando was repulsed by a strong Allied garrison, which included US 192 and 194 tank bns.

I feared an immediate counterattack, I don't exactly know how these things are handled by the game but I was rather uneasy at the idea that japanese forces at San Fernando had exactly 14 37mm AT guns to fend off about 90-100 M3 light tanks...
To my surprise, the attack didn't materialize (yet...), and recon actually reports that at least some enemy units are now moving back to Lingayen!

In the meanwhile, I threw anything that could fly and carry a bomb at the enemy tanks. Unfortunately, the Zero sweep arrived after most of the bombers, so the losses were higher than necessary. USAAF attacked the same hex as well with Fortresses.

At the end of the day, losses were:
Anyway, over a number of strikes I have reported:

G3M2: 1 KIA
G4M1: 3 MIA, 1 KIA
A6M2: 1 MIA

Reported Japanese LCU losses: 1 non-combat disabled (I didn't bother to check if this is true)

P40E: 3-5 reported shot down
B17D: 1-3 reported shot down
(the numbers vary between combat animations, combat report or air losses screen)

Reported Allied LCU losses: 1 gun and 1 vehicle destroyed;
2 squads, 12 non-combat, 12 guns and 6 vehicles disabled

I don't know how to consider this outcome... probably inconclusive. I think the game classes motorized support as "vehicles", so I guess about half of the vehicle losses are motorized support, not tanks.
In other words, hardly a scratch in terms of actual losses, but I wonder what effects the bombing had on disruption.

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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/19/2009 1:40:23 PM   
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December 19, 1941 - Malaya
I knew there were ships docked in Tavoy loading troops, and I tried to hit them last turn with a port strike, but discovered port strike won't hit docked ships.
I fail to see the logic here (docked outside port?), but anyway today Nells on naval strike and they heavily damaged 2 xAKL; 231 casualties reported. I guess that the ships will be scuttled if they didn't already sink, as they won't go anywhere with that damage. Hartwig will have to use planes to extract the Tavoy garrison, so I'm setting LRCAP there.

Betties torpedoed and obliterated 3 HDMLs near Georgetown. For some reason, I find the "obliterated" message funny - I guess the virtual HDML crew would disagree with me.

Otherwise, no relevant news - still advancing slowly.




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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 10/19/2009 2:31:27 PM   
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December 19, 1941 - Moluccas
Manado falls. Damage during the three days of combat means the airfield is currently unusable, so a construction unit is being shipped from Babeldaob (I should have thought about this earlier!).
Failed allied submarine attack at Manado, no hits for either side.
Ryujo is now fully replenished at Saigon and will return to the Ambon area. Its air units upgraded to A6M2 and B5M1.

The battleship TF escorting Ambon invasion TF is detected by allied planes and attacked by dutch bombers. No hits, but they engage and positively identify BB Nagato. At the same time I forgot to reduce the range of Zuiho's Kates to their Claude escort's range, so they tried to torpedo ships at Ambon, 4 Kates lost :(

Overall result is that now Hartwig knows that I have at least 3 BBs and 1 CVL (I actually have 6 BBs, 1 CVL and 1 CVE *cough* and another CVL is on its way) and a number of CAs in the area. On the other hand, I discovered 3 allied TFs at Ambon - ABDA cruisers?

I could go ahead and let the allied ships engage my BBs... but moonlight is at 3% (I wished to bombard during new moon, to minimize CD accuracy), so I don't want to expose my BBs to torpedo-armed craft in a night battle. And during the day, Ambon still has CD guns. The safest route would be to send naval strikes first, but that would mean delaying the attack in order to rebase the planes first. I don't know yet what I'll end up doing.




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The day IJN did nothing - 10/24/2009 9:20:52 AM   
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Dec. 20, 1941 - The day IJN did nothing

As per post subject. Today's events were:

Wake: amphibious TF hits this bug http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=2272493, gets 1 ship heavily damaged by CD, immediately aborts unloading and returns to Kwajalein. Back to step 1. In the meanwhile, the bombardment, asw, minesweeping and surface combat TFs are waiting at Wake. To kill time they depth charge SS Gudgeon in the shallow waters around the atoll... engine damage reported, I guess it'll be limping now. A second USN sub is there too.

Ambon area: Marblehead and Houston bombard Ternate and its airfield. The japanese submarine screen reacts but fails to engage them

Malaya: RN bombards Alor Star with 2 CAs and 3 CLs. Luckily my planes are based at Victoria Point instead, but the Nells there as well as Betties in Indochina fail to react to the cruisers.

China: naval bombardment of wenchow accomplishes absolutely nothing. AVG showed up yesterday in central China, and is playing hit and run escorting long-range bombers. Nates have difficulties in engaging them due to range, so I'm just taking the losses (mostly disablements anyway)

Borneo:
139WH keep bombing Brunei's port, which is empty. Too bad my Claudes' CAP fail to damage them every time.

Submarines: 3 japanese sub engagements; 1 miss, 2 fail due to this suspected bug: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2274749.
Allied subs fare worse, SS Sculpin is found, depth charged, forced to surface and sunk by gunfire near Vigan

Air: The only japanese plane sortie that flew on the whole map was 9 sonias and 10 nates in Luzon. They found 4 P40s too, 1 nate lost. The bombers went through unmolested, at least.

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WitP - The struggle against game logic - 10/25/2009 11:46:30 AM   
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December 21, 1942 - Wake Island
Yesterday I had split off most ships in the Wake invasion TF that aborted landing in their own amphibious TF, as suggested as a workaround in the tech support. For some reason (I suspect wishing to land overnight rather than in daylight) they are now taking 2 days to cover the same distance they covered in 1 day when they retreated.

