Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: WoodMan
A relatively minor request, but something I would find handy, the possibility to change the date at which the game starts.

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ORIGINAL: DTFS

im with Igrad's first post
GIVE US MODABLE ANYTHING

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ORIGINAL: Igard

Once again Shark7, you've given me food for thought.

I got thinking about something as simple as a weather control system, like the one on the planet Risa in Star Trek TNG. IIRC correctly this took the form of a satellite network, but the tech device could be located on the planet's spaceport. The sci-fi novel 'Red Mars' had alot of details about terra-forming. I can't remember too much, one thing I do recall was a series of small wind mills that produced heat and warmed the marsian atmosphere, again there could be a control device for this in orbit although I believe the wind mills were self sufficient as they only needed a strong wind which is certainly not a problem on Mars.

Maintenance and level of effect would be set by the modder so I don't see any way to legislate a 60% cap.

I think I'll make a sub-section to 3a. Modable technology, where I'll start adding new tech properties to add to the game. I hope this all makes sense.

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ORIGINAL: Igard

Ok, I've updated the list.

It's not that I disagree with you Shark7. I don't think we should have volcanic worlds with a quality of greater than 90%, but stilll look like the 7th level of hell! I'm just not sure if Elliot will implement a cap and also, there are probably some modders who would like the idea of terraforming fully, regardless of the way the planet looks.

So, maybe it should be up to us to use restraint when modding. If the increase is kept small and there are only 4 or 5 types of improvement tech, then we can very easily calculate ourselves how much the increase should be without worrying about limitations.

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ORIGINAL: Igard

That's something that bugs me every time I start a new game! The save file rarely works properly as tech is never the same.

I've added to the list, section 5c. The ability to set each empires starting ship designs. I made a slight change. We should be able to set this up for each race. Every race should have their own tech tree (seperate wish), but they will also need to have their own starting design since every race is different.

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ORIGINAL: Igard

Thank you for stickying this thread, Erik. And there was me worried it was going un-noticed!

Shark7, I've appended section 5c accordingly. Excellent stuff.

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ORIGINAL: Shark7

An ability to set empire policies. Note that this will probably take a revision of the game code itself to allow for it.

Policies:

1. Empire Alien Relations: What you do with the aliens that you conquer/colonize. I currently suggest the following categories:

a. Assimilation: Basically the DW default as it is now. The Alien race is accepted into your empire and you gain their bonuses. Aliens are free to leave their 'home' planets and intermingle with your people on all colonies. Can colonize new planets.
b. Quarantine: The Aliens are allowed to live on their home planet, but may not leave it and may not intermingle with other races of the empire. You gain their bonuses only for that planet, and only at 25% of normal. Can colonize new planets.
c. Forced labour: The aliens are herded up into camps and forced to work for your people. You gain no bonuses from their race, but you do get a 30% increase in mining efficiency on the planet the aliens are located on. Not allowed to colonize.
d. Annihilation: Aliens are slowly reduced over time until they are no more...self explanatory. I'd avoid eating the soylent green.

On the policies, they should not only do what is described, but also have an effect on reputation. An empire that assimilates would recieve a small reputation boost, quarantine would be a reputation nuetral policy, Forced labour would be a small negative effect, and annihilation would make you evil. Obviously the policy would best be tied into the goverment type. Way of Darkness can annihilate away without too much worry, Republic would want to assimilate.

Also could be tied into the love/hate suggestion. Obviously if you hate the Boskara, you would actually approve of the Securans wiping off the galactic map and vice-versa.

Again, a simple table or number setting would suffice. Policy could be set by the player in game, but for the AI, policy would be set in a table for each race...IE just because you hate the Boskara doesn't mean you wouldn't like to assimilate the Sluken. A table just like the love/hate table suggestion would suffice.

0 = Assimilate
1 = Quarantine
2 = Forced Labor
3 = Annihilate

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ORIGINAL: Shark7

After more time to think about it, this should also work in a reverse order. That is, races that use the annihilate policy would likely resist being assimilated, while races that try to assimilate would assimilate rather easily when conquered.

Examples:

Space Ogres are big, stupid, ferocious beasts who hate everyone...including other Space Ogres. When they aren't fighting alien invaders, they are trying to bash each others heads in. When conquered, they prefer to fight to the death rather than be caged. As such, even if you conquer them, there would be a long period of great unhappiness, with a high probability of open revolt, requiring a large garrison to keep the peace. Over time, they would slowly be less unhappy and eventually even controllable...

On the other hand, the cute Space Elves are a happy people who get along with everyone. While there will still be a short period of unhappiness following conquest, they will quickly assimilate into their new society and the chance of revolt is very unlikely. After a brief time of unhappiness, all happiness levels return to normal and the Space Elves become productive members of the Imperial Populace...

This is all dependant on the conquering race's own policy as well. Even cute Space Elves will rebel if you decide to annihilate them or put them into forced labour.

The point being that 1) it should not always be easy to assimilate a conquered race, and 2) being cruel will require the use of more garrison troops to carry out the policy.

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ORIGINAL: Simulation01

Igard, I like your list however...I couldn't help but notice that there is nothing said in regard to Diplomacy.  I guess I can take from that omission that you don't regard added diplomatic options as a priority wish?

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ORIGINAL: Simulation01

Well, now that I think about it maybe ( if it isn't already possible...not really positive ) you should be able to modify the beginning opinion of certain races both stock and modded.  If you create new resources you should be able to quickly plug in a desire modifier for each race.  Say the Humans can't get enough of Teekan Chicken or something.  Or maybe in the Star Trek mod the Vulcan's have a taste for Human flesh or something....you should be able to mod something like that into the game.  Maybe the other races should be seen not only as an opponent but as a resource with a dedicated value that can be modded for each race.  Maybe Klingons value the 'Honor' of Humans...where maybe honor is given a value depending on the degree to which Human's stand their ground in diplomatic and physical battles.

Diplomacy seems to me to be the result of a variable being given a value and then having an if statement like: if (Humans == 'tasty') then attack and harvest.  LOL that's simplified but how I'm thinking of things.

I'm not really sure....what do you think? A lot of this has been touched on in the main post.