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RE: "Z" - 2/28/2011 1:47:20 PM

janh

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In fact too bad that KB was just a couple of miles too far west. Could have been a terrible awakening for Andy's battlewagons, though it probably would also have hurt your air wings if Andy had his CVs still capping them. Maybe better this way. Although his amphibious and supply convoys are the strategic target, his carriers probably should to be targeted first.

Now that KB is sighted, Andy will either become a little careful, or will come out hunting. For a quick moment I thought about suggesting to hide KB somewhere on Java, and what for the right moment to hit Andy's CVs from the rear during his next move (I would bet on a reinforcement/resupply of W, or perhaps more likely now: another amphib ops against Timor or so). But he will likely have picket ships that will draw your naval strikes, and a make surprise flanking move impossible. Alternatively, a preemptive strike with the carriers against Andy's supply lines (those towards Port Hedland?) might be an option, but likely also a waste since it will get attrited by allied LBA. Well, probably might be best to withdraw the CV into the shadows again, though waiting for Andy to exert the initiative ain't striking me as a particularly clever move either. Really a though problem now...

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RE: "Z" - 2/28/2011 3:21:43 PM

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you are doing very well PzB. you sink some of his ships each turn without losing any of your capital ships. sooner or later it must have an effect to his transport capacity in the region. it was bad luck that your carriers were not in strike range of andys BB-TF. i dont think that he had any sort of CAp flying over his BB-TF. i mean someone who even forgets to add radar! into an invasion TF will not do this kind of micromanagement to set LRCAP on ships out of range of your LBA.

pull the KB back...the next opportunity to strike something with the KB will come for sure since it seems that andy will try to stay at w...whatever

and try to hold the base. you are in the better position with heavy LBA in the region, a intact carrier fleet, your highspeed bombardment runs and your light surface forces killing allied transport capacity every turn.#

banzai! banzai! banzai!

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RE: "Z" - 2/28/2011 5:22:57 PM

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Well, one more such operation, and Allies will have no undamaged heavy warships

Use the airforce on ground attacks. Daily BBs bombard (at day maybe?) should quickly disable most of Allied units. I have actually different experiences with naval bombardment. No matter of range, I always hit lots of planes.
Anyway, just try to get little closer, to also use larger DD guns.
Just remember about HQs. Also, some independent AT units can deal with tanks.

Also, remember, that LRCAP over TFs are less effective. I think, over CVs is even less, than over normal ships.

And set some BETTYs on maximum range night attack. Maybe your SSs will catch some retreating cripples.

Oh, about those transport caught by your subs. Are they lonely, and unescorted? Where are those catches?

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RE: "Z" - 2/28/2011 6:54:27 PM

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Use subs to generate sightings near W and put a few units on night nav attack as suggested. The key is getting the night phase sightings so the planes launch. See Capt Cruft's Downfall AAR for his tactics to accomplish this. Subs on transport mission with timid captains don't attack but will radio the airfields.

You could try to slip KB through the Sunda Strait and come at Andy from the West, but for obvious reasons this could be a high risk move. Just something to think about for the right set of circumstances.

Isolate W from supplies and the base will fall. If the SLoC can't be closed, Andy will eventually kick the door open.

Andy has an astonishing willingness to incur casualties. Are we sure he wasn't a Soviet general in a past life?

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RE: "Z" - 2/28/2011 7:21:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Edge of the seat action.� BANZAI!!!!

Ditto +1 ..

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RE: "Z" - 2/28/2011 10:56:45 PM

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Turn is finally back to Andy; takes a loong time to set up everything every single turn...need to get a deputy

Thx guys, really appreciate all good advice & input!

Waingapo will be quiet for a little while when Andy replenish his fleets.
Nothing more to hunt back south within LBA range so we may as well move back to Soerabaja to replenish ourselves.
Having that fuel depot so close is a blessing; much better than near Line Islands.

Have used to opportunity to restock Christmas Island with fuel; when enemy subs and carriers return it will be much more difficult restock.
After going over our troop dispositions I've identified another 3 divisions that can be moved to Waingapo; this means moving regiments in to cover for divisions
defending certain bases but I doubt Andy will invade Rabaul or Hong Kong anytime soon. Also looking up another 2 HQs including an Area Army.

_If_ we remain in a favorable position at Waingapoe a ground campaign will be started.
Most of our other bases are fairly well protected and we have most of our air support in place so it's possible to move LBA both north and east if required to.

When I returned some midgets to the pool they just dissappeared so I'm not to keen on moving midgets and without their mother subs that's a complicated process
and in enemy hexes they run out of fuel on their own very quickly.

Our LBA is quickly getting back to strength, but another week or so would do miracles!
Enemy 4Es are hitting Memboro, need to switch Nicks, Tonys and George's to CAP to reduce their numbers.
Think many of the fly at extended range; must be hard to keep operational and supplied.

I've had crack naval bombers on naval night attack for many turns and our subs and TFs have continously connected with enemy ships.
The only reaction have been "RTB because of poor weather". Think range is a bit long, 1-5 hexes is more optimal for night attack me thinks?

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RE: "Z" - 2/28/2011 11:22:51 PM

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Yes, the intercepts are harder to make at night. Cpt Cruft was hitting the enemy about 5hexes off Formosa IIRC.

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RE: "Z" - 3/1/2011 5:14:25 PM

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So, does all your damaged ships safely reached ports?
Japan lost, like 1 Cruiser, and 4 Destroyers?
While Allies "2 Carriers, Battleship, and numerous cruisers, and destroyers"? (actually no CVs, but 2 extra BBs)

Check the morale of air units. I yet have to see reduction in Japan fighter unit, but bombers are vulnerable. You can probably rotate them.
Also, if Allies will try to pump out water, before reaching Perth, it would be interesting, for Yamato, to pay visit in small-port rescuing operation.

