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Wodin - I wouldn't bother replying m8 - he's got an agenda and by replying specifically, his little devious wee plan is working.

This is not true. What gets me about the brits is this.....They are more than happy to affend you, but in return of being offended themselves, well this is an outcry!!! You become petty. It's alright to call American's rebel's, it's alright to downplay America's role in both World Wars, It's alright to accept 50 billion in aid to fight those wars and never pay it back......It's alright...................

There is no doubt that Lend Lease and the massive production capacity of the US did wonders for ther UK war effort. The cost involved were staggering, so staggering that we only finished paying for it in 2006.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6215847.stm

Cheers

Jev

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Wodin - I wouldn't bother replying m8 - he's got an agenda and by replying specifically, his little devious wee plan is working.

This is not true. What gets me about the brits is this.....They are more than happy to affend you, but in return of being offended themselfs, well this is an outcry!!! You become petty. It's alright to call American's rebel's, it's alright to downplay America's role in both World Wars, It's alright to accept 50 billion in aid to fight those wars and never pay it back......It's alright...................

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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Politics and pressure as early as 1915 from England and France when it became clear that they could not finish the Germans off by themselfs.

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Wodin - I wouldn't bother replying m8 - he's got an agenda and by replying specifically, his little devious wee plan is working.

This is not true. What gets me about the brits is this.....They are more than happy to affend you, but in return of being offended themselfs, well this is an outcry!!! You become petty. It's alright to call American's rebel's, it's alright to downplay America's role in both World Wars, It's alright to accept 50 billion in aid to fight those wars and never pay it back......It's alright...................

Warspite1

I said before that I couldn't face going back and forth but what the hell....

You delight in "Brit" bashing suggesting that we are all the same and therefore, we all act alike (arrogant apparently) and think alike (down play America's role in WWII). Well listen, I would never, have never, down played the US contribution to WWII. The Royal Navy fought superbly in that war and with great bravery; especially in the Mediterranean. They took a real hammering from the Luftwaffe, especially in 1941. But without the aid of the US ship yards, we may even have had to suspend operations there. The greatest battleship ever built (can you guess which ) was one of those recipients. Thank-you America for your assistance in WWII.

You think we took £50bn in aid and never paid it back? Is that right? Is it?

Tell you what, why don't you get yourself off to school and learn something. From your posts I have read I suggest:

- History (a balanced perspective is always a good idea)
- English Language (sorry don't mean to affend themselves with an outcry )
- Manners and civility (yes the above comment was cheap and I feel guilty writing it but I guess you've brought me down to your level - well done).

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Wodin - I wouldn't bother replying m8 - he's got an agenda and by replying specifically, his little devious wee plan is working.

This is not true. What gets me about the brits is this.....They are more than happy to affend you, but in return of being offended themselfs, well this is an outcry!!! You become petty. It's alright to call American's rebel's, it's alright to downplay America's role in both World Wars, It's alright to accept 50 billion in aid to fight those wars and never pay it back......It's alright...................

Warspite1

I said before that I couldn't face going back and forth but what the hell....

You delight in "Brit" bashing suggesting that we are all the same and therefore, we all act alike (arrogant apparently) and think alike (down play America's role in WWII). Well listen, I would never, have never, down played the US contribution to WWII. The Royal Navy fought superbly in that war and with great bravery; especially in the Mediterranean. They took a real hammering from the Luftwaffe, especially in 1941. But without the aid of the US ship yards, we may even have had to suspend operations there. The greatest battleship ever built (can you guess which ) was one of those recipients. Thank-you America for your assistance in WWII.

You think we took £50bn in aid and never paid it back? Is that right? Is it?

Tell you what, why don't you get yourself off to school and learn something. From your posts I have read I suggest:

- History (a balanced perspective is always a good idea)
- English Language (sorry don't mean to affend themselves with an outcry )
- Manners and civility (yes the above comment was cheap and I feel guilty writing it but I guess you've brought me down to your level - well done).

lol...well I see then. Every post you write, you prove my point about MY view on you. SO I had a typo I guess I have this philosophy so what? Saying things that you take cheap shots, and being brought down to my level are things arrogant people say(once again thank you for proving my point about you're kind, it makes me want to go out and get some fish and chips).

