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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/9/2011 10:32:14 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Yes, I think numerous detections have a positive influence on strike coordination.
Setting up better coordinated strikes together with more accurate positioning of enemy fleets = more hits.

AM - PM strikes I don't even have a theory for.
If weather grounded KB strikes I'd wish there was a message saying so; I've still seen strikes launched in t-storms against targets in t-storms.

I'm wearing out my battleships, so need to complete the Waingapoe business before they all have to go into the yards.
Splitting up TFs is possible when no enemy resistance is expected.
- Will take a month to get all damaged CVs and CVEs to yard alone; I expect 1-3 months to complete repairs.

Hm, not keeping an eye on it but I think score is (ca) Allies 22000 vs Japan 52000.

Thx Rob, I got WitE on hold until this game is completed

Andy got virus on his puter and needs to reinstall...so no turn today.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/9/2011 10:33:34 PM   
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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/10/2011 1:22:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

Tell Andy to quit surfing naughty web sites. LOL

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/10/2011 11:18:31 AM   
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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/11/2011 2:52:14 AM   
PaxMondo


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Status: offline 		You do know that in a few of months, Andy will read this.  I'm so happy I did not write that! 

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/11/2011 11:07:20 AM   
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Ordered a new book today: Fortress-Rabaul


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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/11/2011 3:32:30 PM   
rmlpanzer08

 

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Status: offline 		Hi PzB,

I just finished the book last week. A good book, a quick read. I learned alot that I didn't know about the Rabaul battles.

Congrats on your well earned victory.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/11/2011 8:26:20 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Thx RML! Looking forward to the read

We're back in business - with a bang!

We hit Waingapoe hard again and our LBA is back in action with a vengeance and hits 8 cargo ships and a destroyer south of Timor.
Didn't we tell Andy that he can't do as he wish around here?

Also good news from the R&D Department; the Frank is ready for production in a few days!
I've also replenished 98% of KBs veteran and elite pilots; 98% of ac also in place and being readied.

When the Allies come back the same old way we'll defeat them in the same old way!

And this is for the victims in the horrible earthquake in Japan


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 27, 43

Bombardments - Surface Combat

Night Naval bombardment of Waingapoe at 63,113 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Hiei
CA Ashigara
CA Atago
DD Tachekaze
DD Uzuki
DD Shiranui
DD Suzunami
DD Kazegumo
DD Akizuki

Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Nagato
BB Nagato firing at Waingapoe
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei
BB Hiei firing at 11th (East African) Division
CA Ashigara firing at 11th (East African) Division
CA Atago firing at 11th (East African) Division
DD Tachekaze firing at 7th Infantry Division
DD Uzuki firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Shiranui firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Suzunami firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Kazegumo firing at 7th Infantry Division
DD Akizuki firing at 15th Marine Defense Battalion
15th Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Akizuki
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Endeh at 64,113, Range 21,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Nagato
CA Atago
CA Ashigara
DD Akizuki
DD Kazegumo
DD Suzunami
DD Shiranui
DD Uzuki
DD Tachekaze

Allied Ships
PT-364, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-365
PT-366, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-367, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-372, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-373, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Air Combat

Our Betties have elite pilots..still! I've tried to hold them back from high risk missions.

Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 50 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 15 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Waingapoe at 63,113
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25G Mitchell x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed
B-25G Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
E Aotaka
PB Yodozo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Derby at 67,123
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
LSI(L) Denbighshire
xAK Vitus Bering, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Taylor, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Derby at 67,123
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 19 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Empire Condor, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LCI-221
xAK Alice Moller, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Clan Cameron
APA Pierce, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Bald Eagle, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Mahsud, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK George Chaffey, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK William Vanderbilt, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Mobile

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Northern Oz - Again




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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/11/2011 10:46:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Since I read your AAR frequently, but comment sporadically, I have learned that I will need to pull out some of my highly trained Army bomber pilots that have high Ground experience to replace losses. Right now (Aug 42), I have just added rookies when older pilots are killed.

