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RE: Rising Sun, Shooting Star (Chez vs Canoerebel) - 2/26/2011 9:03:29 AM

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Hi Chez,

Your opponent moves in the Pacific are relatively standard. He knows where you should attack, because there are not so many "must haves" at this stage of the game, and he can easily be waiting for you in most of those bases. In my opinion, the right way to handle this is to delay the landings for a week or two. You'll get these islands anyway.

Right now, he's gone for Rabaul, Midway, and Tulagi, and found you there. I would suggest you check your back in Guam, and the Marshalls. If the Lexington is alone in Midway (a good look at the force composition in the combat report, and perhaps a rewatch of the replay should tell that), there is a possibility that the Entreprise could be around the Gilberts.

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RE: Rising Sun, Shooting Star (Chez vs Canoerebel) - 2/26/2011 10:26:18 AM

ChezDaJez

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ORIGINAL: fcharton

Hi Chez,

Your opponent moves in the Pacific are relatively standard. He knows where you should attack, because there are not so many "must haves" at this stage of the game, and he can easily be waiting for you in most of those bases. In my opinion, the right way to handle this is to delay the landings for a week or two. You'll get these islands anyway.

Right now, he's gone for Rabaul, Midway, and Tulagi, and found you there. I would suggest you check your back in Guam, and the Marshalls. If the Lexington is alone in Midway (a good look at the force composition in the combat report, and perhaps a rewatch of the replay should tell that), there is a possibility that the Entreprise could be around the Gilberts.

Francois

Thanks for the advice. This is my 5th PBEM over the past 7 years and I have yet to see anyone make this move. Dan plays a more aggressive game than I am used to and he has already lost 6 or 7 DDs for this reason. However, I will simply have to strengthen the escorts and make him pay for his raids. I am sending 2 BBs and some CAs from the PI operation to Rabaul as we speak.

Unfortunately, Dan does know where I have to go. He knows that airbases are the key to the Japanese advance. The Japanese player does not have the engineer forces to quickly build airbases so I must take those that are available. Delaying 1-2 weeks simply gives him time to bring in more ships and there are several Aussie CAs and CLs near Brisbane to call on.

The Rabaul move was brilliant in my opinion. If he stays there for the next turn though, he will probably lose those ships to my TF just arriving. It has a good escort. Dan said it was a stroke of luck that he ran into my TF at Tulagi as he only pulled in there to refuel. A single DD normally won't cause much damage but my TF was only two ships. My mistake was in not sending more escorts. The next TF of mine that approaches the Solomons will have carrier support.

I wouldn't doubt that he may send Enterprise to raid the Marshalls. I am weak there but all my ships have left the area so he can raid if he wants. The Marshalls are empty of anything worthwhile. Sending Enterprise towards Guam is a surefire way to lose her. Some players do send their carriers in to be sunk for the sole purpose of replacing them with Essex class but I would find that gamey in the extreme.

I also doubt that he will send Enterprise further west. My guess is that she is headed south for Suva or Pago Pago. If she took on VMF-211 from Wake then Enterprise is overloaded and flight ops would be severely impacted. KB is nearing Wake so if she goes there she is sunk.

His positioning of Lexington was excellent. I am sure that only Lex is there in that only VF-2, VS-2, VB-2 and VT-2 flew. He knew that my tankers would take the northern route and he had spotted KB the prior 2 turns so he knew they were in no position to guard the tankers. I should have routed the tankers much further north to keep them out of harm's way.

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RE: Rising Sun, Shooting Star (Chez vs Canoerebel) - 2/26/2011 10:36:50 AM

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This is AE, Steve... he won't get any replacements for his early war carriers - at least not any that he won't receive anyway. That was a big change from WITP.

In our game I had the Australia en route to Rabaul when my aircraft identified one of your BBs so I reversed her course. I'm afraid that you may have become too used to my careful use of my vessels, leaving you open to someone who's more willing to throw the dice. I have faith that you will adjust...

Now, it's time for me to go to bed... way past, actually - but there was a good film on TNT.