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ORIGINAL: PzB
When I returned some midgets to the pool they just dissappeared so I'm not to keen on moving midgets and without their mother subs that's a complicated process
and in enemy hexes they run out of fuel on their own very quickly.

They works like planes, when you disband them, it takes some time to reappear in pool. Also, they spent fuel in weird way. Sometimes they just hover in hex, and spent no fuel. You can not refuel them at sea, but sometimes they are refuelled, when your TF was in the hex during turn. Anyway, even without fuel they will attack, and they accumulate damage very slowly (and you can disband damaged).

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RE: "Z" - 3/1/2011 6:53:59 PM

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Yes, more or less Inq. Look at list over damaged Jap ships below.
We lost CA Furutaka early on, a CL at Darwin and another later. So 1 CA, 2 CL and 4-5 DDs have been lost so far.
The list of damaged ships has grown though; good to see the Mutsu and Tone doing so well after taking such a beating.

I have managed to dent morale of Samurai pilots

- I did return the midgets to the pools months ago; instead of becoming available after 14 days they've gone AWOL!

Andy keeps his carriers just north of Broome.
4Es are put on naval attack; they go after a surface combat TF over Waingapoe and don't hit anything but CAP.

Without knowing it the KB had to stay nearly stationary this turn as most ships had replenished during the high speed dash

Ops were sky high, movement down to 1/0...Not sure what would have happened if Andy had attacked.

Had a bad time thinking about it, so much that I couldn't sleep last nigh and had to get up and run the turn

All is well fortunately!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 12, 43

Sub Attacks

We loose a couple of subs today but finish off the CL Durban, an LST and a cargo ship!

ASW attack near San Francisco at 214,78

Japanese Ships
SS I-35, hits 18, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DMS Dorsey
DMS Boggs
APA Feland
APD Little
APD Manley
AK Naos
AK Sculptor
TK Paul Shoup
TK Tide Water
TK Tide Penn
TK Axtell J Byles
LCI-329
LCI-328
xAK Autolycus
xAK Whangpu
xAK Penrith Castle
xAK Lydia M. Child
xAK Juan de Fuca
xAK James M. Goodhue
xAK Christopher Greenup
xAK Lewis Luckenbach
DD Warrington
DE Wileman
SC-641
SC-638

SS I-35 is sighted by escort
DD Warrington attacking submerged sub ....
DE Wileman attacking submerged sub ....
SC-641 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC-638 fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Warrington attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub
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Sub attack near Port Hedland at 57,129

Japanese Ships
SS I-25

Allied Ships
CL Durban, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

CL Durban is sighted by SS I-25
SS I-25 launches 6 torpedoes
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Submarine attack near Port Hedland at 58,128

Japanese Ships
SS I-16

Allied Ships
LST-339, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

LST-339 is sighted by SS I-16
SS I-16 launches 2 torpedoes
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Submarine attack near Port Hedland at 59,125

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
AK Eridanus, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

AK Eridanus is sighted by SS I-21
SS I-21 launches 6 torpedoes at AK Eridanus
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Submarine attack near Port Hedland at 58,127

Japanese Ships
SS I-21, hits 19, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD MacDonough
DD Dashiell
DD Carmick
DD Schroeder

SS I-21 is located by DD MacDonough
I-21 bottoming out ....
DD MacDonough fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Carmick fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Carmick fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Carmick attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-21 forced to surface!
DD Schroeder firing on surfaced sub ....
DD MacDonough firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
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Surface Combat

12 PT boats sunk for hits on an old CL...which just might make it.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Endeh at 65,114, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAP Umezaki Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT-252
PT-254
PT-256
PT-330
PT-331
PT-332
PT-333
PT-334, Shell hits 1
PT-335

Improved night sighting under 96% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 96% moonlight: 8,000 yards
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Memboro at 64,112, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
CA Nachi
CL Agano
CL Tatsuta, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shiranui
DD Hagikaze
DD Shirakumo
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
PT-288, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-295, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-296, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PT-297, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-298
PT-299, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-300, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT-301, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-322, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Task forces break off...
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Waingapoe at 63,113, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CL Agano
DD Shiranui
DD Hagikaze
DD Shirakumo
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
PT-247, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-249
PT-250
PT-251
PT-323
PT-325
PT-326
PT-328

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 19,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Waingapoe at 63,113, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CL Agano
DD Shiranui
DD Hagikaze
DD Shirakumo
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
PT-264
PT-277
PT-278, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-279, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-280
PT-281, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 18,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Waingapoe at 63,113
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 9
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
Hurricane XIIb x 3
B-17E Fortress x 17
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24D Liberator x 17
B-24D1 Liberator x 10
B-24J Liberator x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 5
P-40N1 Warhawk x 1
P-40N5 Warhawk x 12
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CL Agano
DD Shirakumo
DD Sagiri

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
5 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
2 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Waingapoe at 63,113
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 20
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane XIIb x 1
B-17E Fortress x 4
B-24D1 Liberator x 4
P-39N1 Airacobra x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 4
P-40N1 Warhawk x 1
P-40N5 Warhawk x 7
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane XIIb: 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Naval Attack: 10 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 12000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Attacks and losses

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RE: "Z" - 3/1/2011 10:46:40 PM

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Example of a typical Operational report:
It's so packed with reports that I often miss important information, see highlighted.
Need to use Tracker to get a better overview but when the clock chimes midnight it's often hard to find time for it.

OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR Oct 12, 43

SS I-173 reports having been sighted by the enemy at 62 , 119
SS I-16 reports having been sighted by the enemy at 57 , 127
TF 216 awaiting loading at Davao
Task Force 228 has merged with TF 249 at 55 , 115
Task Force 318 has merged with TF 59 at 56 , 116
TK Tennan Maru collides with TK Zuiyo Maru at 61 , 84
ASW Combat TF 82 resumes patrol, enroute to 64 , 84 near Miri
Repairs completed on E Tsushima at Yokohama/Yokosuka, ship returned to service
No additional repairs possible on AD Gyoko Maru
using currently assigned resources at Saipan
No additional repairs possible on AKE Kato Maru
using currently assigned resources at Rangoon
Repairs completed on DD Akebono at Singapore, ship returned to service
No additional repairs possible on PB Minowa Maru
using currently assigned resources at Miri
No additional repairs possible on PB Fukuei Maru
using currently assigned resources at Miri
No additional repairs possible on SC CHa-10
using currently assigned resources at Miri
No additional repairs possible on PB Kanko Maru
using currently assigned resources at Batavia
No additional repairs possible on xAK Neikai Maru
using currently assigned resources at Balikpapan
TF 158 leaving patrol zone to rearm at Balikpapan
CS Convoy TF 110 begins loading Resources at Hakodate for delivery to Hirosaki/Aomori
TF 216 awaiting loading at Davao
Escort TF 72 (2 ships) formed from TF 55 and routed to Memboro
Surface Combat TF 35 resumes patrol, enroute to 79 , 72 near San Fernando
Previous report of sinking of CL Durban incorrect. Ship sighted and engaged at 57, 129
Ki-49-IIb Helen reports shadow in water at 58, 106 near Pamekasan
Ki-49-IIb Helen reports possible submarine at 56, 109 near Denpasar
F1M2 Pete sighting report: 2 Allied ships at 104,59 near Oita, speed 14, Moving Northwest
E13A1 Jake reports object near surface at 101, 59 near Nagasaki/Sasebo
J1N1-C Irving reports radio transmissions at 49, 42 near Diamond Harbour
Ki-21-IIa Sally sighting report: 8 Allied ships at 68,94 near Tandjoengselor, speed 11, Moving Southwest
D4Y1 Judy from 932 Ku T-2 has spotted PT-264 at 64,112
Sighting report: 9 Allied ships at 65,113 near Endeh , Speed 8 , Moving Northeast
D4Y1 Judy from 932 Ku T-2 has spotted a Elco 80ft PT class PT at 65,113
Ki-48-IIa Lily reports conning tower at 95, 67 near Naha
G3M3 Nell reports shape below surface at 58, 106 near Pamekasan
H6K4 Mavis sighting report: 6 Allied ships at 130,55 near Uruppu-jima, speed 15, Moving East
D4Y1 Judy from Akagi-2 has spotted a Huckins 78ft PT class PT at 63,113
E13A1 Jake sighting report: 2 Allied ships at 110,124 near Lihir, speed 16, Moving West
Ki-49-IIa Helen reports suspected submarine at 61, 107 near Sepandjang
SS I-25 shadowed by Allied Dive Bomber at 57,129 near Port Hedland
TF 71 detected by Allied Heavy Bomber at 71,112 near Alor
Allied Aircraft sighted over Gove
Allied Aircraft sighted over Palmyra
Allied Aircraft sighted over Magwe
Allied Recon sighted over Gove
Allied Fighter sighted over Palmyra
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
D4Y1 Judy from 956 Ku T-1 on CVL Shoho grounded due to maintenance
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
Damaged Ki-44-IIb Tojo from 47th Sentai is missing, pilot reported killed
Ki-45 KAIb Nick from 52nd I.F.Chutai crashes on landing
Ki-45 KAIb Nick from 52nd I.F.Chutai is damaged on landing
Ki-44-IIb Tojo from 47th Sentai is damaged on landing
H8K2 Emily from 851 Ku T-1 Det at Port Blair grounded due to maintenance
Ki-46-III Dinah from 50th I.F.Chutai at Sabang grounded due to maintenance
Ki-45 KAIb Nick from 52nd I.F.Chutai is damaged on landing
Ki-48-IIa Lily from 6th Sentai/A is damaged on landing
N1K1-J George from 381 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
G3M3 Nell from 752 Ku K-1/C crashes on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 265th Sentai crashes on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from Junyo-1 is damaged on landing
E13A1 Jake from Chiyoda-2 crashes on landing
N1K1-J George from 381 Ku S-1 is written off
Ki-44-IIa Tojo from 9th Sentai is damaged on landing
J1N1-C Irving from 151 Ku T-1/B at Tulagi grounded due to maintenance
Ki-44-IIb Tojo from 47th Sentai is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 crashes on landing
E13A1 Jake sighting report: 6 Allied ships at 141,133 near Nikunau, speed 11, Moving West
Ki-49-IIb Helen reports suspected submarine at 58, 106 near Pamekasan
E7K2 Alf reports object under water at 110, 57 near Maizuru
Ki-21-IIa Sally reports radio transmissions at 64, 100 near Balikpapan
E7K2 Alf reports submarine at 119, 58 near Sendai
D4Y1 Judy from 932 Ku T-2 has spotted PT-298 at 63,113
PT-298 is reported HIT
Ki-48-IIa Lily reports oil slick at 94, 66 near Naha
Ki-48-IIa Lily reports radio transmissions at 97, 66 near Okinoerabushima
Ki-48-IIa Lily reports radio transmissions at 98, 64 near Amami Oshima
G3M3 Nell reports submarine wake at 58, 106 near Pamekasan
D4Y1 Judy from Akagi-2 has spotted LST-338 at 59,125
D4Y1 Judy from Akagi-2 has spotted PT-249 at 64,112
PT-249 is reported HIT
E13A1 Jake reports oil slick at 58, 107 near Denpasar
TF 309 detected by Allied Aircraft at 55,115 near Denpasar
TF 59 sighted by Allied Level Bomber at 55,115 near Denpasar
TF 59 detected by Allied Recon at 55,115 near Denpasar
Allied Recon sighted over Wessel Islands
Allied Aircraft sighted over Palmyra
Allied Recon sighted over Magwe
Allied Aircraft sighted over 2nd RTA/B Division
Allied Torpedo Bomber sighted over 2nd RTA/B Division
Allied Aircraft sighted over Wessel Islands
Allied Aircraft sighted over Palmyra
Allied Fighter Bomber sighted over Chiang Mai
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
H6K5 Mavis from 15th Ku T-1 /A is damaged on landing
G3M3 Nell from 755 Ku K-1 at Port Blair grounded due to maintenance