I just thought about training up some of the small (2 to 4 plane) FP restricted in Japan in Recon and Naval Search. I wonder how much a difference your Bombardment TF would be if those spotting had high recon experience. Do you have any idea how good those FP pilots are for your BBs??

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/11/2011 11:08:23 PM   
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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/12/2011 4:27:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cribtop

Hmmmm....... Interesting thought.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/12/2011 8:24:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy
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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
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ORIGINAL: Cribtop
...Second, my theory on PM only strikes is that it seems to happen at longer ranges. Perhaps it takes the search a/c long enough to get to the enemy TF and report that the strike is pushed to the PM phase. ...

Interesting thought ... makes sense.

yeah, would make sense but as I´ve seen such "long range" strikes both in the am and pm phase dozens of times I seriously doubt that above´s theory has something to do with the game.


I am currently playing with editor, and it seems, that KB rarely sends second strike against PH, at the war beginning. I wonder, if this changed after any of patches, or was always the case? In WITP it was extremely rare, for KB, to NOT send second strike.

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ORIGINAL: PzB
Also good news from the R&D Department; the Frank is ready for production in a few days!


Are not standard Japan airplane-MG 12mm, with Effect of 2? If so, Frank seems to be ultimate killing platform, so far.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/12/2011 10:53:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: inqistor

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ORIGINAL: castor troy
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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
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ORIGINAL: Cribtop
...Second, my theory on PM only strikes is that it seems to happen at longer ranges. Perhaps it takes the search a/c long enough to get to the enemy TF and report that the strike is pushed to the PM phase. ...

Interesting thought ... makes sense.

yeah, would make sense but as I´ve seen such "long range" strikes both in the am and pm phase dozens of times I seriously doubt that above´s theory has something to do with the game.


I am currently playing with editor, and it seems, that KB rarely sends second strike against PH, at the war beginning. I wonder, if this changed after any of patches, or was always the case? In WITP it was extremely rare, for KB, to NOT send second strike.


I recall reading a response to this once ... something along the lines that it depended upon how many a/c were damaged in the morning strike. There was a ceck on each bomber squadron(?) leader to see if they would fly. More damage = higher odds to fly.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/12/2011 6:34:32 PM   
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I recall reading a response to this once ... something along the lines that it depended upon how many a/c were damaged in the morning strike. There was a ceck on each bomber squadron(?) leader to see if they would fly. More damage = higher odds to fly.


Isn't that the wrong way round ? surely more damage would lead to less likelyhood for a PM strike ?

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/12/2011 9:09:01 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		They only got low recon skills...30-40's. Thought the only question was weather the bombarding ships had a spotted in the squadron or not!?
But good question

Frank will be good but has a higher service rating than Tojos!
Quiet turn. The Empire is very much on the top of the world right now but it's a long way down...

4 days and the assault on Waingapoe is scheduled to start; awaiting the arrival of an Area Army and the last 2 crack
divisions and combat engineers have started moving. We will have 9+ divisions and 4100 AV to our disposal against the enemy's 1750 AV.
- I hope we'll manage to end this relatively quickly. A reserve division and another 300 AV will be available if needed but I hope heavy
air and sea bombardments and numbers will be enough to break resistance relatively early.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 28, 43

Sub Attacks

Submarine attack near Derby at 66,124

Japanese Ships
SS I-168

Allied Ships
xAK Empire Condor, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAK Empire Condor is sighted by SS I-168
SS I-168 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Empire Condor
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Air Combat

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Waingapoe at 63,113
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
A-36 Mustang x 1
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25G Mitchell x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
E Aotaka
PB Yodozo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/12/2011 11:39:13 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		A bit messy on the ac frame/engine production side; lots of engines are upgrading to the HA-45 and I'm a bit low on the 35 type.
Guess this will change when the Frank goes into production in a couple of days.

Finally got 100% pilots assigned to KB; last replacement ac are now trickling in.
All frontline LBA units are also mostly up to strength again; we have depleted our advanced training schools.
May have to switch some units in quiet theatres into training mode to increase advanced army pilot training.