The original TF was down to 1 PB (with 1000 cargo capacity, in order to pick up survivors if the xAK sunk) and the damaged xAK. It wouldn't stay in escort mission mode since the xAK only had 3 flood damage (but 50 fire). I can only guess what then happened during turn execution. Possibly something like:

1. xAK has low flood damage, so TF reverts to amphibious
2. but then xAK takes damage from fires, so, guess what? "Escort TF 268 (1 ship) formed from TF 15 and routed to Kwajalein Island" - meaning that a new escort TF is formed with no PB escort!
3. of course, the xAK then sinks. Since the PB I had assigned to pick up survivors isn't anymore in the sunk ship's TF, no survivors are picked up.

AAAAAARGHHH

I'm getting severely pissed off by the whole Wake operation. Losses are negligible, but losing assets (even if minor ones) due to unfathomable game behavior is annoying.

I have renamed the invasion TF accordingly. Next turn it will reach Wake, I sort of expect it to aground, hit some coral reefs, or self-destroy in some other bizarre way... Who said taking Wake was a walk in the park?




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RE: WitP - The struggle against game logic - 10/25/2009 12:04:40 PM   
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December 21, 1942 - Marshall Islands
Preparations for the next operations are underway:

  • 2 AMCs should unload Tabiteuea tomorrow
  • a barge TF should occupy Makin on dec. 23
  • these TFs have no significant surface escorts but a number of subs are in the area and didn't report anything so far
  • KB was split off (see below). 3 CVs will show themselves at Midway (or possibly Wake, if I keep failing to land my troops there!), 3 CVs will go to the Rabaul area, and the Kongos will raid some target in the Pago Pago area (sketch of the plan is in a previous post)
  • I'm now short of fuel at Kwajalein, but is should still be enough for these operations. A tanker TF is now at Saipan.


The "main" carrier TF (TF 1, i.e., the dec. 7 KB) is leaving today for Truk. It is composed of CVs Akagi, Kaga and Hiryu, i.e., the fuel-hungry ones. The long-term plan is to make them a fleet in being, they're not very economical fuelwise to keep moving around.
Air wings onboard are 50 Zeros, 25 Vals and 109 Kates. I also have 2 Zero pilots and 2 Kate pilots onboard without their own plane, I plan to get some replacement aircrafts for them (plus the usual 4-planes buffer if possible) when I reach Truk.

The "decoy" carrier TF will probably depart tomorrow for Wake. It has 47 Zeros, 100 Vals and 12 Kates. I plan to strike Wake (or Midway) with the Vals, and keep the Kates on naval search to have them spotted.

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RE: WitP - The struggle against game logic - 10/25/2009 12:43:10 PM   
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December 21, 1942 - Approach to Ambon, or Do not Trust the Follow System

For the series "The struggle against game logic", we'll now show what happens if you let try anything complex with follow orders. Luckily no loss so far, although I fear this might mean rearranging the invasion orders again

After my BBs were spotted east of Ternate, I had decided to move the invasion fleet outside of the presumed navsearch sector. I knew the straits east of Ambon were safe because I had a submarine there unmolested since a number of turns, so I ordered the invasion fleet to approach Ambon from the south-east trying to get surprise.

I feared that with very low moonlight (new moon was 3 days ago) a single big TF was unsafe (even if not hit, there is a high risk of collisions between transports in a large TF). So I split it up in 6 smaller TFs, each with its own role and position in the convoy.

Results are shown in the pic. Groan




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RE: WitP - The struggle against game logic - 10/25/2009 1:28:27 PM   
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I feel your pain. Keep on clicking and hurray for the WTF!

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IJNoob strikes back! - 11/18/2009 4:45:07 PM   
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I had to drop the AAR due to a nice streak of Real-World-itis...
first work deadline, then university deadline, then flu (oink!), then... no, wait, I hope it's over now. Luckily flu came last - was a pretty bad experience.

all this also had its effect on the game speed, we've only played 8 turns in the last 3 weeks. Let's try to look at it in a positive light... it sort of makes resuming the AAR easier.

December 21, 1941 - other areas

Philippine Islands

A DD (with CL flagship) surface combat TF "sweeps" known allied MTB in Luzon. 1 MTB sunk, the 3 survivors retreat.
IJA troops secure San Fernando, which was abandoned by Allies the day before.

China
DMSs start clearing Hong Kong's port of mines.
In the south, 88th Chinese Corps is defeated and routed by 22nd IJA division. Battle seems a "case story" of how the current system works, for better or worse:
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Ground combat at 89,56

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4497 troops, 31 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Defending force 4028 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Japanese adjusted assault: 127

Allied adjusted defense: 12

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Note how the number of troops and nominal assault values were very similar. I knew the Chinese unit had been heavily disrupted before the attack. Reported losses were 1588:120

Burma
A night air strike on Rangoon's port hits 2 transports with troops onboard. Back then I thought they were evacuating troops, but on hindsight I now suppose they might have been unloading reinforcements.

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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob - 11/19/2009 4:56:09 AM   
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Thats true but the escort TF should go first and the convoy follow.


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ORIGINAL: rattovolante

I don't think the AE engine allows for the escort TF to "join combat" if the convoy is attacked... otherwise we would have seen some examples in months of playing

so the amphib TFs are on their own if the SCTF doesn't intercept in the first place


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RE: IJNoob strikes back! - 11/19/2009 5:00:53 AM   
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What happened at Ambon ?

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Battle of the Moluccas - 11/19/2009 9:22:50 PM   
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The AAR is now a full week behind the actual game. Since, by chance, most game events reached a sort of conclusion within this same week, I will abandon for the time being the strict (and boring) day-to-day chronological order I used so far, reporting intead on the evolution of events in each area of operations for the week.

I started this as a way to make reporting a whole week easier, but I think it's way better from a narrative point of view than my previous, boring day-to-day chronicle. I'm considering to stick to it for the future, or maybe to alternate between day-to-day and theater-based reports according to what's happening.

Of course, the most important operation of the week was the capture of Ambon, so let's start from there...

