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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/21/2011 11:02:23 AM   
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On Troop Evacuation
I just realized that it works in a really stupid way. First you need to order your patrol boat/transport unit to transport some troops from the base they are sitting in. And only then the "Pick Up Troops" options appear, allowing you to perform air evacuation from endangered bases, without putting your air units in the harm's way...

Can be a pain- especially if you only have restricted troops in the base your aircraft are in. You can get the "pick up troops" as well by selecting supply transport, select the base you want to pick up from (as your supply transport base) and then "Pick up troops" becomes available (only workaround I've found if I only have restricted troops where the aircraft are based).

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/21/2011 7:06:12 PM   
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Thanks, I'll remember that.


September 26-27, 1942

Andamans: The first attack at Port Blair went well enough:
Ground combat at Port Blair (46,58)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 72345 troops, 894 guns, 413 vehicles, Assault Value = 2631
Defending force 25706 troops, 305 guns, 644 vehicles, Assault Value = 859
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Japanese adjusted assault: 4291
Allied adjusted defense: 4701
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
3035 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 261 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 108 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Vehicles lost 47 (1 destroyed, 46 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1340 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 223 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Vehicles lost 73 (4 destroyed, 69 disabled)

Assaulting units:
21st Division
33rd Division
27th Electric Engineer Regiment
56th Division
40th Brigade
2nd Recon Regiment
20th Engineer Regiment
12th Division
55th Division
2nd Raiding Rgt /2
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
Southern Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
39th Indian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
3rd Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
17th Indian Division
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
1st Madras Construction Battalion
RAF 222 Group Wing
221 Group RAF
6th Medium Regiment
Pathan Construction Battalion
1st Bombay Construction Battalion
RAF 221 Group Wing
24th Indian Construction Battalion
22nd Light AA Regiment
Burma Corps
RAF 221 Group Base Force /1

Even with another paradrop, we got the short end of adjusted AV... Not the short end of losses, though, considering the difference in numbers. I have one prepared brigade more to throw at Port Blair, but it probably will be unnecessary.

I still wonder how the Allies get leader bonuses so often, though... I took care to have good division and brigade commanders, and even sacked Terauchi from the Southern Army HQ, although that was expensive...

Meanwhile, bigred decided to harass my amphib force (it seems that the CD regiment at Port Blair is completely knocked out, as Allied fire has died down) by sending his PT boards again, in TFs of one. They failed to hit anything, but over a dozen of my ships got damaged by ramming each other while dodging these pests. Three AKs are even in danger.


Burma: Allied aviation has grown very active, because between Andamans, China and Pearl, which impose big demands on my aviation, I was undertandably lax at hitting Allied airbases. Mass night attacks started to bring some results, worryngly... I need to knock out Port Blair fast, to mount a counteroffensive in Burma. Little Andaman and Great Nicobar can remain blockaded for now, I'll need over three months to prepare troops for them anyway.


I See Dead Ships: Allies ships were suddenly spotted near Hawaii, with one xAK going forward and getting sank by the surface patrol. I wonder if Pearl is already critically short on supply. My bombers don't seem to actually take losses there anymore.

Among Allied warships, spotted farther away during a small and unsuccessful attack by Betties, was spotted CA Australia. What the heck? There was no way for her to escape KB at Shortlands, not with her damage, save for becoming a submarine... She is still on the sunk list, though.

If bigred will be insane enough to try actually sneaking a convoy at Pearl, he'll be faced with three fully committed Betty groups tomorrow, plus 2 SCTFs, one of them based around old battleships.


Carnage in the Air: Japanese just have lost their 5000th plane. Gotta be a record or something. At least for a game where Japan isn't defeated early. What's important, though, is that Japanese still beat Allies in sorties almost 2:1.

Also, CPO Oyama from Ryujo, the same guy who became the first Japanese ace of this war (in a day), just became the first double ace, by shooting down some Dauntlesses in Andamans. I'll watch his further career carefully, as will Japanese mass media.



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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/22/2011 1:56:06 PM   
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September 28, 1942: Naval battle of Hawaii

Bigred did not turn his force back. In fact, cruisers and APDs spotted yesterday were just a tiny part of it. The supply situation at Pearl must be much more desperate than I hoped. I don't have the time to describe the action right now, so just try to guess, how the first battleship duel of the war, pictured below, ended, until I'll be able to post detailed reports:






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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/22/2011 7:28:44 PM   
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Naval Battle of Hawaii, part 1: Hawaii Light CruDiv Action

Well, first of all, miraculous survival of CA Australia apparently is the result of CA Canberra being misidentified as her at Shortlands. I love this FOW.

