PzB74
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Good points; the game engine itself is hard to appease and certain ac types do perform better than they should have even under ideal conditions.
The limitation of ship ammo is one approach by the programmers to try to make sea combat more historical and less deadly. The AE air engine has made A2A less deadly as well.
I concur that ac sea and land accuracy would benefit from a similar tweak.
I would also like to give merchant raiders and subs a x4 or x6 ammo loadout. As it is today they can hardly sink a single ship before returning to port.
If we conclude that it's not gamey to equip the carriers with any given ac loadout we should indeed consider whether such an approach is practical.
Obviously the Allies will receive enough replacement ac to sustain heavy losses, this may not be the case in early 44 and after sustaining heavy operational losses.
Another point is trained pilots; if we can shoot down enough Allied carrier planes pilot quality will suffer and pools will drain maybe even faster than ac pools, no?
Agree; the use of such a strategy is highly risky and should only be considered under favorable circumstances; like e.g. an all out enemy amph assault on the Line Islands or Marianas.
I'm not so worried about some ac getting past the Uber CAP; by fielding 16 Jap carriers and 100 support ships we will at most risk loosing a few ships and damage to another few.
We would then be able to withdraw to try again another day - enemy strike losses would have to be heavy no matter which kind of results they can achive.
If you consider an Allied carrier fleet with 1000 ac there would be ca 350 fighters and 650 bombers.
I doubt if any sane commander would leave less than 3-40% of his fighers on CAP during an amph operation. Some bombers would also be on search duties.
This would leave a force of ca 200+ fighters and 400 bombers. This force would have to attack in a single coordinated attack to stand a chance against a Jap force of 1000 fighters were 70% were set to CAP.
With radar working the attacking force would have to get past a lot of defending fighters and as you know very well Al, attacking units not sweeping suffer against CAP.
If weather was poor enemy bomber accuracy would be reduced and disrupted by heavy flak and numerous Jap surface targets.
I think it should be possible to claim 2-300 enemy carrier aircraft shot down with the loss of ca 100 CAP fighters. In addition to this another 100-150 enemy ac would be damaged and unavailable for a follow up strike. This would effectively turn the tables and force the enemy to conisder to flee and abandon his invasion force.
Why on earth am I discussing this with you Al! 
..The Saratoga was reported not sunk the other day, much as I feared 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 05, 43
Sub Attacks
A couple of sub sinkings today; a tiny sloop and a freighter travelling alone.
Sub attack near San Francisco at 213,74
Japanese Ships
SS I-26
Allied Ships
YMS-114, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
YMS-115
SS I-26 launches 6 torpedoes at YMS-114
I-26 diving deep ....
YMS-115 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-115 attacking submerged sub ....
YMS-115 is out of ASW ammo
YMS-115 is out of ASW ammo
YMS-115 is out of ASW ammo
YMS-115 is out of ASW ammo
YMS-115 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-115 fails to find sub, continues to search...
YMS-115 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Submarine attack near Colombo at 27,49
Japanese Ships
SS I-30
Allied Ships
xAK Empire Raja, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Empire Raja is sighted by SS I-30
SS I-30 launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Empire Raja
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Air Combat
Very messy in the air today.
First 36 escort Zero's loose our Horn Island raid and turn home; then 36 Nicks sweep the island meeting ca 20 enemy fighters.
The battle is even sided with 6-7 ac lost on both sides. 27 unescorted Helens then go in and we loose some ac to the remaining CAP.
Then 2 A6M5 sweepers arrive to shoot down the last enemy CAP figher before the last 36 Oscars and Helens arrive to pound the place.
When all fighting is over the main A6M5 sweep of 16 ac arrive.
Weather forecast promised clear weather over Horn Island today but it was completely wrong.
Also a bit frustrating with the sweeps and uncoordinated bomber attacks from a base with adequare air support and 2!! Air HQs.
A dozen enemy heavy bomber raids against Daly Waters; they all come in at 10k feet, guess they came in one by one just
to give me more annoyance in clicking past them and prepping the AAR.. 
So Carnarvon and Daly Waters are under attack but we won't put up a fight here right now; not tactically sound.
Morning Air attack on Carnarvon , at 49,133
Morning Air attack on Horn Island , at 91,128
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 32
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 12
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Horn Island , at 91,128
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 2
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
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Morning Air attack on Horn Island , at 91,128
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11
Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 4000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Carnarvon , at 49,133
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Beaufort VIII x 15
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-17F Fortress x 11
B-24D Liberator x 5
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 64
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Morning Air attack on Carnarvon , at 49,133
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Allied aircraft
Beaufort VIII x 9
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 20
B-24D1 Liberator x 24
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 62
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6
No Allied losses
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12
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Morning Air attack on Carnarvon , at 49,133
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 19
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 15
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 7
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 12
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 12
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 30
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
No Allied losses
Runway hits 22
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Runway hits 18
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Morning Air attack on Horn Island , at 91,128
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 1
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Horn Island , at 91,128
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 36
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 36
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 19
Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 4000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Horn Island , at 91,128
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 16
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,13
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 20
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 14000 feet
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Ground Combat
Andy is securing the dot islands in Gulf of Carpentaria. Since these bases are well within the large Allied base complexes near Cairns
there is no use fighting for them. A company of our paratroopers could not defend against a 5 times stronger assault.
Ground combat at Groote Eylandt (82,130)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 252 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19
Defending force 50 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3
Allied adjusted assault: 15
Japanese adjusted defense: 3
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Groote Eylandt !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)
Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
1st Australian Para Bn /1
Defending units:
Yokosuka Assault SNLF /3
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Air Combat
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