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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/16/2011 9:19:09 PM   
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... In fact, I am having trouble thinking of any good ACW movies.


The Red Badge of Courage w/real life hero Audie Murphy and an all star cast that remained faithful to the original story.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 2:27:26 AM   
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In fact, I am having trouble thinking of any good ACW movies.



"The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" is the best I can think of.


Which is not even an ACW movie. It is a spaghetti western that just happens to be set in the ACW.

I guess Gone With the Wind is an ACW movie and it is pretty good.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 2:30:55 AM   
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Gods and Generals



I think this is probably my pick. I am a huge Civil War fan but this moving just flat our bored me to death. Add to the fact that it is over three hours long...
It is not that the movie is bad. I would not call it terrible. It is just flat and lifeless. And the southern accents are also pretty badly done.

There was supossed to be a sequel about the last days of the war, but Gods and Generals lost over 40 million dollars so it was never made.

There was also another Civil War movie called Cold Mountain that was also incredibly yawn inducing.
In fact, I am having trouble thinking of any good ACW movies.



Having grown up on the battlefields of Virginia (dad was the historian at Richmond Battlefield so we lived in the Watt House), I have always managed to overlook the long, boring interludes between a couple of excellent battle depictions (they did a beautiful job of Fredericksburg).

And they did get the Virginia accents down pretty good. I get reminded of this on a regular basis because my grade school principle lives nearby and he has an old school Tidewater Virginia accent - much like some of those in the movie.


I grew up in the mid south and went to college and law school in Virginia for six years. The accents were terrible and one can tell they were done by those who ordinarily speak something else.
Most southern accents in movies are pretty badly done. Forrest Gump has among the worst despite being a fantastic movie in every other respect.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 2:32:35 AM   
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SPIKE trick, which was used by the English against the French at Agincourt. It seems indeed to have been decisive,


No, it was the longbow that did the worst damage.



I would say the mud did even move.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 3:36:03 AM   
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William Wallace LIVED.


Um, no he didn't. He was captured and executed by the English just like in the movie (although undoubtedly the actual circumstances of his capture differ from how it was depicted in the film).


In any case, though, I agree with your overall assessment. I love Braveheart as a film, but I despise it as an "accurate" historical adaptation.




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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 4:03:38 AM   
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 4:08:03 AM   
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Gods and Generals



I think this is probably my pick. I am a huge Civil War fan but this moving just flat our bored me to death. Add to the fact that it is over three hours long...
It is not that the movie is bad. I would not call it terrible. It is just flat and lifeless. And the southern accents are also pretty badly done.

There was supossed to be a sequel about the last days of the war, but Gods and Generals lost over 40 million dollars so it was never made.

There was also another Civil War movie called Cold Mountain that was also incredibly yawn inducing.
In fact, I am having trouble thinking of any good ACW movies.



Having grown up on the battlefields of Virginia (dad was the historian at Richmond Battlefield so we lived in the Watt House), I have always managed to overlook the long, boring interludes between a couple of excellent battle depictions (they did a beautiful job of Fredericksburg).

And they did get the Virginia accents down pretty good. I get reminded of this on a regular basis because my grade school principal lives nearby and he has an old school Tidewater Virginia accent - much like some of those in the movie.


I grew up in the mid south and went to college and law school in Virginia for six years. The accents were terrible and one can tell they were done by those who ordinarily speak something else.
Most southern accents in movies are pretty badly done. Forrest Gump has among the worst despite being a fantastic movie in every other respect.


My take is that one of the actors (I forget who it was) had a voice and accent that was a dead ringer for John Clarke, my principal from Richmond (who I see on a fairly regular basis out here). You say that they were terrible, and yet one sounds just like an older native Virginian from the Tidewater region... I guess that we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.



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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 5:32:20 AM   
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Do many of you find movies boring because of the content, or is it because your attention spans can't last beyond one minute? Sure, as I get older, I have the same problem, but I frankly do NOT think HBO's "The Pacific" miniseries was boring. Heck, I thought parts of "Band of Brothers" WAS boring, but that's my personal opinion.



Some of them are just plain boring. A lot of it depends on what makes it boring for you. Battle of the Bulge bores me to tears because it's so inaccurate. It's a chore for me to sit through.