Anyway, my light force found her and rectified this oversight in a series of night and day clashes against the Allied cruiser squadron (due to many separate engagements being fought, I'll show overall damage to the taskforces):

CA San Francisco, Shell hits 16
CA Australia, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CL Detroit, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Reid, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Downes, Shell hits 1, on fire

However, then my exhausted cruisers were bushwhacked by another Allied squadron:

Allied Ships
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Astoria, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Bagley, Shell hits 1
DD Shaw, Shell hits 3, on fire
DMS Lamberton, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage

Overall results were not pretty:

Japanese Ships
CL Agano, Shell hits 9, on fire
CL Noshiro, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Kiso, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Oboro, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yukaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kuri

Noshiro sank after the battle. Kiso is crippled but will likely survive barring further damage, she is very close to Lahaina, after all. Agano and DDs can go back to action, as they, except two DDs detached to escort Kiso, reloaded ammo at Lahaina after the battle. They are not in top shape, with reduced speed and Sys damage in 30s, so they won't do well against major combatants, though.


Naval Battle of Hawaii, part 2: BatDiv4 Action

Meanwhile, my heavy force found a huge Allied convoy at daytime. Knowing that escorting slow transports makes warships vulnerable, I expected a mighty slaughter, but...

Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 176,115, Range 15,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 8, heavy fires
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Kinu
DD Hayashio
DD Minegumo
DD Minekaze
DD Wakatake

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 6, on fire
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 24, on fire, heavy damage
DD Crosby, Shell hits 1
DD Humphreys, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kane, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Rathburne, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DMS Southard, Shell hits 1
xAK Steel Exporter, Shell hits 1
xAK Steel Navigator, Shell hits 4, on fire
xAK Steel Ranger
xAK Steel Voyager, Shell hits 1
xAK William Luckenbach, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Liloa, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Mahimahi, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAK Makawao
xAK Makua, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Maliko, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Manukai, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Mokihana, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Onomea
xAK Mormacmar, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Mormacrio
xAK Admiral Cole
xAK Governor Wright
AM Bellechasse, Shell hits 9, and is sunk

Poor visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
Allied TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 15,000 yards

Fuso has extinguished fires by the end of the day and retains limited ability to fight. But Hyuga, unfortunately, is doomed, with both fires and sys damage over 80 and little ability to move under her own power. That Isuzu has fires contained as well (after a couple of 14in hits) and might survive looks almost insulting in the light of this...

The decisive factor was American battleships having the safe killing zone of about 4k yards against their Japanese counterparts, where 356mm shells bounced off them, while their 14in guns scored penetrating hits freely. This deprived my force of opportunity to cripple Mississipi early in the battle. Very, very disappointing. I haven't realized that Japanese old battlewagons are outclassed to this extent. Transports also absorbed much of Japanese gunfire, and my ships wasted their torpedoes, as usual in day combat.


Naval Battle of Hawaii, part 3: Japanese Airstrikes

I had one Sally group on skipbombing duty and three Betty groups flying with torpedoes. They found a metric ton of small convoys all around, and four more slow Allied battleships north of Hawaii. So many strikes were flown in small packets. Overall results against warships:

BB New Mexico
BB Warspite, Torpedo hits 1
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1, Bomb hits 5, on fire
BB Colorado, Torpedo hits 1, Bomb hits 2
BB Oklahoma, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Astoria, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Four xAKs also were sunk or left in sinking condition.

I'll be extremely surprised if Oklahoma survives this, but other Allied battleships might well only have their paint scratched. Mississipi was not seen from the air. Either she sank, or was detached into escort TF and covered by weather.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/23/2011 1:10:58 AM   
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As you can see here, bigred is not going for half-measures anymore...

I committed a big mistake by not setting all Sallies at Lahaina on LowN. So now some cargo ships will inevitably get to Pearl. The question is, how to minimize their number, while also mitigating damage from the likely naval bombardments the next turn.

Thankfully, Allied warships were split into mutually unsupporting groups. That's the only reason I haven't lost both of my BBs outright. This might well allow me to intercept more merchants at sea, before they dock at Pearl. All Allied surface combatants in the direction of their approach, except for one CA, are banged up pretty well by now.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/23/2011 7:24:41 AM   
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This is potentially a very dangerous situation. He has 4 operational battleships in the region, while you are down to Fuso, and it looks like he is willing to sacrifice all 4 of them to get chow and ass wipe into PH. KB is at least two weeks away, IF you can disengage, and that is a big if. Only thing that can save the day is LBA, but if they ran into PH, AA will shred them. How's yours supply situation?

And why is he on the wrong side of Hawaii? Where did those ships came from?

