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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/8/2011 6:57:04 PM

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I had some Jehovah's Witnesses at my door. Does that count?

One of my neighbors has this sign at the end of his driveway:

It stems from an incident where he was in his yard, naked and playing his harmonica when some Jehovah's Witnesses pulled up...

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/8/2011 7:15:02 PM

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I had some Jehovah's Witnesses at my door. Does that count?

One of my neighbors has this sign at the end of his driveway:

It stems from an incident where he was in his yard, naked and playing his harmonica when some Jehovah's Witnesses pulled up...

And the architecture...is it by any chance neuveau tar paper shack?

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/8/2011 10:40:11 PM

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Oh...we used to DREAM of having replacement aircraft.

Bring 5 squadrons.

Yep, we have a fair few squadrons sat around doing the square root of shag-all. Time to get them busy me thinks.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/8/2011 10:57:44 PM

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And the architecture...is it by any chance neuveau tar paper shack?

It looks like they re-used a realtor's sign. The post is for a chain that they can put across the driveway. Personally I would have Rustoleum'ed the post and spray painted the sign before putting on the letters, but then I have no artistic side.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/9/2011 5:04:19 PM

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And the architecture...is it by any chance neuveau tar paper shack?

It looks like they re-used a realtor's sign. The post is for a chain that they can put across the driveway. Personally I would have Rustoleum'ed the post and spray painted the sign before putting on the letters, but then I have no artistic side.

To be fair, some of the finest estates in the US have a rusty chain across the gravel driveway to keep out Jehova's Witnesses and Federal Revenue Agents.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/9/2011 5:46:23 PM

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**************What Would a Weasel Need?**************

1. Ground Troops
A. Wyndham
....Two well-prepped divisions and a Corps HQ for Wyndham (Aus I Corps)
....Combat Engr Bn.
....1-2 Bn Ary
....1-2 Bn Armor for assault and to open track to Daly, pursuit, etc. (these might be able to drive up from Daly)
....MINIMUM 150 (preferably 200) Aviation support points in 2nd wave of landing
....Naval Support unit to ease unloading of engineers once base is secured
....At least one EAB or construction Bn to repair the airfield if it is damaged in the attack.
....1-2 CD units than can get ashore quickly in 2nd wave.
....1-2 AA units.
....Air HQ

B. Port Headland
....Perhaps one division. A brigade might do based on intel.
....AA unit
....1 CD unit (optional)
....Combat engineer (desireable but may not be necessary based on intel)
....60 Aviation support.

2. Air Units

A. Wyndham
....5 squadrons Hurricanes (fly in from Daly if we own it otherwise they would have to brought in on carriers and flown off).
....2 Sqdrn P-39 for sweep attack over Darwin (in Oz)
....1 Sqdrn Beaufighters for naval attack escorts (in Oz)
....3 Sqdrn Medium bombers (B-26/B-25) for airfield attacks on Darwin. (in Oz)
....1 Sqdrn of Beauforts
....Cats

B. Port Headland
....Cats (or Hudsons)
....2 Sqdrn B-17 to supress Broome airfield
....1 Sqdrn Kittyhawk

3. Naval Units
....4 USN CV's with 3000+ pt AAA support per TF
....3 RN CV's with 2000+ AAA support per TF
....USS Long Island and HMS Hermes for ASW support and possible ferry duty..
....Fast BB TF to cover Wyndham landing (Repulse and South Dakota..these could be detached from the AAA suites of the carrier TF's if needed)
....Cruiser-based security force for Port Headland
....Two BB bomardment groups with 21Kt BB's (2-3 USN, 2 RN). These could be employed to destroy Broome airfield and then safely get back to Perth.
....An AE for Wyndham, Carnaton and Port Headland.
....Flotilla PT boats for Wyndham with AVG
....2 18 Kt fleet oiler TF's and 1-2 13 Kt Oiler groups
....Enough 16+ Kt AP's and AK's to embark all of I Aus Corps at 1/3 load AND carry the 2nd wave for Wyndham (1 CA or CL in each amphibious TF).
....Slower AP's for Port Headland force could be used.
....Sub screen (>10 boats)
....14 kt AK's with > 60,000 supply for Wyndham
....14 kt TK's with 5,000 fule for Wyndham
....>20,000 supply for Port Headland

Nice things to have....Level 2 airfield at Carnaton and Tennant. Paratroops and C-47's for possible exploitation from Wyndham.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/9/2011 9:34:43 PM

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Nice OOB, Cap'n.

Don't forget some NCB engineers and air ground personnel for that dot hex South of Port Headland. With y'all's ability to build airfields quickly, having another supportive AF size 6 nearby can only be a good thing.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/9/2011 9:53:21 PM

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**************What Would a Weasel Need?**************

Okay, if we adopt a quiet Burma we can do this. 2nd UK Div is arriving at Aden, they can be tasked to Weasel. We also have 254th and 255th Armoured Brigades available.