Just 8 days until our next carrier arrives; still a heavy demand for naval ship construction yards.
Got 2 CLs on halt until the carrier is delivered. Not sure what's sucking so many points at present. Got tons of subs halted.
Should have received the first Jap MTBs but as noted earlier; they're bugged and stuck.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 29, 43

Bombardments

Not great bombardment results..maybe I should split them up before the ground assault goes in.

Night Naval bombardment of Waingapoe at 63,113 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato
BB Kirishima
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Chokai
CL Kinu
DD Tadeyame
DD Suruyame
DD Hamakaze
DD Onami
DD Yugumo

Allied ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 20
Port hits 5

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Yamato
BB Yamato firing at 11th (East African) Division
BB Kirishima firing at Waingapoe
BB Haruna firing at 11th (East African) Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kongo
BB Kongo firing at 15th Marine Defense Battalion
15th Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Kongo
CA Chokai firing at 11th (East African) Division
CL Kinu firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Tadeyame firing at 11th (East African) Division
DD Suruyame firing at 15th Marine Defense Battalion
15th Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Suruyame
DD Hamakaze firing at 2nd Australian/A Division
DD Onami firing at 7th Infantry Division
DD Yugumo firing at 11th (East African) Division
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Sub - ASW Attacks

The I-37 sinks...

ASW attack near Carnarvon at 47,133

Japanese Ships
SS I-37, hits 9, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DE Isis
DD Endicott
DE Encounter
AS Colombia
LSI(L) Empire Battleaxe
AK Charlevoix
AK Caledonia
AK Brevard
AK Livingston
TK British Hope
TK Norfold
TK British Trader
LST-479
xAP Kepong
xAP Kajang
xAP Speelman
xAP Rooseboom
xAP Sin Kheng Seng
xAP Cape Neddick
xAK John Burke
xAK John A. Rawlins
xAK Frederick J. Turner
xAK Francisco Coronado
xAK Archbishop Lamy
xAK Cape Elizabeth
DD Racehorse
DD Vendetta

SS I-37 launches 6 torpedoes at DE Isis
DD Racehorse fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Vendetta attacking submerged sub ....
Underwater explosion, debris and oil appear on surface!
Escort abandons search for sub
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 7

Allied aircraft
A-36 Mustang x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 50 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 13 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Waingapoe at 63,113
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
B-25G Mitchell x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25G Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
E Aotaka

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Waingapoe at 63,113
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
E Aotaka
PB Yodozo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
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Damage Inc.

All our damaged ships from the Waingapoe battles have reached safe repair yards.
The Tone isn't to badly damaged compared to the beating she took.
- The Musashi combined her repairs with an upgrade; some 130 days combined and damage was only slight...




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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 11:13:33 AM   
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I recall reading a response to this once ... something along the lines that it depended upon how many a/c were damaged in the morning strike. There was a ceck on each bomber squadron(?) leader to see if they would fly. More damage = higher odds to fly.

Isn't that the wrong way round ? surely more damage would lead to less likelyhood for a PM strike ?

Anyway, it seems this modification had some unfortunate consequences, with overall lack of PM Carrier strikes. Looks, like players should check it carefully, seems like probably bug. I have again run first turn, and again KB did not attacked second time.

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A bit messy on the ac frame/engine production side; lots of engines are upgrading to the HA-45 and I'm a bit low on the 35 type.
Guess this will change when the Frank goes into production in a couple of days.


I know, that you began the game, like 3 patches ago, but if that picture WAS Ki-84a, now it looks like this.

You will better carefully check, which engines are actually used in your database.





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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 11:43:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: inqistor
Anyway, it seems this modification had some unfortunate consequences, with overall lack of PM Carrier strikes. Looks, like players should check it carefully, seems like probably bug. I have again run first turn, and again KB did not attacked second time.