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/23/2011 8:38:33 AM   
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Probably from Christmas Island. At the moment it seems unevitable that some transports will start unloading. I'll try to use my remaining surface combatants to minimize their number, rather than to try prevent naval bombardments by remaining Allied battleships. Dispersion among my multiple airbases will be used to minimize consequences of the latter.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/23/2011 9:17:44 AM   
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I'd say take all your surface combatants out of line.  You are only going to loose more, and for little gain.  Save them until the allies withdraw again, and leave their cripples creeping behind.

BigRed will surely bombard your airfields, but which ones, or all?  And will it be bad, or will he wast main gun ammo and afterwards?  If so, then it would be time for your (replenished) surface battle groups.

He could be trying to reopen Pearl while your forces are tied up at the Adamans. I doubt it is an evacuation, but even that would be possible.  You surely can't stop the transport run outright, or stop all the bombardment groups.  But make it expensive.  Focus one more day on hitting the surface groups, and then either put all Sallys on port strike to hit and sink the AK in Pearl while the Betties remain on torpedo strikes against the SCTF, or even put all bombers on port strike for a couple of days. Though they will unload there very quickly, they also light up very quickly from a 250kg GP bomb. A good chance BigRed will get only a fraction of supply on land.  The question is, is it all "just" supply? Did you spot anything suspicious like auxiliaries, APs/AVs etc (engineers? reinforcements)?  You seem to have taken 4 out of 17 xAK, thats about 100k supply.  Have you spotted other transport TF, or is that the only one?

If at all, I would perhaps send a DD group to Pearl to interrupt his resupply effort, though that is very risky and maybe not worth it.  MGT/MGB and TB would be nice now...

What you presently have left in the Kuriles?  What's Hiyo's status, and can you run anything fast to Pearl? 

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/23/2011 9:46:00 AM   
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Forgot to say about the supply situation... it is not very good, but passable. I just intended to send another major resupply convoy. Unfortunately, there aren't any more midgets and PT boats in the pool. I wonder why no midgets are available.

As about surface combatants, as I said all four fresh Allied battleships are to the north of Hawaii. Unless there is another battlegroup in the midst of convoys, Allies are down to one-two damaged CAs.

Evacuation is hardly possible, as there are no xAPs anywhere. It's a resupply effort. Thankfully, the airfield is completely damaged, so even if some supply will be unloaded during the night, the Allied aviation is not going to fly. Take a look at the gaggle of TFs near Pearl - these mostly seem to be transports. I believe they will rush for Pearl on the next day. And probably they scattered due to the presence of surface threat on this turn. I'll try sending my remaining ships in that zone, instead of contesting bombardments, so that as few as them as possible will start to unload before morning airstrikes. I have some PT boats at Hawaii... no more midgets other than in Hilo, where they are too far to interfere, though.

Unfortunately, I can't select targets between warships and transports. My planes will attack whatever strikes their fancy. I can only hope to achieve sufficient strike saturation to sink major Allied surface combatants anyway.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/24/2011 4:40:41 PM   
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September 29, 1942: Naval Battle of Hawaii, Day 2

Well, this long, long day was a mixed bag.

Positives:

- Allied TFs, save for two small ones, failed to naval bombard airfields. Results were piddly and most of my planes flew as a result
- Fuso's TF plowed through Allied transports.
- Allies have launched a squadron of Wildcats from who knows where, but it was destroyed by escorting Zeros without doing any damage.
- Pearl's flak was still inactive.

Negatives:

- Hawaii Light CruDiv, after clashing with Allied cruisers with poor results (I blame all of comprising ships but one DD separating into an escort TF) retreated to Lahaina, where it was destroyed by Allied battleships.
- Allies brought everything and the kitchen sink to this battle, even more than I saw yesterday. As a result, damage from air attacks was very much spread out. What's worse, many torpedo bombers flew against merchants and many skipbombers against battleships. Weather and torpedo duds also helped Allies.

So, overall results:

CA Astoria and DD Dewey were the only warships that sank before my pilots' eyes.

BB New Mexico, Torpedo hits 4, Bomb hits 4, heavy damage
BB Warspite, Torpedo hits 2, Bomb hits 4
BB Idaho, Torpedo hits 2, Bomb hits 17 (11 60-kg ones from Jakes), on fire
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1
BB Colorado
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CA Quincy, Torpedo hits 1
DD Sims, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
KV Vancouver, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

7 xAKs sunk or almost certainly sunk by air attacks. 10 xAKs sunk or almost certainly sunk by surface action (not a good return for losing a modern CL and three DDs, but, on the other hand, I believe all the surface action prevented Warspite/New Mexico from hitting Lahaina). Overall estimated Allied xAK losses for two days - 26.