I Aus Corps has arty and engineering assets included, they are on the transports en route to Perth.

I can supply the Hurris and Beaus.

My TRs are busy supplying China now the hump is open again.

That's a start.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/9/2011 10:41:28 PM

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As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/9/2011 11:48:43 PM

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As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

Indeed, threatening the homeland with heavies is our goal (and or cutting off oil fromt he DEI). The thing is, I've never been in a WITP game where the Japanese navy and air force wasn't utterly destroyed BEFORE a B-29 rolled off the assembly line. In fact, I have never been able to use a P-51 or a Corsair either. Killing massive numbers of over-extended Jap troops sends everyone looking for their sepuku instruction manuals.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/9/2011 11:50:26 PM

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I have to admit. This Scenario 2 in AE is seriously more challenging for the Allies.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 2:25:59 AM

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I have to admit. This Scenario 2 in AE is seriously more challenging for the Allies.

Um...yes?

This comes as a surprise-how giving the Japs several divisions and a bunch of other goodies would make the game more challenging?

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 2:28:29 AM

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As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

Several other players have testified that it is harder to strat bomb JJ's cities with B-29s in this game versus IRL. There seems to be some dissatisfaction re: B-29's ability to keep up the fight and dish out the hurt in the face of high maintenance requirements, high OPS losses and low replacement numbers.

Tinian may not be the lynchpin you expect....

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 3:04:54 AM

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As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

Several other players have testified that it is harder to strat bomb JJ's cities with B-29s in this game versus IRL. There seems to be some dissatisfaction re: B-29's ability to keep up the fight and dish out the hurt in the face of high maintenance requirements, high OPS losses and low replacement numbers.

Tinian may not be the lynchpin you expect....

And yet there's an effort underway in another thread to tone down Allied 4EB's...

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 4:41:04 AM

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As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

Several other players have testified that it is harder to strat bomb JJ's cities with B-29s in this game versus IRL. There seems to be some dissatisfaction re: B-29's ability to keep up the fight and dish out the hurt in the face of high maintenance requirements, high OPS losses and low replacement numbers.

Tinian may not be the lynchpin you expect....

And yet there's an effort underway in another thread to tone down Allied 4EB's...

Different focus, I'm afraid-my Argletonian colleague...

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 4:58:20 AM

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As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

Several other players have testified that it is harder to strat bomb JJ's cities with B-29s in this game versus IRL. There seems to be some dissatisfaction re: B-29's ability to keep up the fight and dish out the hurt in the face of high maintenance requirements, high OPS losses and low replacement numbers.

Tinian may not be the lynchpin you expect....

And yet there's an effort underway in another thread to tone down Allied 4EB's...

Different focus, I'm afraid-my Argletonian colleague...

You mean increasing their Service Rating above the current 4 would not impact those things?

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 5:17:59 AM

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We don't get no steenking B-29's until April, 1944.

Either I will be running a banana plantation here is Southern California or be buried under several 100 ft. of glacial ice by the time we get there.

I concur with Admiral Lord Sprior's plan to bring the enemy to battle and defeat him. It is quite manly...in an impetuous, laughing at danger sort of manner. The Emperor's troops in Australia seem an obvious target. They have gone one continent too far. They will perish in flame or taste Sheffield steel (or maybe Cleveland steel).

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 5:19:41 AM

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By ra way, the idea of using P-39's to sweep over Darwin from Wyndham wont work...too far. Maybe we can scrounge up some P-38's from an authroized reseller.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 5:21:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: sprior

As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

Several other players have testified that it is harder to strat bomb JJ's cities with B-29s in this game versus IRL. There seems to be some dissatisfaction re: B-29's ability to keep up the fight and dish out the hurt in the face of high maintenance requirements, high OPS losses and low replacement numbers.

Tinian may not be the lynchpin you expect....

And yet there's an effort underway in another thread to tone down Allied 4EB's...

Different focus, I'm afraid-my Argletonian colleague...

You mean increasing their Service Rating above the current 4 would not impact those things?

B-29s are service rating 5

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 12:48:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: sprior

As far as I'm concerned this whole game pivots on capturing the Marianas so we can put the Japanese homeland in B29 range. To do that we have to take the Marshalls.

After the Marianas we can do the Palau and Peleliu from Guam and use them to jump into the PI. Everything we're doing now should be aimed at chewing up JJs forces to make the above easier.

Several other players have testified that it is harder to strat bomb JJ's cities with B-29s in this game versus IRL. There seems to be some dissatisfaction re: B-29's ability to keep up the fight and dish out the hurt in the face of high maintenance requirements, high OPS losses and low replacement numbers.

