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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/30/2010 12:38:13 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/30/2010 12:41:02 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/30/2010 12:43:08 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/30/2010 12:45:27 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 9/30/2010 12:51:16 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/1/2010 6:27:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		You should check your units ammo and see if it was particularly low in those attacks. In my RtL game I noticed my armor was getting very low on ammo and as they got low, they had a much harder time. I think they resorted to throwing rocks a few times and that explained some dismal attacks. This is something I never noticed before, I think partially due to supply bugs and partially due to the fact that a few months ago Gary made ammo more important. I found I couldn't just airdrop fuel to the Panzers and expect that they could keep attacking whenever I wanted them to as long as they had MPs. Forts are somewhat tougher, bad terrain is definitely tougher on armored vehicles, but I think ammo is also important now.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/1/2010 11:58:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

You should check your units ammo and see if it was particularly low in those attacks. In my RtL game I noticed my armor was getting very low on ammo and as they got low, they had a much harder time. I think they resorted to throwing rocks a few times and that explained some dismal attacks. This is something I never noticed before, I think partially due to supply bugs and partially due to the fact that a few months ago Gary made ammo more important. I found I couldn't just airdrop fuel to the Panzers and expect that they could keep attacking whenever I wanted them to as long as they had MPs. Forts are somewhat tougher, bad terrain is definitely tougher on armored vehicles, but I think ammo is also important now.


Joel,
Based on above, was thinking of adding following to section on ammunition:

quote:

Combat units with a low ammunition percentage will suffer a significant decline in combat effectiveness during battle, especially when attacking.


Let me know if addition is appropriate and if so, any changes I would need to make.

Thanks,
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/1/2010 4:27:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like you have done pretty well as the attacker. The few turns of snow will give you a chance to take Moscow, which you should be able to. Even in mud though you can conduct some attacks, just not very far, so maybe a few infantry assaults onto the city may take it even sooner.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/1/2010 6:04:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bapek

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Joel,
Based on above, was thinking of adding following to section on ammunition:

quote:

Combat units with a low ammunition percentage will suffer a significant decline in combat effectiveness during battle, especially when attacking.


Let me know if addition is appropriate and if so, any changes I would need to make.

Thanks,
Al





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/2/2010 3:49:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Start of turn 18 - first turn of mud. This illustrates why I love this game so much. The fact that there are consequences to everything you do or don't do. The first 2 turns of chasing Trey around pockets meant I could not get my rails constructed, so 16 turns later Army Group South gets totally isolated.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/2/2010 6:06:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		You do know that if he attacks any of those red bordered units that they can surrender...not likely..but it is possible.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/2/2010 6:09:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fortunately he didn't and most of them were only 1 hex away from the supply grid.

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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 4:18:12 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 4:21:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		End T22. Panzer groups 4 and 3 grind out a few more miles nearer to Moscow.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 4:24:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		T22 Panzer Group 2 very nearly closes a pocket in front of Voronezh and I've left some SS regiments exposed- too tempting a target for Trey no doubt.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 4:27:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		T22 I decide to burn 5k trucks and reduce my supply capacity to use HQ Buildup for the first time on 2 Panzer corps. I hope it was worth it as I got a pretty strong pocket around the Donbas cities.






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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 4:32:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		T22. Rumanian Mountain troops arrive to support the attack on Sevastopol and the guard the coast against any amphibious operations Trey might try - it looks like something might be hiding in Yalta.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 9:05:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		End T23. I haven't come this far to not get my souvenir Vodka and Matryoska Dolls, so I wreck another 10k trucks to use HQ Buildup on 3 Panzer corps, in the hope that I can make 2 deliberate attacks on Moscow next turn. I hate going head on, but I can't out flank the city.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 9:07:51 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 9:11:14 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 9:14:06 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 9:18:18 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/3/2010 9:21:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		T23 OOB. Trey has more tanks than me - not fair. The Aircraft pool bug has deprived me over over 300 aircraft, but I not complaining - it's only a game.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/4/2010 8:06:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		T24 starts with the first promotion in 24 Turns hopefully the Luftwaffe will do a good job for me this turn to celebrate.






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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/4/2010 8:08:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		T 24. I ask the luftwaffe to throw everything they have at Moscow, and this is the result. I hope there is a lot of disruption that I can't see!





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/4/2010 8:10:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		T24 I throw 9 fully supplied Divisions in a frontal assault on the Moscow suburbs. I was expecting to lose a lot more tanks.







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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/4/2010 8:16:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have enough MPs to try for the Hvy Urban hex of Moscow so I kick off another "all out effort" from the luftwaffe - I think they were celebrating the appointment of their new field marshal.





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/4/2010 8:18:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		T24 Moscow: I managed 3 attacks, and these were the best odds I could get - grateful for the low tank losses:





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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/4/2010 8:22:38 PM   
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RE: 1941 Campaign all 255turns! Bob vs Trey - 10/4/2010 8:26:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		T24 one of my major objectives was to prove to myself that Rostov can be captured by December 1st, but it took a cheesy paradrop to do it. My forces are badly exposed and I hope I don't lose them just to prove a point.





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