Japanese losses:

CL Agano, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
DD Yukaze, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DD Sanae, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

CL Kinu, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 2, on fire

2 midget subs (one took a shot at CA Quincy but missed), one PT, a couple of barges (after bigred's streams of single-PT TF I felt justified at using them to interfere with allied TFs' routing, but this didn't work anyway, as it seems). 16 bombers lost to flak and operationally, and two Zeros lost operationally, in exchange for 12 Wildcats.

The thing I fear most at the moment is Pearl's airfield suddenly filling with planes... Recon still shows 74 damage, though, so, hopefully, I'll have at least one more day of free attacks. Every Allied battleship detected so far is already damaged (with New Mexico likely a goner by this point), so I hope accumulating damage will begin to tell in the next round.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/24/2011 4:53:30 PM   
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Well, an expensive battle, but I think you still have the upper hand.  26 transports is the important part, but who knows how many BigRed brought (any plane ground losses reported?).  Once it is ensured no supply and reinforcements reach Pearl, the strategic goal is reached and you can go for the secondaries to kill a couple of warships.  Unfortunately your blockade-sron was insufficient for this task and had to pay the price, but it was probably a reasonable gamble to take.

The way back home for all those cripples must be long, so how about any of the TFs from the Kuriles Ops racing down here? Any CV/L/E nearby?

Also, how about running an emergency supply and air reinforcement convoy from the home islands?



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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/24/2011 7:14:14 PM   
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A convoy with about 23k tons of supplies is just about to pass Midway at the moment. Lahaina has enough for the immediate future anyway, other bases may find themselves short soon enough, though. As about planes, I'm only using types that can be shuttled through Midway on Johnston on Hawaii, except for Nates to which I downgraded two Army Sentais there, as they were doing only training anyway.

I counted my sorties, and only 73 Betties, out of about 115-120 available, made attacks in the morning. I want to know why. No bases had overstack, but Lihue and Hilo did not have enough supplies, maybe that's the reason...

If anyone wonders where I got so many Betties, two airgroups were sent to Hawaii from Aleutians and Marshalls before this turn. I had five groups making naval attacks, with 20% of planes on search. Maybe the search percentage was too large, but it still does not account for this lack of numbers.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/24/2011 11:01:42 PM   
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See page 252 of the manual for base supply impact on flying level bombers.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/25/2011 1:59:28 PM   
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September 30 - October 1, 1942: The Final Day and Aftermath of Naval Battle of Hawaii

30/09, Night Phase: September 30th didn't start very well. First I-171 finally put CA San Francisco out of her misery. But then Fuso's battlegroup steered too close to Pearl in the pursuit of transports...

Night Time Surface Combat, near Molokai at 181,108, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 1
DD Oboro, Shell hits 1
DD Minekaze
DD Wakatake
DD Kuri

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 26, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 3, on fire

Reduced visibility due to Rain with 71% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 71% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
BB Fuso engages BB Colorado at 6,000 yards

What makes the outcome notable if the fact, that this is maybe second or third time in the entire war, wheh escorting DDs meaningfully engaged capital ships. Certainly, all my own torpedo hits on Allied heavies so far were from cruisers. I'm seriously reconsidering my standard percentage of 6 escorts per 2 capital ships, in favor of 5:3 or 4:4.
Anyway, Fuso was obliterated very early, after just one penetrating hit on Colorado. Destroyers, however, lit up the American BB with superstructure hits.

Then Allies launched more attempts at naval bombardments, but only shelling of Molokai by Tennessee was at all effective.

Also, one of my destroyers ran across two unescorted AGs southeast of Pearl and left one demolished, while setting other on fire.


30/09, Day Phase: After that, Japanese air attacks started again.

First of all, we found the source of Wildcats, that was CVE Copahee. With my typical, luck, she was first found by an unescorted Betty raid, that lost 7 planes for no results. The second raid was escorted though, and Copahee went under swiftly indeed.
This, I think, is a big mistake for bigred. In his position he needs to guard his remaining flight deck, even slow ones, very carefully, to regain even simple parity in carrier air before second half of 1944. I lost only 10 G4Ms or so and maybe a couple of Zeros due to his decision to deploy a CVE in battle, which is clearly a negligible cost.

Then Betties and torpedo-carrying Emilies hit Allied battleships. Colorado and New Mexico were finished, and Warspite also sunk. Other victims:

CA Quincy, Bomb hits 4
DD Jarvis, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Cushing, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

4 xAKs were sunk or almost certainly sunk as well.