BATTLE OF THE MOLUCCAS - DECEMBER 22 TO 24, 1941
22 December 1941:
IJN BBs Hyuga, Ise and Nagato bombard Ambon. Good losses reported to Allied forces - but also 42 runway hits (!)
First IJA troops land at Ambon. For some reason, only the followup TF (which was supposed to land after the main task force) lands.
This means the landed troops are undersupplied fragments of 3rd JNAF AF unit, 4th Engineer Co, Sasebo 8th SNLF, and III/66th Nav Gd. To make things easier, they're immediately bombarded by the defenders.
Luckily I will later discover the BB shore bombardment had apparently devastated allied units.


Night between 22 and 23 December 1941: Battle of the Banda Sea
BB Fuso bombards Ambon. As many losses are reported as the previous night's bombardment (which had three times the firepower). I think this meant the previous bombardment left a lot of disabled/fatigued units.

Main invasion TF (including BB Haruna) finally lands
xAKL Sagoland (apparently docked at Ambon) manages to flee port escaping the IJN surface combat (escort) TF (BB Hyuga, 2 DDs, 3 TBs).

While the surface escort was busy looking for Sagoland, and luckily after the troops had landed, an Allied CL TF attacks the Japanese transports still unloading supply...

  • Allied TF: 4 CLs (Danae, Dragon, Durban, Boise), 1 DD (Barker)
  • Japanese TF: 1 BB (Haruna), 1 CM, 2 DMSs, 6 PBs, 9 xAKs

  • Allied Losses: CL Danae (heavily?) damaged
  • Japanese Losses: 1 PB sunk, 3 PB heavily damaged, BB Haruna and 1 DMS damaged.


The allied TF (except the damaged Danae) then proceeded to engage my ASW TF. I guess my surface combat TF was still looking for xAKL Sagoland...
  • Allied TF: 3 CLs (Dragon, Durban, Boise), 1 DD (Barker)
  • Japanese TF: 4 DDs (Hokaze, Kuretake, Fuyo, Karukaya)

  • Allied Losses: DD Barker sunk
  • Japanese Losses: DDs Kuretake and Karukaya heavily damaged (both later sank from the damage)


A second allied TF then engaged Haruna's TF (again). The IJN surface combat TF was still nowhere to be seen. SS RO-33 had tried to torpedo one of the allied destroyers but missed.
  • Allied TF: 5 DDs (Vampire, Piet Hein, Van Ghent, Encounter, Isis)
  • Japanese TF: 1 BB (Haruna), 1 CM, 2 DMSs, 6 PBs, 9 xAKs

  • Allied Losses: DDs Isis and Van Ghent sunk

  • Japanese Losses: 1 of the damaged PBs sunk, BB Haruna heavily damaged, 2 xAKs heavily damaged (they will sink within the next day)


Haruna and the other damaged ships broke out in their own escort TF, and another combat ensued between the Allied DDs and what was left of the invasion TF:
  • Allied TF: 2 DDs (Vampire, Encounter), 1 DD on fire (Piet Hein)
  • Japanese TF: 1 CM, 1 PB on fire, 6 xAKs, 1 xAK on fire

  • Losses: none

Luckily the Japanese TF managed to evade combat. I guess the allies weren't exactly eager to investigate if Haruna was still there...
And yes, the IJN surface combat TF didn't act again... :P

Lastly I-124 caught the retreating CL Danae and torpedoed it. It probably sunk because later air naval search didn't find it (it was crippled so it couldn't go far without being detected)

23 December 1941:
ABDA planes from Kendari bombed japanese troops onshore at Ambon.
At last, IJN carrier planes sortie to avenge the daring Allied raid on Ambon's fleet! Guess what Allied ship they find, attack and sink? Yes, it's xAKL Sagoland. The Allied warships retreat unmolested (well, except Danae)...
Allied ground bombardment causes some losses to Japanese troops. Japanese troops still didn't attack due to supply issues.

Night between 23 and 34 December 1941
I had to split some ships from the (so far unengaged) surface combat TF to reinforce the (now escortless) amphibious TF.

The reduced IJN surface combat TF finally engaged an Allied DD hunting for stragglers:
  • Allied TF: 1 DD (Encounter)
  • Japanese TF: 1 BB (Hyuga), 1 DD (Yugumo), 3 TB

  • Allied Losses: DD Encounter sunk
  • Japanese Losses: none

This was the usual night engagement at 1000 yard, which started badly with Encounter scoring 5 gun hits on Hyuga. I was afraid it found the range and might torpedo the BB. So when the "torpedoes in the water" message appeared I was surprised to find out that the ship hit was Encounter. Yugumo had hit it with a single torpedo, Encounter sank instantly.

Boise then engaged the amphibious TFs again (they had merged into a single, lightly escorted TF) before they merged with the DDs detached from the surface combat TF. The japanese ships anyway managed to escape after a few rounds of fire without any hits.
  • Allied TF: 1 CL (Boise)
  • Japanese TF: 1 CM, 1 DD, 1 PB, 7 xAK

  • Losses: none


SS Seawolf torpedoed the damaged DD Karukaya but torpedoes didn't explode. Karukaya will anyway sink later from previous damage.
DD Vampire bombards Japanese troops at Ambon, strangely without encountering any TF.

24 December 1941: Battle of Ambon
ABDA planes from Kendari bombard japanese troops at Ambon again. Some Claudes from Hosho and Zuiho were on LRCAP but they achieve nothing at all.
Kates from Zuiho find the retreating DD Vampire and try to torpedo it without result.

Finally, since on dec. 23 the amphibious TF had managed to land enough troops and (more importantly) supply before being attacked, the Japanese forces shock attack the Allied positions at Ambon.
The Ambon defenders surrender. Interestingly enough, the defending units were Molukken Garrison Battalion, 4th Coastal Gun Battalion, Gull Battalion, Sorong Det. Base Force and Ambon Base Force.
I was surprised to see Gull Bn there, looks like Hartwig had committed to reinforcing/holding Ambon.
The very good news is that on the japanese side the only destroyed squads were 3 non-combat, everything else is just disabled.