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RE: Rising Sun, Shooting Star (Chez vs Canoerebel) - 2/26/2011 4:10:03 PM

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Bah, you over-estimate the importance of those Oilers. You've got internal lines AND you've learned that your opponent is likely to risk strategic assets to attack assets which are, given Japan's situation with internal SLOCs, of operational relevance, at best. You can use this against him.

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RE: Rising Sun, Shooting Star (Chez vs Canoerebel) - 2/26/2011 8:58:59 PM

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This is AE, Steve... he won't get any replacements for his early war carriers - at least not any that he won't receive anyway. That was a big change from WITP.

In our game I had the Australia en route to Rabaul when my aircraft identified one of your BBs so I reversed her course. I'm afraid that you may have become too used to my careful use of my vessels, leaving you open to someone who's more willing to throw the dice. I have faith that you will adjust...

Now, it's time for me to go to bed... way past, actually - but there was a good film on TNT.

I would agree with your assessment. You're not one to haphazardly risk your vessels so I may have become somewhat complacent. That mindset is changing fast. I'm in the process of combining the covering TFs with the invasion TFs where I can.

I do think his sending Louville and Adelaide was a nice move. He told me that he didn't know my TFs were in the area.

The Japanese have so little offensive firepower in Centpac in the early stages that covering these forces is difficult. The allies actually have as much, if not more, naval firepower in the area. But with it being scattered between Oz and NZ and other places, it's difficult for the allied player to mass enough strength soon enough to stop the landings.

I'm not too upset about losing the Tulagi force considering it was just a CM and an AK. Losing the ground unit hurts more in the short term but in the overall picture, it is minor. Losing the 1st Rabaul force does hurt much more but my troops are landing at Rabaul now. Another TF will arrive in two turns and then I will have enough AV to take the place. The new TF has a CL and several DDs as part of it so if he comes back, they will be able to inflict some damage in return... I hope.

Sending the Lex NW of Midway was a nice move also. Never anticipated my oilers being in danger so I took no great pains to protect them as they were simply on their way back to Japan.

I was under the impression that the allies still replaced lost carriers with Essex class one for one. Nice to know that. Hopefully he will send them out to be engaged.

Chez

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RE: Rising Sun, Shooting Star (Chez vs Canoerebel) - 2/26/2011 9:08:22 PM

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Bah, you over-estimate the importance of those Oilers. You've got internal lines AND you've learned that your opponent is likely to risk strategic assets to attack assets which are, given Japan's situation with internal SLOCs, of operational relevance, at best. You can use this against him.

As far as keeping the fleet supplied, that is correct. But the oilers represent nearly 80K capacity that I find extremely useful for moving oil and fuel around after the SRA falls. Japan cannot afford to lose any tankers or oilers. Replacements are few and far between. Even with internal SLOCs, tankers become extremely vulnerable to allied subs in 1943.

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11 Dec 1942 - 2/26/2011 10:05:56 PM

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A much quieter turn as I rest many of my aircraft and troops.

China: Another shock attack against Hong Kong brought down a fort at 1:1 odds. Casualties were about even. My bombers are bombing the troops at HK

Philippines:
And once again, Dan sent 2 PT TFs to Iba to disrupt the landings. They conducted 3 attacks, none of which caused any damage. One MTB was sunk. Perplexing as to why my 3 covering TFs in the hex didn't engage them. Still, he did manage to prevent the unloading of needed troops and supplies. Am thinking of generating a 4 ship DD TF in the hex to see if that helps. Troops are ashore at Iba but not insufficient strength to attack. Maybe next turn.

73 bombers with an escort of 74 Zeros blew through the defending fighters and raided Manila port again and scored 3 more hits on 2 AKs. At least 5 defenders were shot out of 27 engaged. Intel however tells me that 11 allied fighters actually went down. He must be down to only a handful by now.

Davao fell and bombers have relocated there.

SS KXIV put a torp into an AK loaded with troops near Laoag. It sank but the men were rescued. SS O20 also put 2 torps into a subchaser in the same area which blew her out of the water.

Zuiho found a couple of fleeing AKs and snak them SE of the PI.

I-123 putt 2 torps into an AK fleeing the PI and sank her.

