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Release date for AT Gold? - 1/31/2011 11:19:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Read about this and I'm psyched--but there isn't much point to purchasing AT now with AT Gold close.

Any word on a release date for AT Gold?
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 2/1/2011 1:43:44 AM   
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he is the Developer and I am sure any info you need you can find it all there

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 2/1/2011 2:48:14 AM   
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/1/2011 5:06:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		End of Q1 is nearing, so uhm, how about an update? Some screenies, maybe a youtube gameplay, anything really would be appreciated ....  

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/1/2011 5:52:06 PM   
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/1/2011 6:59:56 PM   
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/7/2011 4:52:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK so it's announced. Doesnt look like you can buy it yet though.

Is there a discount for existing AT holders?

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/7/2011 4:56:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Re your first statement, I believe (just guessing) it should be released in about 3 or 4 weeks. Someone from Matrix Games will have to confirm the release date and are the only ones who can answer your question about a discount for existing AT owners.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/7/2011 5:00:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks. Quick response!

I have been waiting for this for a long time.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/7/2011 9:31:04 PM   
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Is there a discount for existing AT holders?



There will have to be a substantial discount for me even to think about this one; none of that 10% rubbish they did with Crown of Glory. I can't see anything about ATG that rates more than an 'expansion pack' and if not sold separately (which it obviously isn't) it should be an expansion pack price for existing owners.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/7/2011 9:53:45 PM   
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/7/2011 10:53:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		From what I can tell this is more than an expansion.  It's really a new version of the game.  I wouldn't mind paying full price but a discount is always nice.

Hertston, if you really want to see a ripoff just look at what they did with Harpoon.  The game is exactly the same.  But if we want future patches it'll cost $35.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 12:03:26 AM   
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 12:48:51 AM   
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From what I can tell this is more than an expansion.  It's really a new version of the game. 


In my opinion, it's not a new version as you claim but just an enhanced version. Like WITP AE.
I'm definitely buying this but would really hope to get some discount as being an existing AT customer.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 2:44:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		AT Gold looks amazing.

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/405/screenshots/Advanced.Tactics:.Gold

+1 for the discount though.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 12:21:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		as a tester I can say that ATG plays like a brand new game. The addition of needing to make resources before you can produce items is totally different from AT and causes you to change your whole strategy. Not to mention the ability for allies to move through your territory and many many other things. This game is worth every penny of the full price and you know that vic will support it like no one else does.


also the new scenarios packaged with it are brillant

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 1:18:41 PM   
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 2:33:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Howard can you tell what scenarios will be included?
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 5:57:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would definatly not call it an expansion. An expansion is something that expands a game horizontaly by giving it a bigger scope through new scenarios and some fixes but with little of new functions.

I wouldnt call it a brand new game either. Because it is what it says: AT-Gold. It is a new and enhanced version of the game with a lot of new and improved features and much better graphics. People who played AT will be able to dive very quickly into AT. Its like the new versions of Civilization. It has always kept the same basic features and idea while changing things under & over the hood.

I would also say that there is basicly very different AT players, random game players, modders and people who play scenarios. ATG does have something for everyone. And some changes that look small when you see it on the feature list makes a huge difference in game.

Just one example is the new feature that lets you program an event that lets the players select a hex as a function of an actioncard or event. This feature alone is huge if you want to model events realisticly. For one thing it makes it possible to program events for minefields, evacuate factories, populations etc, basicly anything.

Another thing that is huge is alliances with giving of hexes, units etc. I have played diplomatic wargames for many years and i have honestly never seen this done as elegantly and realistic as in ATG (Civ is close though).

I do think a discount is a good idea to get every AT player into ATG, but i also think this really depends on the ultimate price. If the price is small then the discount is less nesscessary, if the price is higher the discount becomes more interesting. As i recall AT wasnt terribly expensive in itself.  

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 7:24:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		The idea of a discount for AT owners is good for me (i register the game today hehehe) and price... for me with discount between 20-30 euros is a good price over this less.

Well, then if all go fine this month the game is release (Q1) great, now Vic can work on a East fron title for DC

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 7:31:22 PM   
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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 8:02:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rjh1971

Howard can you tell what scenarios will be included?
Thanks


I am not sure exactly what scenarios are going to be included except for Toms WaW which has been revamped in a major way. If your a fan of his WaW you will be pleased with this version I believe.

I will post some screen shots of the current game we are testing as it develops for those that are interested.

ps: My understanding is that any scenarios not packaged with the release will be available for free on the scenario bank website.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 8:05:00 PM   
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Has anyone seen the manual yet?

all of the tester have seen the wiki manual and vic has two testers dedicated to just making sure that its a much improved manual over the original.
Vic has really devoted time and effort to making sure that this manual is a good well written, informative one.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 8:09:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you, much appreciated. Gives us a feel of the game, a sneak peek so to say.
Toms scenarios are A+ in my book, and everyone else's book too I guess.
But, I'd also really really would like it to see Grymme's scenarios included, they're A+ too, don't know if that would be possible though given that they are written for AT, and not AT Gold.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 8:27:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not a scenario designer but I think everyone will be amazed at the flexibility available to the scenario designers in AT-GOLD. Tom's WaW plays so differently in the way you go about setting up your production and how you research technology from the random games, that you would swear it was a completely different game. This is like a build your own strategy game kit, and as far as I can tell the possibilities are endless. 

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 8:58:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Heartily agree. Advanced Tactics Gold Edition is basically a wargame construction kit. I'm not a scenario designer either but I bet those that are will be producing some great custom scenarios for us ATG gamers to enjoy.

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... This is like a build your own strategy game kit, and as far as I can tell the possibilities are endless. 



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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 8:59:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info on scenarios, WaW is a great scenario and if the AI speed is going to be increased as I've read somewhere it will be great, not to mention pbem.
This is a sure buy for me the moment it comes out .

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/8/2011 10:15:00 PM   
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Thank you, much appreciated. Gives us a feel of the game, a sneak peek so to say.
Toms scenarios are A+ in my book, and everyone else's book too I guess.
But, I'd also really really would like it to see Grymme's scenarios included, they're A+ too, don't know if that would be possible though given that they are written for AT, and not AT Gold.


Thanks Josh. All AT-scenarios will be possible to load in ATG so all old scenarios including mine will be playable in ATG. They can also be updated and changed in the ATG editor. I am close to being finished with my bigest project yet, FITE. Unfortunatly with changes in hotmail and gmail attachment policy i dont have any distribution channel. Any ideas is welcome.


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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/9/2011 1:14:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 82ndtrooper


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Has anyone seen the manual yet?

all of the tester have seen the wiki manual and vic has two testers dedicated to just making sure that its a much improved manual over the original.
Vic has really devoted time and effort to making sure that this manual is a good well written, informative one.


It would be very nice if the manual is print friendly ie with a white background.

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RE: Release date for AT Gold? - 3/9/2011 1:25:04 AM   
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Has the Editor been given a touch up with the 'user-friendliness' brush?

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