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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Politics and pressure as early as 1915 from England and France when it became clear that they could not finish the Germans off by themselfs.

"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.

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nah....not into sipping tea

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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Wodin - I wouldn't bother replying m8 - he's got an agenda and by replying specifically, his little devious wee plan is working.

This is not true. What gets me about the brits is this.....They are more than happy to affend you, but in return of being offended themselves, well this is an outcry!!! You become petty. It's alright to call American's rebel's, it's alright to downplay America's role in both World Wars, It's alright to accept 50 billion in aid to fight those wars and never pay it back......It's alright...................

There is no doubt that Lend Lease and the massive production capacity of the US did wonders for ther UK war effort. The cost involved were staggering, so staggering that we only finished paying for it in 2006.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6215847.stm

Cheers

Jev

Catch 22....money loaned just in the years 1945 and 1946......1947 to 1987 not paid. 1914-1919 not paid. 1939-1944 not paid.

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Politics and pressure as early as 1915 from England and France when it became clear that they could not finish the Germans off by themselfs.

You mean like by not conducting an unrestricted submarine campaign, by not sinking passenger liners and by not offering parts of the US to Mexico?

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nah....not into sipping tea

Warspite1

You should try it...we drink from delicate floral patterned cups with our little pinkies in the air. And while holding a plate full of cucumber sandwiches in the other hand, we discuss the merits of the LBW rule with the vicar.

Also, did you know that according to Mel Gibson, thats what the English were doing at Gallipoli while the Anzacs were dying on the beaches? Drinking tea that is, not talking to the vicar.

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Wodin - I wouldn't bother replying m8 - he's got an agenda and by replying specifically, his little devious wee plan is working.

This is not true. What gets me about the brits is this.....They are more than happy to affend you, but in return of being offended themselves, well this is an outcry!!! You become petty. It's alright to call American's rebel's, it's alright to downplay America's role in both World Wars, It's alright to accept 50 billion in aid to fight those wars and never pay it back......It's alright...................

There is no doubt that Lend Lease and the massive production capacity of the US did wonders for ther UK war effort. The cost involved were staggering, so staggering that we only finished paying for it in 2006.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6215847.stm

Cheers

Jev

Catch 22....money loaned just in the years 1945 and 1946......1947 to 1987 not paid. 1914-1919 not paid. 1939-1944 not paid.

Dont forget that there were non monetory payments included in Reverse Lend Lease consisting of leasing of land to the US to build various bases. Add to that the gift of scientific research ie. Radar, Huff Duff, ASDIC etc that continued even after the war was over.

To tie the repayment of Lend Lease to just monitory value and dollars repaid is innacurate.

Cheers

Jev

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Now those passenger liners just had passengers and nothing else right?

"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.

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nah....not into sipping tea

Warspite1

You should try it...we drink from delicate floral patterned cups with our little pinkies in the air. And while holding a plate full of cucumber sandwiches in the other hand, we discuss the merits of the LBW rule with the vicar.

Also, did you know that according to Mel Gibson, thats what the English were doing at Gallipoli while the Anzacs were dying on the beaches? Drinking tea that is, not talking to the vicar.

with your dentist right?

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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Now those passenger liners just had passengers and nothing else right?

Compare and contrast with how the RN enforced it's blockade of Germany. How many ships were sunk without warning?

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Well the Germans did publish what they where going to do. And it was war.

"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.

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nah....not into sipping tea

Warspite1

You should try it...we drink from delicate floral patterned cups with our little pinkies in the air. And while holding a plate full of cucumber sandwiches in the other hand, we discuss the merits of the LBW rule with the vicar.

