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Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 11:43:02 AM

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.. executing two of my FieldMarschalls

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 11:44:55 AM

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Hi all,

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.. executing two of my FieldMarschalls

What WitE version are you running?

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 12:10:13 PM

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v1.01 still playing my first campaign vs AI on challenging - turn 36 - 19.2 1942.

During blizzard so far AGN pushed 14 hexes back in general.
AGC less, average 8 at worst 15 hexes in one place.
1,2 million germans casualites since december 41.

So I guess there's a good reason to execute them! LOL

Victory/loss ratio is
List - 543/231
von Leeb - 441/234

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 12:41:39 PM

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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: color

v1.01 still playing my first campaign vs AI on challenging - turn 36 - 19.2 1942.

During blizzard so far AGN pushed 14 hexes back in general.
AGC less, average 8 at worst 15 hexes in one place.
1,2 million germans casualites since december 41.

So I guess there's a good reason to execute them! LOL

Victory/loss ratio is
List - 543/231
von Leeb - 441/234

This was fixed in later patches... that's why I asked...

BTW, there is no fear of going to new EXE (i.e. using new patches) - the data patches will not be used anyway since you have old game going on but the game engine changes are most welcome so there is no need not to use latest patches!

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 12:45:51 PM

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What's the difference between "dismissed" and "executed" in game terms? Are dismissed generals back in the pool?

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 1:11:15 PM

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BTW, there is no fear of going to new EXE (i.e. using new patches) - the data patches will not be used anyway since you have old game going on but the game engine changes are most welcome so there is no need not to use latest patches!

Leo "Apollo11"

Yeah, I did not realize I was playing on 1.01, Thought the game updated itself.
An upgrade seems like a good idea yes :)

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 2:22:36 PM

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What's the difference between "dismissed" and "executed" in game terms? Are dismissed generals back in the pool?

Good question... I must check it...

Although the "Dismissed" should be available later (the "Executed" are gone forever)...

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 3:29:46 PM

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What's the difference between "dismissed" and "executed" in game terms? Are dismissed generals back in the pool?

Dismissed are back in the pool and can be reassigned.

Dead is gone, unless they are zombie generals. Zombie generals can only command units that were destroyed and then rebuilt.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 3:32:49 PM

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Dead is gone, unless they are zombie generals. Zombie generals can only command units that were destroyed and then rebuilt.

Yep! And zombie units can only move one hex, but will inspire fear in enemy units, lowering their morale by 20%.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 3:34:31 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tarhunnas

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ORIGINAL: Franklin Nimitz

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ORIGINAL: Paul Roberts

What's the difference between "dismissed" and "executed" in game terms? Are dismissed generals back in the pool?

Dismissed are back in the pool and can be reassigned.

Dead is gone, unless they are zombie generals. Zombie generals can only command units that were destroyed and then rebuilt.

quote:

Dead is gone, unless they are zombie generals. Zombie generals can only command units that were destroyed and then rebuilt.

Yep! And zombie units can only move one hex, but will inspire fear in enemy units, lowering their morale by 20%.

And they don't consume supplies or ammo, they kill by eating enemy soldier's brains.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 3:37:23 PM

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Dead is gone, unless they are zombie generals. Zombie generals can only command units that were destroyed and then rebuilt.

You're wrong. There are zombie generals. Commanding zombie truppen. I think these guys should be in the German OOB.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 3:37:59 PM

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Hell I can't wait to hear when WitW comes out that Patton was dismissed for slapping a private...lol...

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 3:46:49 PM

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Anyway, correct me if I am wrong but Hitler did not execute any general because of some poor performance

Dismissed, yes, a lot of them

He did assassinate those who were involved in the complots. But that's a totally different issue.

So I don't understand this rule, sorry.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 5:21:35 PM

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"General XXX has been Executed!!!" seems to strike the wrong tone.

I think we should go with more detail:

"General von XXX has been shamed to suicide by elaborate Gestapo forgeries"
"General XXXov has been beaten for two weeks in the Lubyanka basement, and has confessed to more than thirty plots against Comrade Stalin"
"General XXX has succumbed to a vodka and/or schnapps overdose."

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 10:24:01 PM

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For Hitler for much of the war, there was "dismissed" and then there was "kicked out of the army". The later never commanded again and were stripped of rank and the right to wear the uniform, etc. (Hoepner would be an example).

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/20/2011 11:37:03 PM

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General Hadler was arrested the day after the July Plot, but wasn't offically dismissed from the army till 1/31/45.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/21/2011 12:38:38 AM

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Version 1.01....geez, that's like the Stone Age.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/21/2011 2:15:52 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus

Anyway, correct me if I am wrong but Hitler did not execute any general because of some poor performance Dismissed, yes, a lot of them

He did assassinate those who were involved in the complots. But that's a totally different issue.

So I don't understand this rule, sorry.

If memory serves, there was one, I believe called Sponeck, who was dismissed, tried and executed in 1942 for retreating in the face of Soviet Landings in the Kerch peninsula.

By and large they tended to be dismissed and sent home, certainly at the higher levels.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/21/2011 2:54:11 AM

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On 23 July 1999, the 55th anniversary of the execution, Sponeck's son by his second marriage, Hans-Christof Graf Sponeck, who was just six years old when his father was executed, held a requiem at his father's grave. Hans-Christof Graf Sponeck served as Assistant Secretary General and Diplomat, United Nations, until his retirement a short time ago

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/21/2011 3:24:15 AM

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He was sentenced to death in 1942, but Hitler commuted his sentence to six years in prison.

Himmler ordered his execution after the July Plot. Took place on 7/23/44.

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/21/2011 3:41:06 AM

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I never read anything about it, was he actually involved or did he have any knowledge whatsoever of the plot, or was it simply an opportunity for Himmler to be Himmler?

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RE: Hitler must have had one of his famous fits - 2/21/2011 5:02:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: Baron von Beer

I never read anything about it, was he actually involved or did he have any knowledge whatsoever of the plot, or was it simply an opportunity for Himmler to be Himmler?

He wasn't involved, but was a suspected anti Nazi.

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