01/10: And then, when I expected my LBA to wreak havoc upon the Allied fleet, now that their bomb sponges were mostly gone, 70% of my planes refused to fly. All Sallies but one group ordered to hit Oahu's airfield, remained on ground. Also, planes in Hilo refused to accept torpedoes from 11th Air Flotilla HQ in Lahaina, despite being in range, and as 9th Air Flotilla in Hilo was short on them, they flew with bombs. With many Betties going after DDs, results were rather underwhelming:

CL Honolulu, Torpedo hits 1
CL Adelaide, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Duncan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Well, at least Allied haval bombardments, while still attempted, remained small and ineffective. I believe bigred now has only Tennessee in relatively combat-ready condition around Hawaii, and bombardments by cruisers/destroyers do minimal damage.

Also, Americans had only a token CAP over Pearl, and the airfield was beaten back to 100% damage.

Overall Allied losses so far: 1 CVE, 3 BBs and 3 CAs confirmed sunk; 1 BB almost certainly sunk; 1 BB might be, but far from certain. Also, a BB is spotted in Oahu's harbor, so another ship, most likely Idaho, might have disbanded there.

Wait for more analysis, as well as the news from other fronts in the upcoming monthly update.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/25/2011 7:56:03 PM   
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The Montly Report for September

This month saw a lot of action, including the first Japanese base lost for good, and the biggest Japanese fleet losses so far. In the end, though, I'm inclined to consider September of 1942 a successful month for the Empire. Port Blair operation promises success in the near future, and Allies will feel their losses at Hawaii later, when more valuable ships will be forced to sail with amphibious TFs and bombard invasion sites, instead of being on guard against IJN. As the Battle of Hawaii evidenced, these ships were excellent bomber baits, and even with minimal air cover they managed to push alot of transports to Pearl... but most of them aren't going to bait anything but fish anymore. And while it is true, that any ship exchange at less than about 5:1 rate is beneficient to Allies in the very long term, I'll take 2:1 too.

It should be admitted, though, that I made a number of mistakes this month. Those related to China theatre will be elaborated in the post about it; but I also was too careless at Hawaii, confident that my opponent won't try to just push the resupply convoy regardless of losses, as I personally wouldn't have thought of using my fleet this way. I should have already seen that bigred has fairly big loss tolerance (which, until now, was benefitting me in Andamans). I also should have ordered my cruiser squadron to return to Johnston, instead of Lahaina, and be more careful about the direction Fuso's group went. Overall my successes owe more to the strength of my position and Allies' failure to stage a proper series of naval bombardments (my surface combatants played a role here, though...) than to any tactical brilliance on my part.






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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/26/2011 9:45:55 AM   
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Burma

Allies have moved to Schwebo in force. With just two divisions (ImpGuards and 2nd Tank) I don't feel like I can rout them for certain. However, my air attacks are keeping them from fortifying Schwebo or building the airfield.

For several air turn Allies have conducted massed (60+ 2E bombers) night air raids on Magwe, which inflicted little losses on my squadrons, but caused airfield damage to accumulate. Bigred stopped them though, just as they forced me to send more construction units there.

Chinese, supported by large, but ineffective (due to jungle) Allied air attacks are assaulting Lashio... but even with the help of American paratroopers they are suffering horrible casualties:

Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 17429 troops, 82 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 642
Defending force 6641 troops, 34 guns, 318 vehicles, Assault Value = 397
Allied adjusted assault: 599
Japanese adjusted defense: 499
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
2303 casualties reported
Squads: 130 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
83rd Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Division
54th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
1st USMC Parachute Bn /3
Lusu War Area
11th Group Army

Defending units:
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
4th RTA Division
47th Const Co

No Japanese units were actually destroyed in this battle.

I was railroading reinforcements there, but one turn after I made screenshot of the map, on October 2, Allied dropped paratroopers on Tongoo. They have failed to take the base, but they might interfere with rail transportation...






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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/26/2011 9:59:51 AM   
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Andamans

The air battle goes in Japanese favor so far, with bigred making the mistake of leaving his planes on the ground to be pummeled for two days in a row.

However, three AKs sank from the damage sustained due to collisions during the landing at Port Blair, and two more were sunk by Allied divebombers after separating into an escort TF.

Reduction of Port Blair proceeds nicely, even though bigred is airlifting 6th Australian Division there, despite by LRCAP efforts... but I believe this is too late (he started doing so when forts were already reduced to level 3) and they are only going to become POWs. Here's the results of the last Japanese assault.

