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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/14/2011 1:10:28 PM   
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.B Engine(s) output: 112,500bhp
.B Top Speed: 29.5 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 13-inch (330mm), 16 x 5.1-inch (130mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 35,500 tons
.B Thickest armour: 9.75-inch (belt)
.P The Dunkerques were a class of two, fast, capital ships that were built
for the Marine Nationale (MN) between 1932 and 1938. They are generally classed
as fast battleships, although their design had much in common with the
battlecruiser concept, and indeed are considered as such by some.
.P Although the Italian Navy was the main focus of French naval concern between
the wars, the MN could not afford to ignore the re-arming of the Kriegsmarine,
and in particular, the three new pocket-battleships of the Deutschland-class. The
first of this latter class had entered service in 1933, and it was in response to
the Deutschlands that the Dunkerques were built.
.P The German ships were built as commerce raiders that were "faster than any
more powerful ship, and more powerful than any faster ship. However, the
Dunkerques were designed to be faster, more powerful and better armoured than the
German ships, and they achieved all three targets.
.P Although the comparison with the Deutschlands was favourable, the Dunkerques
were, in all but speed, undoubtedly at a disadvantage when compared to the
contemporary battleship classes, and their speed would be beaten by the newer
battleships laid down during the late thirties.
.P The Dunkerques main armament was fitted in two quadruple turrets, both fitted
forward in a bid to save weight. The guns were sited slightly further apart than
was traditionally the case, in order to try and avoid one lucky hit disabling
both turrets. Sixteen 5.1-inch guns fitted in three quadruple and two twin turrets
provided their secondary armament. Close-range anti-aircraft (AA) weaponry came in
the form of eight 37mm and thirty-two 13.2mm guns. A catapult was fitted aft, and
these ships could operate up to two aircraft.

.P Armour protection was light; certainly if these ships are to be considered
battleships. Their armour belt, designed to withstand the 11-inch shells of the
Deutschlands, ranged from 9.75-inches at it thickest, reducing to 5.75-inches,
while horizontal armour was 5-inches at its thickest.
.P Their designed speed of 29.5 knots was comfortable exceeded in trials and they
remained amongst the fastest capital ships in the world at the outbreak of World
War II.
.P The two ships of the class were named after French cities, Dunkerque being a
port in northern France, and Strasbourg a city in eastern France. The choice of
these names is interesting and is likely to have been driven by anti-German
sentiment between the wars; Dunkerque was where the German offensive in 1914
stalled, and the province of Alsace (of which Strasbourg is the capital) was
handed back to France at the end of World War I, having been taken by the Germans
after the war of 1870.
.P Dunkerque was completed in April 1937, and at the start of the Second World
War, she was part of the Force de Raid based in Brest. This force, commanded by
Admiral Gensoul, was designed to act as a troubleshooting force that could be
used to search out and attack German surface raiders that ventured into the
Atlantic. The Force de Raid initially consisted of the aircraft carrier Béarn;
the fast battleships Dunkerque and Strasbourg; the light cruisers Montcalm,
Georges Leygues and Gloire; and escorting destroyers.
.P At the beginning of October, Gensoul's fleet, less Strasbourg, was sent to
Dakar, Senegal. They made up Force M, one of the eight groups of Allied ships
that were tasked with looking for German surface raiders. At the end of that
month they were deployed to guard KJ.4, a large Atlantic convoy, given that the
pocket-battleship Deutschland had just begun to make her presence felt in the
North Atlantic.
.P The following month the force was back at Brest, although they no longer had
an aircraft carrier with them. It was clear by now that Béarn was simply too slow
to be of assistance to Gensoul's task force and she left the Force de Raid. At
the end of November Dunkerque put to sea with Georges Leygues, Montcalm and two
destroyers, and headed for Iceland. The two German battlecruisers, Scharnhorst
and Gneisenau, were attempting a breakout into the Atlantic, although this
ultimately came to nothing (see Montcalm).
.P The remainder of 1939 and the early months of 1940 saw Gensoul's ships remain
at Brest, from where they continued to remain on stand-by, ready for any further
attempts by the Kriegsmarine to enter the Atlantic. They also formed part of the
distant escort for the convoy that took the French gold reserves to Canada.
.P Then, at the end of April 1940, with Italy increasingly likely to enter the
war, the Force de Raid, was transferred from Brest to Mers-el-Kebir, Algeria.
Dunkerque was there when the Italians declared war on the Allies on the 10th June
1940. On that day there was a report that an enemy cruiser was attempting to
break through the Strait of Gibraltar, and the Force de Raid was ordered to
search the area. The report proved false and on the return journey the cruisers
Galissonniere, Jean de Vienne and Marseillaise were all near missed by torpedoes
from Italian submarines.
.P Within a few weeks of the Force de Raid’sarrival in the Mediterranean, the
French were out of the war. An armistice was concluded with the Germans and
France and her empire were split into two; a German-occupied zone that covered
northern and western France, and a nominally independent country, known as Vichy
France, that administered itself and its large overseas empire. This arrangement
caused consternation in the United Kingdom, as it was feared that the French Fleet
was vulnerable to seizure by the Germans.
.P At the start of July the British therefore carried out their plan to seize the
French Fleet in order to ensure that its ships did not fall into German hands
(see Bretagne, Paris and Submarine Counter 4937). When Admiral Darlan refused any
of the options given to them by the British, the Royal Navy fired upon the Vichy
warships in the harbour. Dunkerque was badly damaged during the attack, having
been hit by three shells.
.P Aircraft from the aircraft carrier Ark Royal returned to Mers-el-Kebir two
days later to ensure Dunkerque was sunk or at least, incapable of further
service. A torpedo hit a boat, full of explosives, that was moored alongside
Dunkerque and the resulting damage ensured that the battleship was put out of
action for almost a year.
.P Ultimately, in February 1942, she managed to get back to the main Vichy French
Mediterranean naval base at Toulon where she received further repair work.
Dunkerque was eventually scuttled that November when the Germans attempted to
capture the Vichy Fleet (see Strasbourg).
.P Dunkerque was raised after the war and she was scrapped in 1958.


“Force de Raid” is the French spelling Raide cannot be substituted for Raid.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/14/2011 1:25:21 PM   
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.B Engines output: 37,200bhp
.B Top speed: 21.5 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 6.1-inch (155mm), 6 x 2.9-inch (75mm) guns
.B Aircraft: 25 (operational max) plus 15 in reserve
.B Displacement (full load): 28,400 tons
.B Thickest armour: 3.1-inch (belt)
.P Béarn was the only aircraft carrier completed by the Marine Nationale (MN)
by the outbreak of World War II. She began life as a Normandie-class battleship,
but having been laid down in 1914, construction was halted during the First World
War.
.P In 1919, with the war won, work on Béarn resumed, but she was no longer
destined to be finished as a battleship. With the British Royal Navy leading the
way on the development of naval aviation, the French were keen not to be left
behind, and, with a short flight deck fitted, landing-on trials were carried out
over the next two years.
.P In 1922, following the signing of the Washington Naval Treaty, it was decided
to complete Béarn as an aircraft-carrier, but a lack of money meant that the
project proceeded only very slowly. Work on her conversion began in 1923 and she
was completed four years later. Assistance was received from the British, who
provided plans for one of their own conversions - HMS Eagle.
.P Béarn was fitted with two hangars and she was able to carry up to 40 aircraft.
However, a maximum of just twenty-five could be operational at any one time, and
these were operated from the upper hangar. The remaining reserve aircraft were
stowed in the lower hanger. These two hangars were served by three lifts.
.P Vertical protection consisted of an armour belt 3.1-inches thick rather than
the 9.5-inch belt that she was originally designed with. For horizontal
protection there were three layers: a 1-inch armoured flight deck, a main deck of
similar thickness, and a 3-inch lower hangar deck.
.P Defensive armament was provided by eight single 6.1-inch guns mounted in
casemates in the hull. For anti-aircraft (AA) defence there were six 75mm guns
and, later, eight 37mm guns were added. The armament package was rounded off with
four 21-inch underwater torpedo tubes.
.P By the time of the outbreak of the Second World War, speed was a problem for
Béarn. She could only manage 21.5 knots and with the arrival of fast battleships
during the thirties, she was no longer able to operate with the fleet.
.P However, this was not her biggest problem. The lack of money generally, and to
the MN specifically, meant that the development of naval aircraft was severely
limited during the inter-war years, and consequently, by September 1939, Béarn's
aircraft were obsolete. She carried 1931 vintage Levasseur torpedo-bombers and
Dewoitine D37 fighters which were actually withdrawn from service two months
after the outbreak of war....
.P Béarn was named after a former province of France, located in the south of the
country.
.P Béarn was completed in May 1927 and at the outbreak of World War II she was
part of the Force de Raid based in Brest. This force, commanded by Admiral
Gensoul, was designed to act as a troubleshooting force that could be used to
search out and attack German surface raiders that ventured into the Atlantic. The
Force de Raid initially consisted of Béarn; the fast battleships Dunkerque and
Strasbourg; the light cruisers Montcalm, Georges Leygues and Gloire; and
escorting destroyers. In October the Force de Raid were deployed in search of
German surface raiders operating in the Atlantic, although they were to play no
part in the finding and destruction of Graf Spee later that year.
.P After just two months of war, it was clear that Béarn was proving to be
something of a liability to the effectiveness of the Force de Raid; she was
simply too slow, while her aircraft were obsolete and proving unreliable. Béarn
was detached from Gensoul's force and the Americans then used her as a aircraft
transport for aircraft sold to the French.

.P In May 1940 she sailed with the cruisers Jeanne D'Arc and Émile Bertin for
North America as part of an operation to transfer French gold reserves to Canada.
Whilst in North America Béarn was loaded with crated aircraft ready for the
return journey. However, she and her escorts were still there at the time of the
signing of the armistice with Germany.
.P The three ships were ordered to the French-owned Caribbean islands of
Martinique and Guadeloupe; Béarn and Émile Bertin sailed for the former, while
Jeanne D'Arc docked in the latter island.
.P In July 1940, when the British carried out their attacks on the Vichy French
fleet at Mers-El-Kebir and Dakar and also seized French ships berthed at ports in
the United Kingdom and Egypt, they left these three ships in the West Indies
alone. No doubt distance played its part in the decision, which was all about
keeping the French fleet out of German hands. However, the Royal Navy maintained
a watching brief on the islands until May 1942, when, under pressure from the
United States, the Vichy authorities agreed to their demilitarisation.
.P On the 30th June 1943 Béarn was transferred to Free French control, the Forces
Navales Françaises Libres (FNFL). She was obviously no-more fit for front line
duties than she had been in 1939, however she was successfully used in the role
of aircraft transporter between the United States and the United Kingdom, and it
was in this role that she saw out the war.
.P After the war, Béarn was initially used to transport aircraft to the French
colony of Indo-China, and was later relegated to a training role. After a stint
as a submarine tender, Béarn was scrapped in 1967.



