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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

It really depends on taste. What is good for you may not be good for me. For example I have been playing Lord of the Rings for over 3 1/2 years and LOVE it! Some folks don't like it because it does not emphasize magic and it not a flashy game. It's also PvE based, very little PvP.  If you're a die hard pvper you will not enjoy it. 

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ORIGINAL: Sheytan

Is there anything good you folks are playing currently?

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ORIGINAL: nim8or

I'm curious what you like about LotR that keeps you in the game after that length of time. Care to elaborate a bit?

After 16 years, Civ II still has me in it's clutches LOL!!!
Now CIV IV has me in it's evil clutches!

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ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Interesting discussion guys. Just based on watching it be played a bit, I too had sort of got that "Grand Central Station" sense about WoW.

What is Warhammer like? Does it do justice to the RPG, or is it based on the miniatures/battles version?

After 16 years, Civ II still has me in it's clutches LOL!!!
Now CIV IV has me in it's evil clutches!

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ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

WOW is the only one I have found that is worth reinstalling and playing. The game has been balanced to a razer's edge and you can solo, raid, have small parties or PVP. The game has enough variety and areas that you can do any of those and have fun doing it. The game also has enough of a population to support the game and enough new content to keep it interesting. And all the small touches like weekend fishing tournaments and holidays make it a cut above.

The only other MMO I found worthy was Eve Online but it was damn near impossible to a new player to have any chance. Also 90% of the players are European and thus 5-7 hours ahead and I found it hard to find groups that spoke English. It is not very newbie friendly either.
Every question or concern I had about WOW was answered by a game master. In Eve I found it hard to even find game masters.
Eve is a game I would probably love if I had the time and I curse myself that I didn't find it about four years ago. The longer the play definitely the more advantage you have.

The only other MMO I am interested in is The Old Republic. But MMOs are things that you can never know about ahead of time. And they have a very low success rate. For every successful one (WOW, EVE, LOTR) there are five disasters. FF 14, Star Wars Galaxies (shudder), AION, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Guild Wars etc

And then there are those who are average to above average but because they are MMOs they are not worth the time investment or the money. Everquest 2 for instance. MMOs are such that unless you are retired or a super hardcore you can't play 2-3 at a time. WOW keeps me busy enough and requires a 8-12 hour investment a week if you are in a guild.

Finally, Alienware is a nice system but pretty unnecessary for a MMO. Most of them are not exactly pushing the cutting edge of hardware. They have to be designed for the mid-range to low end systems to maximize potential subscribers. You could probably get a system at half the price that would run it just as well.

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ORIGINAL: Hertston

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ORIGINAL: Sheytan

Is there anything good you folks are playing currently?

At the moment, none, although I'm toying with the idea of getting 'Fallen Earth' in the Steam sale as that seems to have features that could distinguish it from the crowd. The only MMO I've ever played for more than a month or two before getting bored is EVE, which is a great game but just demands more time than I have.

Pity 'Jumpgate Evolution' seems to be vapourware; that looked rather fun.

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ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Interesting discussion guys. Just based on watching it be played a bit, I too had sort of got that "Grand Central Station" sense about WoW.

What is Warhammer like? Does it do justice to the RPG, or is it based on the miniatures/battles version?

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I used to play DAOC a lot but gave it up a few years ago hated the TOA time sink

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ORIGINAL: Sheytan

Played WOW for years, wouldnt consider going back. Tried Eve, as you said its hard to get going. Didnt have the heart for it.

Regarding the Alienware rig ive wanted one for years, and now have a chance to buy it. Regarding Upcoming MMO's I think Guildwars2 looks really REALLY nice. I am conflicted about anything else as they dont seem to ring bells for me, a Fallout online would be nice! Oh the Warhammer 40k MMO is something id consider as well, but its some time down the road.

Anything else upcoming you all are watching? And why?

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ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

WOW is the only one I have found that is worth reinstalling and playing. The game has been balanced to a razer's edge and you can solo, raid, have small parties or PVP. The game has enough variety and areas that you can do any of those and have fun doing it. The game also has enough of a population to support the game and enough new content to keep it interesting. And all the small touches like weekend fishing tournaments and holidays make it a cut above.

The only other MMO I found worthy was Eve Online but it was damn near impossible to a new player to have any chance. Also 90% of the players are European and thus 5-7 hours ahead and I found it hard to find groups that spoke English. It is not very newbie friendly either.
Every question or concern I had about WOW was answered by a game master. In Eve I found it hard to even find game masters.
Eve is a game I would probably love if I had the time and I curse myself that I didn't find it about four years ago. The longer the play definitely the more advantage you have.

