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ORIGINAL: a_gonatas

I have heard this mentioned before, but I have never seen any indications that the designers were looking to change it?

Port bombing seems really rough on ships disbanded in port. Its almost as if you can drop 4 bombs on a port and hit 3 different ships there, often at night :).

The lesson, for the time being, is that you try to never leave disbanded ships in air attack range. Its especially tough on minetenders, ammo ships and sub tenders that need to disband in a port to function.

I am thinking that the percentages in these attacks is way off and would even consider some sort of house rule in our game until something is adjusted.

Thoughts?

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ORIGINAL: a_gonatas

I have heard this mentioned before, but I have never seen any indications that the designers were looking to change it?

Port bombing seems really rough on ships disbanded in port. Its almost as if you can drop 4 bombs on a port and hit 3 different ships there, often at night :).

The lesson, for the time being, is that you try to never leave disbanded ships in air attack range. Its especially tough on minetenders, ammo ships and sub tenders that need to disband in a port to function.

I am thinking that the percentages in these attacks is way off and would even consider some sort of house rule in our game until something is adjusted.

Thoughts?

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ORIGINAL: a_gonatas

I can appreciate that ships disbanded in port are more vunerable. But this is absurd.

It happened to me again tonight. I had two CVE's disbanded in Singapore and 9 Dutch B-25's flew over from Batavia. There were 25 ships disbanded in Singapore and the two CVE's (only) each took 3-4 bomb hits. Now that is what I call level bombing!!!

I didn't even know there were B-25's that could reach Singapore. Now I do. the only viable counter seems to be NEVER disband ships in port within range of even a handfull of level bombers or they are likely to become automatic victims.

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ORIGINAL: Puhis

When and where?

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ORIGINAL: herwin

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ORIGINAL: Puhis

When and where?

See this paper.

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ORIGINAL: LoBaron

Wow Herwin!

Very interesting work, thank you I enjoyed the read.

Just a small question: is there a technical difference between pound, hit, strike, and bomb in the Appendix?
Or did you just get tired of using the same word for the same thing over and over again?

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ORIGINAL: a_gonatas

I have to agree that when you say that is "exactly" what happened, you are a bit off the mark.

Nobody is saying the disbanded ships should be safe from attack. All I am saying is that the number of level bombing hits against the number of bombs being dropped by very small to modest bomber forces is mind numbing in these situations!

My opponent had not even reconed Singapore and had no intelligence on the ships disbanded there. The port was packed with large AP's and AK's that were similiar in size to the small CVE's. The 9 B-25's merely turned up and took out the most valuable ships there as a target of opportunity. And I have seen even more austounding precision bombing when a port with a few small ships is similiarly attacked. The small ships are always hit in my exerience day or night. Its automatic.

Now granted, I know CAP will spoil their aim some. But the percentages they are starting from have to be way out of whack.

Here is the thing: My obvious counter to all this is to keep all ships within range of port attacks formed up in TFs all the time. That makes them pretty much invunerable. Then when you need to reprovision a sub or rearm a cruiser you disband to get the work done and then form up again quick. Talk about making a labor intensive game more so. I have never played against the AI, maybe it does not attack ports with bombers. But live opponents will when they find the extreme vunerability here. And I am not sure its adding much to the game. Its just making it a bit less playable.

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ORIGINAL: a_gonatas

Hey, everything is my own fault no doubt. :) But I really don't believe that a level bomber in daylight on a bomb range could achieve the sort of hit rates/accuracy I am seeing. Obviously, much less so at night which we will not disagree on.

The size of the target doesn't seem to matter either. If you have a few motor launches disbanded in a port, a handful of passing bombers will nail them too.