Ground combat at Port Blair (46,58)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 63666 troops, 881 guns, 349 vehicles, Assault Value = 2108
Defending force 23612 troops, 381 guns, 624 vehicles, Assault Value = 754
Japanese adjusted assault: 2678
Allied adjusted defense: 1603
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2612 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 153 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 166 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1219 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 89 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 159 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Vehicles lost 37 (15 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Assaulting units:
20th Engineer Regiment
33rd Division
21st Division
55th Division
2nd Raiding Regiment
56th Division
12th Division
40th Brigade
2nd Recon Regiment
27th Electric Engineer Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Southern Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
39th Indian Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
17th Indian Division
6th Australian Div /2
7th Armoured Brigade
3rd Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
45th Indian Bde /2
24th Indian Construction Battalion
1st Madras Construction Battalion
Burma Corps
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
221 Group RAF
6th Medium Regiment
Pathan Construction Battalion
8th Medium Regiment
1st Bombay Construction Battalion
173 Wing
22nd Light AA Regiment
172 Wing
RAF 221 Group Base Force /1

I'm going to order another assault after one day (to let my troops rest a bit), and will send some naval bombardments to improve the odds further. Hopefully, this will finish Port Blair for good, so I can shift troops from there to Burma and punish the uppity Allied vanguard.

Force Z was hanging suspiciously close, but retreated on the last turn, just as I sent KB-1 to sea again, in hopes of finishing it off, if it tries to bombard Trinkat.

I'm not sure where to proceed in the medium term, though. The obvious targets are Little Andaman and Pearl Harbor, but the former Allies can reinforce by air very significantly, and Pearl just got an infusion of supplies, which might last for a couple of months.






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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/26/2011 10:24:36 AM   
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Definitely recovering the perimeter in the Indian-Burma area is high on my suggestions list.  Little Adaman is surely a fruit that looms in the open, on trying to hold it might draw BigRed into more dire moves.  Schwebo would be another interesting thing, if you can lure him further south while preparing whatever free ground forces you can muster (after Little Adaman and while Pearl is proceeding) for a left hook behind him.  This open terrain in Burma is the best area to sensibly use your tank forces now, so why not try something there? Seems like the Schwebo forces are moving West, perhaps planning to cross the river and bypass Manalay?

Pearl is in my opinion a must -- one of the original strategic goals, and taking the last "unsinkable carrier" in the Hawai'ian chain has very obvious advantages. Loosing him would exponentially increase the cost for CENTPAC operations for BigRed since he most likely will not be able to simply bypass this chain.  And how expensive a reconquest would be without full-scale CV air superiority is obvious.  Even then, if the islands are well stocked, it would take him a huge number of divisions, and a couple of months to retake Hawai'i.  That is a safety margin the whole CENTPAC sector would gain.
Did you count how many AK made it safely into Pearl?  Did you check whether any of them carried planes?  Sounds like you sunk a lot of them, so maybe it is difficult to tell whether it was just trickle of supplies, or whether a more significant load made it.  By bombing the port you could perhaps estimate the number/types of AK and estimate the situation.  I would guess BigRed won't be able to afford another such run before his CV forces get fleshed out, and this supply can't possibly last that long if he continuously repairs the facilities.

I would think about preparing some annoying far SE-PAC ops like Marquesas to build a sub/Betty outpost on some remote islands to annoy his supply convoys while your carriers still have superiority.  In my opinions this will thwart BigReds plans more than a further Kuriles adventure.  Other than that, I think it is time to fortify the perimeter, use your temporary CV superiority for some well planned raids (OZ looks so peaceful, don't you think?). 

At the recent battle of Hawai'i, what summary loss did you suffer?  Fuso and Ise, Hyuga and a CL?




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/26/2011 2:20:41 PM   
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BB Tennessee was sunk by Japanese PT boats and I-175 on the night of October 2. Is there an achievement in the game for sinking the entire starting USN force? While FOW makes unclear which battleships were lost, I'm pretty sure that 3 were desroyed in Pearl earlier, and 4 more lost in this battle. Add to that 2 slow RN battleships (Royal Sovereign in Andamans and Warspite now), plus about thirty cruisers, and things are looking good for the gun club, at least until 1944.

Japanese ship losses in the batte of Hawaii consist of BB Hyuga, BB Fuso, CL Agano, CL Noshiro, 3 DDs (one modern), 3 midgets, and 3 PT boats. CL Kiso has disbanded to Molokai in cripped state. Isuzu and Kinu are limping to Johnston, where I plan to regroup my forces, including convoys incoming from the north, and make a push to bring the resupply convoy to Lahaina, now when major Allied units are sunk or chased away by aviation. Speaking of aviation, it continues to be unwilling to fly, although air attacks sank another xAK and a KV.
Unfortunately, I realized too late that I need to bring auxilaries to Johnston for emergency rearming. This battle sure was a comedy of mistakes on both sides.

