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Alternate shipset issues? - 3/8/2011 3:15:18 PM   
Caesar_Augustus


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Status: offline 		OK, guys, after getting better at using the Gimp 2.6.11 programme ( ), I've been editing
shipsets... oh what fun it is!

If memory serves, RoTS apparently has the ability of alternate shipsets, that is,
that it is possible (?) to simultaneously use different shipsets per ship-class...
is that so?

And if this is so, how does this work?

Thanks!
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/8/2011 4:54:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi it requires you to have a second ship family for your race to use.

So let's assume you are using family 0 for yourself. You then have for instance 10 AI empires using families 1-10, you create a new family 11 and fill this with your alternate designs. Then when in the ship design screen click the small arrow next to the ship picture and a drop down selection appears, here you scroll through every single ship graphic in the game and pick one of the ones from your family 11.

Something to make sure of to ensure this works, your new alternate family must have the full amount of 25 (for ROTS) different ship graphics, one for each ship class or it will not show in game.

Hope that doesn't sound too complex.

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/8/2011 6:12:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, feygan, I'll try this out...

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/8/2011 10:21:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Feygan is correct. The Star Trek TRSE mod has such a shipset. Note that it doesn't matter what images you use for the fighter and bomber as they don't appear in the list.

Also, if you make the extra shipset the last in the folder. ie family0-10 are for your races and family11 is for your extras, then the these will appear at the very bottom of the list in the design screen.

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/8/2011 11:00:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Igard, you showed us in another forum how to use the 11th shipset. Can you plug in which forum that was?

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/8/2011 11:43:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Real neat, Igard. BTW, an obvious question: I presume you can use more than one "extra" shipset, up to the game limit of 22, I think it is, correct?

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/9/2011 12:06:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here are the instructions for using the extra shipset copied from TRSE mod thread :-

How to use the 'Extra' Shipset :-

This shipset is not used by any one race in the game. It's purpose is simply to provide extra ship images for any additional ship designs the player may need. So the player can now have 2 frigate designs etc.

- From the Design Screen, select 'Show non-obsolete designs' from the drop-down menu.
- Select the design of the ship role you want to create another variant of. Click 'Copy as new'
- Click on the ship image combo box. Scroll to the bottom and look for a suitable ship image. There are several images here from different races. There are more ship images for Federation designs than any other race.
- Now design your new ship with it's unique features. I find that naming my ship designs according to what role they have helps. For example, I could have an Escort Frigate that is fast and lightly armed, as well as an Assault Frigate, which is a bit slower and heavily armed.

Caesar, I believe that's correct. So your last shipset would be family21. That's 22 shipsets, family0 -family21.


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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/9/2011 4:03:15 AM   
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Thank you, Igard.

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/9/2011 7:56:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		First 'cloaking devices', now extra shipsets....
Those Romulans are just SO DAMNED SMART!
Always building stuff!



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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/10/2011 12:04:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, we should really drink a toast to the Romulan.

A couple of cheers, and the ale is on me.

<== My head after several round of Romulan ale.

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/10/2011 3:27:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tjhkkr

Yeah, we should really drink a toast to the Romulan.

A couple of cheers, and the ale is on me.

<== My head after several round of Romulan ale.


TJ....are you sure you weren't in league with Data during his 'Romulan Ale heist'
of Igards' Ale cellar?

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/10/2011 3:43:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		'Romulan Ale heist'

A Jedi involved in a heist scheme... would I do that?

Jedi are good guys...
Wow, this ale heist thing has all the makings of a full blown diplomatic incident.

And like a typical Romulans, they sit back and enjoys all the pandemonium the incident has created...

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/10/2011 10:23:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not to mention they could have started the hole thing, very sly these romulans

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/11/2011 2:28:10 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/user/GeneralGrin#p/c/7/xfzaUJ9Q_L4

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/11/2011 3:41:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ohoo, good times, this brings back a ton of memories
But Data was his natural self there, no need to drink to do that

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/12/2011 4:34:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Data....in your picture I notice that your forehead looks a bit 'stretched'!

You haven't infiltrated my lab like you've done Igard's Ale cellar have you?

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/12/2011 4:48:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why do it? Igard's cellar has some good stuff in it....your lab is pure horror

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/12/2011 5:49:19 PM   
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 12:43:04 AM   
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 12:45:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Data

Why do it? Igard's cellar has some good stuff in it....your lab is pure horror


Wow....wonder what other fabulous 'stuff' Igard has?

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 9:52:03 AM   
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 4:16:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just threw together a website utilising the yet unused free web space I've had for about 10 years now.

I'm so rusty at this stuff though, I can't remember how to do half of it!

Anyway link is on my sig. Feel free to raid it.


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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 4:47:09 PM   
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 6:29:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Romulan... cargo bay? Ahem, is this where you keep the ale that was, uh, "taken",
shall we say, from others on this forum, whom I will not name??
Hint, hint: doubtless that someone should very loudly state... WOW! Ahem, ahem...

And indeed, was it not the Romulan Embassy before?

Very nice place all the same...

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 7:14:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Igard

I just threw together a website utilising the yet unused free web space I've had for about 10 years now.

I'm so rusty at this stuff though, I can't remember how to do half of it!

Anyway link is on my sig. Feel free to raid it.



Wow....Data really cleaned up! My tricorder only picks up two selectable
entryways to different realms. NOT A TRACE OF ROMULAN ALE!
I'm very disappointed!

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 7:54:53 PM   
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PS: Tricorder consists of:
plastic 40%
LED diodes 30%
magic 30%

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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 8:17:48 PM   
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 8:23:05 PM   
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 9:06:28 PM   
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RE: Alternate shipset issues? - 3/14/2011 10:46:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Caesar_Augustus

And indeed, was it not the Romulan Embassy before?



Yes it was I couldn't think of a name for it until I came on these forums, then it hit me.

In fact, the Romulan text at the top still says, Igard's Romulan Embassy, but I don't think anyone can read Romulan.

I've still got lots to add to it (and figure out how to add a footer). The main purpose for it just now is to provide links to the Star Trek mods.


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