I am leaving it alone but technically “AA” as used here is an incorrect term.

During World War II “Flak” was the correct term in Europe “AA” was the correct term in the Far East.



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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/14/2011 3:49:08 PM   
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Three things:

What is the difference between SHP, BHP and HP?

Not sure I understood the point about Force de Raid(e)

Anti-aircraft (AA) is used in all write-ups for consistency.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/14/2011 5:36:45 PM   
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BHP: The unit of power in the British engineering system, = 550 foot-pounds of work per second = 33,000 foot-pounds per minute, approximately 745.6999 watts. Abbr. hp. and abbr. B.H.P.

HP: Horsepower is defined as work done over time. The exact definition of one horsepower is 33,000 lb.ft./minute. Put another way, if you were to lift 33,000 pounds one foot over a period of one minute, you would have been working at the rate of one horsepower. In this case, you'd have expended one horsepower-minute of energy.

SHP: Standard mechanical horsepower is defined as about 33,000 ft-lbf/min, or 745.7 watts. However, there are many different official and unofficial definitions of horsepower. Some of these definitions refer to different ways of measuring power for a specific application ("Brake horsepower”, “Drawbar horsepower”, “Air horsepower”, and etc.).





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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/15/2011 7:56:26 AM   
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Second and last example of a French carrier - this time Marechal Ney. QUESTION: I have seen Marechal spelt with an accent over the e and without. Which version is correct please?

.P This is a World In Flames "What if" counter that gives the French player the
opportunity to build one of two small aircraft carriers; provided she remains in
the game long enough.
.P As truly hypothetical ships there are no technical details available, but the
values given to these counters by ADG suggest that they would have been of the
escort carrier type; relatively small vessels of a fairly basic construction that
were more lightly armed and armoured than fleet carriers, and with a slower
speed.
.P The two carrier counters appear in the French force pool in 1940 (Suchet) and
1941 (Marechal Ney) and they allow the French player to explore options that
would have been open to the French had the German attack on France in May 1940
been repulsed. As a result of a stalemate on the Franco-German border, the
Germans could have turned their attention to the U-boat war more quickly and in
bigger numbers.
.P In such a scenario the French need to purchase military supplies from the
United States would have continued, and these supply convoys would have needed
the protection of increasing numbers of escort vessels, including carriers.
.P The two ships have been given the name of French Marshals from the Napoleonic
era, Louis Gabriel Suchet and Michel Ney.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/15/2011 10:59:53 AM   
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Maréchal, in french, définitely needs an accent.

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Second and last example of a French carrier - this time Marechal Ney. QUESTION: I have seen Marechal spelt with an accent over the e and without. Which version is correct please?

.P This is a World In Flames "What if" counter that gives the French player the
opportunity to build one of two small aircraft carriers; provided she remains in
the game long enough.
.P As truly hypothetical ships there are no technical details available, but the
values given to these counters by ADG suggest that they would have been of the
escort carrier type; relatively small vessels of a fairly basic construction that
were more lightly armed and armoured than fleet carriers, and with a slower
speed.
.P The two carrier counters appear in the French force pool in 1940 (Suchet) and
1941 (Marechal Ney) and they allow the French player to explore options that
would have been open to the French had the German attack on France in May 1940
been repulsed. As a result of a stalemate on the Franco-German border, the
Germans could have turned their attention to the U-boat war more quickly and in
bigger numbers.
.P In such a scenario the French need to purchase military supplies from the
United States would have continued, and these supply convoys would have needed
the protection of increasing numbers of escort vessels, including carriers.
.P The two ships have been given the name of French Marshals from the Napoleonic
era, Louis Gabriel Suchet and Michel Ney.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/15/2011 12:00:17 PM   
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Thanks Froonp - I will make the changes to the write-up on the website and the master file.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/15/2011 12:17:40 PM   
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"Maréchal Ney" - Michel Ney, 1st Duc d'Elchingen, 1st Prince de la Moskowa (January 10, 1769 – December 7, 1815) was a French soldier and military commander during the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. He was one of the original 18 Marshals of France created by Napoleon I. He was known as Le Rougeaud ("red faced" or "ruddy") by his men and nicknamed le Brave des Braves ("the bravest of the brave") by Napoleon.


"Maréchal Suchet" - Louis Gabriel Suchet, 1st Duc d'Albufera (March 2, 1770 – January 3, 1826) was a Marshal of France and one of Napoleon's most brilliant generals.


Since CVL Maréchal Ney has the prefix Maréchal shouldn’t CVL Suchet be renamed CVL Maréchal Suchet?



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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/15/2011 12:21:17 PM   
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quote:

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"Maréchal Ney" - Michel Ney, 1st Duc d'Elchingen, 1st Prince de la Moskowa (January 10, 1769 – December 7, 1815) was a French soldier and military commander during the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. He was one of the original 18 Marshals of France created by Napoleon I. He was known as Le Rougeaud ("red faced" or "ruddy") by his men and nicknamed le Brave des Braves ("the bravest of the brave") by Napoleon.


"Maréchal Suchet" - Louis Gabriel Suchet, 1st Duc d'Albufera (March 2, 1770 – January 3, 1826) was a Marshal of France and one of Napoleon's most brilliant generals.


Since CVL Maréchal Ney has the prefix Maréchal shouldn’t CVL Suchet be renamed CVL Maréchal Suchet?


Warspite1

No doubting his bravery at all (how many horses is he supposed to have shot from under him at Waterloo?) - but no doubting either the pigs ear he made of that battle and the earlier clash at Quatre Bras - whoops!

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/16/2011 9:25:20 PM   
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Does anyone know anything about the French destroyer Bourrasque? I have it that she started the war as part of the 4th Destroyer Division and was based in Brest. However, between then and Dunkirk in May 1940 I can find nothing. Any ideas anyone?

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 1/17/2011 2:52:14 AM   
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www.naval-history.net
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www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2365639/posts
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Saturday, September 2, 1939

French Force de Raid, Atlantic - the Brest-based Force of battlecruisers DUNKERQUE, STRASBOURG, light cruisers GEORGES LEYGUES, GLOIRE, MONTCALM and large destroyers L'AUDACIEUX, LE FANTASQUE, LE MALIN, LE TERRIBLE, LE TRIOMPHANT, L'INDOMPTABLE, MOGADOR, VOLTA was ordered to Casablanca at high speed to protect the North African ports from attack from the sea, departing at 2000/2nd. The 2nd Destroyer Division of destroyers FOUGUEUX, FRONDEUR, L'ADROIT and 5th Division BRESTOIS, BOULONNNAIS, FOUDROYANT left Brest on the 2nd as local escort and to carry out an anti-submarine sweep in the local approaches. The local escort returned to Brest on the 3rd.

Minelaying cruiser LA TOUR D'AUVERGNE (former PLUTON), also at Brest, sailed with the Force de Raid to lay a defensive minefield off the Moroccan coast. She was detached on the 4th and arrived, unescorted, at Casablanca on the 5th, where she remained until her loss on the 13th.

When intelligence revealed the threat did not exist, the operations were cancelled and the forces arrived back at Brest at 0740 on the 6th. They received an additional escort from the 4th Destroyer Division with destroyers BOURRASQUE, ORAGE, OURAGAN, which departed Brest on the 5th.

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Saturday, October 7, 1939

HERMES and CARADOC proceeded to Brest and en route, HERMES was met by French destroyers BOURRASQUE, ORAGE, and MISTRAL, which had also departed Brest on the 7th. The French ships arrived back on the 8th.

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Thursday, October 19, 1939

Destroyer BOURRASQUE reached Casablanca on the 17th with convoy 3.K of steamers MARRAKECH and KERGUELEN. They had left Le Verdon on the 13th. Destroyers BOURRASQUE and FOUDROYANT then departed Casablanca and arrived at Gibraltar on this date.

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Sunday, October 22. 1939

Convoy HG.4 of 41 ships left Gibraltar, escorted by destroyers GRENVILLE, GIPSY and minesweeper LEDA, and by French destroyers BOURRASQUE and FOUDROYANT from the 22nd until their arrival at Brest on the 29th. Destroyers WISHART and VIDETTE provided local escort, detached on the 23rd and patrolled off Cadiz. The convoy arrived at Liverpool on the 29th, with GRENVILLE, GIPSY and LEDA arriving on the 30th.

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May 23, 1940
French torpedo boats Bourrasque, Frondeur, Orage and Fougueux arrive at Boulogne to support the defenses.

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May 28, 1940

French Amiral Marcel Landriau was named commander of the "Pas de Calais" Flotilla at Dover.

This force, whose flagship was sloop SAVORGNAN DE BRAZZA at Dover, was composed of large destroyers EPERVIER and LEOPARD, destroyers FOUGUEUX and FRONDEUR of the 2nd Destroyer Division, BOURRASQUE of the 4th Destroyer Division, FOUDROYANT of the 5th Destroyer Division, CYCLONE, MISTRAL, SIROCCO of the 6th Destroyer Division, torpedo boats BRANLEBAS, L'INCOMPRISE, CORDELIERE of the 11th Torpedo Boat Division, MELPOMENE, BOUCLIER, FLORE of the 14th Torpedo Boat Division, sloops ARRAS, AMIENS, EPINAL, AMIRAL MOUCHEZ, auxiliary sloops PATRIE, REINA DES FLOTS, ASIE, CERONS, SAUTERNES, PESSAC, LISTRAC, L'ATLANIQUE, but not all ships were fit for operations.

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May 30, 1940

Mined off the Belgium port of Nieuport and sunk by shore batteries.




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/2/2011 4:28:16 PM   
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Please see attached example of a Commonwealth ASW counter. This deals with Operation Dynamo.