Allies have lost 1 CVE, 5 BBs (+1 probable), 3 CAs, 4 DDs (+1 probable), 1 probable DMS, 1 KV, 1 probable AG, around 31 xAKs. In terms of ship losses this is a significant victory. Again, Allies can technically accept this rate of attrition, but bigred is going to miss all these battlewagons in the times when every major Allied invasion will be contested by throngs of kamikazes.

I estimate that Allies might have unloaded around 100k, maybe 150k of supplies in Pearl, judging from the number of ships spotted. I don't know if any planes were unloaded, recon doesn't spot any at the moment. I don't think that this amount is going to last more than 3 months, Allies would have gained anyway from the pause caused by repreparation of my troops. However, this will mean that the garrizon will be in better shape to meet my landing force...
Presense of auxilaries indicates that bigred is serious about reactivating Pearl. Of course, I hope my aviation will be able to prevent that. But with my own supply problems from unexpectedly intense operations, this is, unfortunately, not guaranteed. KB-2 might come to help (I'll show later why it isn't on the move to intercept retreating Allied ships already).

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/26/2011 2:27:51 PM   
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For some unclear reason, loading of fragments, that remained on Umnak, took almost a week, tying KB-2 to place. But as due to sinking of half of its AOs, KB-2 lacked fuel for a rush south anyway, and was short on sorties as well... However you look at it, my carrier force was unable to intervene, and will need to make a trip to Home Islands before it will be fully combat ready. Bigred picked a good time for his convoy charge.

Well, at least we got two heavily damaged and possibly sunk Allied subs from the bargain. And otherwise the evacuation is proceeding fine. Only one AF batallion remains on Adak, and I'm airlifting it out of there.




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In this month Japanese forces scored a few more tactical victories, cleaning Chinese units west of Canton and north of Kukong. Up to 1.5k Chinese squads were destroyed. However, strategically I totally fumbled my attepmpts at misdirection by a sneak attack in the direction of Liuchow. Liuchow and approaches to it are held strongly now, while an even bigger force looks across the river at my main body south of Changsha. I'll likely spend the next two months pounding it from the air and waiting for the remaining elements of 3rd Tank Division to arrive.

Meanwhile, Chinese are making probing moves around Sian, which is now up to level 4 forts. Their effort doesn't look like a real major offensive. I believe a couple of brigades will be sufficent to hold the endangered road hexes.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/26/2011 2:59:53 PM   
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Looking at my sorry oil/fuel situation, I've shut down the HI plant at Nagoya, after all. So far, HI surplus remains sufficient.

Also, I've finally stored a decent pile of vehicles. Naval SY are short, but this will be fixed by decelerating CVL Ibuki. She doesn't have an organic airgroup anyway.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/27/2011 10:55:24 AM   
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Air Production

As you can see, I'm not a fan of overbuilding early-war airframes... will need to turn A6M2 production back on in the near future, though. The Glen plant will use up all the remaining engines soon enough. Then I probably use it to build some Ki-48s, just to rebuild 3rd Sentai, which otherwise cannot upgrade one of its elements from recon to level bombers. After that, we shall see.

I'm still underproducing Nakajima Ha-34 engines. So, production of Tojos and Helens is not as big as I want.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/27/2011 11:00:25 AM   
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Ki-44-IIb accelerated to 1943/4 on the first of October. As I intended, I shifted research to IIc model. Hopefully I'll be able to accelerate it by 7-8 months.

I've failed to accelerate Ki-43-IIa, though. It will become available on 1942/11. Oh well. At least other models down the line will be accelerated somewhat. Not that they are great fighters, or anything, as I said before I primarily want them as anti-shipping fighter-bombers.




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Detailed Air Losses

With 683 Allied planes lost, for only 484 Japanese planes, the loss gap is closing quickly. I've considered nearly impossible to attrit Allied aviation at this stage, but at such rate we might have a chance...




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/27/2011 11:16:12 AM   
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Pilot Losses and Pilot Situation

Approximately 250 more lost pilots... Surprisingly bad, considering, that there weren't that many big fights over the enemy country. Still, my pilot training program can make up for this sort of losses.

Speaking of pilot training, I decided that training all bomber pilots on ASW takes unacceptably long time, if I need acceptable ASW skills... so it's back to micromanaging squadrons.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/27/2011 2:19:25 PM   
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What are you training your Army bombers in? Do you have specialized squadrons for skipbombing or are they Jacks of all trades?

