Sabre21
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I would never go static as the Germans at this point in the game. You lose your maneuverability and those units will just get surrounded and killed. Forts on the other hand I would and do use. The Germans don't have the luxury of a lot of extra units so the forts provide that although at a cost of 5 ap per.
One of the older testers..Rick, used forts very heavily and had pretty much 3 solid rows of them in the north and center. He started building his line in September. It took all i had to break the center and northern defenses. By February 42 I had breached the lines in the north and was starting to make decent headway and another turn or two the center would have been punched, but not decisively. He didn't have many forts down south where most of his armor was and that theatre was in chaos and near total rout. I nearly bagged an entire panzer army had he not slipped the noose. I was 50 miles from Rumania when we quit in Feb 42.
When I play Germans, I begin the winter defense as of turn 1 by destroying as many Soviet units as I can and keep that up until mud hits. I push hard taking as many manpower centers and do my best to keep my opponent off balance. I firmly believe a good defense is a strong offense. While I am relentless all the way until the weather changes, I do use my axis allies to begin digging in at key locations and rotate some of my divisions in such a manner as to create a defensive line while getting replenished. Forts begin popping in early so as not to be a massive drain on manpower all at once. I decide where my main line of resistance will be and then plan on going one hundred miles beyond that as a buffer. That's what you can expect a good Soviet player to take back.
Interesting, thanks! It's now mid-July 1941 in my game, so you'd suggest I start putting up some fortifications already, so they can gradually fill up? Do they gain a significant advantage if I put them in cities, or is a line of them close together preferable to an individual, but beefed up Festung?
Also, regarding static units - what would be their advantage later in game? Once the tide turns and I'm constantly defending?
As Pieter indicates the downside to a lot of forts is that it uses up a lot of precious manpower. The upside though is it is another unit that can be digging in while your combat formations maintain the frontline. If you manage them properly and don't get too crazy with them as I've seen some folks do, manpower usage won't be a problem. You can also set them at 50% TOE, although doing so will probably slow their entrenching ability down.
Thru June, July, and August my ap's as the German are going towards balancing out and reorganization. I have my own personal preferences on how I like my force structure to be at and it takes 9 or 10 turns to get them that way. By September I build a couple forts here and there, primarily in cities and where I think I will have my main defensive line at. Where I can use minor allies for digging in i do but the center is void of them due to axis ally limitations so that's typically where my forts end up.
If you prefer not to use forts, which some people don't like, you can take out a few divisions and break them into regiments and get those digging in. I tend to use both methods.
As for static units in later war, I really don't see myself useing them much. I haven't really got into the latter era of testing and most of the guys that have took on the Soviets.
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