.P These ASW counters are only used if playing with the Convoy In Flames optional
rule. The counters do not represent any specific individual convoy or any
particular ships, but are designed to represent convoy escort groups. They have
mixed values reflecting the fact that the make-up of an escort group could differ
from one convoy to the next. Examples of escort vessels used during the Second
World War were: escort carriers, destroyers, destroyer escorts, corvettes,
sloops, trawlers etc - in other words a wide variety of ship type was used in the
defence of merchant vessels.
.P At the start of the war the Royal Navy (RN) had too few escorts to allow it to
undertake all its required duties; protecting convoys, escorting capital ships
etc. Matters were made worse by heavy losses incurred off Norway and the Low
Countries, but gradually, the problem was resolved. A large shipbuilding program
was begun, almost from scratch, in Canada, while in the United Kingdom, priority
was given to the construction of specialised escort vessels. The Lend-Lease bill
passed in the United States further assisted the cause. As the war progressed,
the escorts available to the navies of the Commonwealth not only grew in number,
but also in effectiveness - in particular their anti-aircraft (AA) and anti-
submarine (ASW) capability.
.P There were two main threats to ocean-going convoys: Surface raiders and
U-boats, while closer to shore, aircraft and mines were a particular menace.
Unfortunately for the Kriegsmarine, the surface raiders record against Allied
convoys was ultimately to prove a disappointment. In contrast to its U-boat arm,
neither its warships nor its assortment of auxiliary cruisers came anywhere near
causing the level of destruction they had hoped for.
.P Unrestricted submarine warfare by the Germans in the First World War brought
the United Kingdom to the brink of defeat. The UK survived thanks largely to the
introduction of the convoy system which provided the previously unguarded and
mostly unarmed merchant vessels with warship protection.
.P At the outbreak of World War II convoys were re-introduced as quickly as
possible, but there had been a lack of investment in time and resources devoted
to the subject of convoy defence during the inter-war years. This not only led to
the shortage of specialist escort vessels, but those the RN did have were fitted
with only rudimentary AA and ASW equipment.
.P Fortunately for the British, the Kriegsmarine were equally, if not more
unprepared, and actually started the war with only fifty-seven U-boats. Of
these, just twenty-six were capable of Atlantic operations. The Germans moved
quickly to rectify this deficiency via a large scale U-boat build program, and
great success was achieved in the first half of the Second World War. This led
Winston Churchill to later admit that the only thing that frightened him in World
War II was the U-boat threat. For a time the U-boats were sinking more merchant
ships than could be replaced, but in the end, the greater resources open to the
Allies; more ships and better technology, ground the U-boat menace into oblivion.
.P During the Second World War, the potency of aircraft as ship killers became
evident. Most convoy routes came under threat from air attack at some point
along their length. To reach out into the Atlantic and Arctic, the Germans
employed their long range Focke-Wulf FW200 Condor aircraft that had a range of
2,212 miles (3,560km) and a 14-hour endurance. For more confined waters like the
North Sea, the English Channel and the Mediterranean, the Axis forces were able
to employ their shorter range aircraft in the ship killer role. Ultimately, a
combination of escort carriers and stronger AA capability on board the escorts
managed to neutralise this threat too. Mines were to prove a potent weapon too,
and the Germans were very active in sowing minefields throughout the war.
Clearing paths through these obstacles was a vital role and the minesweepers of
the RN saved many a ship with their unsung work.
.P Of all the Allied convoy routes, the Atlantic was the most important. The
Battle of the Atlantic was to be the longest battle in World War II. Had the
Allies lost, the United Kingdom could have been literally starved into defeat. It
is worth remembering here that the men of the Merchant Navy suffered a higher
percentage of losses compared to the British Army, RN or Royal Air Force in World
War II, and these losses were mostly incurred in bringing food and supplies to
the Britain.
.P In addition, the movement of troops from the United States and the far flung
colonies and dominions of the Commonwealth to the frontline; France, India, North
Africa etc would have been much more hazardous if the Axis had control of the
sea lanes. That this did not happen is down to the bravery and sacrifice of those
that fought the enemy in all major sea areas of the world. These write-ups tell
some of those stories.
.P Note, the date on the back of these ASW and ASW Carrier counters do not relate
in any meaningful way to actual build dates for the ships that took undertook the
convoy escort role during World War II. The counter date should therefore be
ignored. In addition, the counter mix is unbalanced in terms of origin of the
escorts and those with an aircraft component. As a result there will be a degree
of RN ship write-ups on Canadian counters and carrier units being used to
describe non-Carrier counters. Finally, because these smaller ships do not have
their own counter, some of the more important non-convoy related episodes of the
war that involved these ship types, are also told within some of these write-ups.
.P These counters give information on the main types of convoy escort that were
available to the RN and the dominion navies. This write-up looks at the B-class
destroyers - specifically, the flotilla leader, HMS Keith, and the most famous of
all evacuation operations, Dynamo.
.P One of the most keenly contested stretches of water during the Second World
War was the English Channel. There was the "Channel Dash" by three heavy units of
the Kriegsmarine in 1942 (see HMS Victorious); Neptune - the naval operation that
supported the Normandy landings in 1944 (see HMS Ramillies); and of course the
evacuation of Allied troops from Dunkirk in May and June 1940 (see this write-
up).
.P For the Royal Navy in World War II the Channel, which since 1066 had been the
impenetrable barrier that kept the United Kingdom safe from its continental foes,
would prove to be the scene of both triumph and tragedy. The events of May and
June 1940 provided both in equal measure.
.B
.B Name: HMS Keith
.B Engine(s) Output: 34,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 35 knots
.B Main Armament: 4 x 4.7-inch (119mm) guns and 2 x 2-pdr pompom
.B Displacement (full load): 1,821 tons
.B Thickest Armour: N/a
.P The B-class were ten destroyers, plus a flotilla leader, that were built
between 1929 and 1931. Two of the ships - Saguenay and Skeena - were constructed
for the Royal Canadian Navy.
.P Unusually for that time, the flotilla leader was built to the same size as the
other destroyers of the flotilla. This meant that she could not actually
accommodate all the staff officers her flotilla leader status required. Thought
was given to removing one of the 4.7-inch turrets to make additional space
available, but this was not carried out. As a result, the surplus personnel had
to be housed in other ships of the flotilla!
.P These destroyers were similar to the preceding A-class, but with detail
modifications. Four of the ships were lost before the end of 1940 and the
surviving ships were modified for use as destroyer escorts. This was achieved in
a variety of ways, and no two B-class were re-fitted to the same design.
.P Like all RN destroyers, the ships of the B-class were to see extensive service
and no less than five were to be lost during the war.
.P The B-class were all given names beginning with the letter B, although the
flotilla leader was named Keith, in honour of Admiral Elphinstone, later Lord
Keith, who captured Capetown, South Africa, at the end of the nineteenth century.
.P HMS Keith was completed in March 1931. At the outbreak of World War II she was
not based with her sisters at Dover within the 19th Destroyer Flotilla (DF). She
was instead part of Western Approaches Command where her role was to escort
Atlantic convoys. She remained there for just one month before transferring to
the east coast of England and duty with the 22nd DF based at Harwich.
.P From Harwich, Keith was employed in the North Sea for convoy defence alongside
the destroyers Boadicea, Greyhound, Griffin and Gipsy. Gipsy was sunk by a mine
while off Harwich that November. However, she was not the first destroyer lost to
enemy action in the Second World War. That dubious distinction went to one of
Keith's sister ships, HMS Blanche, two weeks before. While Keith was just along
the North Sea coast at Harwich, Blanche and the 19th DF: Codrington (Flotilla
Leader), Basilisk, Beagle, Blanche, Boadicea, Boreas, Brazen and Brilliant, were
operating from Dover and were heavily involved in a variety of operations. They
provided escort to convoys, including those made up of troop transports ferrying
the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) to France. They were also called upon to
escort both minelayers (that were successfully charged with making the Channel
unusable to U-boats) and minesweepers, that were constantly in action to keep the
Channel free from German laid mines.
.P The Kriegsmarine proved a formidable and audacious adversary however, and they
used their small destroyer force to sow numerous minefields. It was one of these
that sunk HMS Blanche on the 13th November. Keith was soon re-united with her
fellow B-class sisters. She had repair work carried out at the turn of the year,
before briefly returning to convoy escort work. Then, in February, she received
the order to replace Codrington as the Flotilla Leader of the 19th DF. For the
next couple of months the 19th DF continued their unsung, but vital work;
escorting convoys and protecting minelayers and minesweepers alike. The
continuous operations put great strain on their machinery and the flotilla was
never up to full strength as one or more destroyers were required to visit the
repair yard at any one time. Keith then compounded this problem by running
aground in March and requiring further attention at the dockyard.
.P By the time that she was ready to return to action, the war was just about to
get serious. On the 10th May 1940 the German army invaded the Low Countries and
France; the Phoney War was over, and the war, for the officers and men aboard HMS
Keith and hundreds of other warships and requisitioned merchant vessels, was
about to intensify to an entirely new level.
.P The forces allocated to Dover Command, under Vice-Admiral Ramsay, as well as
other nearby commands had been strengthened as soon as it became clear that a
German attack was in the offing. Plans had already been laid out to mine Dutch
and Belgian waters and ensure that none of the ports would be taken intact if
they were about to fall to the enemy.
.P On the day of the attack, Keith and Boreas provided the escort for the light
cruisers Arethusa and Galatea which sailed to the Dutch port of Ijmuiden to
rendezvous with two merchant ships that brought the Dutch gold reserves to the
United Kingdom.
.P Other warships made the journey to Holland to ensure the safe evacuation of
the Dutch Royal Family and Government officials. The hard pressed destroyers were
sailing back and forth at this time, delivering supplies, evacuating non-combat
troops and landing the shore parties that would, if required, demolish the port
facilities. While they were doing this, minesweepers were busy sweeping channels
for other Allied ships to use. Another crucial task undertaken at this time was
to ensure that as many Dutch and Belgian ships, of all types and all sizes, were
sent to the United Kingdom and not left to be captured by the invaders. Many
Dutch warships made it safely to England, including the cruiser Jacob van
Heemskerck, but there were losses too.
.P Six destroyers were lent by the RN to the French navy based at Dunkirk in view
of the latters lack of AA guns on their own destroyers. These veteran V and W-
class ships were severely mauled for their trouble; HMS Valentine was sunk,
Winchester and Westminster were badly damaged and then Whitley was beached and
had to be destroyed. A constant presence in these Channel operations at this time
was HMS Keith, and indeed it was she that was ordered to destroy Whitley with her
guns.
.P One can only imagine what it must have been like to be aboard these
un-armoured vessels, almost completely unprotected by Allied aircraft and subject
to air attack constantly. The actual evacuation operation had not even begun yet,
but the Allied ships were already heavily stretched and taking losses.
.P By the 20th May the French navy could no longer use Dunkirk harbour so
incessant were the air attacks upon the port, and they sailed for England. At
around this time, the workload for the destroyers increased yet again. The German
panzers that had poured through the weakly defended Ardennes region, had now
wheeled north and effectively cut off the BEF and their French and Belgian Allies
from the rest of the French army. The Germans had therefore been able to cut-off
the British and French supply columns. The Allied ships now had another duty to
perform; the re-supply of the surrounded Allied troops.
.P Within a few days it became clear to Churchill and senior commanders that the
position of the BEF was becoming ever more precarious and that the possibility of
wholsale evacuation would have to be considered if the entire force were not to
be lost. Vice-Admiral Ramsay in Dover was tasked with drawing up the plans for
Operation Dynamo; the evacuation of as many troops as possible from Dunkirk and
whatever ports remained open to the Allies. To this effect, the ports of Dover
and Southampton became full of passenger ships and boats of every shape and size.
.P Over the coming days, the naval losses continued to mount. Keith came under
fire whilst at Boulogne on the 23rd while dropping off reinforcements, and her
captain was killed in the attack. It was on this day, late in the afternoon, that
an order came through to evacuate Boulogne and for the demolition parties to
destroy her facilities. All the RN destroyers taking part in the evacuation were
damaged and the French ships providing covering fire offshore fared even worse.
The final embarkation from Boulogne took place the following day, while a French
rearguard stubbornly resisted until the 25th.
.P With Boulogne lost to the surrounded Allied armies, Calais became the next
target for the German panzers, and this port was lost to the Allies the following
day. HMS Keith played no part at Calais, as she required urgent repairs to the
damage taken at Boulogne. Indeed there were few RN destroyers available for the
Calais operation, and one of those, HMS Wessex, was sunk while two others were
damaged. The light cruisers Galatea and Arethusa were ordered to provide naval
gunfire support during the day.
.P The attacks on Boulogne and Calais aside, on the 24th May, the German panzer
forces west of Dunkirk had been ordered to halt their move on that port. There
are many theories given for why this order was made, with the two most likely
being: a) the need for the panzer forces to rest and refit, and b) the Luftwaffe
agreeing to finish the destruction of the Allied armies itself. Whatever the
reason, this two day halt to the main German operations gave further vital time
to the Allied forces defending the ever shrinking perimeter around Dunkirk. On
the day that Calais fell to the Germans, this halt order was rescinded and the
panzers began to roll once more. However, on the other side of the channel, an
equally important decision was being made. At just before 1900hrs on the 26th
May, the order was given by the Admiralty to Vice-Admiral Ramsay; commence
Operation Dynamo. Captain Tennant (later to command HMS Repulse) was sent to
Dunkirk as the Senior Naval Officer tasked with ensuring there was a sound plan
for the embarkation of troops.
.P For Dynamo, the RN used two evacuation routes, named Y and Z. These routes
took shipping around the vast minefields that had been previously sown. Route Z
was the shortest, most direct route from Dover to Dunkirk, but with German
artillery now occupying the French coast, the use of this route had to be stopped
during daylight. This left route Y, which was almost double the length, and took
shipping initially east from Dunkirk to a point called Kwinte Bank, off Ostend.
From there, ships headed directly west back to England. A third route, named X,
between the other two was prepared, but a path through the minefields was not
cleared until a couple of days into the operation.
.P The almost constant menace that plagued the operation came from the sky, in
the form of the fighters and bombers of the Luftwaffe. German aircraft were able
to operate almost without any interference from the Royal Air Force, whose lack
of contribution to the operation has always been a source of acrimony. The RN
used the AA cruiser Calcutta for some of the time, but her success was limited
and she was herself soon damaged and had to retire to the UK.
.P The port of Dunkirk had been well and truly put out of action by the Luftwaffe
by this time and initially troops were evacuated from the beaches alone. As a
result, on the 27th May, the first full day of Dynamo, less than 8,000 troops
were evacuated.
.P The following day, the Belgian army surrendered, putting further pressure on
the remaining British and French troops fighting to keep the Germans at bay.
However, there were also two pieces of good fortune that assisted the evacuation
process. Firstly, poor weather meant that the air attacks on shipping and troops
awaiting embarkation were limited and, just as importantly, Captain Tennant came
up with a solution to the slow embarkation problem. Although the port of Dunkirk
was out of action, there was an old breakwater, known as the east mole, that was
over 4,000 feet long and that Tennant realised, with a bit of improvisation,
could be used to embark troops.
.P Having successfully tested his theory with a passenger vessel, a constant
stream of ships was then ordered to the east mole over the coming days. While
some ships used the east mole, other continued to anchor off the beaches and
smaller craft were used to then take men from the beach to the waiting ships. The
results were dramatic. On the 28th, the evacuated numbered 18,000, on the 29th it
was 47,000. The numbers rose each day, eventually peaking at 68,000 on the 31st
May.
.P By the time the evacuation was halted on the 4th June, 338,000 men had been
evacuated since the 27th May, of which 123,000 were French. These numbers do not
include those evacuated prior to Dynamo being launched - believed to be another
30,000. 100,000 of the total number were lifted from the beaches, and it was here
that the little armada of ships came into their own; taking troops to the larger
vessels waiting offshore.
.P But in saving the BEF and a large part of the French army, the RN and their
French counterparts suffered grievous losses. The 29th May saw a further three RN
destroyers lost, although the Luftwaffe were responsible for only one of these.
In the early hours of that morning the old destroyer Wakeful, packed with troops,
was returning to England via route Y when she was attacked by the S-boat S30. One
torpedo was sufficient to cut Wakeful in two and she quickly sank, taking over
700 soldiers and sailors with her. Just a few hours later, the new destroyer HMS
Grafton, taking the same route as Wakeful, was torpedoed by the submarine U-62.
One torpedo blew away her stern and she later sank with the loss of over 50 men.
Later that day, HMS Grenade, another of the precious new destroyers, was berthed
at the east mole when she was attacked by Ju-87 Stuka dive-bombers. She was hit
by two bombs and was very soon ablaze uncontrollably and beyond help. She was
towed away from the harbour so as not to render the mole unusable and was left to
burn. In the early evening her magazines ignited and the little destroyer was
blown apart.
.P The 1st June was to cost the RN another three destroyers, including Keith,
which had Rear-Admiral Wake-Walker aboard, and her sister Basilisk. They both
fell victim to air attack while off the beaches at Bray-Dunes. 36 were killed on
board Keith and some of her survivors were transferred to the tug St. Abbs. Sadly
St Abbs took a direct hit during a subsequent air attack and a further 105 of
Keith's crew were killed. HMS Havant was the last of the RN destroyers sunk
during Dynamo.
.P Exact numbers of ships that took part in Dynamo vary from source to source,
but the following gives a guide to what the operation cost the Royal Navy and the
Marine Nationale: 848 ships of all types were involved, of which 235 were sunk
and many more damaged. The losses included 9 destroyers, 29 trawlers, 6
minesweepers, 9 ferries, 1 hospital ship and 142 private boats. The remainder was
made up of barges, tugs, landing craft and sundry other small merchant and naval
vessels. In addition, there were many more vessels damaged, of which 19 were
destroyers so vitally needed elsewhere.
.P Just as it had previously in Norway, just as it would in the near future in
Greece, Crete and Singapore, the RN made huge sacrifice in men and ships in order
to save a defeated army. The Allied armies were beaten in the French Campaign of
1940, the RN and MN most certainly were not.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/3/2011 1:04:24 AM   
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Trying to find detailed info on the French navy in WWII is proving..less than easy . I will post a few more examples of French ships than usual as they are not very detailed and someone may be able to add something of interest . First example are two "What if" CVL's. I have assumed there were actual plans to convert these cruisers to CVL's as opposed to just being out and out "what ifs" but I can find nothing to support that comment, much less any technical detail..