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/27/2011 8:35:22 PM   
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Either GrdB + LowN or LowN + ASW now. The latter will receive more training, to get their skills to 65-70, 60-65 will suffice for the more numerous former group. In my experience, even units with only 15-30% of pilots trained in LowN to 50+ can score reasonable number of hits.


Anyway:

Heroes of the Empire

I-175 should be mentioned for sinking Tennessee despite having over 50 flotation damage from previous encounters.

Crew of Fuso shall be nominated posthumously. Their ship has perished, and it has perished where the sacrifice was not necessary, but it played a significant role at sinking two, maybe three battleships and about 10 merchants.



October 2-4, 1942

Hawaii: The situation at Hawaii sucks. 80+% of bombers still refuse to fly, even if their base has enough supplies, like Lahaina. Allied CLs and DDs bombard airfields daily, doing relatively little damage, but destroying a few planes here and there. Because Sallies didn't fly to bomb the airfield, Pearl went active with over 100 fighters. The fighter battle was in Japanese favor, but i've lost a number of Betties to them. My surface combatants will need a few more days to gather at Johnston (2 CAs are 1-2 days away, 2 more are 5-6 days away), and I'm contemplating temporarily pulling out the bombers and concentrating on sweeping Pearl. In other situation that would have been an immense crisis, but I believe that at the moment Allies suffered such tremendous aircraft losses at Andamans and Aleutians, that they won't be able to sustain their air effort.


Andamans: On October 4 LBA and KB squadrons plastered airfields at Port Blair and Little Andaman respectively, bombing from 25k (above British flak) and destroying about 15 planes on the ground in total. Then I lucked out and my BTF unleashed one of the best bombardments of the war:

Naval bombardment of Port Blair at 46,58
Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
DD Shirakumo
DD Shinonome
DD Kasumi
DD Oyashio
DD Kuroshio


Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 90 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 22 (5 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 36 (17 destroyed, 19 disabled)


So, Allied infantry surely has suffered major disruption, which contributed to the success of my ground assault:

Ground combat at Port Blair (46,58)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 61996 troops, 880 guns, 349 vehicles, Assault Value = 2006
Defending force 21938 troops, 376 guns, 604 vehicles, Assault Value = 674
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0
Japanese adjusted assault: 1591
Allied adjusted defense: 621
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Port Blair !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3049 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 164 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 143 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled

Allied ground losses:
24399 casualties reported
Squads: 914 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2050 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 276 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 477 (477 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 842 (842 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 19


Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Regiment
21st Division
40th Brigade
56th Division
27th Electric Engineer Regiment
55th Division
12th Division
33rd Division
20th Engineer Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
14th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Southern Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
6th Australian Div /2
39th Indian Division
3rd Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
17th Indian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
45th Indian Bde /2
1st Bombay Construction Battalion
173 Wing
Burma Corps
22nd Light AA Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
172 Wing
24th Indian Construction Battalion
2nd Ceylon H AA Regiment
221 Group RAF
1st Madras Construction Battalion
Pathan Construction Battalion

Yeaaahhh. Two Indian divisions, a third of the 6th Australian, plus one of the best early Allied armored units just went poof. Even if bigred had saved fragments from every unit, destroyed divisions might well take a year to rebuild. I believe that the successful bombardment was vital at tipping the scales here - my troops have accumulated quite a bit of fatigue and disruption, due to sitting in the jungle and deliberate attacking every two days, so as you can see, their adjusted AV actually went down, not up this time.

21st Division will garrizon Port Blair for the time being. It suffered the most and will need a lot of time to restore disabled squads. Other major formations will go to Burma for now, although some will start preparing for Pearl Harbor.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/27/2011 8:50:49 PM   
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Very nice, he will miss those units in Burma later on dearly. Don't forget to split 21st so it can repair disabled squads faster.

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In my experience, even units with only 15-30% of pilots trained in LowN to 50+ can score reasonable number of hits.


This is nice to hear. I have three bomber Sentais training for ASW from December 7th. A month later, despite having started with ASW skill in 20s and 30s, I already have few guys above 60 in each. I figure they will be ready for deployment by the end of January, that's pretty fast, less than two months.



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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 2/27/2011 8:53:23 PM   
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Congrats, I have not seen such a successful assault before.  Ozzies were good troops, but the Indian divisions are probably no match for the Japanese at this time.
I would agree with your plan to sweep Pearl and reinforce for air force there.  Probably it would also be good to base a carrier division off Johnston to interdict if Bigred is so serious about reopening Pearl.  Just brings about the risk that is always involved when splitting KB.  Maybe after the Adamans adventure is winding down, all of KB should return to Kwajelin or somewhere central?

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