December 25 to 28, 1941
Some inconclusive ASW-SS skirmishes, and ABDA bombers trying to attack japanese warships at Ambon without effect.
Surprisingly enough, Blenheim IFs (the units in Malaya at the start of the war?) showed up escorting the bombers.


Aftermath
Damage to Ambon infrastructure is 41 port, 44 service and 81 runway. Strangely enough, it didn't repair at all so far (I captured the island on Dec. 24, it's now December 29). A construction unit is on its way to help repairs.

I discovered that apparently service/runway damage affects (non-amphibious) floatplanes/patrols too (operational damage/repair rate) - even if they can properly operate from bases with no airfield at all, operating from a base with a damaged airfield will impair their performance. :)

So I can't use Ambon to immediately secure air superiority over the Banda sea as I had planned. I guess my CVLs will have to remain in the neighbourhood for a while...

Japanese ship losses are:
  • 3 Ansyu PB (10 VP each)
  • 1 Aden Cargo xAK (10 VP)
  • 1 Std-C Cargo xAK (6 VP)
  • 1 To'su PB (1 VP)
  • 2 Wakatake DD (4 VP each)


Ships with major damage are (as of Dec. 29):
  • BB Haruna (see pic) - at Ambon
  • DMS W-14: 35 system, 41(20) flood, 2 engine - at Ambon
  • PB Kenkon Maru: 15 system, 15(1) flood, 2 engine - at Ternate
  • xAK Ansin Maru: 9 system, 1(1) flood, 4 engine - at Ternate


Presumed Allied losses are:
  • CL Danae (23 VP)
  • DD Barker (5 VP)
  • DD Isis (6 VP)
  • DD Van Ghent (5 VP)
  • DD Encounter (6 VP)



AR Akashi is at Babeldaob, I might move it to Ternate when the situation gets safer there (it still gets bombed from time to time by planes from Kendari)

Haruna is currently docked at Ambon itself. It will need to return to the Home Islands and spend quite some time (and supply) in drydock (see pic below). I think it might have been reported as "sunk" by my opponent's FoW.

The battles Haruna got involved in played out be more or less as "Haruna vs. Rest of the World". It received a total of 49 shell and 2 torpedo hits. I consider myself lucky they took place in thunderstorms, as I think stormy weather reduces torpedo accuracy - some more torpedo hits might have sunk her.




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RE: Battle of the Moluccas - 11/19/2009 9:35:27 PM   
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What's your opinion of the fight, feels like a victory or a defeat ? If I'm correct his losses were 4 DD and a CL ? Most of his DD were pretty obselete (especially the dutch), so I'd rate it as a draw or minor allied victory. Merchant and escort hulls are very important for the Japanese and the BB will be in the yard for some time.

The destruction of Gull batallion does show the relative uselessness of sending units forward to defend the DEI. If the Japanese player is somewhat prepared, he'll have more then enough troops to capture a base, despite the reinforcements the allies can bring in.

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RE: Battle of the Moluccas - 11/19/2009 11:10:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

What's your opinion of the fight, feels like a victory or a defeat ? If I'm correct his losses were 4 DD and a CL ? Most of his DD were pretty obselete (especially the dutch), so I'd rate it as a draw or minor allied victory. Merchant and escort hulls are very important for the Japanese and the BB will be in the yard for some time.


Well, I don't know, I'm not very good at adjudicating things from a "victory" point of view.
The naval battle was certainly a minor allied victory. Minor since while I had more losses, it happened too late to affect my main goal (landing troops at Ambon and conquering it).

The land battle was clearly a Japanese victory. I had relatively little losses.

My main goal of securing Ambon and the Banda sea is so far partially accomplished. I say "partially" because for whatever reason the airfield is not repairing so far.
I will try to send more supply and repair units, if it still won't repair, the whole operation was a partial success at best (it did succeed in negating the airfield to the enemy...)

As (unfortunately) made obvious by the sheer amount of firepower I brought at Ambon, it was a key objective in my overall plan, so, well, I might gladly accept a partial success if everything else goes well.

Another thing to consider is that Hartwig had substantially reinforced Ambon. It's not just Gull Bn, he also moved some unit at Namlea (the base 1 hex NW of Ambon), and had moved to Ambon a number of surface combat units from as far as Singapore (and apparently the Blenheim escort fighters moved from Malaya to Kendari). So I think Hartwig was planning something rather large-scale in this area - I have no idea what role Ambon had in his overall defense plan, but I think I might have seriously messed with it.


So, all in all, while my losses were (relatively) high, they might have been worth the conquest of Ambon and possibly ruining my opponent's plans, whatever they were.



BTW I don't think setting up a forward defense at Ambon was a bad move for the Allies. Keep in mind that I went there with something like 6 BBs, 2 CVLs, 1 CVE, a number of CAs etc. A lot of these didn't take part in the combat due to in-game randoms (for example, bad weather meant the CVLs were pretty much pointless), but the invasion succeeded through sheer firepower (land combat was decided by the first day BB shore bombardment).

In other words Hartwig was unlucky that I placed a high priority on Ambon, had prepared enough reserves at Babeldaob to break my way through, and was willing to risk them to break through his defenses. I don't think many Japanese players would make such an "investment" on Ambon this early in the game, against a "normal" Japanese strategy it might have been effective.

for what it's worth, I think a similar scenario is going to take place in Burma - Hartwig appears to have heavily reinforced Rangoon, but I currently have the Imperial Guards division at Moulmein... which I don't think he expected to show up there so early. I didn't expect such a fast reinforcement of Rangoon as well, but I also have more recon planes in the area ;) so I think I have a better grasp of the situation.

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RE: Battle of the Moluccas - 11/20/2009 6:52:18 PM   
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In the meanwhile, a number of hexes away...

The invasion of Rabaul, December 22-28, 1941

December 22:
The Australian navy raids the Japanese outpost at Shortland.
A somewhat funny night engagement follows:
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shortlands at 109,131, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Koei Maru

Allied Ships
CL Adelaide, Shell hits 1



Reduced sighting due to 14% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 14% moonlight: 1,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
Range increases to 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CL Adelaide engages PB Koei Maru at 3,000 yards
Task forces break off...


