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1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/7/2010 3:56:29 PM   
karonagames


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Status: offline 		This was the AAR with Trey, that I have constantly used as my reference point for surviving the Blizzard, hopefully it shows how to go about getting the Axis Army into the best shape possible. As noted in another thread, V1.03 does not play like this, but the developers will try to get the game back to this balance.

This was my first PBEM as Axis, but I had done about 6 games against the AI. This was Trey's first Pbem as the Sovs, having played a ton of games against the AI.

The AAR started here:

Well maybe 255turns. If I do any more like this first one it will be all over by Christmas. Remind me never to rush a turn just because I want to watch a cricket match!

Trey has already seen a couple of my AARs and I am hoping he builds his defenses based on those, because I am going to try some new lines of advance, and have a different strategic objective for 1941 compared with my previous tests.

Army Group North - Riga falls.







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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/7/2010 4:00:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		AGC and AGS. Totally cocked up the Lvov and Bialystok Pockets due to my lack of concentration. Andy will be most annoyed that I have not followed his teachings correctly.






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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/7/2010 4:01:41 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/7/2010 4:02:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did play around with the air doctrine settings, and got a couple of hundred more than I usually get:





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/7/2010 5:17:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could you please use the active E key when making your map screenshots. It's easier for the rest of us to follow your progress. Trey doing the Soviets huh. I'm interested in how he manages it all.

Thanks..Andy

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/7/2010 9:48:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bob, have you played a full campaign where you made the usual pockets in the AGN and AGS areas, but bulldozed through the center?

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/8/2010 9:40:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have never bulldozed before as I have only played the AI, and it doesn't try too hard to wriggle out of the Pockets. I think playing Humans means I will bulldoze more, as I can't afford to lose the turn I have lost in turn 2 trying to get the pockets under control. Again the swings and roundabouts will be interesting to see what difference giving the SU all those cadres will make in the long term.

I am tending to "rush" my turns, as I have limited time availabilty ( well that's my excuse), and Trey and I need to get to the Blizzard turns ASAP, so I can prove that the Blizzard is broken!

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/8/2010 8:51:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		T2 North: I am very quickly learning that there is a world of difference between playing the AI and playing H2H. I am definitely bulldozing every unit out of my way in future games. The amount of effort, supplies and , most importantly, momentum that has been wasted through not locking down pockets is annoying. I am at least a turn behind schedule. A turn that Trey will use to dig deeper ditches and train more cadres.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/8/2010 8:52:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		T2 AGC: Minsk is still not locked down, so another turn will be spent cleaning up the rear.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/8/2010 8:56:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		T2 AGS: Although the Lvov pocket is probably locked down, Trey may be tempted to mess with my forward panzer units' supply lines. I still can't maker my mind up whether to split the forward panzers into regiments or not. I will start experimenting, even though Trey has plenty of tank and motorised division down here.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/8/2010 8:57:43 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/8/2010 9:37:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		With 18 MP max for Soviet armor in early 41, it's hard for them to mass a coordinated attack. Not saying they can't hurt a regiment as Andy has shown it can be done, but they shouldn't be able to bring up many motorized units to concentrate on any specific unit other than with hasty attacks.

Several weeks ago we did make it harder to take out isolated units, especially those in higher level forts (not applicable here). I assume this has made the clean up harder than it used to be.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/9/2010 10:24:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		T3 North. Got across the river North of Pskov, which usually unhinges the River line, so good news for once.
I am not looking at Trey's AAR, but my recon can't seem to identify where he is going to make his stands.
Positioning the troops for breakthroughs next turn.




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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/9/2010 10:28:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		T3 South: starting to develop more pocketing opportunites and good progress on the road to Kiev.




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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/9/2010 10:29:45 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/9/2010 10:31:24 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/10/2010 3:06:26 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/10/2010 3:09:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		T4 AGN. My bridgehead North of Pskov looks like it convinced Trey to pull back to his next defence line, which puts me back on schedule for my plans in this sector.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/10/2010 3:14:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		T4 AGC. I cant see much to delay me once I get past VL and Vitebsk - looks like Trey is drawing his line in the sand at Rzhev.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/10/2010 3:16:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		T4: 2PZ Army prepares to cross the Dnepr.




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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/10/2010 3:19:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		T4 AGS. AGS creates some flimsy pockets that Trey will no doubt crack open.






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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/10/2010 3:21:38 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/10/2010 3:26:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		T4 Losses. I have noticed a big variation in AFV losses across the various AARs. This may be a reflection of playstyle, between those that use their panzers to break the stronger stacks vs those who bypass and isolate.




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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/11/2010 8:53:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		T5. AGN. AGN arrives at the Luga line, The defence values that I can see do not look too scary.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/11/2010 8:57:30 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/11/2010 9:00:57 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/11/2010 9:02:59 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/11/2010 9:06:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		T5. AGS pull off A major Pocket, with I have done my level best to lock down, but Trey will no doubt find a way to crack it. Even if he does, I can still advance on Kiev and/or Cherkassy.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/11/2010 9:09:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		T5. my breakthrough at the centre of the Dnester gives me options to the North and South.




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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/11/2010 9:13:54 PM   
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