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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 10:05:00 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 10:21:56 PM   
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Good evening - Tithe. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 11:22:08 PM   
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Good something or rather tithe.......

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 11:23:59 PM   
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He didn't get drunk in Sweden ...

If you read the link you will find out that he was battling it out with the Poles when he got the message that Denmark had declared war.

Guess the real reason he was so quick in chastising the Danes was because he wanted to get his hands on that cheap booze ASAP ...


Raging alcoholic... Of course, the Danish king at the time was a total nutbag. He made England's George III look like a steel rod of mental stability.

So, for those of us with a glancing interest in ancient Danish / Swedish wars (but not enough to read a book or anything like that), just how many genuine wars did you guys fight going way back? Wars, mind you, not border skirmishes or other 'neighborly' spats.

Ah, yes, the madness of King George. Thank THREAD for him...a sensible man in his position may not have 'lost' the colonies.


According to wikipedia, eleven.


Did you guys do anything besides fight with your neighbors? There are 4 wars against Russia and 3 against Poland-Lithuania that I can think of right off the top of my head.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 11:25:07 PM   
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Oh yeah. Like either Norway or England are innocent in all that.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 11:25:42 PM   
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Course cancelled  (but also  because I HATE electric circuit diagrams).  On the plus side, I'm on leave for 3 weeks 

You lucky stiff! Whatcha goin' to be doin' for three weeks?


Babysit.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 11:26:22 PM   
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Course cancelled  (but also  because I HATE electric circuit diagrams).  On the plus side, I'm on leave for 3 weeks 

You lucky stiff! Whatcha goin' to be doin' for three weeks?


My spidey sense is tingling and telling me it involves watching a small child


I rest my case.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/25/2011 11:27:00 PM   
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He didn't get drunk in Sweden ...

If you read the link you will find out that he was battling it out with the Poles when he got the message that Denmark had declared war.

Guess the real reason he was so quick in chastising the Danes was because he wanted to get his hands on that cheap booze ASAP ...


Raging alcoholic... Of course, the Danish king at the time was a total nutbag. He made England's George III look like a steel rod of mental stability.

So, for those of us with a glancing interest in ancient Danish / Swedish wars (but not enough to read a book or anything like that), just how many genuine wars did you guys fight going way back? Wars, mind you, not border skirmishes or other 'neighborly' spats.

Ah, yes, the madness of King George. Thank THREAD for him...a sensible man in his position may not have 'lost' the colonies.



It was my understanding that he didn't go off his nut till after he lost the 13 colonies.



Did we take all the sanity in all the UK with us when we split?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 2:25:51 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 3:53:38 AM   
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He didn't get drunk in Sweden ...

If you read the link you will find out that he was battling it out with the Poles when he got the message that Denmark had declared war.

Guess the real reason he was so quick in chastising the Danes was because he wanted to get his hands on that cheap booze ASAP ...



Man, I learn something all of the time in this thread !

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 3:55:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Grollub


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ORIGINAL: Grollub

He didn't get drunk in Sweden ...

If you read the link you will find out that he was battling it out with the Poles when he got the message that Denmark had declared war.

Guess the real reason he was so quick in chastising the Danes was because he wanted to get his hands on that cheap booze ASAP ...


Raging alcoholic... Of course, the Danish king at the time was a total nutbag. He made England's George III look like a steel rod of mental stability.

So, for those of us with a glancing interest in ancient Danish / Swedish wars (but not enough to read a book or anything like that), just how many genuine wars did you guys fight going way back? Wars, mind you, not border skirmishes or other 'neighborly' spats.

Ah, yes, the madness of King George. Thank THREAD for him...a sensible man in his position may not have 'lost' the colonies.


According to wikipedia, eleven.




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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 3:59:04 AM   
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G'night, y'all...



Wait, is T a SOUTHERN Dane ?

Although I think we spell it ya'll

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 4:08:51 AM   
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Hi all,

Very interesting...


Roger Ebert Blog (World famous fim critic):

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2011/01/post_4.html


quote:


Why 3D doesn't work and never will. Case closed.

I received a letter that ends, as far as I am concerned, the discussion about 3D. It doesn't work with our brains and it never will.

The notion that we are asked to pay a premium to witness an inferior and inherently brain-confusing image is outrageous. The case is closed.

This letter is from Walter Murch, seen at left, the most respected film editor and sound designer in the modern cinema. As a editor, he must be intimately expert with how an image interacts with the audience's eyes. He won an Academy Award in 1979 for his work on "Apocalypse Now," whose sound was a crucial aspect of its effect.

Wikipedia writes: "Murch is widely acknowledged as the person who coined the term Sound Designer, and along with colleagues developed the current standard film sound format, the 5.1 channel array, helping to elevate the art and impact of film sound to a new level. "Apocalypse Now" was the first multi-channel film to be mixed using a computerized mixing board." He won two more Oscars for the editing and sound mixing of "The English Patient."