Malaya:
My troops are unloading quickly at Kota Bharu. A Zero unit arrived there to provide additional cover. One of my armored units arrived at Georgetown and are waiting for additional forces before attacking. Alor Star is now cut off from Singapore. Intel indicates there about 10K troops there.

The Mersing force continues enroute after joining up with a large BB surface force. Additional engineers have be redirected to Kuantan as the airbase is only very slowly repairing and can't be used yet. Nearly all of my engineers at Kuantan are disabled.

His Malaya air forces have been considerably attrited I think. Only a couple of small air attacks against my ships with no hits scored. My CAP damaged several and shot two down.

Southern Resource Area:
AVD Childs led a charmed life. Twice engaged by a 2 DD TF near NE Borneo, she managed to slip away after suffering only a single hit each time. Weather was very poor with thunderstorms and 46% moonlight which only allowed spotting at 2000yds.

AP President Madison, on the other hand, wasn't so lucky. She was found by the same DD TF and sank under a hail of gunfire at 2000yds.

The Singkawang force has resumed its plodding trek towards its target. It now has 2 BBs and 4 CAs covering it.

CentPac:
CA Lousiville and CL Adelaide detected the rememants of the TF they destroyed yesterday at Rabaul. This time they withdrew without firing. Guess they figured DD Ushio and xAK Yae Maru were too heavily damaged to waste ammo on.

The allied cruisers then stumbled upon a single DD, the Sazanami. Sazanami managed to put a shell into each before extricating herself without damage. Lousiville fired only her secondary armament so I wonder if she is out of main gun ammo.

I-154 found the AP Rochambeau near Balikpapn and engaged her on the surface. I-154 was very roughly handled with 4 5" shell hits. She managed to score only one in return. She submerged due to damage. Flood damge is 46 so she is on her way back to port.

SS Snapper tried to sneak into Pescadores and ate a mine for her troubles.

Supplies continue to be unloaded at Wake but I will withdraw the TF even though they aren't empty yet. KB is now in position to cover their withdrawal as KB heads for the Solomons area.

No sign of Enterprise yet. My sole surviving DD from the oiler massacre sank during the night so my Lexington tripwire failed. Not sure where she went but you can be sure that KB is on guard.

EastPac:
I-23 missed the tanker Gulfland near Hawaii.

All in all, a good turn for me. Very few losses in the air and at sea while inflicting some good hits on Dan.

Next turn sees the arrival of several important TFs and a lot more air action is planned.

Chez

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 2/26/2011 10:38:45 PM

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"I was under the impression that the allies still replaced lost carriers with Essex class one for one. Nice to know that. Hopefully he will send them out to be engaged. "

Nawww... in AE we get all the Essex class carriers as they were built. We get the option of renaming the Lexington II, Yorktown II, Hornet II and Wasp II as we wish (so if I don't lose any of those you will first see a USS Constellation - after that I have to figure out some other decent names to use).

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 2/27/2011 12:16:05 AM

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"I was under the impression that the allies still replaced lost carriers with Essex class one for one. Nice to know that. Hopefully he will send them out to be engaged. "

Nawww... in AE we get all the Essex class carriers as they were built. We get the option of renaming the Lexington II, Yorktown II, Hornet II and Wasp II as we wish (so if I don't lose any of those you will first see a USS Constellation - after that I have to figure out some other decent names to use).

Slight embellishment: in stock scenarios you don't get in-class replacements. In the editor it's a one-box-checkoff to turn them on. I assume that was not done here, but it's easy to replicate WITP's scheme.

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RE: 12 Dec 1942 - 2/28/2011 8:26:01 PM

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Fairly quiet turn. LOts of small unit naval actions and air attacks. Troops continue landing at various points across the map.

China:
Another failed shock attack at Hong Kong. Odds were 1:2 and no forts brought down. Will rest them this turn. My bombers continue to atack his ground forces there with mixed results.

Philippines:

Iba falls! Troops continue to land at Iba without major interference. Dan sent his PTs to Iba again but they were prevented from engaging any transports by my DD TF. No losses either side. Vigan fell as did Batan Island. There is still one more troop TF with a significant number of troops enroute to Iba. They should land in two days. In the meantime, the runways at Iba are being repaired and my fighters and bombers will be moving in next turn.