The only other MMO I am interested in is The Old Republic. But MMOs are things that you can never know about ahead of time. And they have a very low success rate. For every successful one (WOW, EVE, LOTR) there are five disasters. FF 14, Star Wars Galaxies (shudder), AION, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Guild Wars etc

And then there are those who are average to above average but because they are MMOs they are not worth the time investment or the money. Everquest 2 for instance. MMOs are such that unless you are retired or a super hardcore you can't play 2-3 at a time. WOW keeps me busy enough and requires a 8-12 hour investment a week if you are in a guild.

Finally, Alienware is a nice system but pretty unnecessary for a MMO. Most of them are not exactly pushing the cutting edge of hardware. They have to be designed for the mid-range to low end systems to maximize potential subscribers. You could probably get a system at half the price that would run it just as well.

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ORIGINAL: mullk

I played EQ2 from launch but haven't touched it a while.  Didn't like WOW as it was to cartoonish for me (reminded me of Dr. Suess).  I've played DDO and LOTRO and prefer LOTRO.  Now that Lotro is free to play I don't have to keep a sub and go back when I want.  I've been dabbling in Star Trek Online Demo to see if I like it.  I really enjoyed Star Wars Galaxies before the NGE.  After the NGE I never returned to SWG.  I have heard both good and bad concerning the new star wars MMO so i'll wait and see how it pans out. 

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ORIGINAL: diablo1

SWG was one of the best MMO's till they killed it with the NGE. They destroyed hours upon hours of game time played by doing so because players lost everything that they had accomplished because of the NGE. See you once could be a conglomeration of character classes, you could be a rifleman, artisian, creature handling, medic, entertainer all in one character. Then the NGE dumped all that and you had to pick ONE character class to play and you lost all the rest. That pissed a bunch of players off and we left.

After 16 years, Civ II still has me in it's clutches LOL!!!
Now CIV IV has me in it's evil clutches!

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ORIGINAL: diablo1

SWG was one of the best MMO's till they killed it with the NGE. They destroyed hours upon hours of game time played by doing so because players lost everything that they had accomplished because of the NGE. See you once could be a conglomeration of character classes, you could be a rifleman, artisian, creature handling, medic, entertainer all in one character. Then the NGE dumped all that and you had to pick ONE character class to play and you lost all the rest. That pissed a bunch of players off and we left.

Now it's Guild Wars for me. There is no monthly fee, 3 main chapters and 1 major expansion and a pay to play content story that costs $10. Everything is instance so there's no kill stealing in instances or much moaning and groaning (except in cities and outposts and temples where most lazy gamers hang out just to argue or grief others like in most MMO's).

The only problems I see Guild Wars has is they moved away from the carrot in front of the horse method and loot or treasure is pretty dull and boring. Anyone and everyone can have the best stat armor, weapons and offhands as max stats for a weapon is +15% damage, but, they do have different looking skins for vain type players. Of course like all MMO's some weapons are harder to aquire, but, in the end they all have the same max stat no matter what they look like. This makes the game pretty boring. Same goes for armor and offhands. They have their easy to aquire max stats models and then some skins that are harder to aquire.

I played it pretty heavily till I completed all the chapters and expansion, but, now it's just not as much fun anymore because they have really romper roomed the game to the point any 8 year old can play it with ease. They pretty much killed the game when they introduced Heroes (3 more characters you control in the game and can build them how you like) and most players stopped grouping with each other to complete missions and quests or just exploring in general. It's so easy now I can just use my 3 AI heroes and plow through 99% of the content with them and the way I have them built. (Lots of necros and necro pets work real well in this game along with one character that can blind or mass blind). The new thing coming next year is the ability to use 7 heroes (to make a full party of heroes and yourself) and this is going to blow the game into oblivion of ease. I can already stomp most of the game with just 3, give me 7 and I'll rule the world. 7 necros with Discord? hahaha that will be so overpowered the highest god in the game will cringe.

But, at any rate the main draw for me to Guild Wars was the "no monthly fee" aspect of it. You don't feel pressured to play it all the time everyday because it's not costing you anything after the initial purchase like all the rest.

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Regarding guildwars you have GW2 coming out soon!

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ORIGINAL: Hertston

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ORIGINAL: Sheytan

Is there anything good you folks are playing currently?

At the moment, none, although I'm toying with the idea of getting 'Fallen Earth' in the Steam sale as that seems to have features that could distinguish it from the crowd. The only MMO I've ever played for more than a month or two before getting bored is EVE, which is a great game but just demands more time than I have.

Pity 'Jumpgate Evolution' seems to be vapourware; that looked rather fun.