.P The French ordered three De Grasse-class cruisers for the Marine Nationale
(MN) prior to the outbreak of World War II. The ships - De Grasse, Guichen and
Chateaurenault - would have been improved versions of the La Galissonniere-class
of light cruiser.
.P In actual fact, only one ship, De Grasse, was actually laid down prior to September
1939, and her two sisters were cancelled once war began. Work on De Grasse was
halted during the war and she was eventually completed in 1956 to a much changed
specification.
.P The French player has the option of building all three planned De Grasse-class ships
as light cruisers, and the details for these vessels as originally designed may
be found on counter nos. 4909 (Chateaurenault), 4910 (De Grasse) and 4915
(Guichen).
.P However, World In Flames also allows the conversion of two of the ships - De Grasse
and Guichen - into small aircraft carriers. Actual plans to so convert the cruisers were
not far advanced and therefore there are no technical details available. However, the
factors allocated to these ships, and the size of the cruisers hull, assumes that the
finished product would have been of the light or escort carrier type, with limited armour
protection and a modest air group.
.P The name ship of the class would have been named in honour of François Joseph
Paul de Grasse, the French admiral that commanded the French fleet at the Battle
of Chesapeake during the American War of Independence. Guichen would also have
honoured a French admiral from the 18th century - Luc Urbain de Bouexic, comte de
Guichen.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/3/2011 4:06:51 PM   
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.P These ASW counters are only used if playing with the Convoy In Flames optional
rule. The counters do not represent any specific individual convoy or any
particular ships, but are designed to represent convoy escort groups. They have
mixed values reflecting the fact that the make-up of an escort group could differ
from one convoy to the next. Examples of escort vessels used during the Second
World War were: escort carriers, destroyers, destroyer escorts, corvettes,
sloops, trawlers etc - in other words a wide variety of ship type was used in the
defence of merchant vessels.
.P At the start of the war the Royal Navy (RN) had too few escorts to allow it to
undertake all its required duties; protecting convoys, escorting capital ships
etc. Matters were made worse by heavy losses incurred off Norway and the Low
Countries, but gradually, the problem was resolved. A large shipbuilding program
was begun, almost from scratch, in Canada, while in the United Kingdom, priority
was given to the construction of specialised escort vessels. The Lend-Lease bill
passed in the United States further assisted the cause. As the war progressed,
the escorts available to the navies of the Commonwealth not only grew in number,
but also in effectiveness - in particular their anti-aircraft (AA) and anti-
submarine (ASW) capability.
.P There were two main threats to ocean-going convoys: Surface raiders and
U-boats, while closer to shore, aircraft and mines were a particular menace.
Unfortunately for the Kriegsmarine, the surface raiders record against Allied
convoys was ultimately to prove a disappointment. In contrast to its U-boat arm,
neither its warships nor its assortment of auxiliary cruisers came anywhere near
causing the level of destruction they had hoped for.
.P Unrestricted submarine warfare by the Germans in the First World War brought
the United Kingdom to the brink of defeat. The UK survived thanks largely to the
introduction of the convoy system, which provided the previously unguarded and
mostly unarmed merchant vessels with warship protection.
.P At the outbreak of World War II convoys were re-introduced as quickly as
possible, but there had been a lack of investment in time and resources devoted
to the subject of convoy defence during the inter-war years. This not only led to
the shortage of specialist escort vessels, but those the RN did have were fitted
with only rudimentary AA and ASW equipment.
.P Fortunately for the British, the Kriegsmarine were equally, if not more
unprepared, and actually started the war with only fifty-seven U-boats. Of
these, just twenty-six were capable of Atlantic operations. The Germans moved
quickly to rectify this deficiency via a large scale U-boat build program, and
great success was achieved in the first half of the Second World War. This led
Winston Churchill to later admit that the only thing that frightened him in World
War II was the U-boat threat. For a time the U-boats were sinking more merchant
ships than could be replaced, but in the end, the greater resources open to the
Allies; more ships and better technology, ground the U-boat menace into oblivion.
.P During the Second World War, the potency of aircraft as ship killers became
evident. Most convoy routes came under threat from air attack at some point
along their length. To reach out into the Atlantic and Arctic, the Germans
employed their long range Focke-Wulf FW200 Condor aircraft that had a range of
2,212 miles (3,560km) and a 14-hour endurance. For more confined waters like the
North Sea, the English Channel and the Mediterranean, the Axis forces were able
to employ their shorter range aircraft in the ship killer role. Ultimately, a
combination of escort carriers and stronger AA capability on board the escorts
managed to neutralise this threat too. Mines were to prove a potent weapon too,
and the Germans were very active in sowing minefields throughout the war.
Clearing paths through these obstacles was a vital role and the minesweepers of
the RN saved many a ship with their unsung work.
.P Of all the Allied convoy routes, the Atlantic was the most important. The
Battle of the Atlantic was to be the longest battle in World War II. Had the
Allies lost, the United Kingdom could have been literally starved into defeat. It
is worth remembering here that the men of the Merchant Navy suffered a higher
percentage of losses compared to the British Army, RN or Royal Air Force in World
War II, and these losses were mostly incurred in bringing food and supplies to
the Britain.
.P In addition, the movement of troops from the United States and the far flung
colonies and dominions of the Commonwealth to the frontline; France, India, North
Africa etc would have been much more hazardous if the Axis had control of the
sea lanes. That this did not happen is down to the bravery and sacrifice of those
that fought the enemy in all major sea areas of the world. These write-ups tell
some of those stories.
.P Note, the date on the back of these ASW and ASW Carrier counters do not relate
in any meaningful way to actual build dates for the ships that took undertook the
convoy escort role during World War II. The counter date should therefore be
ignored. In addition, the counter mix is unbalanced in terms of origin of the
escorts and those with an aircraft component. As a result there will be a degree
of RN ship write-ups on Canadian counters and carrier units being used to
describe non-Carrier counters. Finally, because these smaller ships do not have
their own counter, some of the more important non-convoy related episodes of the
war that involved these ship types, are also told within some of these write-ups.
.P These counters give information on the main types of convoy escort that were
available to the RN and the dominion navies. This write-up looks at the B-class
destroyers - specifically, the flotilla leader, HMS Keith, and the most famous of
all evacuation operations, Dynamo.
.P One of the most keenly contested stretches of water during the Second World
War was the English Channel. There was the "Channel Dash" by three heavy units of
the Kriegsmarine in 1942 (see HMS Victorious); Neptune - the naval operation that
supported the Normandy landings in 1944 (see HMS Ramillies); and of course the
evacuation of Allied troops from Dunkirk in May and June 1940 (see this write-
up).
.P For the Royal Navy in World War II the Channel, which since 1066 had been the
impenetrable barrier that kept the United Kingdom safe from its continental foes,
would prove to be the scene of both triumph and tragedy. The events of May and
June 1940 provided both in equal measure.
.B
.B Name: HMS Keith
.B Engine(s) Output: 34,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 35 knots
.B Main Armament: 4 x 4.7-inch (119mm) guns and 2 x 2-pdr pompom
.B Displacement (full load): 1,821 tons
.B Thickest Armour: N/a
.P The B-class were ten destroyers, plus a flotilla leader, that were built
between 1929 and 1931. Two of the ships - Saguenay and Skeena - were constructed
for the Royal Canadian Navy.
.P Unusually for that time, the flotilla leader was built to the same size as the
other destroyers of the flotilla. This meant that she could not actually
accommodate all the staff officers her flotilla leader status required. Thought
was given to removing one of the 4.7-inch turrets to make additional space
available, but this was not carried out. As a result, the surplus personnel had
to be housed in other ships of the flotilla!
.P These destroyers were similar to the preceding A-class, but with detail
modifications. Four of the ships were lost before the end of 1940 and the
surviving ships were modified for use as destroyer escorts. This was achieved in
a variety of ways, and no two B-class were re-fitted to the same design.
.P Like all RN destroyers, the ships of the B-class were to see extensive service
and no less than five were to be lost during the war.
.P The B-class were all given names beginning with the letter B, although the
flotilla leader was named Keith, in honour of Admiral Elphinstone, later Lord
Keith, who captured Capetown, South Africa, at the end of the nineteenth century.
.P HMS Keith was completed in March 1931. At the outbreak of World War II she was
not based with her sisters at Dover within the 19th Destroyer Flotilla (DF). She
was instead part of Western Approaches Command where her role was to escort
Atlantic convoys. She remained there for just one month before transferring to
the east coast of England and duty with the 22nd DF based at Harwich.
.P From Harwich, Keith was employed in the North Sea for convoy defence alongside
the destroyers Boadicea, Greyhound, Griffin and Gipsy. Gipsy sank after striking a mine
while off Harwich that November.
However, she was not the first destroyer lost to
enemy action in the Second World War. That dubious distinction went to one of
Keith's sister ships, HMS Blanche, two weeks before. While Keith was just along
the North Sea coast at Harwich, Blanche and the 19th DF: Codrington (Flotilla
Leader), Basilisk, Beagle, Blanche, Boadicea, Boreas, Brazen and Brilliant, were
operating from Dover and were heavily involved in a variety of operations. They
provided escort to convoys, including those made up of troop transports ferrying
the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) to France. They were also called upon to
escort both minelayers (that were successfully charged with making the Channel
unusable to U-boats) and minesweepers that were constantly in action to keep the
Channel free from German laid mines.
.P The Kriegsmarine proved a formidable and audacious adversary however, and they
used their small destroyer force to sow numerous minefields. It was one of these
that sunk HMS Blanche on the 13th November. Keith was soon re-united with her
fellow B-class sisters. She had repair work carried out at the turn of the year,
before briefly returning to convoy escort work. Then, in February, she received
the order to replace Codrington as the Flotilla Leader of the 19th DF. For the