His ships are fleeing the PI en masse. Several have headed towards Chi Chi Jima for what ever reason I don't know. Bettys from Yokohama attacked an AK and a tanker near Torishima sinking both. Very high hit rate: 7 torps for 9 Bettys. I am placing more aircraft in the home islands on naval attack... best training there is for them.

Two of my DDs returning to Takao to rearm stumbled across an AM and 2 tankers in the South China Sea. The AM and 1 tanker were sunk. The other tanker got away as the DDs ran out of ammo. 2 other small AKs were sunk in the same area by another DD force. I-158 put a torp into the AS Holland north of Kuching. Ryujo notched an AM near Jolo. Speaking of Jolo, troops are landing there now and will take the island next turn. A lot of my air power will transfer to there afterwards. Once in place, I intend to pay a visit to Cagayan. His B-17s are still there. He launched a small airraid with them but missed.

Fighter sweeps continue against Manila and Clark. His fighters on Luzon are just about wiped out. Dan lost 10 P-40s in exchange for 2 of mine. Air attacks against these tow bases were unmolested.

S-37 put 2 torps into an AP loaded with troops near Laoag. She sank but most of the troops were rescued. The sub got away.

Malaya:

Stingray attempted to penetrate the harbor at Cam Rahn Bay but sustained 3 hits in the effort. Believe she was trying to attack the Mersing TF waiting there. Search planes located an allied surface TF NW of Singkawang. The report says, "BB BB BB BB BB BB". This is probably Force Z with some cruisers added. My Singkawang invasion force will land next turn. They are heavily escorted with 2 BBs and 2 CAs and numerous DDs. In addition, there is a naval TF with 2 BBs, 4 CAs and 8 DDs following them. All are spotted so Dan my risk Force Z. All Bettys and Nells are on naval attack and hopefully will engage this force also.

Troops continue to land at Kot Bharu and Kuantan. Two Mersing TFs are in a holding pattern between Kuantan and Kota Bharu pending the developments around Singkawang. They will stay there until Kuantan is operational which should be next turn.

His air force has been silent this turn in Malaya though intel reports lots of bombers and fighters at Singers.

CentPac:

The CDs at Rabaul are beating up the invasion TF sinking two AKs but the troops are ashore though still insufficient strength to take the place. A much larger troop transport with 2 Inf Rgts aboard will arrive in 1-2 days to land at Rabaul. His pounding of my Tulagi and Rabaul invasion fleets two turns ago have drastically limited my options in this area. I have more troops on the way from the Home Islands but the timetable has been seriously upset in this area.

His Hudsons have been active but no results as yet.

My work schedule just got totally hosed as I need to pick up extra shift due to not having a replacement for a nurse that quit. Going to working 6 days a week. Will love the overtime but it will limit the time I can put into my games.

Chez

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/1/2011 9:33:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

"I was under the impression that the allies still replaced lost carriers with Essex class one for one. Nice to know that. Hopefully he will send them out to be engaged. "

Nawww... in AE we get all the Essex class carriers as they were built. We get the option of renaming the Lexington II, Yorktown II, Hornet II and Wasp II as we wish (so if I don't lose any of those you will first see a USS Constellation - after that I have to figure out some other decent names to use).

Slight embellishment: in stock scenarios you don't get in-class replacements. In the editor it's a one-box-checkoff to turn them on. I assume that was not done here, but it's easy to replicate WITP's scheme.

I think the manual says they'd get replaced by an Essex class one min 450 from sinking if they sank before 1/44. So its wrong? Good to know, Enterprise got too bold at Wake.

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/1/2011 4:50:13 PM

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"I was under the impression that the allies still replaced lost carriers with Essex class one for one. Nice to know that. Hopefully he will send them out to be engaged. "

Nawww... in AE we get all the Essex class carriers as they were built. We get the option of renaming the Lexington II, Yorktown II, Hornet II and Wasp II as we wish (so if I don't lose any of those you will first see a USS Constellation - after that I have to figure out some other decent names to use).