Combat animation showed "task forces break off" as soon as Adelaide was hit. Just imagine the scene :P

(ok, this was for laughs... Koei Maru is actually a largish PB; Adelaide was engaged beyond sight range, so it could have mistaken the PB for a AMC or CL. Not entirely unreasonable that it didn't press the attack)

Adelaide bombarded Shortlands the same night, destroying a Jake.

During the day Adelaide and Koei Maru met again, but since Adelaide was still on bombardment mission (not surface combat) it avoided combat. Adelaide bombarded again during the day, no losses reported.

December 23:
Another shore bombardment on Shortlands, no losses reported.

December 23-24:
Australian bombers perform ineffective bombing runs on Kavieng and Shortlands.

December 25:
Santa Cat gets on her sled and brings presents to the IJN.
The australian catalina Is (version without torpedoes) bomb an ASW TF at Kavieng sinking 1 PB

December 26:
Catalinas strike again at Kavieng, this time sinking a xAK (which was loading troops for Rabaul) and another PB.

December 27:
Catalinas strike again at Kavieng. I had lost my patience and moved a couple of AA-heavy CAs there - 5 out of 6 planes damaged, no hits on ships :)
After the xAK sinking on the previous day I decided to press the Rabaul invasion on before the Catalinas sunk every transport in the area :p
The 144th inf. regiment is thus landed at Rabaul - almost alone, as most of the other units that were supposed to join in the invasion are still at Kavieng
To my surprise (and relief) the allied bombardment upon my landing show that many of the defenders had already been evacuated.

December 28:
2 PBs and 1 xAKL are damaged by CD while the amphibious TF finishes unloading
IJA secures Rabaul. Most defenders had been evacuated, only 30 nominal AV was left.

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RE: Battle of the Moluccas - 11/20/2009 6:59:27 PM   
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Many hexes to the north-east, another battle was fought

Invasion of Wake, part 2
This had already started some days ago, plagued by one bug and a couple of unexpected game mechanics that combined to cause the almost complete loss of a Naval Guard unit.

December 22:
CM Okinoshima and CM Tokiwa, which were in the amphibious TF still dropping supplies, are damaged by CD guns.
Allied ground bombardment fails. Problem is, Japanese shock attack fails too, and what was left of 61st Naval Guard is virtually wiped out (a large part of the unit sunk with its transport, see some posts above...)

December 23:
CD keeps pounding on the amphibious TF dropping supply. AMC Kongo Maru and AMC Kinryu Maru are (lightly) damaged.
More shore bombardment of Wake by every CL and DD I have there (12 ships). No effect reported, guns are probably too small calibre.

As said above I had split KB in 2 TFs, one carrying torpedo bombers, and the other dive bombers. The dive bombers' TF struck Wake with 99 Vals, without causing many losses but probably raising disruption. Hopefully this also created the illusion that the whole KB is near Wake (I usually don't send Kates to bomb land targets, they're not very effective)

At the turn's end things seem to get better for the Axis. Japanese deliberate attack causes roughly equal losses but drops forts to 1. Allied ground bombardment has no effect.

December 24:
More of the same - CLs, DDs and Vals bombard again. AA shots down 1 Val :(
Finally, a new deliberate attack forces the defenders to surrender. Wake is finally captured, more than a week beyond schedule and with much higher losses (a xAK and virtually a whole Nav.Gd. unit) than expected.

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Imperial Japanese Noob crawls back - 6/6/2010 9:06:29 AM   
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Well, this is an attempt to revive this AAR, some 6 months after I stopped updating it.
The main reason for the stop was that the dreaded real life had hit my schedule... and unfortunately it kept hitting quite hard in the following months, to the point that after about 6 months of real time, our game has only progressed a little more than a month of game time! But in any case, we are apparently are sort of comfortable with such a very slow-paced schedule (read: crawl-speed), so we are going on. I am sorry for Hartwig (my gallant opponent), since by this pace he probably won't ever be able to play the fun part for the allies, namely mid to late war. I want to mention here that he was extremely comprehensive with the delays, which were almost entirely my fault (or actually my real life's fault ;))

So, game date is now February 2 1942, last AAR update was late December 1941. What happened in January? The quick answer is of course "very little of what I had planned" - my initial plan was somewhat flawed (not entirely unexpected, since this is my first PBeM), and the lack of time due to real life constrains made things much worse, as I often sent back turns without having enough time to properly consider every move.

In the end this meant that my main operation (Java landing) is way beyond schedule (about a month!), and dangerously close to the end of the Axis amphibious bonus window - but more of this later. Let's first review what happened so far, only mentioning the interesting parts...

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RE: Imperial Japanese Noob crawls back - 6/6/2010 3:27:25 PM   
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FROM AMBON TO KOEPANG (JAN 1-24, 1942)

Part 1. the aftermath of Ambon

Last days of December and first days of January see many allied air strikes on Ambon trying to sink the damaged Haruna anchored there. Ambon's airfield is a mess, my Zeroes have a bad time trying to fly from the cratered runway (though they score a number of kills too). Haruna's deck armor proves to be too resilient for the bombs available to the allies, but she takes a lot of damage to weaponry, so it will be under repairs for a long time (and I still have to move her to the HI anyway).

On Jan 7, SS Tarpon sights the (heavily escorted) convoy evacuating Haruna to Ternate. I moved a bunch of Zeroes to Ternate, just in case... also, the air base here actually works!

On Jan 9, SS KVII spots my support convoy entering Ternate, containing AR Akashi, AKE Kashino and an AS. This pretty much equals to informing Hartwig that I am building a main base in the Moluccas...


Part 2. The invasion of Kendari

Jan 4
Kendari invasion begins, but finds the allies prepared.
Bombardment TF meets PTs, sinking 2 boats before they disperse. Anyway, this prevents a night bombardment from taking place.
During the day Allied planes attacked the bombardment TF, luckily without serious results. Intel gathered during the (daytime) bombardment showed Sparrow Bn was there (well, looks like gunshells can identify the unit they hit...).