next couple of months the 19th DF continued their unsung, but vital work;
escorting convoys and protecting minelayers and minesweepers alike. The
continuous operations put great strain on their machinery and the flotilla was
never up to full strength as one or more destroyers were required to visit the
repair yard at any one time. Keith then compounded this problem by running
aground in March and requiring further attention at the dockyard.
.P By the time that she was ready to return to action, the war was just about to
get serious. On the 10th May 1940 the German army invaded the Low Countries and
France; the Phoney War was over, and the war, for the officers and men aboard HMS
Keith and hundreds of other warships and requisitioned merchant vessels, was
about to intensify to an entirely new level.
.P The forces allocated to Dover Command, under Vice-Admiral Ramsay, as well as
other nearby commands had been strengthened as soon as it became clear that a
German attack was in the offing. Plans had already been laid out to mine Dutch
and Belgian waters and ensure that none of the ports would be taken intact if
they were about to fall to the enemy.
.P On the day of the attack, Keith and Boreas provided the escort for the light
cruisers Arethusa and Galatea which sailed to the Dutch port of Ijmuiden to
rendezvous with two merchant ships that brought the Dutch gold reserves to the
United Kingdom.
.P Other warships made the journey to Holland to ensure the safe evacuation of
the Dutch Royal Family and Government officials. The hard-pressed destroyers were
sailing back and forth at this time, delivering supplies, evacuating non-combat
troops and landing the shore parties that would, if required, demolish the port
facilities. While they were doing this, minesweepers were busy sweeping channels
for other Allied ships to use. Another crucial task undertaken at this time was
to ensure that as many Dutch and Belgian ships, of all types and all sizes, were
sent to the United Kingdom and not left to be captured by the invaders. Many
Dutch warships made it safely to England, including the cruiser Jacob van
Heemskerck, but there were losses too.
.P Six destroyers were lent by the RN to the French navy based at Dunkirk in view
of the latters lack of AA guns on their own destroyers. These veteran V and W-
class ships were severely mauled for their trouble; HMS Valentine was sunk,
Winchester and Westminster were badly damaged and then Whitley had to be beached and
destroyed.
A constant presence in these Channel operations at this time
was HMS Keith, and indeed it was she that was ordered to destroy Whitley with her
guns.
.P One can only imagine what it must have been like to be aboard these
un-armoured vessels, almost completely unprotected by Allied aircraft and subject
to air attack constantly. The actual evacuation operation had not even begun yet,
but the Allied ships were already heavily stretched and taking losses.
.P By the 20th May the French navy could no longer use Dunkirk harbour so
incessant were the air attacks upon the port, and they sailed for England. At
around this time, the workload for the destroyers increased yet again. The German
panzers that had poured through the weakly defended Ardennes region, had now
wheeled north and effectively cut off the BEF and their French and Belgian Allies
from the rest of the French army. The Germans had therefore been able to cut-off
the British and French supply columns. The Allied ships now had another duty to
perform; the re-supply of the surrounded Allied troops.
.P Within a few days it became clear to Churchill and senior commanders that the
position of the BEF was becoming ever more precarious and that the possibility of
wholsale evacuation would have to be considered if the entire force were not to
be lost. Vice-Admiral Ramsay in Dover was tasked with drawing up the plans for
Operation Dynamo; the evacuation of as many troops as possible from Dunkirk and
whatever ports remained open to the Allies. To this effect, the ports of Dover
and Southampton became full of passenger ships and boats of every shape and size.
.P Over the coming days, the naval losses continued to mount. Keith came under
fire whilst at Boulogne on the 23rd while dropping off reinforcements, and her
captain was killed in the attack. It was on this day, late in the afternoon, that
an order came through to evacuate Boulogne and for the demolition parties to
destroy her facilities. All the RN destroyers taking part in the evacuation were
damaged and the French ships providing covering fire offshore fared even worse.
The final embarkation from Boulogne took place the following day, while a French
rearguard stubbornly resisted until the 25th.
.P With Boulogne lost to the surrounded Allied armies, Calais became the next
target for the German panzers, and this port was lost to the Allies the following
day. HMS Keith played no part at Calais, as she required urgent repairs to the
damage taken at Boulogne. Indeed there were few RN destroyers available for the
Calais operation, and one of those, HMS Wessex, was sunk while two others were
damaged. The light cruisers Galatea and Arethusa were ordered to provide naval
gunfire support during the day.
.P The attacks on Boulogne and Calais aside, on the 24th May, the German panzer
forces west of Dunkirk had been ordered to halt their move on that port. There
are many theories given for why this order was made, with the two most likely
being: a) the need for the panzer forces to rest and refit, and b) the Luftwaffe
agreeing to finish the destruction of the Allied armies itself. Whatever the
reason, this two day halt to the main German operations gave further vital time
to the Allied forces defending the ever shrinking perimeter around Dunkirk. On
the day that Calais fell to the Germans, this halt order was rescinded and the
panzers began to roll once more. However, on the other side of the channel, an
equally important decision was being made. At just before 1900hrs on the 26th
May, the order was given by the Admiralty to Vice-Admiral Ramsay; commence
Operation Dynamo. Captain Tennant (later to command HMS Repulse) was sent to
Dunkirk, as the Senior Naval Officer tasked with ensuring there was a sound plan
for the embarkation of troops.
.P For Dynamo, the RN used two evacuation routes, named Y and Z. These routes
took shipping around the vast minefields that had been previously sown. Route Z
was the shortest, most direct route from Dover to Dunkirk, but with German
artillery now occupying the French coast, the use of this route had to be stopped
during daylight. This left route Y, which was almost double the length, and took
shipping initially east from Dunkirk to a point called Kwinte Bank, off Ostend.
From there, ships headed directly west back to England. A third route, named X,
between the other two was prepared, but a path through the minefields was not
cleared until a couple of days into the operation.
.P The almost constant menace that plagued the operation came from the sky, in
the form of the fighters and bombers of the Luftwaffe. German aircraft were able
to operate almost without any interference from the Royal Air Force, whose lack
of contribution to the operation has always been a source of acrimony. The RN
used the AA cruiser Calcutta for some of the time, but her success was limited
and she was herself soon damaged and had to retire to the UK.
.P The port of Dunkirk had been well and truly put out of action by the Luftwaffe
by this time and initially troops were evacuated from the beaches alone. As a
result, on the 27th May, the first full day of Dynamo, less than 8,000 troops
were evacuated.
.P The following day, the Belgian army surrendered, putting further pressure on
the remaining British and French troops fighting to keep the Germans at bay.
However, there were also two pieces of good fortune that assisted the evacuation
process. Firstly, poor weather meant that the air attacks on shipping and troops
awaiting embarkation were limited and, just as importantly, Captain Tennant came
up with a solution to the slow embarkation problem. Although the port of Dunkirk
was out of action, there was an old breakwater, known as the east mole, that was
over 4,000 feet long and that Tennant realised, with a bit of improvisation,
could be used to embark troops.
.P Having successfully tested his theory with a passenger vessel, a constant
stream of ships was then ordered to the east mole over the coming days. While
some ships used the east mole, other continued to anchor off the beaches and
smaller craft were used to then take men from the beach to the waiting ships. The
results were dramatic. On the 28th, the evacuated numbered 18,000 on the 29th it
was 47,000. The numbers rose each day, eventually peaking at 68,000 on the 31st
May.
.P By the time the evacuation was halted on the 4th June, 338,000 men had been
evacuated since the 27th May, of which 123,000 were French. These numbers do not
include those evacuated prior to Dynamo being launched - believed to be another
30,000. 100,000 of the total number were lifted from the beaches, and it was here
that the little armada of ships came into their own; taking troops to the larger
vessels waiting offshore.
.P But in saving the BEF and a large part of the French army, the RN and their
French counterparts suffered grievous losses. The 29th May saw a further three RN
destroyers lost, although the Luftwaffe were responsible for only one of these.
In the early hours of that morning the old destroyer Wakeful, packed with troops,
was returning to England via route Y when the S-boat S30 attacked her. One
torpedo was sufficient to cut Wakeful in two and she quickly sank, taking over
700 soldiers and sailors with her. Just a few hours later, the new destroyer HMS
Grafton, taking the same route as Wakeful, was torpedoed by the submarine U-62.
One torpedo blew away her stern and she later sank with the loss of over 50 men.
Later that day, HMS Grenade, another of the precious new destroyers, was berthed
at the east mole when Ju-87 Stuka dive-bombers attacked her. She was hit
by two bombs and was very soon ablaze uncontrollably and beyond help. She was
towed away from the harbour so as not to render the mole unusable and was left to
burn. In the early evening her magazines ignited and the little destroyer was
blown apart.
.P The 1st June was to cost the RN another three destroyers, including Keith,
which had Rear-Admiral Wake-Walker aboard, and her sister Basilisk. They both
fell victim to air attack while off the beaches at Bray-Dunes. 36 were killed on
board Keith and some of her survivors were transferred to the tug St. Abbs. Sadly
St Abbs took a direct hit during a subsequent air attack and a further 105 of
Keith's crew were killed. HMS Havant was the last of the RN destroyers sunk
during Dynamo.
.P Exact numbers of ships that took part in Dynamo vary from source to source,
but the following gives a guide to what the operation cost the Royal Navy and the
Marine Nationale: 848 ships of all types were involved, of which 235 were sunk
and many more damaged. The losses included 9 destroyers, 29 trawlers, 6
minesweepers, 9 ferries, 1 hospital ship and 142 private boats. The remainder was
made up of barges, tugs, landing craft and sundry other small merchant and naval
vessels. In addition, there were many more vessels damaged, of which 19 were
destroyers so vitally needed elsewhere.
.P Just as it had previously in Norway, just as it would in the near future in
Greece, Crete and Singapore, the RN made huge sacrifice in men and ships in order
to save a defeated army. The Allied armies were beaten in the French Campaign of
1940, the RN and MN most certainly were not.