After some thought I decided to pass up on the "USS Whupass" and go with "Yellow Jacket" "Mud Dauber" "Black Widow" and "Bumble Bee"

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/1/2011 4:54:46 PM

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Nawww... in AE we get all the Essex class carriers as they were built. We get the option of renaming the Lexington II, Yorktown II, Hornet II and Wasp II as we wish (so if I don't lose any of those you will first see a USS Constellation - after that I have to figure out some other decent names to use).

I think it's an excellent opportunity to needle one's opponent with the next gen of Essex carriers that can be renamed. Were CR playing the Japs, I would strongly urge you to tap into his Southern Pride and needle him with the USS Sherman, USS Appomatox Courthouse, USS Grant and USS Gettysburg.

Alas, as an exclusive IJ player, I have not had the opportunity to do this.

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/1/2011 5:18:50 PM

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I think the manual says they'd get replaced by an Essex class one min 450 from sinking if they sank before 1/44. So its wrong? Good to know, Enterprise got too bold at Wake.

Here's my arrival queue in November 1943 in a modded scenario with replacements on. Enterprise and Hornet are coming back, and both are Yorktown class. Enterprise is listed as a 4/43 model and Hornet as a 7/42 model. I assume I'll need to do upgrades when they arrive. Original E. was lost in May 1942, and original Hornet in October 1942.

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/1/2011 5:20:21 PM

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I think it's an excellent opportunity to needle one's opponent with the next gen of Essex carriers that can be renamed. Were CR playing the Japs, I would strongly urge you to tap into his Southern Pride and needle him with the USS Sherman, USS Appomatox Courthouse, USS Grant and USS Gettysburg.

What, no USS Monitor?

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/1/2011 5:49:40 PM

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I think it's an excellent opportunity to needle one's opponent with the next gen of Essex carriers that can be renamed. Were CR playing the Japs, I would strongly urge you to tap into his Southern Pride and needle him with the USS Sherman, USS Appomatox Courthouse, USS Grant and USS Gettysburg.

What, no USS Monitor?

Naw. Too much of a 'draw' feel to the end of that match.

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/1/2011 7:38:52 PM

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Naw. Too much of a 'draw' feel to the end of that match.

Yeahbut CSA Virginia ended up blown to bits and burned, and USS Monitor ended up with hundreds of brothers, some with double accountrements. Ya gotta give props to proof of concept!

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 2:41:54 AM

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Naw. Too much of a 'draw' feel to the end of that match.

Yeahbut CSA Virginia ended up blown to bits and burned, and USS Monitor ended up with hundreds of brothers, some with double accountrements. Ya gotta give props to proof of concept!

Hmmm.... it seems to me that USS Monitor ended up sinking off Cape Hatteras... (southern weather took it down!).

A chunk of the CSS Virginia is sitting on a bookshelf in my living room.

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 1:37:26 PM

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Hmmm.... it seems to me that USS Monitor ended up sinking off Cape Hatteras... (southern weather took it down!).

A chunk of the CSS Virginia is sitting on a bookshelf in my living room.

I think Monitor was raised about ten years ago? At least attempted; I recall that the iron was pretty far gone.

Yes, the stack arrangement was bad for open sea operation. That was corrected in follow-on models. However, casemates were a dead-end design concept, although the CSA kept building them (and losing htem) through the war. The monitors served into the 20th C.

Turrets rule!

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 2:11:43 PM

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I think they managed to get the turret - everything else was pretty much gone.

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 3:10:02 PM

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There's a life sized replica here, plus the turret and other stuff is on display. Have a look around

Also some cool pics on this flickr account

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 4:15:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
Nawww... in AE we get all the Essex class carriers as they were built. We get the option of renaming the Lexington II, Yorktown II, Hornet II and Wasp II as we wish (so if I don't lose any of those you will first see a USS Constellation - after that I have to figure out some other decent names to use).

I think it's an excellent opportunity to needle one's opponent with the next gen of Essex carriers that can be renamed. Were CR playing the Japs, I would strongly urge you to tap into his Southern Pride and needle him with the USS Sherman, USS Appomatox Courthouse, USS Grant and USS Gettysburg.