The Thin Red Line bores me because of all the dialogue which has nothing to do with the movie. If it would have been shorter it would have been great.

I agree with Band of Brothers, as much as I love the series, parts of it bored me.

I can't believe someone labeled Kally's Hero's boring. I laugh everytime I think of Carrol O'Connor talking about the ionosphere!

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 12:41:35 PM   
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But The Red Baron was boring. Watched it very recently. It manages to be inaccurate,unbelievable, unlikely,  and revisionist. Now Gladiator is all those things but is still a good movie, same way that Braveheart is.

The Red Baron isn't. Manfred the pacifist? What were they thinking? Some complained about the meetings between Brown and the Baron on the ground. They have a point. Not because they are historical inventions, but because they are so monumentally dull.
A truly BORING film.



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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 2:34:15 PM   
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 3:04:45 PM   
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 5:47:55 PM   
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Thin Red Line, followed by the one that must not be named.

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The one that must not be named? What - you mean Pearl Harbor?

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 5:49:12 PM   
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you mean Pearl Harbor?


With John Wayne and Maude?!

When you get down to it though "Midway" wasn't that great either.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 5:56:33 PM   
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you mean Pearl Harbor?


When you get down to it though "Midway" wasn't that great either.

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No, but it was better than Pearl Harbor...in fact every film ever made has been better than that Pearl Harbor tripe - how could they have released such bilge?

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 6:16:47 PM   
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 8:24:30 PM   
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you mean Pearl Harbor?


When you get down to it though "Midway" wasn't that great either.

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No, but it was better than Pearl Harbor...in fact every film ever made has been better than that Pearl Harbor tripe - how could they have released such bilge?


Pearl Harbor was a chick flick with an ahistorical background. In that it succeeded quite well...

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 9:20:27 PM   
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you mean Pearl Harbor?


When you get down to it though "Midway" wasn't that great either.

Warspite1

No, but it was better than Pearl Harbor...in fact every film ever made has been better than that Pearl Harbor tripe - how could they have released such bilge?


Pearl Harbor was a chick flick with an ahistorical background. In that it succeeded quite well...

Warspite1

You may be right, but personally, I do not buy that at all. If the film makers wanted to make a "chick flick" set against the background of an (in)famous day in history then they would surely have called it something else. Calling a film Pearl Harbor says in big red letters about 100 foot tall - "Women stay away as this is war film and you will be bored witless".

I believe - and it is this that makes the end product quite correctly such a target for scorn - that the intention was to make a proper war movie - i.e. something that would appeal to men, but would have a love interest to ensure that there was a degree of universal appeal. That of course is a perfectly acceptable and well worn path - but it does not necessarily follow that in going down that path, the producers/directors/script writers of this film had to leave their brains at the door .

Sorry, but that film was just dumb in just about every way possible. "I think World War II just started" - AAARRGGHHH

Worst. War. Film. Ever .



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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 9:33:46 PM   
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 9:58:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pearl Harbor is not a bad movie. It did what it needed to do to appeal to a broad and disconnected audience. It accomplished this task and thus was an overall failure to most people. You cannot have a romance intertwined with an action movie on any successful level.

However let’s face it, the movie covered some things that a lot of students in today’s government schools have no idea ever took place:
  • The attack on Pearl Harbor itself
  • The Doolittle Raid
  • Volunteer airmen flying for the British before war was officially declared
  • The screening process airmen, sailors & soldiers had to endure just to “strap in”.
Sure, Ben Affleck is no John Wayne, but the movie was educational if anything else.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 10:02:18 PM   
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Cross of Iron
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 10:31:10 PM   
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 10:48:50 PM   
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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 10:59:12 PM   
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The Red Badge of Courage w/real life hero Audie Murphy and an all star cast that remained faithful to the original story.


+1. It's virtually word for word, the book being fairly short and easy to adapt to a screenplay. Great movie, and Murphy's casting is inspired. Not the best actor in the world normally, but RBoC is all about emotions and fears that he both experienced and was able to conquer in real-life.

'Glory' is the other must-watch Civil War movie for me.




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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/17/2011 11:58:39 PM   
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God's and General's actually put me into a coma, that was one boring movie.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/18/2011 12:23:36 AM   
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but I frankly do NOT think HBO's "The Pacific" miniseries was boring.