"He is perhaps the only film editor in history," the Wikipedia entry observes, "to have received Academy nominations for films edited on four different systems:

• "Julia" (1977) using upright Moviola
• "Apocalypse Now" (1979), "Ghost" (1990), and "The Godfather, Part III" (1990) using KEM flatbed
• "The English Patient" (1996) using Avid.
• "Cold Mountain" (2003) using Final Cut Pro on an off-the shelf PowerMac G4.



Now read what Walter Murch says about 3D:

Hello Roger,

I read your review of "Green Hornet" and though I haven't seen the film, I agree with your comments about 3D.

The 3D image is dark, as you mentioned (about a camera stop darker) and small. Somehow the glasses "gather in" the image -- even on a huge Imax screen -- and make it seem half the scope of the same image when looked at without the glasses.

I edited one 3D film back in the 1980's -- "Captain Eo" -- and also noticed that horizontal movement will strobe much sooner in 3D than it does in 2D. This was true then, and it is still true now. It has something to do with the amount of brain power dedicated to studying the edges of things. The more conscious we are of edges, the earlier strobing kicks in.



The biggest problem with 3D, though, is the "convergence/focus" issue. A couple of the other issues -- darkness and "smallness" -- are at least theoretically solvable. But the deeper problem is that the audience must focus their eyes at the plane of the screen -- say it is 80 feet away. This is constant no matter what.

But their eyes must converge at perhaps 10 feet away, then 60 feet, then 120 feet, and so on, depending on what the illusion is. So 3D films require us to focus at one distance and converge at another. And 600 million years of evolution has never presented this problem before. All living things with eyes have always focussed and converged at the same point.

If we look at the salt shaker on the table, close to us, we focus at six feet and our eyeballs converge (tilt in) at six feet. Imagine the base of a triangle between your eyes and the apex of the triangle resting on the thing you are looking at. But then look out the window and you focus at sixty feet and converge also at sixty feet. That imaginary triangle has now "opened up" so that your lines of sight are almost -- almost -- parallel to each other.





We can do this. 3D films would not work if we couldn't. But it is like tapping your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time, difficult. So the "CPU" of our perceptual brain has to work extra hard, which is why after 20 minutes or so many people get headaches. They are doing something that 600 million years of evolution never prepared them for. This is a deep problem, which no amount of technical tweaking can fix. Nothing will fix it short of producing true "holographic" images.

Consequently, the editing of 3D films cannot be as rapid as for 2D films, because of this shifting of convergence: it takes a number of milliseconds for the brain/eye to "get" what the space of each shot is and adjust.

And lastly, the question of immersion. 3D films remind the audience that they are in a certain "perspective" relationship to the image. It is almost a Brechtian trick. Whereas if the film story has really gripped an audience they are "in" the picture in a kind of dreamlike "spaceless" space. So a good story will give you more dimensionality than you can ever cope with.

So: dark, small, stroby, headache inducing, alienating. And expensive. The question is: how long will it take people to realize and get fed up?

All best wishes,

Walter Murch


Salt shaker and landscape Photoshops by Marie Haws.



Leo "Apollo11"



Very interesting. I am a certified movie buff, I appreciate this. Thanks for sharing.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 4:09:42 AM   
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I just realised a similarity between the newest member of the Swedish royal house, the duke of Vastergotland aka Ockelbo Hillbilly gymowner(and if you like him, this is just pure nonsense by me trying to be funny, ok?) and the US submarinefleet in the early war in the pacific

Apperantly the man has defect torpedoes also, because i have yet to see proof of his torpedoes working. Atleast the USs subs managed to score a few hits







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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 4:57:59 AM   
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I think I just came up with the topic equivalent of a " faber ";

having your name appear on all of the threads in a subforum .

Not as hard as a faber, but its something.


And yes I had a bit too much to drink after work today

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 5:00:58 AM   
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G'night, y'all...



Wait, is T a SOUTHERN Dane ?

Although I think we spell it ya'll



I've always seen it as y'all. Since it is a contraction of "you all" it seems to me that it has to be "y'all"...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 5:07:28 AM   
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G'night, y'all...



Wait, is T a SOUTHERN Dane ?

Although I think we spell it ya'll



I've always seen it as y'all. Since it is a contraction of "you all" it seems to me that it has to be "y'all"...



One would think so, but we drawl it out a bit when we say it with an emphasis on the " Yaaa "part.

I suppose either way is acceptable.


Wiki agrees with you though :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y'all


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 5:22:41 AM   
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Morning Tithe... Ya'll...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 5:30:54 AM   
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Morning Tithe... Ya'll...





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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 7:46:50 AM   
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Morning guys. 4th training unit finished....hot feet, exhausted arms.

But i feel iam closer to the enlightenment!!!

BTW:

The Tokyo Police Sprint!!!
(singing while sprinting:)

Trainer:
All others:

Ichi - Ichi - Ich - ni!
So re

Cho - Cho - Cho!
So re

Ichi
So re

San
So re

Chi
So re

Ich
Hai!

Ni
Hai!

San
Hai!