Alas, as an exclusive IJ player, I have not had the opportunity to do this.

Hmmmm.. USS Saylers Creek, or better yet USS Five Forks?

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RE: 11 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 4:54:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
Nawww... in AE we get all the Essex class carriers as they were built. We get the option of renaming the Lexington II, Yorktown II, Hornet II and Wasp II as we wish (so if I don't lose any of those you will first see a USS Constellation - after that I have to figure out some other decent names to use).

I think it's an excellent opportunity to needle one's opponent with the next gen of Essex carriers that can be renamed. Were CR playing the Japs, I would strongly urge you to tap into his Southern Pride and needle him with the USS Sherman, USS Appomatox Courthouse, USS Grant and USS Gettysburg.

Alas, as an exclusive IJ player, I have not had the opportunity to do this.

Hmmmm.. USS Saylers Creek, or better yet USS Five Forks?

I was thinking USS Cold Harbor and USS Manassas...

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RE: 13 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 9:25:39 PM

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Just a quick update... A very bad turn for the Japanese owing to some allied daring and very poor management by the Japanese.

First, Dan sent a CA TF to Peleliu and encountered a large troop transport loading troops. He sank every single one... somewhere around 15 of them! What was really upsetting was that I had a BB cover force at Babeldaod trying (and failing) to refuel.

Then a reinforced Force Z slipped right by my BB cover force in the same hex and found my Singakawan invasion force. The invasion force had 2 CAs, 2 CLs, 4 DDs and several DMS/TB ships as escorts. 2 IJN CLs, a couple of smaller escorts and 5 merchants sank before the TF successfully disengaged.

My Bettys and Nells flew. The Bettys put a torp each into POW and Repulse but I had neglected to set the Nells to torpedoes after their bombing missions in Malaya. All bombs missed.

Worse was yet to come. Dan sent another CA TF to Rabaul and encountered 2 troop TFs. The first consisited of a total of 2 small escorts and 5 merchants. It was smothered by a hail of gunfire. The second TF of 9 troop ships was UNESCORTED owing to a huge mistake made by my. I had set a CL cover force to merge with the TF before arriving at Rabaul however I must have mistakingly canceled that order as the cover TF began a withdrawal to Truk leaving the TF unguarded.

I was very pissed and frustrated with my play and sent Dan an email questioning his tactics concerning the raid on Peleliu and his fleeing ships in home island waters. I very much regretted that and sent Dan an email apologizing for taking my frustration out on him. He did nothing wrong. The fleeing ships in home islands waters was a mistake that he made by forgetting to redirect them once clear of the PI. I believe him.

Anyways, the war continues.

Chez

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RE: 14 Dec 1942 - 3/2/2011 9:28:24 PM

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Some success at last!!!

I-171 put 2 torps into CV Enterprise south of Hilo!!! Don't know how badly damaged she is but she should be out of the way for a month or more. I have several submarines moving to intercept should he try to take her to Pearl.

Otherwise it was a quiet turn as I draw back in all other theaters and reorganize my invasion forces for better protection

Chez

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RE: 15 Dec 1942 - 3/4/2011 5:46:13 PM

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Things are going a bit better at the moment. Most of my invasion forces have been withdrawn for reorganization and are only awaiting the arrival of strong escorts. Turns should be fairly quiet for a couple of days.

The Mersing invasion force is gathering at Cam Rahn Bay. Nearly 1000Av in 5 TFs will be landed and will be supported by 6 BBs and Baby KB. I anticipate 4 more days before they are good to go.

Dan moved a large infantry force into Iba in the PI after being kicked out of there. My troops attempted to kick them back out but suffered slight set back with a 1:2 attack. Dan also launched an attack that was repulsed at 1:2 odds so neither one of us is currently strong enough to evict the other.

The 65th BDE is landing there now and should help the situation. Dan must have must moved these troops from Bataan. Too bad I can't take advantage by moving forces into Bataan but I hope to maul his troops and make it more difficult when he does retreat to Bataan. My bombers have stepped up efforts to disrupt his troops there. Dan has begun sending small numbers of B-17Ds against Iba and as is expected, my Zeros are having a hard time with them.