Jan 5
PT boats try another couple of runs at the bombardment TF, losing 1 boat without scoring any hits.
SS-38 is sighted by the amphibious convoy escort and damaged.

Landing begins overnight - but an an Allied surface combat TF engages the amphibious convoy during the day. Unfortunately, the surface combat escort had withdrawn, and the amphibious TF was caught unloading! As I found out, this has a very bad effects on all ships - you know, I thought that the game would only model the transports to “be unloading”, with the warships staying battle-ready and covering the landing ships. But especially Ise's performance was so dismal that I now believe that all ships in the TF take the “getting underway” penalty – in other words, I should have formed two Tfs with the same ships, an amphibious one and a SCTF. At least, all troops were already on shore...

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Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 5
CA Chokai, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage [see below]
CM Itsukushima, Shell hits 5, heavy fires [fires out of control, had to be scuttled]
DD Kuroshio
DD Sawakaze
DD Tachikaze
DD Hasu
DMS W-13, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage [will sink later]
xAK Tarayasu Maru
xAKL Yagi Maru, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Fukuyo Maru, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Tango Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage [will sink later]

Allied Ships
CA Australia
CA Canberra, Shell hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Dragon, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL St. Louis, Shell hits 1
DD Ralph Talbot, Shell hits 1
DMS Southard, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage


More air strikes on my TFs after this (no hits). Later in the same day SS KXIV torpedoes and sinks the crippled CA Chokai.

First day of ground bombardment shows a larger concentration of enemy troops that I had anticipated:
quote:

Kendari Garrison Battalion
Sparrow Battalion
Kendari Base Force
107th RN Base Force
Ternate Det. Base Force /2
Manado Base Force /1


Since my units onshore are just 16th Naval Guard Unit and 9th JNAF Coy, they are pretty much stranded there. Anyway, the naval bombardment probably disrupted Sparrow Bn enough to prevent it from launching a counterattack


Jan 6 to 10
Many Allied air strikes over Kendari - and I could not provide adequate air cover. Anyway, no land counterattack takes place, which is good.


Jan 10
I attempt to reinforce the beachhead with a large fleet, including separate Tfs for surface combat, air combat (Ryujo, Zuiho and Hosho), bombardment and ASW. Again, this found the Allies prepared, I guess the operation was given away by Allied recon or intel.

The SCTF got under attack, first by PTs (1 PT lost, no hit on axis ships), then by SS O20 (no hits), and finally by a largish Allied surface force:

quote:

Japanese Ships
CA Atago, Shell hits 2
CA Myoko, Shell hits 13, on fire
DD Akikaze
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 2
CA Australia
CL Marblehead
CL St. Louis, Shell hits 1
CL Honolulu, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Phelps, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Alden
DD Edsall, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DMS Dorsey


Combat ended up quite well for me, as the Allied commander had managed to cross the T.

Later the same day another submarine was spotted and engaged by my ASW TF
Anyway, the separate SCTF worked, since later in the same day, the bombardment TF and amphibious TF reach the beach unopposed. After the landing was over, the bombardment TF had to fend off the usual PTs (1 boat sunk, no hits), but SS KXVI sunk a xAK.

11 Nells tried to torpedo Indianapolis without results. Zeroes from the CVE/CVLs shot down a Dutch Buffalo, two WH139-3s and two Vildebeests.


Part 3. Allied raids on Ambon

Jan 10
At the same time I was unloading troops at Kendari, an Allied bombardment TF attacked Ambon, sinking two PB, two SC, one xAK and one xAP. The SCTF I usually had at Ambon had moved to Kendari to support the operations there...

Then... a small disaster struck. I had moved the three Katoris in the Moluccas area, planning to use them as raiders in the Indian ocean. The Katori are quite light weapon- and armor-wise, but have a remarkable fuel economy ratio and a floatplane, so they make very nice raiders IMO. Unfortunately, their react setting was too high (I had already set it to their “raiding” value of 6), and they reacted to the Allied TF while cruising between Ambon and Darwin, trying to reach the Indian Ocean. They managed to surprise the Allied ships and to launch Long Lances, but missed with almost everything they had. Engaging proved not to be a wise decision...

quote:

Japanese Ships
CL Katori, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage [will sink later]
CL Kashima, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage [will sink later]
CL Kashii, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage [will sink later]
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 3
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 2, on fire [will sink later]

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 4
CL Java
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Tromp, Shell hits 1
DD Vampire, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Vendetta, Shell hits 3
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 4, on fire


Result... all 3 Katoris sunk at 24 VP each. Most disappointing thing was that the raiding plan had to be scrapped after I had already grouped the other units allocated to it (some smaller ships, a small AO, a couple of glen submarines...)

Since I had moved away the SCTF defending Ambon, I had placed IJNAF on alert, but the results were quite disappointing...

quote:

Morning raid:
8 Zeroes, 3 Nells, 9 Betties tried to hit the retreating allied TF, but scored no hits, losing 1 Nell and 1 Betty (in exchange of a Demon).
11 Nells attacked the allied TF at Kendari instead, with no hits.
5 Betties attacked a small TF docked at Koepang, with no hits.

Afternoon raid:
8 Zeroes and 9 Betties scored a single torpedo hit on CA Minneapolis, shooting down a Demon in the process
9 Nells attacked the TF at Koepang again, with no hits


At least, SS RO-34 torpedoes CL De Ruytier, which was lagging behind the rest of the TF, having received engine damage during the battle with the Katoris.


Jan 11
As an example of the kind of bad decisions I make when I don't have enough time to plan turns, I had sent DD Hayashio to engage the crippled CL De Ruytier (which by now I knew was traveling very, very slowly). Slow known target against a fast torpedo-armed destroyer, what can go bad? Well, for example, the destroyer firing its torpedoes at maximum range and missing, then closing up, only to be mauled in very few hits by the cruiser's guns...

quote:

Japanese Ships
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 4, heavy fires [will later sink]

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage


Back in Kendari, the first Japanese deliberate attack failed, with low losses on both sides.


