warspite1
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ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus Warspite1, but when Wenger chooses a foreign guy it's not because he does not like the English players. It's because he considers that player is better than his English counterparts. He might be wrong though. When a foreign coach appears, he will be choosing players he knows (from his previous league or country). This is absolutely natural Anyway, er, as for your Scotland example... The problem is you are talking about a very tiny country, so, having excellent players is simply against the odds (kudos to Holland on this one). Brazilians have many excellent players because literally millions of kids play football. How many Scottish kids play football? 12.000? 70.000?). And England, well, I think they could beat anyone, so that makes them potential winners of this WC. And they have some world-class players (Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard), that's what makes the difference. Warspite1 I did not say its because Wenger does not like English players - although frankly, I would not blame him if he didn't. Look at some of the expensive mistakes he has made in the transfer market or problems he has had with homegrown players: Jeffers (English), Wright (English), possibly Walcott (English), Bentley (English) Pennant (English). I don't care if he likes them or not - the fact is he rarely buys them - liking has nothing to do with the discussion. Equally the point you make with the foreign coach is the point I made earlier. More foreign coaches = possibly more foreign players; again perfectly natural. The point you are missing or ignoring is that too much of those two examples = fewer English players.... Not sure why Scotland got a . But again your answer shows the point is missed completely. This is not about excellent players and that if there were no, or a limited no. of foreign players in their leagues, Scotland or England suddenly become world beaters. That is not what is being said. I repeat, for the sake of Scottish and English and Spanish (although if you are right then they don't need it) football, there should be a minimum number of homegrown players playing regularly for each club - including the top ones, and (in the case of Scotland) Celtic and Rangers. Look at a recent Scottish team to play in a World Cup qualifier: players from Norwich City, Bristol City, Derby County, Sheffield United and Motherwell. In the 70's and 80's she was a regular World Cup qualifier. Now she is nothing of the sort. As for your final paragraph; when playing for their clubs Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard are world beaters - but who is following in their footsteps.....? This is the issue. Anyway, I think I've flogged a deadhorse long enough and we are clearly going to agree to disagree. Never mind, I've enjoyed the debate - hope you have too
< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/19/2010 8:21:15 PM >
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