Pilot killed in landing accident of A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1
D4Y1 Judy from Unryu-2 on CV Unryu grounded due to maintenance
Ki-46-III Dinah from 83rd I.F.Chutai/A at Lashio grounded due to maintenance
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 crashes on landing
Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 265th Sentai is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
H6K5 Mavis from 801 Ku T-1 at Fanning Island grounded due to maintenance
H6K5 Mavis from 15th Ku T-1 /B at Port Blair grounded due to maintenance
Ki-45 KAIb Nick from 52nd I.F.Chutai is damaged on landing
H8K2 Emily from 801 Ku T-1 Det at Penrhyn Island grounded due to maintenance
Pilot killed in landing accident of Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 265th Sentai
Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 54th Sentai Det A is damaged on landing
Pilot killed in landing accident of Ki-46-III Dinah from 83rd I.F.Chutai/A
Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 265th Sentai is damaged on landing
27 x L3Y2 Tina transporting 38th Ind. Engineer Regiment to Endeh
9 x Ki-56 Thalia transporting 36th Const Co to Dobo
9 x Ki-49-II KAI Helen transporting 47th Road Const Co from Woodlark Island
2 x H8K2-L Emily transporting supplies to Sawoe-eilanden
9 x Ki-57-II Topsy transporting supplies to Sawoe-eilanden
2 x H6K4-L Mavis transporting supplies to Sawoe-eilanden
1 x H6K4-L Mavis transporting supplies to Sawoe-eilanden
21 x Ki-56 Thalia transporting supplies to Sawoe-eilanden
25 x Ki-56 Thalia transporting supplies to Sawoe-eilanden
9 x Ki-49-II KAI Helen transporting supplies to Pantar
9 x Ki-56 Thalia transporting supplies to Pantar
Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 265th Sentai is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 265th Sentai is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
Ki-43-IIb Oscar from 54th Sentai Det A is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
Ki-45 KAIb Nick from 52nd I.F.Chutai is damaged on landing
Ki-44-IIb Tojo from 1st Sentai crashes on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from Yamada Det S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 crashes on landing
A6M5 Zero from 281 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from Yamada Det S-1 is damaged on landing
A6M5 Zero from 252 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
No additional repairs possible on AD Gyoko Maru
using currently assigned resources at Saipan
No additional repairs possible on AKE Kato Maru
using currently assigned resources at Rangoon
No additional repairs possible on PB Minowa Maru
using currently assigned resources at Miri
No additional repairs possible on PB Fukuei Maru
using currently assigned resources at Miri
No additional repairs possible on SC CHa-10
using currently assigned resources at Miri
No additional repairs possible on PB Kanko Maru
using currently assigned resources at Batavia
No additional repairs possible on xAK Neikai Maru
using currently assigned resources at Balikpapan
TF 1 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 13 leaving patrol zone to refuel at Singapore
TF 56 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 58 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 82 leaving patrol zone to refuel at Singapore
TF 90 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 141 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 155 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 180 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 191 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 196 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
TF 216 does not have enough fuel to complete mission
CS Convoy TF 91 begins loading Resources at Palembang for delivery to Singapore
CS Convoy TF 142 begins loading Resources at Amami Oshima for delivery to Kagoshima
CS Convoy TF 276 begins loading Resources at Hakodate for delivery to Niigata
Ulithi expands fortifications to size 4
Tsiaotso expands fortifications to size 4
Pakanbaroe expands fortifications to size 2
Isuzu-1 at Palembang takes E15K1 Norm replacements
266th Sentai at Soerabaja takes Ki-49-IIa Helen replacements
85th Sentai converting to Ki-44-IIb Tojo
Pilot Abe C. is reported as to have escaped capture
Pilot Komachi V. is reported as having been found
Delayed planes for the aircraft pool:
5 (10) x A5M4 Claude, 23 (3) x A6M5 Zero, 1 (1) x E8N2 Dave, 1 (2) x G4M1 Betty
2 (1) x Ki-43-IIb Oscar, 20 (42) x Ki-44-IIa Tojo, 7 (5) x Ki-44-IIb Tojo, 3 (4) x Ki-49-Ia Helen
2 (6) x Ki-49-IIa Helen, 1 (2) x Ki-49-IIb Helen
Shimamoto, Mantaro now available for reassignment
Loss of SS I-21 on Oct 12, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SS I-35 on Oct 12, 1943 is admitted
CL Durban is reported to have been sunk near Port Hedland on Oct 12, 1943
AK Eridanus is reported to have been sunk near Port Hedland on Oct 12, 1943
LST-339 is reported to have been sunk near Port Hedland on Oct 12, 1943
PT-247 is reported to have been sunk near Waingapoe on Oct 12, 1943
PT-278 is reported to have been sunk near Waingapoe on Oct 12, 1943
PT-279 is reported to have been sunk near Waingapoe on Oct 12, 1943
PT-281 is reported to have been sunk near Waingapoe on Oct 12, 1943
PT-288 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
PT-295 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
PT-296 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
PT-297 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
PT-299 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
PT-300 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
PT-301 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
PT-322 is reported to have been sunk near Memboro on Oct 12, 1943
Loss of xAP Umezaki Maru on Oct 12, 1943 is admitted
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Plans for next turn