Chances of a PM strike are influenced by plane readiness, morale, fatigue, range to target, detection level, leader aggressiveness, whether port strike is primary or secondary target and, as always, a couple of more.
If this influencing factors have been slightly enhanced by modifications during the patching process this does not change the overall validity of these rules.

Look up the early AE AARs and search for a PM strike on PH. (aztez, or an older seydlitz AAR for example).


Bug.



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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 3:11:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, that's just a temporary concent Inq; the Frank use the HA-45 so an auto upgrade from the old Tojo engine is a good thing.
Frank is now in production! Hope to crank them out by the hundreds.

KB now has 850 ac again and another carrier will bring this to 920 in 6 days.
The Ryuhu suddenly received 2 CAG groups while undergoing repairs in Singapore; 2 pilots and just a few ac but I welcome all new air units
that can be used for pilot training.

Enemy hits Lautern this turn...
We concentrate on Waingapoe; poor weather has made it hard to suppress the place but Andy doesn't dare to send in more lba.
Sent a few fighters on LRCAP and it turns out there's an air ferry from Oz in progress; probably with troops and supplies.

This night our troops will be in position and heave bombardments have been ordered.
D-Day is tomorrow night!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 31, 43

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 3
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 44

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 9000 feet *
21 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
11 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 63 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 10 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Lautem , at 72,115
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 46
B-24J Liberator x 30
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 21

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 14
Runway hits 95
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Morning Air attack on Lautem , at 72,115
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Lautem , at 72,115
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 7

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 8 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 3:25:37 PM   
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I recall reading a response to this once ... something along the lines that it depended upon how many a/c were damaged in the morning strike. There was a ceck on each bomber squadron(?) leader to see if they would fly. More damage = higher odds to fly.

Isn't that the wrong way round ? surely more damage would lead to less likelyhood for a PM strike ?

Anyway, it seems this modification had some unfortunate consequences, with overall lack of PM Carrier strikes. Looks, like players should check it carefully, seems like probably bug. I have again run first turn, and again KB did not attacked second time.

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ORIGINAL: PzB
A bit messy on the ac frame/engine production side; lots of engines are upgrading to the HA-45 and I'm a bit low on the 35 type.
Guess this will change when the Frank goes into production in a couple of days.


I know, that you began the game, like 3 patches ago, but if that picture WAS Ki-84a, now it looks like this.

You will better carefully check, which engines are actually used in your database.







the picture PzB posted was the armored version of the Zeke.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 3:45:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		is there a stat for diving? i remember reading that American fighters stalled out diving early in the war...or was it climbing...i think it wsas diving. well, either way is there a stat that concerns diving?

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 4:47:25 PM   
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is there a stat for diving? i remember reading that American fighters stalled out diving early in the war...or was it climbing...i think it wsas diving. well, either way is there a stat that concerns diving?

I beleive something like that would be in the a/c manouver stats.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 4:52:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, no individual stat for diving...

Question; If you were to withdraw damaged ships from Northern Oz (CV, CVE, BB, CA +++) enmasse - were would they go?
I've tracked the enemy moving south towards Perth. But from Perth, were would they go?

-> Further south to Melbourne and Sydney
-> Exit the map edge and go back to West Coast or to off map base(how long would this take?)
-> East from Perth and up to Karachi

Would be nice to intercept some of the damaged ships!

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 5:18:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Capetown is capable of most large repairs.

Perth has a very small repair yard. Melbourne and Brisbane are equal in size and are relatively small. Sydney is a little bigger and then there is Auckland.

It takes 2-3 weeks to transit between Capetown and Perth for slow moving ships.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 6:48:47 PM   
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Do you think the transports are bringing in troops or evacuating them? If I was Andy I might be thinking about the latter at this point.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 7:34:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perth would do a lot if you had a bunch of naval support there. 

Andy could have built that to a size 7 port by now.  So, that would be where I would go to get the system and minor damage removed from my ships before I moved them to Cape Town (or whereever) for major repair.  With enough Naval support, some AR's, AD's, etc., he could repair quite a bit of damage there.