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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/3/2011 6:24:50 PM   
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Rob,

Nice writeup on Dunkirk.

You should explain what DF is.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/4/2011 12:09:19 AM   
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Hi!

I wanted to know the status of land units write-ups, I wrote the write-ups of Persia units 1 or 2 years ago, and maybe I could help a little more.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/4/2011 3:22:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: herulf

Hi!

I wanted to know the status of land units write-ups, I wrote the write-ups of Persia units 1 or 2 years ago, and maybe I could help a little more.

They are roughly 60% done.

I heard from Adam a few weeks ago. He said pretty much the same thing you just did so I sent him the most recent info on the land units writeups.

Send me (SHokanson@HawaiianTel.net) an email and I'lll send you what I sent him.

Thanks for offering to help.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/4/2011 11:08:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Rob,

Nice writeup on Dunkirk.

You should explain what DF is.

Warspite1

Thanks Steve - I have amended to include a brief description and adopted some of the changes Extraneous has suggested too...now back to my bête noir - the French Navy

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.P The French ordered three De Grasse-class cruisers for the Marine Nationale
(MN) prior to the outbreak of World War II. The ships - De Grasse, Guichen and
Chateaurenault - would have been improved versions of the La Galissonniere-class
of light cruiser.
.P In actual fact, only one ship, De Grasse, was actually laid down prior to September
1939, and her two sisters were cancelled once war began. Work on De Grasse was
halted during the war and she was eventually completed in 1956 to a much-changed
specification.
.P The French player has the option of building all three planned De Grasse-class ships
as light cruisers, and the details for these vessels as originally designed may
be found on counter nos. 4909 (Chateaurenault), 4910 (De Grasse) and 4915
(Guichen).
.P However, World In Flames also allows the conversion of two of the ships - De Grasse
and Guichen - into small aircraft carriers. Actual plans to so convert the cruisers were
not far advanced and therefore there are no technical details available. However, the
factors allocated to these ships, and the size of the cruisers hull, assumes that the
finished product would have been of the light or escort carrier type, with limited armour
protection and a modest air group.
.P The name ship of the class would have been named in honour of François Joseph
Paul de Grasse, the French admiral that commanded the French fleet at the Battle
of Chesapeake during the American War of Independence. Guichen would also have
honoured a French admiral from the 18th century - Luc Urbain de Bouexic, comte de
Guichen.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/4/2011 6:54:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: herulf

Hi!

I wanted to know the status of land units write-ups, I wrote the write-ups of Persia units 1 or 2 years ago, and maybe I could help a little more.

They are roughly 60% done.

I heard from Adam a few weeks ago. He said pretty much the same thing you just did so I sent him the most recent info on the land units writeups.

Send me (SHokanson@HawaiianTel.net) an email and I'lll send you what I sent him.

Thanks for offering to help.

I was off on my counts. There are 202 remaining out of 1186, so they are 83% done.

Here is the current list of what remains. - I am looking for someone to serve as editor for the land unit writeups. Basically that task requires updating the master file with new additions from the authors: cut and paste using a text editor (NotePad works).

===

Land and Special unit write-ups still to do.

This list includes 10 Japanese Land write-ups where the write-up is only "A
what-if unit". Those are identified by a (*) at the end.

There are 16 writeups that have been received but that have not been inserted into the master file.
There are 10 other writeups that appear to be second versions. The two versions need to be compared and merged into one.

Land Units (193 still to do) :

Algeria :
3051 - Mountain .................. - Algeria - Grisouille
3052 - Militia ................... - Algiers - Grisouille

Brazil :
2135 - Infantry .................. - I Inf - ...
2136 - Cavalry ................... - Cav - ...
2137 - Militia ................... - Rio de Janeiro - ...
2138 - Motorized ................. - II Mot - ...
2139 - Mechanized ................ - III Arm - ...

Canada :
2118 - Garrison .................. - 6th Can Garr - Rob or David

Czechoslovakia :
3049 - Militia ................... - I Slovak - Birger

Eritrea :
2870 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Jimm

Germany :
2477 - Infantry .................. - IX Inf - Adam
2511 - Marine (d).................. - Mar Div - Adam
2512 - Marine .................... - Marine - Adam
2513 - Mountain (d)................ - 5th Mtn Div - Adam
2514 - Mountain .................. - Alpine - Adam
2515 - Mountain .................. - XLIX Mtn - Adam
2517 - Engineer (d)................ - 1st Eng - Adam
2518 - Motorized Engineer (d)...... - 6th Pz Eng - Adam
2548 - Motorized (d)............... - 1st Mot Div - Adam
2550 - Motorized ................. - LIII Mot - Adam
2551 - Motorized ................. - LXVI Mot - Adam
2552 - Motorized ................. - LXXVI Mot - Adam
2556 - Motorized ................. - XXIII Mot - Adam
2557 - Motorized ................. - XXVII Mot - Adam
2558 - Motorized ................. - XXX Mot - Adam
2559 - Motorized ................. - XXXVIII Mot - Adam
2560 - Motorized ................. - XXXXVI Mot - Adam
2561 - Mechanized (d).............. - 2nd Mech Div - Adam
2562 - Mechanized ................ - HG Mech - Adam
2563 - Mechanized ................ - L Mech - Adam
2564 - Mechanized ................ - LII Mech - Adam
2565 - Mechanized ................ - LVI Mech - Adam
2566 - Mechanized ................ - VIII Mech - Adam
2567 - Mechanized ................ - XL Mech - Adam
2568 - Mechanized ................ - XLVI Mech - Adam
2569 - Mechanized ................ - XVIII Mech - Adam
2570 - Mechanized ................ - XXXIX Mech - Adam
2571 - Armor (d)................... - 1st Arm Div - Adam
2573 - Armor ..................... - GD Arm - Adam
2574 - Armor (d)................... - HG Arm Div - Adam
2576 - Armor ..................... - LVII Arm - Adam
2577 - Armor ..................... - XLI Arm - Adam
2578 - Armor ..................... - XLIX Arm - Adam
2579 - Armor ..................... - XLVII Arm - Adam
2580 - Armor ..................... - XLVIII Arm - Adam
2581 - Armor ..................... - XXIV Arm - Adam
3039 - Motorized (d)............... - 4th Mot Div - Adam
3040 - Mechanized (d).............. - 7th Mech Div - Adam