Oh I do it was the worst war mini series I've ever seen. Boring as all get out. I personally enjoyed Band of Brothers much better.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/18/2011 1:27:04 AM   
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but I frankly do NOT think HBO's "The Pacific" miniseries was boring.


Oh I do it was the worst war mini series I've ever seen. Boring as all get out. I personally enjoyed Band of Brothers much better.


Then you haven't seen the winds of war. Very cheesy war miniseries

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/18/2011 1:31:46 AM   
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Do many of you find movies boring because of the content, or is it because your attention spans can't last beyond one minute? Sure, as I get older, I have the same problem, but I frankly do NOT think HBO's "The Pacific" miniseries was boring. Heck, I thought parts of "Band of Brothers" WAS boring, but that's my personal opinion.



Some of them are just plain boring. A lot of it depends on what makes it boring for you. Battle of the Bulge bores me to tears because it's so inaccurate. It's a chore for me to sit through.

The Thin Red Line bores me because of all the dialogue which has nothing to do with the movie. If it would have been shorter it would have been great.

I agree with Band of Brothers, as much as I love the series, parts of it bored me.

I can't believe someone labeled Kally's Hero's boring. I laugh everytime I think of Carrol O'Connor talking about the ionosphere!


I love that movie because of Carroll O'Connor. When his guy pronounces Carentan the French way and he berates him for not saying it like an American, I laughed my ass off! He's so politically incorrect! When he drives up and asks Uncle Leo where he's from and the reply is "Jersey City." and the cigar droops in O'Connor's mouth and he finally says, "Well that's OK! We've got a medal for you anyway!" Hilarious.

That movie kills me and I watch it every time it is on TV.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/18/2011 4:17:44 AM   
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you mean Pearl Harbor?


When you get down to it though "Midway" wasn't that great either.

Warspite1

No, but it was better than Pearl Harbor...in fact every film ever made has been better than that Pearl Harbor tripe - how could they have released such bilge?


Pearl Harbor was a chick flick with an ahistorical background. In that it succeeded quite well...

Warspite1

You may be right, but personally, I do not buy that at all. If the film makers wanted to make a "chick flick" set against the background of an (in)famous day in history then they would surely have called it something else. Calling a film Pearl Harbor says in big red letters about 100 foot tall - "Women stay away as this is war film and you will be bored witless".

I believe - and it is this that makes the end product quite correctly such a target for scorn - that the intention was to make a proper war movie - i.e. something that would appeal to men, but would have a love interest to ensure that there was a degree of universal appeal. That of course is a perfectly acceptable and well worn path - but it does not necessarily follow that in going down that path, the producers/directors/script writers of this film had to leave their brains at the door .

Sorry, but that film was just dumb in just about every way possible. "I think World War II just started" - AAARRGGHHH

Worst. War. Film. Ever .





I understand where you are coming from on this. I was infuriated at the liberties they took with their story line. Let's see... a violation of the neutrality act by the USAAC to start with... the use of modern USN ships in the attack scenes... the list is too long to go into.

But when it came on television a few months ago and I decided to watch it as a romance movie that I got it... the plot is the love triangle. The war is merely the setting that makes the plot flow. Of course, the reason I decided to watch it that way is because Kate Beckinsale is gorgeous...


Thinking it over, I'll bet that it was written to be a romance but then the Hollywood types had to try and turn it into a hybrid: "Okay! Let's see... what can we do to bring the guys in as well? I know, dogfight scenes! Big explosions! We'll name it... PEARL HARBOR!!! That'll bring 'em in..."

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/18/2011 8:41:31 AM   
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I decided to watch it that way is because Kate Beckinsale is gorgeous...


Yes but she's much more goregeous in Underworld series.

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RE: Most Boring War-Movie - 1/18/2011 11:01:48 AM   
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Of course, the reason I decided to watch it that way is because Kate Beckinsale is gorgeous...
Yes but she's much more goregeous in Underworld series.

Stay away from her you boobs!!! She is my Soulmate. PH was pathetic & cheesebag but Kate's scenes are always worth viewing as long as you mute the volume during the whiner scenes. This scene was amusing when the potato peeler says "just another damned drill";
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv1niwxQgoY




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