So, if I am you, I'm thinking about a KB strike on Perth.  Loop way west and come in from the SW.  He won't have LR patrols in that direction... you might be able to bag a bunch of cripples.    Take you 2 weeks of steaming, but most of the ships would still be there ...

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 7:39:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		My money would be on capetown as the initial base to send cripples back to. Perth does indeed have a tiny (3) repair yard that can work on DD's and smaller but nothing big. If andy has any AR or ARD's in Perth thay could help tackle sys/flood damage respectively before he send tham off map.

also i dont think that ships once off map check for additional flooding etc, so once he sailed them to CT they can then transfer to East coast or even the UK for major shipyards.

OFC that all takes ages for him and even once repairted they'll have a long trip back. Depending on damage i'd guess at 6-12 months before you see any of those again.

Port strike on Perth would be fun but most likely suicidal.

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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 7:57:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LoBaron


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ORIGINAL: inqistor
Anyway, it seems this modification had some unfortunate consequences, with overall lack of PM Carrier strikes. Looks, like players should check it carefully, seems like probably bug. I have again run first turn, and again KB did not attacked second time.


Chances of a PM strike are influenced by plane readiness, morale, fatigue, range to target, detection level, leader aggressiveness, whether port strike is primary or secondary target and, as always, a couple of more.
If this influencing factors have been slightly enhanced by modifications during the patching process this does not change the overall validity of these rules.

Look up the early AE AARs and search for a PM strike on PH. (aztez, or an older seydlitz AAR for example).


Bug.




Doesn't the Carrier TF Commander work like an HQ unit? Most of the "good" carrier and Carrier TF commanders are labeled as "cautious." Has anyone tried swapping out the "cautious" commanders with highly aggressive officers?

Just curious.


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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 9:00:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thx for the input! Yes, Capetown - West Coast etc seems logical with Perth as temp base for immediate repairs.
And yes, a strike is tempting but maybe a strike on the sealanes in general instead of a ground strike would be more suitable at this time!

No idea, whether things are coming or going Waingapoe is under _Blokade_ - don't you hate it when no one takes a message
This turn the trespassers paid a heavy price as we LRCAP'ed Waingapoe; dozens of transports are not returning to supper today.

The Car Div admiral acts much like an Air HQ commander - and yes, I'm only using aggrssive ones for KB. Aggro = 60+

Btw; welcome to new postes OSO, BJStone, not sure you've posted here before!

Allied medium bombers hit targets throughout Burma today, I'm not including these in the combar report.
Our own attention is still on Waingapoe;

2 heavy bombardment groups hit the place together with our Helen bombers.
Numbers does not seem to matter much; the bombardment group half as strong as the biggest didn't cause any more damaged.
The largest TF even bombarded in daylight today; didn't provide more effect.
- Will split the TFs up into smaller groups and bombard continously.

First 4 Frank production models have been produced; within a week we should be able to upgrade the first unit.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 01, 43

Bombardments

Night Naval bombardment of Waingapoe at 63,113

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Hiei
CA Ashigara
CA Atago
DD Tachekaze
DD Uzuki
DD Shiranui
DD Suzunami
DD Kazegumo
DD Akizuki

Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 11
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Nagato
BB Nagato firing at Waingapoe
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei
BB Hiei firing at 33rd Infantry Division
CA Ashigara firing at 33rd Infantry Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for CA Atago
CA Atago firing at 11th (East African) Division
DD Tachekaze firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Uzuki firing at 11th (East African) Division
DD Shiranui firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Suzunami firing at 11th (East African) Division
DD Kazegumo firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Akizuki firing at 33rd Infantry Division
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Naval bombardment of Waingapoe at 63,113 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Chokai
CL Kinu
DD Tadeyame
DD Suruyame
DD Hamakaze
DD Onami
DD Yugumo

Allied ground losses:
148 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)