KB to refuel at Soerabaja
Destroyers to sweep Waingapoe
Heavy bombardment force to hit Waingapoe during daylight protectec by CAP and its heavy armor.

25 more days until another carrier arrives.

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RE: "Z" - 3/1/2011 11:21:36 PM

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I've noted very little, in your combat updates, about his subs attacking your shipping. Am I missing something or are they not there?

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RE: "Z" - 3/1/2011 11:48:43 PM

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They're there..but remember that Helen unit you're so fond of near Fiji?
- I got a lot more near Andy's subs

Ki-49-IIa Helen reports radio transmissions at 58, 110 near Denpasar
Ki-49-IIa Helen reports periscope wake at 59, 107 near Sepandjang
Ki-49-IIa Helen reports possible submarine at 58, 106 near Pamekasan
Ki-49-IIa Helen from 6th Close Supp.Unit attacking an Allied SS at 58,110
an Allied SS is reported HIT
Ki-49-IIa Helen reports radio transmissions at 59, 107 near Sepandjang
Ki-49-IIa Helen reports object near surface at 58, 106 near Pamekasan
Ki-49-IIa Helen from 6th Close Supp.Unit attacking a KVIII Class class SS at 58,110
a KXIV Class class SS is reported HIT
Ki-49-IIa Helen reports object near surface at 58, 110 near Denpasar

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 6:13:48 AM

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quote:

It's so packed with reports that I often miss important information, see highlighted.
Need to use Tracker to get a better overview but when the clock chimes midnight it's often hard to find time for it.

OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR Oct 12, 43

TK Tennan Maru collides with TK Zuiyo Maru at 61 , 84

A handy trick is when everything else is wrapped up bring up the S(hips) menu and click on float damage to sort by float. Anything that's at sea and has float damage has collided, been bombed by naval search, or whatever. You can click to locate the TF and then detach the damaged ship(s) for a return to a nearby port.

Tracker's great too but in terms of looking for collisions, etc. the in-game tools work fine.

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 8:23:30 AM

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That's true Erstad; I try to do it whenever I remeber it!
Especially subs are difficult to keep track off..as well as convoys running awol and low on fuel.

In the post today I included the many ASW reports; it's not like US subs are not active but I try to treat them with extreme prejudice!
My main objective for this turn was two fold:

1. Destroy enemy PT boats - a qualified success
2. Get the KB safely back to port - also a success even though it potentially could have developed into a dangerous situation

Enemy bombers hit Memboro today; poor weather and CAP handled them nicely and we inflicted heavy losses on enemy bombers and fighters. I have long time identified Memboro as a "Schwerpunkt" and we now got lots of engineers in place to repair battle damage. It's only the Allied carriers that can provide relief for the poor invaders of Waingapo!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 13, 43

Sub ASW Attacks

ASW attack near Sepandjang at 60,107

Japanese Ships
E W-14

Allied Ships
SS Kingfish

SS Kingfish is located by E W-14
Kingfish diving deep ....
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-14 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Port Hedland at 59,126

Japanese Ships
SS I-9, hits 7

Allied Ships
DD Eaton
CA Baltimore
CL Columbia
CL Cleveland
CL St. Louis
CLAA Juneau
CLAA Atlanta
DD O'Bannon
DD Fullam
DD Foote
DD Aaron Ward
DD Monssen
DD Thatcher
DD Ringgold

SS I-9 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Eaton
DD Aaron Ward attacking submerged sub ....
DD Monssen fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Thatcher fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Ringgold fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Aaron Ward fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Thatcher fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thatcher attacking submerged sub ....
DD Thatcher fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thatcher attacking submerged sub ....
DD Thatcher attacking submerged sub ....
DD Thatcher loses contact with SS I-9
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Denpasar at 56,109

Japanese Ships
DD Naganami
CA Haguro
CA Myoko
CL Kitakami
CL Sendai
DD Nowaki
DD Hayanami

Allied Ships
SS Snook

SS Snook launches 6 torpedoes at DD Naganami
Snook diving deep ....
DD Nowaki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hayanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hayanami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hayanami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hayanami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hayanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Banjoewangi at 57,107

Japanese Ships
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
SS Plunger, hits 7

SS Plunger is sighted by escort
Plunger bottoming out ....
DD Yunagi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yunagi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yunagi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Sub attack near Mataram at 61,108

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Yamato
BB Haruna
CA Chokai
CL Kinu
DD Asashio
DD Onami
DD Tadeyame
DD Suruyame

Allied Ships
SS Kingfish, hits 2

SS Kingfish launches 6 torpedoes at BB Kirishima
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suruyame fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tadeyame attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tadeyame fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Pamekasan at 58,106

