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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 12:13:54 AM   
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A problem for some teams, like the USA & Aus, is that we dont get a lot of chance to play as a team and it takes a few games to get into gear, if you last that long.

Tough draw for you tomorrow mate. Not much talk about the Germans, but hey usually show up prepared.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 12:48:15 AM   
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Tough draw for you tomorrow mate. Not much talk about the Germans, but hey usually show up prepared.




I would bet the austrailians show up, unlike the poles in the last world cup. Funny how history repeats itself.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 12:59:08 AM   
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I would bet the austrailians show up, unlike the poles in the last world cup. Funny how history repeats itself.

Well I'll be pulling for the diggers but I will be drinking my favorite German beer.





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ORANJES!!! - 6/13/2010 9:10:03 AM   
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c´mon Holland!!!
Most beautiful, powerful highspeed soccer in the modern age. Period.

Too bad that they have the habit of losing in the finals after steamrolling everyone in the group phase.



I think I will cross fingers for Australia tonight though. At least my country gets confused with you Aussies by geographically less gifted
on a regular basis.


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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 10:55:29 AM   
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I would bet the austrailians show up, unlike the poles in the last world cup. Funny how history repeats itself.

Well I'll be pulling for the diggers but I will be drinking my favorite German beer.






heh, I am from Munich and we call Spatenbräu ("Spade brewery") derogatory Schaufelbier ("shovel beer") and it´s generally considered as the worst beer of Munich´s brands.
Most liked beer is "Augustiner" (at least in my circle of friends).

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 11:05:40 AM   
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BTW, does England have a better second choice for keeper? Might want to consider that before benching Green...


I refer you to post #73



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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 11:28:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why doesn't everyone lay off Robert Green?

Okay he made a very elementary error - and because he is a goalkeeper and their gaffes are normally more high profile -his mistake and his mistake alone apparently, cost us the win. BUT you may want to ask what the hell Heskey was doing shooting straight at Howard when clean through, or the Wright-Phillips "effort" - albeit from a more difficult angle.

Personally I would have liked to see Hart play because for a youngster he seems to have great confidence, has had a great season with Birmingham - and he looks the part. But bringing a relatively inexperienced player into such a big game would have been a massive risk - remember Scott Carson and Croatia anyone? remember Peter Shilton vs Poland in 1973 and dare I mention Peter Bonetti......

Oh and I forgot - well done USA - hope we both progress to the last 16.



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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 11:43:30 AM   
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Why doesn't everyone lay off Robert Green?

Okay he made a very elementary error - and because he is a goalkeeper and their gaffes are normally more high profile -his mistake and his mistake alone apparently, cost us the win. BUT you may want to ask what the hell Heskey was doing shooting straight at Howard when clean through, or the Wright-Phillips "effort" - albeit from a more difficult angle.

Personally I would have liked to see Hart play because for a youngster he seems to have great confidence, has had a great season with Birmingham - and he looks the part. But bringing a relatively inexperienced player into such a big game would have been a massive risk - remember Scott Carson and Croatia anyone? remember Peter Shilton vs Poland in 1973 and dare I mention Peter Bonetti......

Oh and I forgot - well done USA - hope we both progress to the last 16.




I don't particularly blame Rob Green for the mistake, as you say they happen and 'keepers don't have anyone to cover their mistakes. He shouldn't have cocked up like he did, but it's not the end of the world. The team is 11 players, maybe the defence should have been closing Dempsey down...

As for Joe Hart, I've felt he's the best choice for a while now. If you're good enough then you're old enough and there's only one way to gain experience of playing in the World Cup. We're hardly blessed with an excess of good English goalkeepers (or defenders) right now.

I'd be happy to see the US in the last 16 as well.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 11:45:43 AM   
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heh, I am from Munich and we call Spatenbräu ("Spade brewery") derogatory Schaufelbier ("shovel beer") and it´s generally considered as the worst beer of Munich´s brands.
Most liked beer is "Augustiner" (at least in my circle of friends).

Choices are limited in the states. I am sure you are correct. Please send over a case and I will do the comparison I like Pilsner's is this the label I should be looking for?





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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 11:54:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dixie

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Why doesn't everyone lay off Robert Green?

Okay he made a very elementary error - and because he is a goalkeeper and their gaffes are normally more high profile -his mistake and his mistake alone apparently, cost us the win. BUT you may want to ask what the hell Heskey was doing shooting straight at Howard when clean through, or the Wright-Phillips "effort" - albeit from a more difficult angle.

