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How long can Japan fight with no oil ? - 12/12/2010 12:06:11 PM

G.Boggon

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I am playing on the allied side in the campaign we hold all the oil except Borneo and northern Sumatra winch we will soon take back. The seas around Indonesia are saturated with our subs. We control all of Burma. It is February 1943.But we don,t have any experience playing Japanese. So how long can Japan fight on with no oil ?

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RE: How long can Japan fight with no oil ? - 12/12/2010 12:25:52 PM

Puhis

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I guess it depends how big oil/fuel stock japanese player have. But without oil fields Japan is doomed.

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RE: How long can Japan fight with no oil ? - 12/12/2010 2:16:54 PM

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Against a real life PBEM partner, the IJ would be hosed in short order. As Puhis says, it depends on stores available. Against the AI, all bets are off, as the AI 'cheats' on so many levels vis a vis production, supply, etc.

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RE: How long can Japan fight with no oil ? - 12/12/2010 3:53:52 PM

G.Boggon

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This is a PBEM We just wonder how long our opponent can play on the war at see is a stalemate just now I think, if you don't count sub's. But one has to wonder whether its a waste of time to be planing massive invasions some months down the line if the Japanese production is going to grind to a halt soon.

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RE: How long can Japan fight with no oil ? - 12/12/2010 9:19:28 PM

Alfred

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Oil and production are two different things.

Firstly, although you profess great confidence that you will shortly recapture the north Sumatran and Borneon oilfields, you have not mentioned whether you hold the Chinese oilfields. That also overlooks the at start oilfields already held by Japan plus the at start oil stockpile. You may well be confronted with a Japan which currently has a bigger oil stockpile than you think.

Secondly, much of the Japanese production is not dependent on having any oil. Light Industry consumes resources and there is no indication that Japan is going to be hampered in producing supplies. How strongly Japan will be able to contest your planned invasions down the line will be much more dependent on the production and availability of supplies.

Thirdly, the impact on production of oil is via the availability of fuel to feed Heavy Industry. Unless your opponent has been quite incompetent, he should have built up a substantial stockpile of Heavy Industry points. Combined with (a) the oil stockpile, (b) continuing oil production and (c) closing down less important industrial production, your opponent will still be able to produce aircraft.

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RE: How long can Japan fight with no oil ? - 12/12/2010 11:17:33 PM

G.Boggon

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Thank you I think we will be playing Allied a while longer by the looks of it as the Japanese certainly control the Chinese oil.

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RE: How long can Japan fight with no oil ? - 12/23/2010 10:08:32 PM

AkomoCombine

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I am also curious about the oilfields in China.If Japan takes those fields does that slow down the horde of chinese troops i see on my border?

In addition does the garrison number on chinese cities i have under my control have to be maintained?

How about the Manchuko area ?Does that number to prevent the Soviets from entering the war go up as the war goes on?

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