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 26
SC Ch 16
SC Ch 34
SC Ch 32

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier

SS Grenadier is located by SC Ch 26
Grenadier diving deep ....
SC Ch 34 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 32 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 34 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Pamekasan at 58,106

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 32
SC Ch 26
SC Ch 16
SC Ch 34

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier, hits 2

SS Grenadier is located by SC Ch 32
Grenadier diving deep ....
SC Ch 34 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 34 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 34 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 34 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 34 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 34 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub
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Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Waingapoe at 63,113, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Myojinami
DD Hikokaze

Allied Ships
PT-252
PT-254, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-256
PT-330
PT-331
PT-332
PT-333
PT-334
PT-335

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 100% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Waingapoe at 63,113, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Myojinami
DD Hikokaze

Allied Ships
PT-262, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-263, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT-336
PT-337, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-338
PT-339, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-340, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 100% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Waingapoe at 63,113, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Myojinami
DD Hikokaze

Allied Ships
PT-249, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
PT-250, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-251, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PT-264, Shell hits 3, on fire
PT-277
PT-280, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-325, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-328, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 100% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Memboro , at 63,112
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 27
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 47
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24
B-24D Liberator x 26
B-24D1 Liberator x 20
B-24J Liberator x 14
P-38H Lightning x 14
P-39N1 Airacobra x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 7
P-40N1 Warhawk x 3
P-40N5 Warhawk x 22
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 4 damaged
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
P-38H Lightning: 3 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40N1 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 21
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Morning Air attack on Memboro , at 63,112
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 33
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
P-38G Lightning x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 4
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Memboro , at 63,112
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 15
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 9:09:23 AM

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As my current game is around the same time like yours and Andy�s (3 days earlier) some numbers for you to boost your morale:

You killed around half of Andy�s P38H, two third of his P38G, more than half of his p47, a little more than half of his F4U-1 (out of production now) and F4U-1A started the production this month. Does not mean it will get easier but if you can attrit his top fighters it always good.

(He has huge numbers of B24-D1 left and B24-J started recently production so do not expect to realy attrit his 4E but killing them is always nice as it lowers morale and they take a long time to repair).

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 10:07:27 AM

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The best fact to see the Allied are in severe need of fighters is the fact that Andy uses crappy P-40 in big numbers. The P-40N5 for example is just as bad as the P-40E in 12/41, so who would want to use the P-40E in late 43? Other than training squadrons, none of my units have used any P-40 (except the super charged ones) at that date.

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 4:33:32 PM

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Nope in any game with the Japanese player granted control over production the Allied fighter pool remains pitiful well into 1944-even with only moderate losses. Scen #2 just makes it worse. The Allied 2nd generation planes are better than the Japanese 2nd generation but the numbers more than compensate for that.

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 6:50:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
Pilot Abe C. is reported as to have escaped capture
Pilot Komachi V. is reported as having been found

WOOOHOO!
So, how many pilots currently reported as MIA?

Some statistics:
P-47 production 56/mth from 7/43 until now 196 produced, already destroyed 158
P-38G production ended 8 months * 20 = 160 produced, destroyed 127
P-38H production 40/mth from 6/43 until now 180 produced, already destroyed 103
F4U-1 production ended 9 months * 30 = 270 produced, destroyed 160
P40K production ended 11 months * 65 = 715 produced, destroyed 369
P-40N5 production 55 from 7/43 until now 192 produced, already destroyed 28

One more Australia airfield sea bombardment (I would reccomend the one, where P-38G are stationed), and Allies will be forced to downgrade to earlier models.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy
The best fact to see the Allied are in severe need of fighters is the fact that Andy uses crappy P-40 in big numbers.

Stacking small airfield with high-service models was bad idea, in the first place. Half of them was probably grounded, because of maintenance, not combat damage.
Whole situation is actually interesting, because there was no attrition war, and those loses are caused in just a several days of heavy battle.

PS. I just realised, that Waingapoe is Australian base. Does that mean, that Andy can put there Australian restricted units?

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 8:18:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: inqistor

P-47 production 56/mth from 7/43 until now 196 produced, already destroyed 158
P-38G production ended 8 months * 20 = 160 produced, destroyed 127
P-38H production 40/mth from 6/43 until now 180 produced, already destroyed 103
F4U-1 production ended 9 months * 30 = 270 produced, destroyed 160
P40K production ended 11 months * 65 = 715 produced, destroyed 369
P-40N5 production 55 from 7/43 until now 192 produced, already destroyed 28

Do not forget the planes which arrive via reinforcements.
There are around 245 P47 ,215 P38H, 300 F4U-1 and around 180 P38G produced or arrived via reinforcements at mid 10/43.

quote:

ORIGINAL: inqistor
PS. I just realised, that Waingapoe is Australian base. Does that mean, that Andy can put there Australian restricted units?

Yes that is the case.

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 8:58:47 PM

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I don't think he can put restricted units there. The nationality of the base is irrelevant, the command to which it is attached is was matters. When the base is captured, the command changes to one the command of one of the units doing the capturing. As he probably doesn't have any restricted units taking part in an invasion, the base can't have changed to Australian command.

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 9:20:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I don't think he can put restricted units there. The nationality of the base is irrelevant, the command to which it is attached is was matters. When the base is captured, the command changes to one the command of one of the units doing the capturing. As he probably doesn't have any restricted units taking part in an invasion, the base can't have changed to Australian command.�

I am not sure that that is the case here. I have captured some bases with unrestricted Australian units in India and Burma and the bases got Australian Command (R).