Personally I would have liked to see Hart play because for a youngster he seems to have great confidence, has had a great season with Birmingham - and he looks the part. But bringing a relatively inexperienced player into such a big game would have been a massive risk - remember Scott Carson and Croatia anyone? remember Peter Shilton vs Poland in 1973 and dare I mention Peter Bonetti......

Oh and I forgot - well done USA - hope we both progress to the last 16.




I don't particularly blame Rob Green for the mistake, as you say they happen and 'keepers don't have anyone to cover their mistakes. He shouldn't have cocked up like he did, but it's not the end of the world. The team is 11 players, maybe the defence should have been closing Dempsey down...

As for Joe Hart, I've felt he's the best choice for a while now. If you're good enough then you're old enough and there's only one way to gain experience of playing in the World Cup. We're hardly blessed with an excess of good English goalkeepers (or defenders) right now.

I'd be happy to see the US in the last 16 as well.


It's brutal... English newspapers already call Green's mistake "The Hand of Clod"...


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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 12:12:40 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 12:28:54 PM   
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And we shake our heads at the sports press in Italy and Spain...

Warspite1

Not really - Its the same the world over, they are trying to sell newspapers......

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 12:33:43 PM   
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Hi all,

It's brutal... English newspapers already call Green's mistake "The Hand of Clod"...


Leo "Apollo11"


I assume you're talking about The Sun, People, News of the World et al? Hardly newspapers...

It's because having won the WC once we're clearly entitled to win it again and be favourites to do so every time. Never mind the fact that we're a quarter-final level nation, the red-tops demand tournament success and any failure to beat a "lesser" team like the USA needs a villain to blame.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:02:37 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:07:29 PM   
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heh, I am from Munich and we call Spatenbräu ("Spade brewery") derogatory Schaufelbier ("shovel beer") and it´s generally considered as the worst beer of Munich´s brands.
Most liked beer is "Augustiner" (at least in my circle of friends).

Choices are limited in the states. I am sure you are correct. Please send over a case and I will do the comparison I like Pilsner's is this the label I should be looking for?






Sorry, I have to drink the whole case for myself ;-)

Yes, that´s Augustiner "Edelstoff" ("classy stuff") , a little stronger than the Augustiner "Hell" ("blond"), which I prefer. But it´s no Pils, that kind of beer is called "Helles", I think it can be compared to a Lager.
Unfortunately I don´t know of any Pils brewed in Munich.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:09:38 PM   
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By that logic, Denmark should have won every European Championship since 1992...


You have the News of the World in Denmark as well?

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:13:13 PM   
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By that logic, Denmark should have won every European Championship since 1992...


Well, you have Bendtner. Some cruel commentator said in one of the Arsenal's Premier League games:

"They should train Bendtner as central defender. That way his ability to miss goal would actually be beneficial!"

Well, I think he is OK, but it's cruel world out there!

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:13:23 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:28:20 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:33:38 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 1:36:25 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 2:01:54 PM   
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Guees that Robert Green is going to emigrate to Greenland?

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 2:03:24 PM   
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I just heard from TV that France has made an appeal to ban vuvuzelas. Now organizers have to consider that they ban vuvuzelas from stadium area. I don't have high hopes, but fingers crossed...

Hate to admit it but I sometimes play a vuvuzela during some of the really good after action reports!

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 2:07:46 PM   
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You have to drink this German wheat beer. One of the best to me. If not the best

Damn, you guys are going to make me go down to the beer distributor today. Have to go to one about 20 minutes away. Should be time right after the Serbia Ghana match. Germany Australia starts 2:30 my time. Saw a good twitter this week. "Best thing about the world cup? A reason to drink at 7:30 AM!"


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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 2:10:42 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 2:13:57 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 2:17:09 PM   
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Turned the game on and after 10 minutes turned it off again just cannot take those bloody horns

I thought I would get used to it after 3 days. Nope, just as annoying as the first day. I hope these things don't catch on elsewhere.

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 3:50:02 PM   
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Let's hope the Football Machine vs Random Victim this evening is a good match...

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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 5:08:37 PM   
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RE: OT World Cup 2010 South Africa - 6/13/2010 5:52:17 PM   
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I hope these things don't catch on elsewhere.


I have a bad feeling about this. Stupidity of people seems to be endless.

If people in South Africa thinks that plastic horns "Made in China" are part of their culture, that's fine. I can watch these games, but major part of the football atmosphere is gone.

I really, really hope these things don't catch on elsewhere.

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