Not me. Still have one turn to go for the Road to Minsk scenario !
After that, I am not going to play the GC but rather another scenario, probably Road to Moscow or Road to Smolensk to go along the the latest Glantz book I am reading right now "Barbarossa Derailed"
I don't want to tackle a GC before I am through the manual, cover from cover. I have 200 pages read so far.
I need the sense of accomplishent these days, so I plan to stick with the shorter scenarios. Finished the Turtorial (Russ), Road to Minsk (Ger)(Draw), Road to Leningrad (Ger)(Minor V), and have just started Road to Leningrad as the Russian.
I also need these scenarios to help me learn the rules and interface. Smaller number of units means I get to see what is happening with support units, fatigue, morale, etc.
I'm having a go at Leningrad again, trying out a better approach, last time I got a minor victory. This time I'm rolling out my plan, and the AI is acting in very different ways! It killed my rail repair unit (where that Russian division came from I have no idea!), it cut off my panzers for a turn or two, and in general it's fighting a much better fight than it did the first time!
Are we sure the AI doesn't LEARN from game to game? Hmmmmm...
I'm playing against the Axis AI (turn 4). But it's more to explore the game in its entirety (after playing the smaller scenarios) than because I think I'm ready to manage a frand campaign.
I have also to add that, unlike what I feel while playing WitP-AE, the initial phases of the campaign game in WitE give me a eerie sensation of doom impending. In WitP-AE I think that, if I'm not careful enough I might lose some carriers to the Kido Butai but even that would not count that much in the long run. In WitE I thik that if I do not pull some very smart and bold actions right now, it's game over in a few moves, literally!
The advantage of having an Ocean between you and your opponent is priceless! (as long as you're going to have the strongest navy )
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I'm playing the GC was putting in 5-8 hours a day. Mostly learning I have probably played the first 5 turns as Axis about ten times now. However, today it's back to work so I doubt I will get back into it hardcore until the weekend.
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After reading the manual and a bit of a practice run as axis I have just started a 41-45 CG against my friend via the server. Might as well just dive in at the deep end, I learnt to swim that way.
Ola if your out there I think I can squeeze you in to my second gaming slot....
I was curious because I see sometimes someone mention they have only played the tutorial and Minsk twice, but then others imply that they are doing the GC.
I have done so far...
Tutorial - 1
Road to Minsk - 10 (That's a guess, but I know it is more than 8 based on how I started doing saves after 4 or so games. I started naming them Kurt RTM 1, Kurt RTM 2. And I got to 6 of them.
Road to Smolensk - 2
I'm playing fast, probably too fast. In my early games of RTM, I was doing turns as fast as 30 minutes. As I got better, I was doing them more slowly as I put a lot more thought into them.
I'm stuck on a business trip for two weeks already. Only played tutorial. Will play the smaller scenarios once I get back. Actually the short scenarios sounds good enough even for PBEM.
I'm playing fast, probably too fast. In my early games of RTM, I was doing turns as fast as 30 minutes. As I got better, I was doing them more slowly as I put a lot more thought into them.
WITE is easy to get into since after all, moving units and attacking aren't difficult at all. But that is a trap since you can just be going through your turns in a flash, blitzing here and there in a beer/bretzel game fashion and not bothering about anything else. But you're then missing out on the HUGE value and deep complexity of this game. And anyway, you wouldn't last long in a GC doing this since your command & control, supply and air unit management would decay fast if not attended correctly...
My turns are extremely slow since I'm reading the manual at the same time and assimilating all the features and functions of this incredible wargame. It is a tedious job but I want to master all features and functions so that when I tackle the big one, I'll be in wargaming paradise
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This game is demonic. I played from 5:00 PM yesterday until 3:20 AM this morning. I slept two hours, went to work from 6:30-4:30 and promised myself I would spend a few hours with the wife. I heard my name being whispered from my computer twenty minutes after that marriage "quality" time started. I said I need to check for some urgent emails.
THAT WAS 4 HOURS 45 MINUTES AGO. I CAN"T STOP. MY PANZERS ARE SLAMMING INTO AND THROUGH EVERY RUSSIAN DEFENSE. MY INFANTRY ARE FOLLOWING UP KICKING RED BUTT.
And the intricacies of the game continue to be learned every few minutes.
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This game is demonic. I played from 5:00 PM yesterday until 3:20 AM this morning. I slept two hours, went to work from 6:30-4:30 and promised myself I would spend a few hours with the wife. I heard my name being whispered from my computer twenty minutes after that marriage "quality" time started. I said I need to check for some urgent emails.
THAT WAS 4 HOURS 45 MINUTES AGO. I CAN"T STOP. MY PANZERS ARE SLAMMING INTO AND THROUGH EVERY RUSSIAN DEFENSE. MY INFANTRY ARE FOLLOWING UP KICKING RED BUTT.
And the intricacies of the game continue to be learned every few minutes.
Great,you are what that fellow who started the undecided thread was worried about turning into.
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This game is demonic. I played from 5:00 PM yesterday until 3:20 AM this morning. I slept two hours, went to work from 6:30-4:30 and promised myself I would spend a few hours with the wife. I heard my name being whispered from my computer twenty minutes after that marriage "quality" time started. I said I need to check for some urgent emails.
THAT WAS 4 HOURS 45 MINUTES AGO. I CAN"T STOP. MY PANZERS ARE SLAMMING INTO AND THROUGH EVERY RUSSIAN DEFENSE. MY INFANTRY ARE FOLLOWING UP KICKING RED BUTT.
And the intricacies of the game continue to be learned every few minutes.
Great,you are what that fellow who started the undecided thread was worried about turning into.
Worry he should. I actually get the shakes when I take a bathroom break. And that's after holding it in until I am in pain with tears leaking from my eyes. Catheter on the way.
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After trying the Road to Minsk scenario a couple of times, I couldn't restrain myself anymore, and kicked off a 1941-1945 grand campaign as the Germans against the AI.
Reading up on the details I have missed as I go along. Seem to be doing OK so far - AGC bagged and eliminated a pocket west of Minsk and have gained bridgeheads across the Dnepr. AGS struck east and then south, and have just trapped a huge pile of Soviet units as the Hungarians and Rumanians activated...
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Are we sure the AI doesn't LEARN from game to game? Hmmmmm...
I've often wondered about that too. I've played games where I blew the Axis AI to pieces as the Soviets and the other way around, but when I would switch sides, the AI seemed to have learned some lessons from how I played, sometimes even mimicking moves (which was both scary and a good thing as it became more competent).
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