Jan 14 to 18
From now on Kendari was hit by allied air strikes on an almost daily basis, which prevented my units to recover disruption. Of course I did the same with Betties. Neither side managed to provide decent fighter air cover...

Second Japanese deliberate attack on Kendari failed on Jan 13, this time with heavier Axis losses.

On Jan 16, more reinforcements land at Kendari, and on Jan 17 the first successful japanese attack is made, bringing forts down to 1. The next attack was repulsed by the Allies with heavy losses (axis:allied at 1:2 ratio, losses were 93:344). By now the forces on the field were:

quote:

Assaulting units:
Kendari Garrison Battalion
Sparrow Battalion
Kendari Base Force
107th RN Base Force

Defending units:
15th Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
III./4th Infantry Battalion
16th Naval Guard Unit
9th JNAF Coy


At Ambon, the lone DD Piet Hein bombarded Ambon on Jan 15. A daring move, but effective – it destroyed a Zero on ground and sunk three PB that engaged it. I suppose CL Durban was initially supposed to take part in the bombardment as well, but it ended up being too near my Koepang invasion fleet and had been sunk by Kates the day before (see below). Another PB was lost to a submarine.

Piet Hein, still alone, was finally sunk by I-156 on Jan 18 near Kolaka – no idea where it was headed, possibly another raid.


Part 4. Invasion of Koepang
The invasion of Koepang was initially planned to begin after Kendari was secured, but the stall there as well as the vulnerability of my rear lines at Ambon induced me to hit it sooner, drop the troops and let them work it out on their own. I assembled a large fleet, using many of the warships that supported the reinforcement landing at Kendari of Jan 10.


Jan 13
Betties and Nells launch a strike on allied shipping at Koepang, torpedoing a TK and sinking a xAK. I tried to make this look like a routine air raid, but it probably caused every good cargo ship in the harbor to flee south.


Jan 14
The bombardment TF finds some shipping in the harbor and sinks two AM and a TK, and causes serious damage to the runway – which anyway was empty of enemy planes.

Some Betties, which were supposed to support the invasion, find CL Durban near Lautem (on the other end of Timor) and attack it without results; anyway a second wave of Kates from Zuiho torpedoes and sinks it.


Jan 15
The real invasion begins.
Pre-invasion bombardment showed a surprise since the previous day... 55th British Brigade is at Koepang. I guess the Allied plan was to repeat the Kendari stalemate on a larger scale, but I felt I have enough firepower to handle this...
The unloading of IJA 65 Brigade is a mess though, and I get 149 casualties reported. Very important thing to note: it is new moon (3% moonlight)!

The surface combat TF (this time quite big, 12 ships including Hyuga) sinks the last transports leaving Koepang (1 xAK, 2 xAP)

I was trying to trap as much shipping as possible in Koepang, but a large number of transports had already left Koepang in the previous days, because Ryujo, which was acting as forward scout (a role that was originally assigned to the now-sunk Katoris...), had a quite close encounter with...

quote:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Sawoe Islands at 64,117, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo
DD Yugumo
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tokitsukaze

Allied Ships
AM Wollongong
xAP Rochussen
xAP Rooseboom
xAP Siberg
xAP Speelman
xAP Van Neck
xAP Van Rees
DE Sutlej

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 20,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat



Ground combat showed the defending units in Koepang to be:

quote:

Timor Garrison Battalion
Dili Detachment
55th British Brigade
Den Passer Base Force
107th RN Base Force /2
102nd RN Base Force /1
100th RN Base Force
Manado Base Force /2
Koepang Base Force
Kendari Base Force /1
Asiatic Fleet /4
Mataram Base Force /1



Jan 16:
A large number of Allied submarines converge on Koepang. My ASW TFs manage to keep them at bay, though.


Jan 17:
DD Van Nes tries to raid Koepang and stumbles into my very small bombardment TF.

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Koepang at 68,118, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
CA Tone
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
DD Van Nes


...It is remarkable to note that my TF had surprised Van Nes – only to fire long lances on it and miss... are those guys aware of how much 61 cm torpedoes cost, anyway? ;)

The funny thing is that during the day, Van Nes struck back:

quote:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Koepang at 67,117, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 1
CA Tone
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
DD Van Nes, Shell hits 2


...but only on the third attempt my surface combat TF finally decided to react!

quote:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Koepang at 68,116, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
CA Haguro, Shell hits 1
CA Ashigara
CL Kinu
CL Kiso
DD Kuroshio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
DD Van Nes, Shell hits 11, and is sunk



Part 5. End of the Moluccas campaign

Koepang
After Van Nes' raid, no relevant Allied actions took place at Koepang, except for long range air strikes, not very effective in any case.
The huge disruption caused by the new moon landing forced my troops at Koepang to wait for reinforcements, which arrived on Jan 20. The first Japanese attack took place on Jan 21, reducing forts to 1. A second attack on Jan 23 reduced forts to 0; Koepang was finally captured on Jan 24.


Kendari
Air raids from both sides continued. Allied forts were reduced to 0 in the Japaneseattack of Jan 20, but both a shock attack on Jan 21 and a deliberate attack on Jan 22 failed to capture the base (each time reducing forts from 1 to 0...). Finally by Jan 23 the forts had not rebuilt to 1, and Kendari fell.


Pursuing the Koepang transports
After the close encounter with Ryujo, I had sent a number of units trying to sink those fleeing ships, with somewhat disappointing results...

Kates from Zuiho sunk xAP Van Neck, xAP Van Rees, xAP Rochussen and xAK Hanyang (RO-33 failed to torpedo the last ship the day before)
Jeans from Hosho (yes, I'm keeping Jeans on it, trying to mimic the historical limits of the ship) sunk xAK Gogra.
I-157 sunk xAP Siberg.