BB Yamato firing at 11th (East African) Division
BB Kirishima firing at 15th Marine Defense Battalion
15th Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Kirishima
BB Haruna firing at 7th Infantry Division
BB Kongo firing at 73rd Motorised Brigade
CA Chokai firing at 33rd Infantry Division
CL Kinu firing at 11th (East African) Division
DD Tadeyame firing at 33rd Infantry Division
DD Suruyame firing at 7th Infantry Division
15th Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Hamakaze
DD Hamakaze firing at 15th Marine Defense Battalion
DD Onami firing at 7th Infantry Division
DD Yugumo firing at 33rd Infantry Division
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Air Combat

It's annoying that fighters escort recon ac...150-250 sorties x 5 each turn

Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 24
N1K1 Rex x 7
N1K1-J George x 19
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 28
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 26
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 22

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 9000 feet
6 x N1K1 Rex sweeping at 20000 feet
Escort: 2 x 30 kg GP Bomb
17 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 16000 feet
16 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet
26 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
22 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick sweeping at 15000 feet
22 x Ki-61-Ic Tony sweeping at 20000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 26
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 10
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 28
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 43
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 10 damaged

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 65

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 43
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 9
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 6 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on Waingapoe , at 63,113
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 18
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Assault!

Ok, we're ready!
8 crack divisions
4 regiments
1 tank regiment
1 combat engineer regiment (1 more arriving tomorrow)
9 arty units

Some 4200 AV.

We also got a full division shipping in plus a 100% prepped garrison unit with 130AV that is marching to Waingapoe as a reserve unit.
There is 1 Corps HQ and one Area Army HQ for support.

I hope our round the clock bombardments will work in our favor, so should the number of large divisions fighting numerous smaller LCUs.

My estimate;
Enemy got ca 1800 AV - modified this will be ca 4000-4500 AV.
Our 4100 AV will be modified the other way, to ~2500 or so.

This means we probably have to deal with 1-2 odds or worse for some time until we can wear the enemy down.
We can live with losses on a 1-2 ratio as we have twice as many troops and reserves coming in.

Jungle assaults suck big time but we got a major prize at our hands here and I'm going to do my utmost to win a major ground victory at Waingapoe.
- It's not like the enemy got anywere to run to!





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RE: NEWSFLASH!! - 3/13/2011 9:35:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy
the picture PzB posted was the armored version of the Zeke.

Oh, so that is, why I could not found any aircraft with Type 3 MG
Anyway, both 12mm, and 13mm seems to have identical statistics.

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is there a stat for diving? i remember reading that American fighters stalled out diving early in the war...or was it climbing...i think it wsas diving. well, either way is there a stat that concerns diving?

There is CLIMB statistics. It indicates if defending fighters can reach attackers on time.

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ORIGINAL: BJStone
Doesn't the Carrier TF Commander work like an HQ unit? Most of the "good" carrier and Carrier TF commanders are labeled as "cautious." Has anyone tried swapping out the "cautious" commanders with highly aggressive officers?

That is quite possible, however land-based planes seems to not have trouble with flying during both phases, even despite heavy loses in AM phase. It seems CVs, or attacks against ships is treated in different way.

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ORIGINAL: PzB
Question; If you were to withdraw damaged ships from Northern Oz (CV, CVE, BB, CA +++) enmasse - were would they go?

I would guess, it will be another huge convoy toward map edge. Probably with dozens of transports. You should send Yamatos to visit Perth. KB will lose too much planes.

Day bombardment seems to target more infantry squads, but this is only one example, so far.
Anyway, what the heck is this:
quote:

6 x N1K1 Rex sweeping at 20000 feet
Escort: 2 x 30 kg GP Bomb

???
quote:

My estimate;
Enemy got ca 1800 AV - modified this will be ca 4000-4500 AV.
Our 4100 AV will be modified the other way, to ~2500 or so.

Half of artillery seems to be already disabled, so firepower is roughly equal. Non-combat squads should have over 50% disablements, considering the distribution of loses, so Allies should not get full 1800. All depends of terrain bonus.
With both HQs Japan should be close to 100% AV, I would guess it will be 1.5:1.


PS. I like stats of HQ commanders


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