Chi
Hai!

Ichi - Ni - San - Chi
Ichi - ni - san - chi


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 8:42:57 AM   
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Hi all,

Good morning!


Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 9:50:54 AM   
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Good morning friends

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 9:55:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo


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ORIGINAL: Grollub

He didn't get drunk in Sweden ...

If you read the link you will find out that he was battling it out with the Poles when he got the message that Denmark had declared war.

Guess the real reason he was so quick in chastising the Danes was because he wanted to get his hands on that cheap booze ASAP ...


Raging alcoholic... Of course, the Danish king at the time was a total nutbag. He made England's George III look like a steel rod of mental stability.

So, for those of us with a glancing interest in ancient Danish / Swedish wars (but not enough to read a book or anything like that), just how many genuine wars did you guys fight going way back? Wars, mind you, not border skirmishes or other 'neighborly' spats.

Ah, yes, the madness of King George. Thank THREAD for him...a sensible man in his position may not have 'lost' the colonies.


According to wikipedia, eleven.


Did you guys do anything besides fight with your neighbors? There are 4 wars against Russia and 3 against Poland-Lithuania that I can think of right off the top of my head.

Not much no - we were quite busy during those centuries.

Apart from those eleven wars with Denmark, we went up against the Russians ten times and Poland-Lithuania six times.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 10:06:04 AM   
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The Swedes are an ambitious lot. Comes from being drunk all the time, and having no women...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 10:22:25 AM   
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Blah!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 12:08:29 PM   
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tithe

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 12:40:51 PM   
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Happy Australia Day!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 12:59:46 PM   
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The Swedes are an ambitious lot. Comes from being drunk all the time, and having no women...

And driving on the wrong side of the road for so long...

I read recently that they came to their senses and did the right thing in 1967. An enlightened lot. How many other countries out there *changed* the nature of their driving midway through the 20th century? Seriously-can anyone think of another example?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 1:00:45 PM   
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Happy Australia Day!

Oi! Good on 'ya Oz!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/26/2011 1:51:35 PM   
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Hi all,

Oh my...

quote:


China to create largest mega city in the world with 42 million people

by DailyTelegraph UK

China is planning to create the world's biggest mega city by merging nine cities to create a metropolis twice the size of Wales with a population of 42 million.



City planners in south China have laid out an ambitious plan to merge together the nine cities that lie around the Pearl River Delta.

The "Turn The Pearl River Delta Into One" scheme will create a 16,000 sq mile urban area that is 26 times larger geographically than Greater London, or twice the size of Wales.

The new mega-city will cover a large part of China's manufacturing heartland, stretching from Guangzhou to Shenzhen and including Foshan, Dongguan, Zhongshan, Zhuhai, Jiangmen, Huizhou and Zhaoqing. Together, they account for nearly a tenth of the Chinese economy.

Over the next six years, around 150 major infrastructure projects will mesh the transport, energy, water and telecommunications networks of the nine cities together, at a cost of some 2 trillion yuan (£190 billion). An express rail line will also connect the hub with nearby Hong Kong.

"The idea is that when the cities are integrated, the residents can travel around freely and use the health care and other facilities in the different areas," said Ma Xiangming, the chief planner at the Guangdong Rural and Urban Planning Institute and a senior consultant on the project.

However, he said no name had been chosen for the area. "It will not be like Greater London or Greater Tokyo because there is no one city at the heart of this megalopolis," he said. "We cannot just name it after one of the existing cities."

"It will help spread industry and jobs more evenly across the region and public services will also be distributed more fairly," he added.

Mr Ma said that residents would be able to use universal rail cards and buy annual tickets to allow them to commute around the mega-city.

Twenty-nine rail lines, totalling 3,100 miles, will be added, cutting rail journeys around the urban area to a maximum of one hour between different city centres. According to planners, phone bills could also fall by 85 per cent and hospitals and schools will be improved.

"Residents will be able to choose where to get their services and will use the internet to find out which hospital, for example, is less busy," said Mr Ma.

Pollution, a key problem in the Pearl River Delta because of its industrialisation, will also be addressed with a united policy, and the price of petrol and electricity could also be unified.

The southern conglomeration is intended to wrestle back a competitive advantage from the growing urban areas around Beijing and Shanghai.

By the end of the decade, China plans to move ever greater numbers into its cities, creating some city zones with 50 million to 100 million people and "small" city clusters of 10 million to 25 million.

In the north, the area around Beijing and Tianjin, two of China's most important cities, is being ringed with a network of high-speed railways that will create a super-urban area known as the Bohai Economic Rim. Its population could be as high as 260 million.

The process of merging the Bohai region has already begun with the connection of Beijing to Tianjing by a high speed railway that completes the 75 mile journey in less than half an hour, providing an axis around which to create a network of feeder cities.

As the process gathers pace, total investment in urban infrastructure over the next five years is expected to hit £685 billion, according to an estimate by the British Chamber of Commerce, with an additional £300 billion spend on high speed rail and £70 billion on urban transport.



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