Also, did you know that according to Mel Gibson, thats what the English were doing at Gallipoli while the Anzacs were dying on the beaches? Drinking tea that is, not talking to the vicar.

with your dentist right?

Warspite1

No - I said the vicar. We don't use dentists in the UK. The Dental Association said we should but we are all too bloody arrogant to agree with them - what do they know? More tea vicar?

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you have some good points. The US sold weapons to the allies, the allies where struggling, allies kept asking when is America going to join. Now those passenger liners just had passengers and nothing else right? Parts of US to Mexico was a major fubar on Germany's part.

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Well the Germans did publish what they where going to do. And it was war.

And the unrestricted submarine war campaigns were the main reason America entered on the side of the Allies.

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nah....not into sipping tea

Warspite1

You should try it...we drink from delicate floral patterned cups with our little pinkies in the air. And while holding a plate full of cucumber sandwiches in the other hand, we discuss the merits of the LBW rule with the vicar.

Also, did you know that according to Mel Gibson, thats what the English were doing at Gallipoli while the Anzacs were dying on the beaches? Drinking tea that is, not talking to the vicar.

with your dentist right?

Warspite1

No - I said the vicar. We don't use dentists in the UK. The Dental Association said we should but we are all too bloody arrogant to agree with them - what do they know? More tea vicar?

I don't think I'm better than you if this is what you mean. Vicar has many meanings.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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Well the Germans did publish what they where going to do. And it was war.

And the unrestricted submarine war campaigns were the main reason America entered on the side of the Allies.

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you have some good points. The US sold weapons to the allies, the allies where struggling, allies kept asking when is America going to join. Now those passenger liners just had passengers and nothing else right? Parts of US to Mexico was a major fubar on Germany's part.

Why do you keep calling them 'The Allies'? By the time the remaining 'Entente' became "The Allies", they were no longer struggling. Did not the Central Powers "struggle" as well?

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Well the Germans did publish what they where going to do. And it was war.

And the unrestricted submarine war campaigns were the main reason America entered on the side of the Allies.

That and the US government insisting that it's citizens should and could go whereever they liked...including a war zone. Add to that the Anti-German sentiment created by the Uboats because the loss of life was viewed as an uncivilized way to fight. (a view which would not survive entry into WWII) Don't see this as England and France "dragging" the US into the war kicking and screaming.

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Without the U.S., the Russians lose. The English lose. The Australians lose.

It's just that simple. The U.S. did not do it all alone, but without them, the Axis powers win. Period.

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Well the Germans did publish what they where going to do. And it was war.

And the unrestricted submarine war campaigns were the main reason America entered on the side of the Allies.

That and the US government insisting that it's citizens should and could go whereever they liked...including a war zone. Add to that the Anti-German sentiment created by the Uboats because the loss of life was viewed as an uncivilized way to fight. (a view which would not survive entry into WWII) Don't see this as England and France "dragging" the US into the war kicking and screaming.

I never once said drag. I used the term goated, which in turn they where.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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nah....not into sipping tea

Warspite1

You should try it...we drink from delicate floral patterned cups with our little pinkies in the air. And while holding a plate full of cucumber sandwiches in the other hand, we discuss the merits of the LBW rule with the vicar.

Also, did you know that according to Mel Gibson, thats what the English were doing at Gallipoli while the Anzacs were dying on the beaches? Drinking tea that is, not talking to the vicar.

with your dentist right?

Warspite1

No - I said the vicar. We don't use dentists in the UK. The Dental Association said we should but we are all too bloody arrogant to agree with them - what do they know? More tea vicar?

I don't think I'm better than you if this is what you mean. Vicar has many meanings.

Warspite1

a) that not what I mean. You said all Brits are the same - we are all arrogant, have bad teeth, drink tea, eat fish and chips from newspaper, hate America, talk cockney rhyming slang and eat cucumber sandwiches (although this is instead of - not with - the fish and chips).
b) I only know of one meaning for Vicar...er Vicar, you know the Church? Genuine question - what other meanings are there?