I had sent three DD on patrol south of Koepang in search of escaping cargoes, but...
quote:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Broome at 61,121, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze
DD Asakaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
xAK Taiyuan
AVP Arend
AG Albatros

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Allied TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 17,000 yards...
Allied Transport TF evades combat


In the end I decided to substitute the Katori cruisers with Ryujo, and slipped it west of Koepang after the invasion... but I kept forgetting to give new orders to her resting Mabels, until...
quote:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island IO at 48,114, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo
DD Yugumo
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tokitsukaze

Allied Ships
TK Marpessa

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
Range increases to 20,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat


Ryujo has since reached my secret base in the Indian Ocean along with a few submarines. Even if it was spotted twice by enemy transports near Koepang, I think my opponent is still unaware of its presence west of Java!

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Trying to revive this thread again (with yet a different format). The main reason for doing this is that I'm somewhat stuck in game. My plans didn't go too well in game, although I think I should be satisfied with the outcome considering this was my first game overall (I had played the AI for a month or so before starting the game, but it proved somewhat boring)

Some preliminary considerations:
  • Turn rate is very slow - this more or less suits both players anyway. After about a year of real time, game has only advanced to late February 1942. The game did speed up greatly in the last month or so as I was unemployed, but that will end in 2 weeks from now...
  • Flaws in the Japanese strategy are apparent by now, but - well, this was my first game, duh. Also, some of the strategic choices that might have had some sense in the first patch (such as rushing Imperial Guards division to Burma in December 1941, to prevent Allies razing the industry there through partisans) are completely pointless by now. Well, at least I didn't send KB cruising through Singapore's hex in early January 1942, as I managed to do in my first game vs. AI (I set "direct route" and forgot to set a waypoint bypass around the CD) :)
  • No signs of Allied carriers even since the war started. I have no idea what they are up to, but apparently they missed more than one occasion of wreaking havoc on Japanese forces (and only some of these occasions were “carrier bait”...). So I'm beginning to think they're waiting somewhere... which brings the question: what are they waiting for?


January 1942, IJN raid in the Pacifc
Premise: in the first days of January I experimented a bit with SSX and submarine-laid mines at Pago-Pago, with very little results (i.e.: they both appear to be useless – this means I will have to experiment more of course ). Anyway, the subs involved spotted a number of cargo ships in the area, which led me to conclude that Pago-Pago is a major USN base in this game.




My raiding CVs (Zuikaku, Shokaku and Soryu) attacked Canton Island on Jan 10, hitting a lone xAK and the base force there. I had swamped the area with submarines, wishing to provoke an Allied reaction, but nothing materialized. Apparently Hartwig has not reinforced or developed the base.

In the meanwhile, SigInt had catched up heavy radio from Suva, and since I had carriers and subs right there, I decided to check it out... The raiding carrier TF manouvered around Suva and attacked it from the west on Jan 19 and Jan 20. In 2 days the consolidated report was:
  • Sunk outright:
    • 3 DDs (Tucker, MacDonough and Hull)
    • 1 xAK

  • Heavy fires, heavy damage
    • 3 xAKs
    • AP Tasker H. Bliss
    • AE Lassen, 2 AGs (J.L. Luckenbach, Sirius), AVP Avocet, AVD Ballard

  • Other damage:
    • 1 xAK “on fire”
    • 2 APs: U. S. Grant “heavy fire”, AP Henry T. Allen “on fire, heavy dmg”
    • AKE Cynthia Olson “on fire”, AS Fulton -heavy fire

  • Other ships spotted:
    • AP Wharton: 1 bomb hit, but no dmg/fire reported
    • AD Dixie: 2 bomb hits, no dmg/fire reported
    • AM Grebe: no hits

I was also reported having sunk 44 vehicles on board of the transport - but these probably were motorized support rather than tanks.

Unfortunately, after the first day of strikes, the allied had flown in a number of Airacobras at Suva, so the second day was somewhat less pleasant, as I met 41 P-39D. Anyway, I suppose the Airacobra pilots were fatigued by the transfer as they were not as effective as they might have been.

Cumulative air losses for the two days (as reported in combat report, so FoW is on also for the Japanese side) were:
  • A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
  • B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
  • D3A1 Val: 9 destroyed, 58 damaged
  • P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed

Note that onboard the carriers I had only 1 group of Kates but 5 groups of Vals. I did not expect to fight battleships, so the Val payload seemed more efficient. A number of damaged planes crashed on landing but pilot losses were less than I feared.

Since my raiding TF was still only made up of 3 CVs, I was somewhat afraid of being intercepted by USN carriers. So, after studying the situation a little, I decided that the best route out of Suva would have been crossing south and east of it, in the process showing up at Pago Pago which I already knew was a busy port. It was somewhat of a gamble since I didn't know (and still do not know!) the whereabouts of enemy carriers, but I supposed that he wouldn't imagine my CV TF withdrawing east.
I was quite lucky with my findings... I encountered a small CAP of 5 P-40B, but I found:
  • CL Phoenix -heavy fire, heavy damage
  • DD O'Brien -no hits
  • DD Dale -heavy fire, heavy damage
  • DD Walke -no hits
  • AK Procyon -sunk
  • AKV Kittyhawk -heavy fire
  • AKV Hammondsport -heavy fire, heavy damage


Air losses:
  • A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
  • D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 47 damaged
  • P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed

The interesting thing is that the intel screen showed a very large number of P-40E destroyed on ground, so I suppose at least one of those AKVs was loaded.

Suva and Pago-Pago appear to be key bases for the USN, while Canton Island apparently isn't. Later sigint reported heavy radio from Tahiti as well, so Hartwig appears to have taken a rather southern route for his convoys. Recon during and after the strikes reported about 22000 troops, 200 guns and 150 AFV at Suva, and some 3500 troops at Pago-Pago. Suva now has an airfield size 4, too.

The main problem now was to disengage the carriers soon enough to have them available in Java by the middle of February, but no enemy ship showed up in pursuit.

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