Tinian may not be the lynchpin you expect....

And yet there's an effort underway in another thread to tone down Allied 4EB's...

Different focus, I'm afraid-my Argletonian colleague...

You mean increasing their Service Rating above the current 4 would not impact those things?

No. What I meant was that the argument in the other thread involves multiple seemingly parallel discussions about all the things wrong with heavy bombers. The OP originally opined that perhaps accuracy of defensive firepower from Allied 4EBs may be a bit high. He's probably right. He was quickly deluged with the usual litany of how this is the 'only good weapons platform for the Allies' and blah de blah.

Anyways, it's an argument that we need not spam this thread with. After all, why taint this thread with such non-sequitors, half-baked opinions, hearsay, pointless banter and questionable internet hygeine?...

Wait one....this is Cap_N_Gown's AAR, right? [looks at AAR header]. Oh! Hahahahah.....never mind. Carry on!

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 12:50:11 PM

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By ra way, the idea of using P-39's to sweep over Darwin from Wyndham wont work...too far. Maybe we can scrounge up some P-38's from an authroized reseller.

Even with drop tanks?

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 1:17:26 PM

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One of my neighbors has this sign at the end of his driveway:

Is that snow on the ground? It looks like the middle of a desert! What's the elevation (a big hill around my way is ......oh........400m above sea level

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 4:03:58 PM

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********Offices of D,C&H, Spring St., Los Angeles, July 4, 1942******

I. Dunn Cheatham, Esq.: <on the phone>...look, Carmine, it doesn't matter if it is your gig or not, 33rd Aviation Regt is going to San Diego by train and then on to Australia, they are NOT, repeat NOT to embark for Ceylon.

....damnit Carmine, it's for the good of the enterprise, don't argue with me.

....Carmine, this comes from the top.

....No, not the Pope, Mr. M, il capo di capos.

....Look, we sold some P-38's at high margin to the ETO. Your guys can have part of that but we need you to come through on this.

....Good. I will relay to Mr. M your enthusiasm, and good day to you, Carmine. <hangs up, then begins grousing to his sexretary>

Goddamn Dego bastards don't seem to understand Mr. Roosevelt's concept of shared sacrifice.

Angelica: <leans forward to deliver some papers on her desk, her amble brown-skinned bosom spilling out of her v-neck sweater> Yes, Mr. Cheatham.

I. Dunn Cheatham, Esq.: Oh, Angelica, see if they can take me for lunch at the Brown Derby....Nice sweater, by the way....

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 5:09:19 PM

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Is that snow on the ground? It looks like the middle of a desert! What's the elevation (a big hill around my way is ......oh........400m above sea level )

About a mile ASL.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 5:10:57 PM

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After all, why taint this thread with such non-sequitors, half-baked opinions, hearsay, pointless banter and questionable internet hygeine?...

Oh golly, for a minute there I thought you were serious!

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 6:53:04 PM

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After all, why taint this thread with such non-sequitors, half-baked opinions, hearsay, pointless banter and questionable internet hygeine?...

Oh golly, for a minute there I thought you were serious!

Well I was. For a minute. Only. It's hard for me to stay on task longer than one paragraph.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 7:55:53 PM

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And the architecture...is it by any chance neuveau tar paper shack?

It looks like they re-used a realtor's sign. The post is for a chain that they can put across the driveway. Personally I would have Rustoleum'ed the post and spray painted the sign before putting on the letters, but then I have no artistic side.

To be fair, some of the finest estates in the US have a rusty chain across the gravel driveway to keep out Jehova's Witnesses and Federal Revenue Agents.

Here's a larger view of the neighborhood:

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 7:57:04 PM

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Sorry about the size of that - I would have reduced the image if I had realized.

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RE: Dancing with the Stars - 1/10/2011 8:32:54 PM

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I am somewhat surprised to hear the naked man has a wife.

Also of note, the entrances to the Zombie Apocolypse shelters are quite well hidden.

Arid...Junipers..1 mile ASL.....I am thinking Northern Ariz or Southwestern Colorado. Looks a bit like SW Utah too.

On balance, I am guessing the Jehova's Witnesses didn't have a very fruitful day.

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Leading Economic Indicators - 1/10/2011 8:39:48 PM

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Jan 10, 2011

Indicators appear mixed. The Mayan housekeeper is asking for more shifts and complaining about her rent being too expensive. This remains Bearish.

On the other hand, an entrepenuer near me just opened a CUPCAKE STORE. That's it, just cupcakes.

This is either an extremely Bullish indicator of improving retail spending or someone stopped taking their meds and slipped over into the manic phase of bipolar disorder.

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