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 9:43:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: beppi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I don't think he can put restricted units there. The nationality of the base is irrelevant, the command to which it is attached is was matters. When the base is captured, the command changes to one the command of one of the units doing the capturing. As he probably doesn't have any restricted units taking part in an invasion, the base can't have changed to Australian command.�

I am not sure that that is the case here. I have captured some bases with unrestricted Australian units in India and Burma and the bases got Australian Command (R).

Very strange, I'd guess that's a bug, but it might be that I'm completely wrong.

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 9:59:34 PM

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so after reading all this allied fighter plane reinforcment and production numbers, we can be sure, that after 1 more week or so of fighter sweeps and naval bombardments andy will be totaly out of modern fighters and must use inferior types against PzBs 2nd generation fighters.

that will make the job not easier for andy.

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RE: "Z" - 3/2/2011 10:31:40 PM

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While I heartily agree that the number of allied plane replacements is pitiful compared to reality, I will say that the number of new groups that come on line do increase the number of ACs available markedly. Downgrading new sqds to older types to drop the modern fighters into the pool is a major way I keep numbers up.
I am nowhere near this date, but I can state that I had 20 P-39s in my pools at one point. I received 4 sqds in 4 days which dropped 100 more P-39s into the pool. Since you don't have to have 25 'other' fighters to downgrade/upgrade the original group, this can augment numbers.
Just saying that just looking at replacements isn't an exact science with the numbers

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RE: "Z" - 3/3/2011 4:59:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: aprezto

While I heartily agree that the number of allied plane replacements is pitiful compared to reality, I will say that the number of new groups that come on line do increase the number of ACs available markedly. Downgrading new sqds to older types to drop the modern fighters into the pool is a major way I keep numbers up.
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This I worry has been overlooked in some of the calcs. While production rates to the pool are not that high, the allies get so many new groups continuously. You need to add those into your calcs .... they are not small numbers.

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RE: "Z" - 3/3/2011 8:48:34 AM

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A quick update; a bit behind now...

The question about killing of Allied fighter pools is a mute one, but keeping the T-bolt pool low is a more relevant approach

Last turn was interesting:
Again intercepted the empty mega convoy moving north from Marquesas with a CL and an AMC.
The ships have to little ammo to achive great deeds but we got a handfull more.

At Waingapoe we again fought past dozens of PT boats, mostly out of torps, and sank the remaining transports unloading there.
A huge bombardment closed the fields for the day and destroyed 93 ac on the ground including 15 P-47s and some Corsairs

There were mostly P-40s on the fields, but now also SBDs and 2Es.

I don't think Andy should have anything else than fighters on Waingapoe; it's a size 4 field - easily overstacked.
Trying to gain air superiority with 150-200 fighters plus fielding 50 bombers there is uber optimistic.
Guess the cries for help from that wretched place will bring carriers back soon!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 14, 43

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Hilo at 201,128, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu

Allied Ships
AM Sage, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
AM Constant, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Serpens
xAK Dakotan
xAK Utahan
xAK Atlanta City
xAK Mobile City
xAK Steel Age
xAK Steel Exporter
xAK Steel Navigator
xAK Steel Ranger
xAK Steel Scientist
xAK Steel Seafarer
xAK Steel Trader
xAK Steel Voyager
xAK Steel Worker
xAK Dorothy Luckenbach
xAK Horace Luckenbach
xAK Jacob Luckenbach, Shell hits 1
xAK Lillian Luckenbach
xAK William Luckenbach
xAK Corrales
xAK Ewa
xAK Liloa
xAK Mahimahi
xAK Makena
xAK Maliko
xAK Manulani
xAK Mormachawk, Shell hits 1
xAK Mormaclark
xAK Mormacwren
xAK San Angelo
xAK Admiral Wiley
xAK Admiral Gove
xAK Admiral Williams
xAK Hollywood
xAK West Portal
xAK West Shipper
xAK City of Elwood
xAK Willimoto
xAK Alcoa Planter
xAK Alcoa Pilgrim
xAK Alcoa Pegasus
xAK Cape Romain
xAK Cape Alava
xAK Cape Flattery
TK David McKelvy
xAK Alcoa Pioneer
xAK Cape Cumberland
xAK Cape John
xAK Defiance
xAK Golden Gate
xAK Hurricane
xAK Cynthia Olson
xAK Dellwood
xAK Exmoor
xAK Liberty
xAK Liberty Glo
xAK Lipscomb Lykes
xAK Aloe, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 100% moonlight: 12,000 yards
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Komodo at 63,111, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Akizuki
DD Shiranui
DD Hagikaze
DD Shirakumo
DD Sagiri
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
PT-354, Shell hits 1
PT-355
PT-356, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-357
PT-361
PT-362, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Waingapoe at 63,113, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Akizuki
DD Shiranui
DD Hagikaze
DD Shirakumo
DD Sagiri
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
DD Flusser, Shell hits 10, on fire
xAK B. Livingston, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Jose Sepulveda, Shell hits 38, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Stephen M. White, Shell hits 1
xAK Zachary Taylor, Shell hits 10