India
2405 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]

Italian Somaliland :
2873 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Jimm
2874 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Jimm

Italy :
2711 - Cavalry (d)................. - 2nd Cav Div - Jimm
2712 - Cavalry ................... - Cav - Jimm
2713 - Cavalry ................... - Mizza - Jimm
2719 - Mountain .................. - Alpini Mtn - Jimm
2720 - Mountain .................. - II Mtn - Jimm
2727 - Militia ................... - Milan - Jimm
2728 - Militia ................... - Naples - Jimm
2729 - Militia ................... - Rome - Jimm
2730 - Militia ................... - Turin - Jimm
2731 - Militia ................... - Venice - Jimm
2732 - Garrison .................. - Lucca - Jimm
2733 - Garrison .................. - XIII Garr - Jimm
2734 - Garrison .................. - XV Garr - Jimm
2735 - Garrison .................. - XX Garr - Jimm
2739 - Motorized ................. - Motor - Jimm
2740 - Motorized ................. - Roma Mot - Jimm
2741 - Motorized (d)............... - Trento Div - Jimm
2742 - Mechanized ................ - Africa - Jimm
2744 - Mechanized ................ - Libia - Jimm
2745 - Mechanized ................ - Pr. Amendeo - Jimm
2746 - Mechanized ................ - Speciale - Jimm
2749 - Armor ..................... - Il Duce - Jimm
2760 - Motorized Heavy Anti-air (d) - 88 mm - Jimm
3045 - Infantry .................. - Madrid - Jimm
3046 - Militia ................... - Cairo - Jimm
3047 - Garrison .................. - Athens - Jimm
3048 - Supply (d).................. - Supply - Jimm

Japan :
2148 - Infantry (d)................ - 1st Inf Div - Adam
2178 - Engineer (d)................ - 1st Eng - Adam
2179 - Engineer (d)................ - 2nd Eng - Adam
2193 - Militia ................... - Vladivostok - Adam
2203 - Motorized (d)............... - 5th Mot Div - Adam
2205 - Mechanized (d).............. - 2nd Mech Div - Adam (*)
2206 - Mechanized ................ - 3rd Mech -Adam (*)
2207 - Mechanized ................ - 4th Mech - Adam (*)
2208 - Mechanized ................ - 5th Mech - Adam (*)
2209 - Armor (d)................... - 1st Arm Div - Adam (*)
2210 - Armor ..................... - 1st Arm - Adam (*)
2211 - Armor ..................... - 2nd Arm - Adam (*)
2212 - Armor ..................... - 6th Arm - Adam (*)
2217 - Anti-tank (d)............... - 105 mm - Adam (*)
2219 - Anti-tank (d)............... - 75 mm - Adam (*)
2220 - Anti-aircrraft .............. - 40 mm
3016 - Militia ................... - Saigon - Adam
3017 - Garrison .................. - Manila - Adam
3018 - Motorized (d)............... - 7th Mot Div - Adam
3019 - Motorized ................. - Calcutta - Adam
3020 - Mechanized (d).............. - 3rd Mech Div - Adam

Korea :
2225 - Militia ................... - Seoul - Adam
2226 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Adam

Libya :
2852 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Jimm
2853 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Jimm
2854 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Jimm

Manchuria :
2389 - Militia ................... - Harbin - Adam
2390 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Adam
2391 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Adam
2392 - Territorial ............... - Terr - Adam

Mexico :
2123 - Infantry .................. - I Inf - ...
2124 - Cavalry ................... - Gd Hs Cav - ...
2125 - Militia ................... - Mexico City - ...
2126 - Militia ................... - Vera Cruz - ...
2127 - Motorized ................. - II Mot - ...
2128 - Mechanized ................ - III Mech - ...

Panama :
2129 - Cavalry ................... - Hussars Cav - Adam
2130 - Militia ................... - Panama City - Adam

Portugal :
2675 - Infantry .................. - Gd Inf - ...
2676 - Militia ................... - Lisbon - ...
3043 - Garrison .................. - 1st Garr - ...

Senegal :
2895 - Militia ................... - Dakar - Grisouille
3055 - Motorized ................. - Dakar Mot - Grisouille

Spanish Nationalists :
2991 - Infantry .................. - Gd Inf - ...
2992 - Infantry .................. - IV Inf - ...
2993 - Infantry .................. - V inf - ...
2994 - Infantry .................. - VIII Inf - ...
2995 - Cavalry ................... - Cav - ...
2997 - Militia ................... - Cartagena - ...
2998 - Militia ................... - Seville - ...
2999 - Garrison .................. - VI Garr - ...
3000 - Garrison .................. - VII Garr - ...
3001 - Motorized ................. - III Mot - ...
3002 - Mechanized ................ - II Mech - ...
3003 - Armor ..................... - I Arm - ...

Spanish Republic :
2897 - Infantry .................. - Gd Inf - ...
2898 - Infantry .................. - IV Inf - ...
2899 - Infantry (d)................ - Red Inf Div - ...
2900 - Infantry .................. - V inf - ...
2901 - Cavalry ................... - Cav - ...
2903 - Militia ................... - Barcelona - ...
2904 - Militia ................... - Bilbao - ...
2905 - Militia ................... - Madrid - ...
2906 - Garrison .................. - VI Garr - ...
2907 - Garrison .................. - VII Garr - ...
2908 - Motorized ................. - III Mot - ...
2909 - Mechanized ................ - II Mech - ...
2910 - Armor ..................... - I Arm - ...

Turkey :
2834 - Infantry (d)................ - 1st Inf Div - Birger
2835 - Infantry .................. - Gd Inf - Birger
2836 - Infantry .................. - III Inf - Birger
2837 - Infantry .................. - IV Inf - Birger
2838 - Cavalry ................... - Cav - Birger
2839 - Mountain .................. - Alp Mtn - Birger
2841 - Militia ................... - Ankara - Birger
2842 - Militia ................... - Istanbul - Birger
2843 - Garrison .................. - V Garr - Birger
2844 - Garrison .................. - VI Garr - Birger
2845 - Motorized ................. - II Mot - Birger
2846 - Mechanized ................ - I Mech - Birger

Ukraine :
2379 - Infantry .................. - I Inf - Adam
2380 - Infantry .................. - II Inf - Adam
2381 - Cavalry ................... - Cav - Adam
2383 - Militia ................... - Kiev - Adam
2384 - Garrison .................. - IV Garr - Adam
2385 - Motorized ................. - III Mot - Adam
2386 - Mechanized ................ - Gd Mech - Adam

United Kingdom :
2415 - Infantry .................. - III Inf - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2416 - Infantry .................. - V Inf - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2425 - Motorized Engineer (d)...... - Royal Eng - Adam
2426 - Marine Engineer (d)......... - Mar Eng - Adam
2431 - Militia ................... - Glasgow - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2432 - Militia ................... - London - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2433 - Militia ................... - Manchester - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2434 - Garrison .................. - XL Garr - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2435 - Garrison .................. - XLV Garr - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2436 - Motorized (d)............... - 50th Mot Div - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2438 - Motorized ................. - XI Mot - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2439 - Motorized ................. - XIII Mot - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2440 - Motorized ................. - XIV Mot - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2441 - Motorized ................. - XX Mot - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2442 - Mechanized (d).............. - 7th Mech Div - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2450 - Armor ..................... - VI Arm - Rob or David
2454 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2455 - Motorized Artillery (d)..... - 4.5 inch - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2456 - Motorized Artillery (d)..... - 5.5 inch - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2457 - Motorized Artillery (d)..... - 7.2 inch - [needs to be inserted into master file]
2458 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2459 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2460 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2461 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2462 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2463 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2464 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
2465 - [second version needs to be merged with first?]
3035 - Militia ................... - Oslo - Rob or David
3036 - Garrison .................. - Athens - Rob or David

United States :
2040 - Motorized Engineer (d)...... - 1st Mot Eng - Adam
2041 - Motorized Engineer (d)...... - 2nd Mot Eng - Adam
2042 - Marine Engineer (d)......... - CBs Eng - Adam
2109 - Motorized Heavy Anti-air (d) - 128 mm - Christopher Rice
3010 - Militia ................... - Saigon - Christopher Rice
3011 - Garrison .................. - Naples - Christopher Rice
3012 - Motorized (d)............... - 5th Mot Div - Christopher Rice
3013 - Motorized ................. - Rome Mot - Christopher Rice
3014 - Armor (d)................... - 7th Arm Div - Christopher Rice
3072 - Supply (d).................. - Supply - Christopher Rice

USSR :
2331 - Motorized ................. - 6th Mot - Adam
2347 - Armor ..................... - 2nd Arm - Adam
3023 - Infantry (d)................ - 4th BG Div - Adam
3024 - Infantry .................. - 8th Banner - Adam
3025 - Infantry .................. - 9th Banner - Adam
3026 - Infantry .................. - Bucharest - Adam
3027 - Paratroop ................. - Para Banner - Adam
3028 - Mountain .................. - Mtn Banner - Adam
3029 - Militia ................... - Sofia - Adam
3030 - Motorized (d)............... - 3rd Mot Div - Adam
3031 - Motorized (d)............... - 3rd GB Div - Adam
3032 - Mechanized (d).............. - 13th Mech Div - Adam
3033 - Mechanized (d).............. - 2nd GB Div - Adam
3034 - Armor (d)................... - 1st GB Div - Adam

* Special units (Synth Oil) (9 still to do) :

Commonwealth..... : 6014 - Kuwait - .
Italy............ : 6011 - Jimm
Japan............ : 6002 - Adam/Shane
Japan............ : 6003 - Adam/Shane
Nationalist China : 6012 - .
United Kingdom... : 6005 - .
United Kingdom... : 6006 - .
United States.... : 6001 - Christopher Rice
USSR............. : 6004 - .



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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/5/2011 5:00:29 AM   
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Maréchal, in french, définitely needs an accent.


I'm sure he had a thick French accent; much like Chief Inspector Clouseau

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/5/2011 9:14:33 AM   
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The French..............AAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

Does anyone know why only one ship of the Algérie-class was built? According to many sources, she was amongst the finest of the treaty cruisers - but there was only one of her.... She was built in response to the Italian Zaras, but as the Regia Marina (the biggest threat to the MN) laid down four of those, why did the French only build one?

Was this purely budgetary constraint? I cannot see that the decision had anything to do with any naval treaty in place but cannot confirm that either. Any help would be gratefully received

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/5/2011 5:33:26 PM   
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The French..............AAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

Does anyone know why only one ship of the Algérie-class was built? According to many sources, she was amongst the finest of the treaty cruisers - but there was only one of her.... She was built in response to the Italian Zaras, but as the Regia Marina (the biggest threat to the MN) laid down four of those, why did the French only build one?