I am considering rerouting my southern SRA invasion forces to the PI to speed things up. Haven't decided yet.

Malaysia is fairly quiet as my troops begin moving down the penninsula with just small skirmishes occurring to remove blcocking forces.

I landed an aviation COY at Amchitka and will send patrol planes up there to guard the back door.

A sweep of 15 Zeros against Rangoon encountered 26 AVG planes and 3 Buffalos. 6 H81-A3s and 2 Buffalos were shot down for the loss of 2 Zeros. AVG is slowly be whittled down.

On the naval front, RO-63 put a torp into CA Pensacola near Suva causing heavy damage. No sign that she sank though.

I-171 continues to spar with Enterprise's escorts south of Hilo. She put 2 torps into the CA Northampton and I believe she sank. No sign of Enterprise herself though. I have 4 subs patrolling the most logical route to PH so hopefully will find her again. Her escorts have to low on ASW ammo.

Dan has sent out several ASW TFs to patrol around PH and they are doing well keeping my sub's heads down but I-175 did manage to torp and sink the AMc Condor.

Several fleeing allied ships were sunk in the South China Sea subs and surface TFs.

My losses to date have been horrible due to poor play and a failure to protect invasion forces. Commander in Chief NiceGuy has been fired and replaced with CinC EvilDude. I hope to do much better this coming week.

Chez

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RE: 15 Dec 1942 - 3/4/2011 5:53:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez
Commander in Chief NiceGuy has been fired and replaced with CinC EvilDude. I hope to do much better this coming week.

Chez

That's the spirit!

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RE: 16 Dec 1942 - 3/4/2011 6:00:09 PM

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Dan reacted to my Amchitka landing much more quickly than I expected. I suspect that he had these 5 DDs heading for the Sea of Ohkosk to do some raiding. He ran up against the CL Kitakami and 2 DDs escorting one AP. My forces were able to hold him off but the AP suffered heavy fires. No danger of sinking though. One of his DDs, the Hatfield was heavily damaged and another on fire. DD Sawakaze was the only warship hit for minor damage. This TF has accomplished its mission and is withdrawing. Still has some supply onboard but Amchitka has 2500 landed so should be ok for now.

I-171 continues to play cat and mouse with Enterprise's escorts. Since she torped the Enterprise 2 days ago, she has undergone 7 ASW attacks for only minor damage. I wish I could say that was true of some om my other submarines. I-6 has taken a pounding this turn and must withdraw due to moderate damage. At least she put a fish into one of her tormentors, the DD Litchfield north of Hilo.

One of my Lily units went to Iba unescorted (despite having 20 Zeros on CAP at the base) and was slaughtered by 5 P-40s and 2 P-26s. Eleven Lilys went down.

Georgetown fell. It's starting to look like Dan is retreating quickly down the Malayan peninsula. I may not be able to trap him at Mersing if I don't get going so the invasion TFs will begin moving in that direction but they will not land until naval and air support is present.

I have a new invasion force due to land at Rabaul next turn. 1 BB and 4 CAs with 8 DDs make up the escort. No covering force this time. All warships are part of the invasion force. I dare Dan to strike again. Rabaul will fall!

Chez

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RE: 16 Dec 1942 - 3/4/2011 6:16:42 PM

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Against aggressive allied response to ops i have 2 types of ops -

Quick ones, unload turn of arrival only and then get out. Stop unloading and get out. If not spotted these can't be stopped. If spotted turn back prior to landing.
Covered Ones, with navy ships in amphib force and a separate covering force. You will start killing the allied navy.

I also teach my mother to suck eggs.

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RE: 16 Dec 1942 - 3/5/2011 1:52:03 AM

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"I am considering rerouting my southern SRA invasion forces to the PI to speed things up. Haven't decided yet."

I don't think that this is an area where you should second guess yourself, unless your troops are in danger of being kicked off Luzon. Your original plan was to put just enough troops on Luzon to tie him up while you pressed on past the Philippines. Do you think that you are not going to be able to fulfill those original plans?

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