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Hilo at 200,127, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Gokoku Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
AK Serpens, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Dakotan
xAK Utahan
xAK Atlanta City
xAK Mobile City
xAK Steel Age
xAK Steel Exporter
xAK Steel Navigator
xAK Steel Ranger
xAK Steel Scientist
xAK Steel Seafarer
xAK Steel Trader
xAK Steel Voyager
xAK Steel Worker
xAK Dorothy Luckenbach
xAK Horace Luckenbach
xAK Jacob Luckenbach
xAK Lillian Luckenbach
xAK William Luckenbach
xAK Corrales
xAK Ewa
xAK Liloa
xAK Mahimahi
xAK Makena
xAK Maliko
xAK Mormachawk
xAK Mormaclark
xAK Mormacwren
xAK San Angelo
xAK Admiral Wiley
xAK Admiral Gove
xAK Admiral Williams
xAK Hollywood
xAK West Portal
xAK West Shipper
xAK City of Elwood
xAK Willimoto
xAK Alcoa Planter, heavy damage
xAK Alcoa Pegasus
xAK Cape Romain
xAK Cape Flattery
TK David McKelvy, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
xAK Alcoa Pioneer
xAK Cape Cumberland
xAK Cape John
xAK Defiance
xAK Golden Gate
xAK Hurricane
xAK Cynthia Olson
xAK Dellwood
xAK Exmoor
xAK Liberty
xAK Liberty Glo
xAK Lipscomb Lykes
xAK Nisqually
xAK Port Orford
xAK David J. Brewer, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAK Comliebank
xAK Hosang

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Hilo at 200,127, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Gokoku Maru

Allied Ships
AK Serpens, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Willimoto
xAK Alcoa Planter, heavy damage
TK David McKelvy, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK David J. Brewer, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Bombardments

Night Naval bombardment of Waingapoe at 63,113 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IV: 3 destroyed on ground
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 7 destroyed on ground
P-39N1 Airacobra: 3 destroyed on ground
P-40N1 Warhawk: 5 destroyed on ground
P-40N5 Warhawk: 11 destroyed on ground
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed on ground
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed on ground
P-40K Warhawk: 13 destroyed on ground
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed on ground
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 6 destroyed on ground
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed on ground

23 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato
BB Kirishima
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Ashigara
CA Chokai
CL Kinu
DD Tadeyame
DD Suruyame
DD Asashio
DD Onami

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
273 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 126

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Yamato
BB Yamato firing at 15th Marine Defense Battalion
15th Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Yamato
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at 33rd Infantry Division
E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for BB Haruna
BB Haruna firing at Waingapoe
BB Kongo firing at Waingapoe
CA Ashigara firing at Waingapoe
CA Chokai firing at Waingapoe
CL Kinu firing at 11th (East African) Division
DD Tadeyame firing at Waingapoe
DD Suruyame firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Asashio firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Onami firing at 11th (East African) Division
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Air Combat

With Waingapoe closed our bomber finally get some targets!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Zachary Taylor, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Flusser

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Flusser, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Zachary Taylor, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Flusser, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Endeh at 64,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Zachary Taylor, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Stephen M. White, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Bombarding Waingapo

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RE: "Z" - 3/3/2011 9:11:54 AM

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xAK Dorothy Luckenbach
xAK Horace Luckenbach
xAK Jacob Luckenbach
xAK Lillian Luckenbach
xAK William Luckenbach

lol? the luckenbach gang?

nice bombardement results by the way. finaly your battleships hit the field instead of troops.

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RE: "Z" - 3/3/2011 9:51:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: PzB
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Oh, ah! Interesting. Andy must soon return with his flattops, no way he can hold Waingapoe unless he gets his "roof" fixed. But maybe he will already bring a second wave to take another island? That would mean real trouble.

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RE: "Z" - 3/3/2011 10:24:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

quote:

ORIGINAL: aprezto

While I heartily agree that the number of allied plane replacements is pitiful compared to reality, I will say that the number of new groups that come on line do increase the number of ACs available markedly. Downgrading new sqds to older types to drop the modern fighters into the pool is a major way I keep numbers up.
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This I worry has been overlooked in some of the calcs. While production rates to the pool are not that high, the allies get so many new groups continuously. You need to add those into your calcs .... they are not small numbers.

That was the reason for my "gross estimation life half, more than half" and so on for my first post regarding to numbers. As i have a own game currently now exactly on the same date (14 oktober 43) i can just add my allied numbers to get quite an exact estimation of fighter numbers. Till mid of 11/43 there will arrive further 75 P47 through groups on the East coast which can easily be transfered to the front through downgrading.

In addition the F4U-1A with their almost 80 each month hurt. Overall tide will turn regarding to fighters even when Andy scarifies them like he does currently.

I would try to contain Waingapoe, it is the perfect farming place and even when it sometimes get to lvl 8 it is still no lvl 9 base. Lvl 9 with 600 4E + 2E and a zillion of fighters (even when they are outdated) is a serious problem for any Japanese player. Drop 10 AO with fuel and 10 AKE into the base, park all you battle wagons and PTs at the base and it is almost impossible to take that base out for Japan.

I just really enjoy this AAR with Japan able to put on some fierce resistance in the SRA. I feel a little bit that currently in the game after 6/43 the allied steamroll is much to fast especially if you assault through the SRA. Almost noone currently heads for the Mariannes as it is much easier to go through the SRA (at least everyone expects it).

So good luck and continue your extraordinarily defensive work :)

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RE: "Z" - 3/3/2011 2:07:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: janh

quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Oh, ah! Interesting. Andy must soon return with his flattops, no way he can hold Waingapoe unless he gets his "roof" fixed. But maybe he will already bring a second wave to take another island? That would mean real trouble.

disagree. Andy has landed reinforcements and forts are certainly going up quite quickly. Ok the situation is unconfortable for him, but once the forts are high up, he can start thinking offensively again. PZB is slowing him down right now, at low cost. Good. But this is just that... HE might need 2 months to clear the situation and get extra bases around, but then all hell breaks loose.

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