Was this purely budgetary constraint? I cannot see that the decision had anything to do with any naval treaty in place but cannot confirm that either. Any help would be gratefully received


Algérie was the last heavy crusier the French built.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/5/2011 5:52:35 PM   
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Yes I know, the question was why?


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/7/2011 6:18:33 PM   
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Washington Naval Treaty

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/7/2011 7:13:15 PM   
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Washington Naval Treaty

Warspite1

Yes, I've seen this thanks. As far as I can tell, the Washington treaty just dealt with capital ships (and that anything over 10,000 tons was a capital ship - hence treaty cruisers coming into being).

I believe restrictions on cruisers came into force in with the First London Naval Treaty, but neither France nor Italy signed up to this.

I guess this leaves the likely option that France simply could not afford to build additional cruisers to take on Italy's Zaras...??

But of course it may have been a conscious decision - like the UK in 1930 - to simply cease building 8-inchers.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/19/2011 3:04:18 PM   
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A couple of examples of recent efforts.

[2477] [IX Inf]
.T the IX Armeekorps was formed in October 1934.
.P On October 1, 1938 the German IX Armeekorps, Twelfth Army crossed the Czechoslovakian border into Sudetenland, per the Munich Agreement, occupying positions abandoned by the Czech Frontier Guards. On the night of March 15/16, 1939 the Germans advanced into Bohemia taking the city of Prague and then on into Moravia thus ending the existence of prewar Czechoslovakia. During the invasion of Poland the IX Armeekorps was one of the few German units not involved in the invasion. It was holding defensive positions in the Palatinate.
.P In the early hours of May 10, 1940 Army Group B surged into Belgium and the Netherlands. The Sixth Army, of which the IX Korps was part of, easily crossed the Albert canal at Eben Emael thanks to the paratroopers who had cleared the way. The thirty divisions of Army Group B were a feint. Their goal was to convince the Allies that the German invasion was coming through the Low Countries. A task easily accomplished as this is what the Allied high command already believed would be the case. Exactly as planned Army Group B’s attack pulled the French and British armies forward into Belgium and the Netherlands leaving the way open for the panzers of Army Group A to wreak havoc behind them. By April 21 the Allies were trapped in the ever shrinking pocket of Dunkirk with the Sixth Army applying pressure from the direction of Lille and Ypres.
.P The IX Armeekorps was assigned to Army Group Center’s Fourth Army for the invasion of Russia. The Fourth Army crossed the border north of Brest-Litovsk. As the panzers pushed deeper into Russia the infantry of the Fourth Army advanced to form the western edges of the Minsk, Smolensk and the Vyazma pockets. The IX Armeekorps led the initial attack in creating the Vyazma pocket and was involved in heavy fighting reducing it. The Fourth Army was aimed straight at Moscow for Operation Typhoon but its commander, von Kluge, deliberately delayed in starting his part of the attack, much to the consternation of his superiors. Ironically, this put the Fourth Army in the position of being the most capable command of meeting the Soviet Winter Offensive. The Fourth Army withdrew to the base of the Rzhev Salient where it spent all of 1942 holding the corridor open.
.P The Russian Summer Offensive of 1943 was launched as a massed counterattack after the Battle of Kursk. The Fourth Army fought off a succession of Russian assaults but was forced slowly westward towards Smolensk due to sheer numbers. By the end of October Smolensk was lost to Germans. The IX Armeekorps was transferred to the Third Panzer Army with the IX Korps defending ground between Nevel and Vitebsk.
.P On June 22, 1944 the Soviets launched their Operation Bagration. The IX Korps was quickly overwhelmed and sent fleeing. Rallying itself the IX Armeekorps tried to stem the flood of Soviet forces crossing the River Dvina two days later but was ineffectual. The Third Panzer Army was in full retreat. On July 31 the Soviet Fifth Army inflicted heavy casualties on the IX Korps, over 40,000 men, when the Armeekorps was trying to defend Kaunas, Lithuania.
.P The remnants of the IX Korps retreated into East Prussia and were trapped along the coast with other units. Army Detachment Samland, as this grouping was named, finally surrendered On May 9, 1945.


[2552] [LXXVI]
.T The LXXVI Infantry Corps was formed in France from a cadre of the LXVI Reserve Corps in June 1943. The infantry corps was quickly reclassified as the LXXVI Panzer Corps in July, 1943 and sent to Italy in the following days.
.P The LXXVI Korps was in command against the Salerno landings. On September 9, 1943 the British X Corps and American VI Corps pushed their way ashore. The LXXVI Panzer Korps caused the allies enough trouble that the landing was in danger of being pushed back into the sea. The allies used their superiority in naval and air bombardment power to maintain their foothold. LXXVI Panzer Korps kept the allies bottled up on the beach long enough for Field Marshal Kesselring to assemble his defenses along the Volturno River. The Winter Line campaign began with the Germans slowly withdrawing to stronger and stronger defensive positions in the Gustav Line. Kesselring had stalled the Allied advance. In response to the Allied landing at Anzio, which threatened to unhinge the Gustav Line, the LXXVI Panzer Korps was rushed to the beachhead to bottle up the Allies. It wasn’t until June 1944 before the Allies entered Rome and had managed to crack the Gustav Line. The LXXVI Panzer Korps, along with the entire German Tenth and Fourteenth Armies withdrew to the Gothic Line south of the Po Valley. The LXXVI Panzer Korps was in the neighborhood of Florence. Although pushed out of their main positions the Germans fought the Allies to a standstill for the winter south of Bologna. Denied permission to withdraw the LXXVI Panzer Korps was forced to surrender in April 1945 near Bologna.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/19/2011 3:41:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mldtchdog

A couple of examples of recent efforts.

[2477] [IX Inf]
.T the IX Armeekorps was formed in October 1934.
.P On October 1, 1938 the German IX Armeekorps, Twelfth Army crossed the Czechoslovakian border into Sudetenland, per the Munich Agreement, occupying positions abandoned by the Czech Frontier Guards. On the night of March 15/16, 1939 the Germans advanced into Bohemia taking the city of Prague and then on into Moravia thus ending the existence of prewar Czechoslovakia. During the invasion of Poland the IX Armeekorps was one of the few German units not involved in the invasion. It was holding defensive positions in the Palatinate.
.P In the early hours of May 10, 1940 Army Group B surged into Belgium and the Netherlands. The Sixth Army, of which the IX Korps was part of, easily crossed the Albert canal at Eben Emael thanks to the paratroopers who had cleared the way. The thirty divisions of Army Group B were a feint. Their goal was to convince the Allies that the German invasion was coming through the Low Countries. A task easily accomplished as this is what the Allied high command already believed would be the case. Exactly as planned Army Group B’s attack pulled the French and British armies forward into Belgium and the Netherlands leaving the way open for the panzers of Army Group A to wreak havoc behind them. By April 21 the Allies were trapped in the ever shrinking pocket of Dunkirk with the Sixth Army applying pressure from the direction of Lille and Ypres.
.P The IX Armeekorps was assigned to Army Group Center’s Fourth Army for the invasion of Russia. The Fourth Army crossed the border north of Brest-Litovsk. As the panzers pushed deeper into Russia the infantry of the Fourth Army advanced to form the western edges of the Minsk, Smolensk and the Vyazma pockets. The IX Armeekorps led the initial attack in creating the Vyazma pocket and was involved in heavy fighting reducing it. The Fourth Army was aimed straight at Moscow for Operation Typhoon but its commander, von Kluge, deliberately delayed in starting his part of the attack, much to the consternation of his superiors. Ironically, this put the Fourth Army in the position of being the most capable command of meeting the Soviet Winter Offensive. The Fourth Army withdrew to the base of the Rzhev Salient where it spent all of 1942 holding the corridor open.
.P The Russian Summer Offensive of 1943 was launched as a massed counterattack after the Battle of Kursk. The Fourth Army fought off a succession of Russian assaults but was forced slowly westward towards Smolensk due to sheer numbers. By the end of October Smolensk was lost to Germans. The IX Armeekorps was transferred to the Third Panzer Army with the IX Korps defending ground between Nevel and Vitebsk.
.P On June 22, 1944 the Soviets launched their Operation Bagration. The IX Korps was quickly overwhelmed and sent fleeing. Rallying itself the IX Armeekorps tried to stem the flood of Soviet forces crossing the River Dvina two days later but was ineffectual. The Third Panzer Army was in full retreat. On July 31 the Soviet Fifth Army inflicted heavy casualties on the IX Korps, over 40,000 men, when the Armeekorps was trying to defend Kaunas, Lithuania.
.P The remnants of the IX Korps retreated into East Prussia and were trapped along the coast with other units. Army Detachment Samland, as this grouping was named, finally surrendered On May 9, 1945.


[2552] [LXXVI]
.T The LXXVI Infantry Corps was formed in France from a cadre of the LXVI Reserve Corps in June 1943. The infantry corps was quickly reclassified as the LXXVI Panzer Corps in July, 1943 and sent to Italy in the following days.
.P The LXXVI Korps was in command against the Salerno landings. On September 9, 1943 the British X Corps and American VI Corps pushed their way ashore. The LXXVI Panzer Korps caused the allies enough trouble that the landing was in danger of being pushed back into the sea. The allies used their superiority in naval and air bombardment power to maintain their foothold. LXXVI Panzer Korps kept the allies bottled up on the beach long enough for Field Marshal Kesselring to assemble his defenses along the Volturno River. The Winter Line campaign began with the Germans slowly withdrawing to stronger and stronger defensive positions in the Gustav Line. Kesselring had stalled the Allied advance. In response to the Allied landing at Anzio, which threatened to unhinge the Gustav Line, the LXXVI Panzer Korps was rushed to the beachhead to bottle up the Allies. It wasn’t until June 1944 before the Allies entered Rome and had managed to crack the Gustav Line. The LXXVI Panzer Korps, along with the entire German Tenth and Fourteenth Armies withdrew to the Gothic Line south of the Po Valley. The LXXVI Panzer Korps was in the neighborhood of Florence. Although pushed out of their main positions the Germans fought the Allies to a standstill for the winter south of Bologna. Denied permission to withdraw the LXXVI Panzer Korps was forced to surrender in April 1945 near Bologna.

Warspite1

Nice work midtchdog. Are you okay if I make some suggestions to try and tidy-up the English a little? Like Extraneous with the naval units, I will make no comment on your research.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/19/2011 5:05:49 PM   
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Feel free to make any suggestions.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 2/19/2011 7:01:15 PM   
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Feel free to make any suggestions.


Very nice.

There is a line inthe first writeup "of which ... were part of." The second 'of' can be omitted.

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